To all of you for being with us. Ac360 starts now tonight on 360 the 91 Felony Counts against the former president are now 88 with the judges ruling in georgia, how he came to that conclusion . I know where it leaves a case already deep in turmoil over the da who brought it. Also tonight, the Trump Takeover, the Republican National committee now the person just hired to protect Election Integrity is one of the biggest Election Deniers out there, or keeping them honest. Plus what comes next after the house overwhelmingly approves a bill that could shut down or forced the sale of tiktok and also divide the Republican Party. Good evening. Thanks for joining us. We begin tonight with Fulton CountyDa Fani Willis is shrinking case against the former president and his allies. Today, the Presiding Judge throughout dixon, the 41 charges including three, naming trump, one of which related to this now infamous phone call with Georgia Election officials so look, all i want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more that we have because we wanted to say soon as Nick Valencia is at the Fulton County courthouse in atlanta, joins us now. So talking about the reason that the judge gave for dismissing these charges well, anderson, the judge was pretty pointed in his ruling saying that the das office really didnt make clear what alleged crimes these defendants were soliciting. From Public Officials that would have violated their oath of office. The charges have to do in part with this socalled fake elector scheme. And thats the scheme from trump and his allies to subvert the Electoral College and unlawfully appoint a slave if president ial electors. But it also has to do with that infamous phone call january 2, 2021. We all remember the call, trump and his former Chief Of Staff, mark meadows calling the Secretary Of State here and asking him to find more votes. But in this ruling today from judge scott mcafee, hes saying that the das office didnt necessarily prove or make clear to have these charges we just stick. Heres what hes saying. In this part of this ruling saying quote, these six counts contain all of the essential elements of the crimes, but fail to allege sufficient detail. Guarding the underlying felony solicited. They do not give the defendants enough information to prepare their defenses intelligently going on to say this does not mean the entire indictment is dismissed. So lets be clear here. The entire indictment is not dismissed. In fact, the most important charge of all the Racketeering Charge still stands as there has there been a response from the da his office yeah. Theyre not commenting specifically. They said they are reviewing it, but theres a variety of scenarios that they can proceed going forward. They could either just proceed as is, knowing that they have that rico charge in place, they could try to appeal or they could try to fill in these details that the judge is looking for and then try to secure yet another indictment. But that would require putting the case in front of yet another grand jury and it would only really string out this already lengthy process. Did did the judge give an update on when hes going to decide . By whether to disqualify fani willis or not from the case because he said it would likely be this week, right thats right. Remember we talked about last night that interview he gave to wusa the radio here in atlanta conservative talk show but just out of pure coincidence, we ran into the judge earlier this morning on the front steps at the Fulton County courthouse. We asked him about his timeline. He says hes still on track to make a decision by the end the week anderson. All right. Nick valencia, thanks so much joining us now, cnn, legal analyst norm eisen, also, former Georgia Democratic state senator jen jordan. So norm, do you agree with the judges reasoning throwing out these charges, particularly the charge related to that phone call anderson, i think its a reasonable determination you do need to give criminal defendants an opportunity to understand exactly what the charges were against them. The judge did not dismiss the top charge. Its really the one that holds up this whole indictment. The rico charge and that phone call, january 2, 2021, trump imploring Brad Raffensperger to just find 11,780 votes that the da alleges dont exist. Thats still there at the center of the rico count so this is a very outstanding, judge. I might not have tossed out these counts, but i see the reason of him doing so. Jen, do you agree because im a Defense Lawyer is obviously celebrating this as a big victory despite the judge leaving the rest of the case largely intact. Yeah. I mean, i absolutely agree. The end of the day this is really about due process and the only way that you can give someone alleged of certain crimes, due process is if they know the particulars of which theyre charged and here, what we have is the allegations are that trump and his team really tried to get certain senators are elected officials to violate certain provisions of their oath, which really the oath is just that youll support the Us Constitution of the georgia constitution, but you actually have to point to the provisions of the constitution that youre talking about and look the Us Constitution of the georgia constitution are different. Georgia goes even much more further in terms of protecting the individual rights of voters. We even have an express right to vote and our constitution. Look, i think the thing is that the da just needs to take this back, take it back to a grand jury resubmit it really is more of a pleading issue rather than a proof issue. And hes hes the judge is basically shown her the way in terms of to make it right. So that they can move forward with this case. But i think theyre just cube important just to leave by the white crowd and keep going. So norm was this a failure by fani willis and her team . I mean they have predicted this why bring these charges if it was weak to begin with anderson, ive practiced criminal law for most of my 30 plus years as an attorney, judges often split the baby prosecutors are not perfect. I think the important thing here is that the brunt of the indictment remains intact. The top charge, the rico charge, has not been touched, and this call is still a part of that rico charge. It is not at all unusual when you have have a big indictment like this for the judge to find some fault with a few of the counts i have to disagree with my distinguished friend jen. I do not think the da should delay things by going back to a grand jury that would delay to act. It would risk delaying things. The case is intact. Its of the utmost public importance that we get an adjudication of whether donald trump, who is seeking to return to the powers of the white house criminally abuse those before by a jury jury of trumps peers, and peers of the American People. So i would not take a chance on delay. Ill note that the da if the da is disqualified, i think thats also unlikely that that would be he an opportunity to also appeal this, but anderson, having hit the da today, i think it makes it a little less likely that the judge will do that twice in one week. I mean, jenna, if the da is disqualified, this whole thing against her albumin, that means her office gets off. The case, means its kind of goes back to square one, doesnt no, not really. I mean, look at the end of the day while her office may be off the case, theyll bring in another Prosecutors Office or budget ensures the timeline thats going to push him back of course, it will. Of course its going to push it back. But at the end of the day, what the judge is trying to do is to make sure that the case that does go forward, no matter what he does in terms of disqualification, which i agree with, the ambassador that she shouldnt be disqualified, but it doesnt really matter what hes concerned with is to make sure that the indictment really is bulletproof in terms of any kind of appellate issue that may be brought up in the future. And thats what he did here, not to say that the das office did anything wrong. I mean, this is a case that weve never seen before. So the whole idea that you should know very specifically what you should fleet and what you shouldnt play. In a case that really, weve never even seen brought before for the kind of crimes that have been alleged. I mean, look, they did the best they could and all in all, they actually had a pretty good day in light of the fact that so few of the charges actually, the judge found a problem with ultimately all right. Ginger norm eisen. Thanks so much at the top the program we played a portion of the conversation the Georgia Election officials had with the former president at the rest of which consists of them debunking his Election Fraud claims one by one georgia Secretary Of State, Brad Raffensperger, who norm just mentioned. Hes a republican. He was a trump supporter, but his facts on that call could not dispel trumps lies, even though is another republican georgia official famously warned those lies had potentially deadly consequences for the Public Servants who make elections run smoother someones going to get hurt someones going to get shot, someones going to get killed and its not right well, as it turns out, Gabriel Sterling is warning, then some threeandahalf years ago may have been prophetic only now is seen as kim law is about to report in a sick new twist, those who would harm Election Officials are trying to make police do it for them. Take a look at Emergency Call, reports of shooting underway more than a dozen cars from the sandy springs, Georgia Police department respond cleared for the works inside a home in this quiet atlanta suburb but seconds, theres no lights on and how so . I have a funny feeling. This is like a swap college or like a Swatting Call or Something Like that . Swatting of fake call police to Law Enforcement of a Violent Crime underway, weaponizing the local police against an unsuspecting victim. In this case, an Election Official. We all know the intent of swatting has to have somebody come out so confused and the police come out so hyped up. Theres somebody gets hurt or shot what is the mindset of the officer in responding to that column well, when officers in route, theyre going through their mind, the scenarios of Different Things that can happen if, if theyre confronted by an individual, what theyre going to do, the hoax creates a situation a lot of unknowns. How easy is it for a mistake to happen . Its definitely a possibility. I anticipate well probably see some more of these as we get closer and closer to the election. Its sucks, but thats the reality of the world were living in now, swatters have at the homes of four Election Officials in recent months ahead of this novembers election election workers already dealing the threats. Now the base this escalated risk more personal and potentially dangerous attacks. A cnn analysis, including interviews with 16 current and former election Law Enforcement officials, shows the tech swatters use is advancing faster than the tools available to investigators jefferson city, missouri a call to police a man claimed he had an ar 15 and had shot his wife. The address of the Bogus Incident was very surreal. Republican Secretary Of StateJay Ashcrofts home i think they sent seven or eight patrol cars to my house walking outstanding in my in my driveway with all the lights on my hands up. Well heavily armed officers come Out Of The Darkness is a different feeling. This could have gone sideways, it could have. They make the most egregious allegations they can in the phone call because theyre trying to force the police to act out of adrenaline. All your children were home . Yeah. Your wife was home . Yeah were officers all over spread out in their full tactical gear. Your big guns whats the purpose of it . And if its ten timid aid, if its to harass, you know, its its pretty disgusting that thats what youre doing with your time it strikes at the heart of our republic. Its scary that its this prevalent. The criminals hide behind Technology Using altered voices like this Swatting Call to local Police Targeting florida senator rick scotts home has december. So its just my scene but extra i shed three times and for boys and fast, its hiding behind virtual private networks. The fake calls can bounce from Internet Locations around the world, often making it nearly impossible, say, investigators to arrest them i run a swat for higher surface and you can find them online. They operate so boldly and without fear that in about an hour, we found anonymous accounts that claim to swat from money. Can you tell me how it works we are paid and given information on a victim, how do you avoid getting caught when we swap, we use Burner Phones and ai generated voices. Hence, we are not traced back were not worried even a little bit about being arrested. Its also a reason im talking to a cnn reporter from my personal account you have to make sure that if people put other individuals and danger, that theyre punished appropriately thats how you curtail this. Thats how you get people to stop doing this and kim enjoys on saturday, i had no idea that there were actually individuals who you could hire to do this. I mean, thats crazy. What else can authorities do . I mean, given the how advanced the technology is, thats being used to make these essentially dangerous prank calls i mean, to be fair, its a bit of an uphill climb because of that technological disadvantage, youre seeing some efforts like another rick scott who himself was swatted. Hes trying to pass introduce some federal legislation to toughen up some penalties and to make swatting a federal crime. But what were seeing at the Election Official level is that they are now starting to do Tabletop Exercises in new jersey last month, they basically ran through what swanning could do to create havoc and chaos on election day and on a personal level for them, anderson, what they are doing, we are hearing is reaching out to their local Law Enforcement, sharing their cell phone number, saying please call all fully understanding that when 911 is called or an Emergency Call comes in, they understand it is their duty to respond can lah thanks very much. 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