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CNNW CNN July 4, 2024

Now safe after being evacuated by swat officers. Now this all comes after three people were shot and killed earlier in the day aCross State Lines its in Pennsylvania Outside a philadelphia suburb in what officials are calling a violent domestic related incident preliminary investigation determined that 26 yearold Andriy Gordon Driving a stolen vehicle, which was carjack from trenton, new jersey earlier in the morning forcibly he broke into the residents after which he shot and killed his 52 yearold step mother, karen gordon. And his 13 yearold sister, cara gordon who lived at the residence there were three other individuals at the residence including a minor inside the home, who were able to hide and avoid being shot by gordon as he went through the house, and searching for them following the shootings at approximately 09 01 a. M. Gordon drove to the unit block of edge would lane levittown, where he forcibly broke into a residence after which he shot and killed 25yearold Taylor Taylor daniel, with whom he has two children the suspect is identified as 26 yearold andriy Gordon Police say he fled the Pennsylvania Crime Scenes and is now barricaded inside a residence in new jersey and trenton and police consider that person armed and dangerous. We have Team Coverage of this unfolding situation. Lets begin with cnns polo sandoval, who is not far from the focal point of this investigation there in trenton, new jersey polo, what are you able to see . What are you learning . And as you and i are speaking right now, fred, you can hear off in the distance may not be able to make it out, but actually police using a pa system, loudspeaker to actually make contact apologies. Im trying to im trying to listen here, fred. But essentially what theyre doing can write down. They have been doing for the last ten minutes. They have actually been asking 26 yearold Andriy Gordon, whos barricaded himself inside the home Police Believe he is by himself inside that home here and tread new jersey and there are asking him again just now to step out of the home with his hands up to essentially surrender and again, this is happening right now. This is as close as we can take you and as we monitor the situation and listen for any more developments, fred, i can tell you that that house that he hes actually believed to be inside is just down the street. You may be able to make it an ambulance. His past a stop sign. If you take a left, that is where the home is. So i would say im about maybe 150 yards or so from the house and question neighbors behind the yellow tape, been asked to remain inside but on the other side of the yellow tape clearly certainly drawing some other people out to see. This is anything but a normal saturday for the folks in this was usually described as a quiet trenton neighborhood. What we know oh, again, as we still listen for developments, is that Andriy Gordon, according to investigators this morning at 09 00 a. M. About a 15minute drive south of here on the other side . Of the pennsylvania new jersey state line, believed to have shot and killed his stepmother 52 years old. Along with his 13 yearold sister, carer gordon before he then made his way to another home, shooting and killing a third individual according to police. And then investigators believed that he car jacked an individual in a parking lot and then made the drive here to trent, new jersey and it was about just pass noon that investigators received report that gordon was inside that house in this neighborhood . With several people inside. Weve seen those pretty dramatic images of individuals escaping that house. Police only describing them as residents. And you see them actually successfully escaping from the second floor window. And that brings us to where we are right now. Were investigators are essentially in a standoff swat team, both local, state, and federal huron scene with a standoff with this 26 yearold man pleading with him to peacefully surrender in order to avoid any further violence friday. So then polo wall, thats happening obviously, i mean, this is a densely populated community. Much of trent, new jersey is like that, but youve gotten what appears to be Apartment Building behind you and a number of other duplexes that we were able to see in the shot of the one duplex where we believed the suspect is so talk to me about residents. Its saturday. There are a lot of people home where we saw that the people who are considered hostages were released. But has there been an evacuation of the entire radius like a few blocks radius area. What can you tell us . I think thats important to keep in mind is this according to investigators that this all started as a form of Family Dispute . This was a family related violence but what takes this really expanded beyond the obvious tragedy there is how some of the neighborhoods in and around those shooting locations. So in those communities were asked to shelter in place initially. This was an individual who according to police, basically proved his intent car jacked a random individual. Fortunately, it did not hurt them according been to police, but that is why many of these neighborhoods went essentially into lockdown and st. Patricks day parade had to be canceled during the Press Conference that took place in the last hour so we heard from the bucks County District attorney, as well as other Law Enforcement personnel to describe Police Officers going down that parade route, asking people to seek shelter this is when they had no idea where theyre suspect was of course, eventually once they were able to place him at this particular location, they were able to the move those shelter in place orders, but that just speaks to the impact for so many people who were, as you pointed out, im trying to go about their saturday is whats usually supposed to be quiet saturday but now for people in this neighborhood, now ending in this fairly tense standoff. But this point police are really trying trying to bring this to a peaceful end still able to hear a police using that system to try to come in a week, youve communicate with the suspect inside. Yeah. Yeah. So youve been to tell us that theyre using a megaphone asking him, i think you said earlier, asking him to step out with his hands up. Is it kind of like just a repetition of that message that you can tell . It seems to be at this point, we started hearing that about ten minutes ago and just about an hour before that took place . Did see Police Launch a police drone into the air to basically try to get a birdseye view of the situation here. We dont actually see that in the era anymore. There they are again. So does seem to be this repeated message that theyre trying to get to the suspect inside fred. All right. Okay. Ongoing situation. Polo sandoval. Thank you so much. I will check back with you. Tom, i want to bring in now ed davis. He is a former Boston Police commissioner all right. Commissure talked to me about that familiarity here. I mean, this is very similar to what a lot of big cities and how they would handle what seemed to be a barricaded suspect in this case, since pole is able to hear theyre using a megaphone, that means communication might be limited, right . Sometimes theres a cell phone involved, a landline involved but theyre communicating with this aspect because i still want it to end peacefully. They want to be able to take this suspect into custody tell me what you understand to be he usually the protocol in situations like this should we think you should riga one thing that stands out to me here is the fact that theyre having to resort to a loudspeaker to try to talk to the suspect. Thats an indication to me that he is not cooperating with them they have special phones that they can throw inside a situation like this. Theyd much rather be talking to this guy oneonone so that they can try to reason with him and talk through some of the psychological things that are occurring in a situation like this. They especially trained to do that. And im sure the hoska this is negotiators a frustrated if they have any use, a loudspeaker but this was eerily reminiscent of the attack on the branch. Video and compound in waco when i saw the what officers climbing up on the rooftop, theyre thinking back to that incident. It is an indication of how dangerous what they were doing is if someones got a highpowered rifle, it was talk about an ak 47 theres no protection against that. So those offices literally risking their lives to get up there and get this guy to get them, get the victims away from this guy. The good news is it seems like theyve evacuated everyone. So you can turn things down a little bit. Time. Is your friend in a situation like this. And you can do your best with stablished contact meaningful attacked with the suspect. So that you can make sure that he doesnt hurt anybody else. Are himself, which is another possibility to zero in some more on the risks because while were looking at these integers right here from earlier in the day, maybe about two hours ago when we saw that the Law Enforcement came but the ladder to reach the second floor and they were able to bust out a window. They were able to safely bring out some of the hostages that in and of itself brought great risk as you were just underscoring. But now theres continued risk to because like you mentioned, there may not be the cooperation they were looking for from the suspect. Theyre still trying to negotiate or communicate with this person, but they also know that that person, the suspect has a Vantage Point that perhaps they dont know, given that hes inside presumably this unit talk to me about the risks that still persist for Law Enforcement. Thats there whether they have to move around continuously, they have to worry about what communication or information the suspect is getting about the activity around the home right. So so theres a bunch of issues theyre dealing with right now. The biggest risk is the type of weapon thats been involved these, these bullets can cut through wood in plaster and literally just, just basically blow through anything that that building is constructed. So they really use no effective cover from from, from an attack from someone who has a rifle like that. Thats uppermost in the minds. But one of the things that theyre trying to do is determined exactly where the individual is in the house. And they may have eyes on him. There could very well be sniper posts that are watching him through the windows. And there are a number of different strategies that police use to try to isolate the person to make sure that they can safely evacuated people from the front of the building. If say he has barricaded himself in a bathroom in the back of the building is Something Like that. So weve got to hope that the offices have good intelligence and theyre making these decisions that clearly are dangerous, but probably with a bit of sort of calculated risks involved. All right. Commissioner, ill hold on. I want to bring back tom bernie. I he is a former nypd detective and so i wonder, you know, tom, while im at great risk, Law Enforcement was able to get those hostages out as we were just kinda describing that situation. What how are they now an asset in the investigation . How are those hostages or residents who were safely evacuated . What kind of information can they now provide . Law enforcement as they tried to navigate the best way to get at communicate with the suspect yes so fred, they basically the investigators here are going to want to in the hostage negotiate Hostage Negotiation Team is going to want to speak to these people, get any sort of a beat on on what State Of Mind this guy may have been in when they, just before they were taken out of the house, how well they know him is there anything that they could possibly use to negotiate with him and to be honest, we also have to take into account that this this barricaded person might be watching us right now, right on tv. So if, if they are, i would advocate that they just kinda maybe just call it a day and come out with their hands up. So no further harm come to anybody. Does the police just want this to end, but they want this to end without any further bloodshed. They dont want any innocent people in the neighborhood being harmed they dont want to be harmed. Certainly their safety is paramount because unless theyre safe, then they can protect anybody else so they want to try to appeal to whatever good nature that this person has and hope that at some point they will realize that the only way out of there is is to surrender peacefully. Let the police take them into custody, and then let the chips fall where they may because this point, the damage has been done, right. So the person that has committed these acts knows that theyve, theyve turned saudi in pennsylvania and new jersey into a running bit of chaos for a lot of people. So they its a tough situation to be in time is on the side of the police because theyre gonna be there all day and potentially all night. And its moreover, they have to. So suspect knows if they dont know oh, they should now know that the police arent going anywhere. And the police do want this to end peacefully. And with that person preferably coming out on arms with their hands in the other, they could see that theres no weapons available to them and just bring this to a conclusion. So based on cooperation or lack thereof, the suspect is kinda dictating how long this is going to happen though, right . But at Law Enforcement would want this to end before nightfall. I know you just said therell be there all day and all night. But it is the hope that Something Like this is going to end before nightfall, especially to keep the community surrounding community allay their fears and help them feel safe correct . I mean, look, the local police there, im sure being aided by state and potentially federal authorities at this point. So there has been a net thats been cast upon that neighborhood. So theres really going to be nowhere to go. So if the suspect is considering trying to escape theres really going to be no would run at this point. So theyre theyre being watched by 360 degree of officers on the ground, potentially in the air, or whether its be via drone would be via aviation, by the way of helicopters and so forth. At some point im not sure exactly what sort of tools that they have there, but new york, for instance, they may send him like a robot with a camera, which will kind of go in there and take a look around. If the suspect is board harm to himself and is unable to respond to the police so that that may come lead. Ron. Time is on this side because they are isolating containing the suspect as they would with anyone whos emotionally disturbed, especially emotionally disturbed, with highpowered weapon as was previously mentioned by our other guests we can wait them out and we dont want to put anyone else into harms way, especially with facing a weapon like that, which can reach great distances as was already mentioned. Tom bernie. Thank you so much and thank you for sticking around if you can as well as commissioner ed davis. And andy mccabe also sticking with us for and take a short break for now as we continue to watch the developments there in trenton, new jersey the whole story with Anderson Cooper tomorrow at eight on cnn now at t professionally installed google nest products. Youre all set are in the system we should go with the most trusted name and Home Security as the intelligence of google you have a home with no worries brought to you by adt my friends call me sam. I naturally hold a lot of stress in my Digestive System as a lot of women do when i travel, i get constipated. I get really poop shy. When i started taking dso one, i immediately noticed how much lighter i felt vibrant alive. It really helps me stay regular and youre not bloated at all. 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