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If you or a loved one has been diagnosed with ms ophelie oma. Call us now cnns Breaking News all right. We do have some Breaking News. We are monitoring major protests, rocking several colleges across the country right now. All all having to do with the israelhamas war in austin. And this is for moments ago here at the University Of Texas, a large group of students walked out of class today as part of a propalestinian demonstration. And they were met with a heavy response from troopers who appeared to make a number of arrests. There was a large Student Protests it is also underway in los angeles at the university of Southern California and of course, weve seen student in canvas on the campuses of brown and Columbia University as well, who want to go to usc now cnns nick watt, who is on the scene for us negate. It is a tense scene behind you. Weve heard chance of let him go what is actually happening behind well, so what is happening behind me bars is one of the protesters was arrested and put into that squad car. You see right there, the car was then surrounded by protesters demanding let him go, let him go, let them go it appears that they might actually be letting him go. This is just a perfect example of the issue to that College Campus officials have across this country of how to police these events before they moved in to try and move tents and other things off this little hello. Park. It was a peaceful demonstration. There were speakers. It was peaceful. About 200 people as soon as Public Safety officers from the university moved in, it very quickly gop verbal. And then it very quickly got violent after that, there was pushing and shoving, cursing, swearing a great deal of anger, and then this arrest which is what we are seeing behind me right now. Meantime, over on the park where the tents were pitched processors have now picked those tense up and our marching with the tempts that are not breaking any university ordinances, but they are still making their points. Now. A lot of anger and these protesters were saying that they are not going to leave now so initially they came here about 4 30 this morning. Pitch some tense. They were told by the college to take him down and they did then they felt that they were being silenced. They said hey, that the College Officials were quote, nitpicking by getting at them for hanging banners on trees and for pitching the tents. And that is when things very, very quickly turned contentious and turned violent back to you all right. Nick, standby, if you would, is we keep an eye on this and were keeping an eye on that police car. There as well. Emilia kimball of the student newspaper, the daily texan at ut austin is back with us now. Amelia, youre watching the protests at the University Of Texas its sort of reached a fever pitch just moments ago. Tell us what youre seeing now students have largely moved from the original location of the demonstration to the main lawn on campus and students are starting to lay out blankets and pitch tents and amelia or earlier, you had mentioned to us that there was some very basic sort of disagreement between the organizers of the demonstration and officials on Campus Administrators who would effectively tried to ward students off of this idea of demonstrating, walk us through how we got to what were seeing now yeah, absolutely. So from what i understand, university had told organizers of the event not to proceed with it and students did proceed anyway, hours before any students gathered there was a large number of State Troopers on campus and the Police Presence has only increased, including University Of Texas police and Austin Police protesters were ordered to disperse just a few minutes into the demonstration and then the police threatened arrest and numerous arrests have been made. Numerous students have been put in swat cart, put put an a squad car and theres there have been multiple physical confrontations between Police Officers, State Troopers in full riot gear with buttons, et cetera. And students emily had talked to us a little bit about what students theyre on campus have been saying obviously there are there are so many theyre completely different opinions when it comes to this war. But theres also this fine line between free speech and then students feeling that they earn a safe environment where they can learn what are you hearing from students there is there is significant support for demonstrators. There is a small contingency of counter protesters with israeli flags and signs some students are in class right now. I just watched one student go into office hours, so i think that some students and professors are proceeding as usual and others are either participating in a demonstration or kind of gathering along the sidelines and watching and showing support for demonstrators amelia i asked her this previously, but i was hoping you might be able to give us a bit more clarity on what its been like on campus since october when hamas launched its attacks against israel and israel responded in gaza have you have we seen an escalation since then what is it been like for these groups that have organized these demonstrations over the last few months yeah so todays demonstration is by far the biggest and the most impactful that weve seen since october there, there there there were some demonstrations in a walkout from classes in october and fall of la year and there have been a few there had been a few demonstrations, buthis, thiss, this is a sere escalati. I thinthe environment on campus has been s been fraught, but e movement has not movent real, i would say until feed toda and emilia, i donknow if youre watching between this, t weere just sing all of these students push ba there. Annow we see why that police have come into the frame and our attempting it looks like two blkade stunts or what what are y seeing re . What, whats happening . Yeah, im im about ten feet away from all that. So students have had largely moved to the main line and protests or police, excuse me, just just started to move in and are now walking into the students proud, theres now a physical clash between students and police youre seeing a physical clash between students and lets Police Police just walked into the crowd. Okay. And were seeing th and were going to keep an eye on that. Emilia standby for us and eu, let us okay amelia describe for us what isappening, what ten feet from this believed or move, have you into the crowd . They appear to have detained at least one student students on the sidelines are moving in and filming. Students are chanting let him go, let him go are standing there drought please standby and give us an update on the situation as it develops. We want to stay on these images bring in cnn analyst juliette kayyem, who has closely been monitoring the situations and juliette what we just watched, the is something th is typical of Law Enforcement protocol in situations like this, you saw Law Enforcement officers in a Line Approach the crowd essentially extract someone from t crowdhat they deemed potentiay to be a risk or to be out of line in and in a closed line, they move that person back and take them into custody and speak to them. Perhaps apprehend them is a better way tdescribe it as opposed to being taken into custody what are you seeing unfold right now and what Security Concerns do you have . Not only four those folks that are trying to keep the peace, but for students on campuses that are just trying to go to class yeah, exactl because we have seen at some schools have have closed down or gone to zoom so theres no singular approach. Ill give a little bit of a historical precedent and then here, look, we havent university police, local police have not dealt with sort of extensive Student Protest since black lives matter, which happened during covid or had a very different feel than this does now, in terms of everyone out in about classes or ending, theres a lot of dead time, so to speak, for students and so colleges and universities have to do three things. And im pretty clear about this. One is they do have to allow space for students to protest. I said youve got to give them an outlet. The students are allowed to protest. This should not be as shocked to anyone with teenagers or young, young adult children. They have strong feelings in their passionate because if you just immediately go to arrest, its going to cause i think some of the what were seeing on air which is nothings happening. And then lots is happening. You want to give Students Space as long as youre protecting students who want to go to classes, jewish students, if their, their targeted the second is you have to have off ramps. You have to in terms of these colleges and universities youve got to give students rules about what they are and are not allowed to do. And maybe this happened at usc, but they have to be clear about yes. So you can protest. No, you cant block a building and this is whats going to happen if you block the building. And then third is of course, then exert your outcomes, right . I mean in other words, these kids who are violating these rules is students then have some sort of punishment and whether you need the police or something less than that is is each college and universities decision. But in the absence of violence at this stage, it is it behooves a lot of colleges and universities to think through essentially how they are going to try to deescalate deescalate this this is on their property and that includes things ill be honest at like you know, like like Access Controls are all of these students can we check ids of gates . Some of the universities are different. Look, im working with a lot of colleges and universities right now because they do want to deescalate. They want to give students a chance, but two protest, but they want to protect other students who make feel threatened. And then those who simply arent involved with this at all. I think we were going to find a hopefully a medium between those two things, especially as we lead up to graduation. I think that really is the balance here. Juliette, i mean, when you think back even in the 60s, the free speech movement, were seeing this thing with the car is sort of reminding us of what happened in berkeley. There, these moments sometimes of Law Enforcement moving in actually create some times a moment of escalation which isnt to say in stillman, these protests that we have seen listening to columbia, there are a lot of students weve had them on the program, were they are not feeling safe. So it is a fine line certainly between free speech, knowing who is part of these protests but how should Law Enforcement be approaching this in a very real way at the moment as they go in and assess these protests that theyre going into where it does just appear to be pushing towards escalation yes. So i know people want depending on what youre ideology has, maybe you want the kids punished sooner rather than later, but that does put people at risk. In other words, it is incumbent on police, so ive said this 1 million times on air for any issue as well as these institutions to try to deescalate even if we dont like whats going on or we may not agree with whats going on. So one size does not fit all its going to depend. So one is what are the rules . Rules of engagement. We cannot put Police Officers especially nonuniversity Police Officers, as weve seen in some of these jurisdictions, just out there, fully armed terrifying students who are maybe they just viewed themselves as just expressing their dismay with the war. Are there, are criticisms of the biden administration. So what are the Rules Of Engagement . The second is, is there is there a reach out as were seeing in some of these colleges and universities to the Student Organizations to engage them on what is and is not appropriate activity. In other words, we dont have to treat the protesters as enemies. They just disagree with the institution. Or they disagree with the government. And that can help deescalate as well. And then third is the punishment that were talking about. If someone is violent, is someone is threatening students. If someone ought not to be there and. Is exacerbating the tensions. But you definitely you dont you know, we often say like we dont want to get to def con one in an hour. Right . Somethings gone wrong. If you have a peaceful protests two, now you know, maybe its just a little bit of escalation here are some escalation here and thats im not happy be about it, but thats the kind of planning that colleges and universities are going to have to address now, because we are entering or sort of downtime for students. Or i know this. I have my last class in an hour downtime for students as well as as well as graduations. So in other words, dont give them an outlet give them off ramps, and then have them suffer outcomes if appropriate. And thats and thats an each university and college is going to be different julia, please standby for us as we monitor these tense interactions at times, physical struggles between demonstrators and police. Weve seen several arrests and i have heard reports of several arrests as well on campuses ranging from the university of south california, Southern California in los angeles to the University Of Texas at austin all this as House Speaker, mike johnson is set to speak at Columbia University with a congressional delegation roughly in the next half hour or so speaking out about the antisemitism that has been on display at some of these demonstrations were going to take a quick break as we monitor the situation, you see students running there in austin were going to step away for a moment, but will give you the very latest on cnn in just a few minutes. The sinking of the titanic. How would really happen, especially to our premier sunday at nine on cnn . Verizon Small Business days are here, april 22 to the 28 get a free tech check and special offers, like a free 5g phone. 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