Wait 180688 1,300 call now blasting the Air Conditioning because the Temperature Breeze pulls his cooler all night long im omar jimenez, at, Columbia University, and this is cnn Breaking News it is the top of the hour, 2 00 p. M. Here on the east coast, which means it is deadline time at Columbia University in manhattan. The school has given propalestinian protesters until right now to either leave campus or faced suspension. This deadline coming this morning after School Officials announced negotiations, Crow Protesters had failed. It appears though many demonstrators inside the encampment are refusing to leave voting to stay beyond this 2 00 p. M. Deadline. That has just passed there for expected to hold a News Conference just 30 minutes from now, we have reporters being allowed onto the campus right now for the first time today, Are Omar Jimenez is among those making his way in and we will go to him shortly live first, lets go to Miguel Marquez was just outside of campus where protesters have gathered. Miguel what . Are you seeing there yeah. This has been weeks of action in reaction and i want to show you some of the reactions that call went out this morning that if the protesters did not leave the encampment by 2 00 p. M. Today, they could face suspension or other disciplinary actions for the walk around here down the sidewalk that police have moved in pretty quickly instead of barricades, we just want to walk along the protests here to get a sense of how big it is several dozen, others, a lot of median here as well these individuals can get onto campus all of the the waves onto campus right now are being controlled by security of security for Columbia University. And nypd is now on the scene as well. Nypd moved in pretty quickly once they called for for protest. So they put out a call for protests around noon that the protesters who are indian cabinet in the main lawn in columbia diversity what youre looking at down the street here, thats the bookstore and you can see all those people in those barricades that police have set up down there as well. Theyre trying to create a situation where they can put protesters and media and students and keep them separated. Very long lines for students right now to get onto Columbia University, this is crunch time as well. This is the end of the semester and a lot of them have tests and exams that they have to get done. And then commencement in a couple of weeks. So theres a lot happening here at Columbia University if we just keep walking down the street here im going to show you sort of these gates are the closest to where the protesters are inside columbia, which is only about two or 300 feet inside there. But you can see students so trying to get in there police now, at this as nypd now at this gate that was earlier, it was just security, but protesters still inside the main line at columbia back to you guys. All right. Miguel marquez, just outside Columbia University, you can see those barricades there. And as miguel was just saying, a greater presence by the nypd Are Omar Jimenez has made his way inside onto the campus of columbia, university of Columbia University at the encampment omar, the administrators had to ask those protesting to leave a by 2 00 p. M. Is there any sign that anyones leaving and his disbursement well the sign that we have right now is these are all protesters that have now encircled the encampment here. Theyre just marching in a circle around the encampment over over for and over again, doing so essentially multiple times since weve seen here, there are plenty of people still inside the encampment right now. We dont see at this point any efforts from the university to go in and forcibly removed people. But of course we are now past that to pm deadline where these students were given a choice to either clear here are the encampment voluntarily or face suspension. Now, look, you can see just the mass scale of the amount of folks that are circling here. This is outside the Baker Library here at columbia, which has sort of been right out in front of what has been the focal point of the encampment here now, as you just heard from ego but there are also protests happening outside of the gates of this university tied likely to this deadline. But we have seen this from the beginning, that this encampment has said from the beginning that they wanted the university to divest from israel. We heard this morning, that the university had reached an impasse on those negotiations. Essentially truly ending those negotiations and flat out saying definitively that the university will not divest in israel. And then of course, we have hours later they set this deadline for them to leave. And if anything, we have seen it only being more emboldened over the course of campus here. Now, there is at least one student grip now suspended soon group at an encouraged that had encouraged people to show up here around noon, like two hours before this actual deadline to protect the encampment whether that had to do with what were seeing right now. It does seem that that may be part of why they are encircling this particular camp in the numbers that they are also i should mention, right bo for this to pm deadline, the students inside this encampment voted to stay. There was a vote that was held and there was a large number of them, a majority, as we understand that voted to stay in this encampment of course, face the consequences that you knew that the university has promised that they will face up to this point even at one point in trying to tell people who are here on visas that you should think long and hard about staying in this in kammen. Now, im talking to you within the first literal minutes of us stepping into campus, so we havent gotten a chance to sneak in hear from students just yet, but you know what, lets let me try and ask one of these students here. Excuse me. Guys, didnt the encampment earlier and you guys came out to protest. What is the purpose of the circling and protest . So i think around its like more people like call me over just a support and i think because for foot from the camp that i can see that there are less people compare with this good morning. So i think part of it and like including the outside to protect the camp. So were you in the camp before the 2 00 p. M. Deadline and then you left when it came yeah. Why did you choose to leave so yeah. Just came out yeah. I didnt leave or sign like a message like i didnt cite the slip or if thats what youre referring to, came out to listen to the speech and then i go in circles. So yeah. Gotcha. And the circling right now is to protect the encampment and why why are you all protecting the occasion . Why do you feel the need to Biggest School like, of course, they send us an email saying like, okay, the police are like calling the police again, is not effective and youre probably backlash even look like a larger extent, but like but are like our demands are not met just because youre not getting the police to arrest us, doesnt mean that you know, like our demands are met. So thats why we feel the need to continue to protests. And this camp is a symbolizes like the ever start of the students incumbents, like around their eyes states, and also like in the wider part of the world. So will feel the need to protect this intact and also yeah. Whats your name sorry. I can say. Okay. I can touch it. No all right. All right. So shes not going to give her de but obviously you hear that they are circling this encampment to protect being kammen as part of their protests here. And she was one of those students. Are they were one of those students that was inside the he came at prior to the 2 00 p. M. Deadline. And while they didnt fully leave, they decided to the next phase of letting their voice heard would be to circle and trying to protect here. Now, they mentioned the Police Department being called that happened in the very early days of the encampment. And yesterday, the University President said that they did not. They thought it would be Counterpart Reductive to call them this time and thats part of why likely part of why were seeing this internal step being taken now, though, what happens from here on out, because clearly there are folks that are defined as deadline. We still do not know shes not telling you her name. Certainly these students feel that they under are under threat of suspension pension, or maybe even worse for as you mentioned, those who have visas, omar jimenez, thank you for that live report from columbia. We will continue to keep an eye on what is happening. Theres this deadline has just passed by nine minutes and students are in circling the encampment. There are were joined now by hagar chemali, who has an Adjunct Professor at the university thank, you so much for being with us regard this deadline has passed just several minutes ago. The university has said students are subject to suspension if they do not leave this encampment one Student Groups said, we have informed the university that were prepared to escalate are direct actions that they do not adopt basic standards of conduct for negotiations. Thats sort of an Umbrella Group of a number of Student Organizations what steps do you think administrators should take to deescalate the situation . Oh, just tough question. Less i can tell you, having seen from the from the inside that the dialogue that the administration is pursuing, the students particularly since the last arrests that took place about ten days ago that theyve been in very good faith and we i know we as faculty, weve been weve been kept informed multiple times a day, sometimes at 2am and before am and i mean, these are they are working around the clock to do these, to pursue these dialogues. And they were really hopeful. I mean, all the messaging up until this point was that the dialogue with the Student Protesters was in progress, that they were facing progress that they were improving because the students were changing certain things and agreeing to certain things like less inflammatory rhetoric, no antisemitism or hateful language, which i myself saw on campus, by the way and so things, it looked like they were improving and the campus, the administration really did not want to get to this point and they made that very clear. They said over and over again, they dont want to invite the police to campus. But at the very end of the day, there are rules. This is exam week kids need to be studying. They need to be focused. And the fact is that youve got a minority of students who are creating an environment that is very difficult to work to pursue studies at many who feel on khan top of it unsafe. And that rules if theyre not going to be enforced are useless. And so i dont know how its going to happen. I will tell you that if theyre suspended, then given the rules right now, they will be trespassing on campus. And so hopefully that it will end peacefully with security and not the police itself. But it is a possibility always at the police are invited back. Hagar, weve seen and heard all kinds of things from these protesters, calls to end the war calls for divestment from israel. Some truly horrific examples of antisemitism. You are a National Security professional. I know youve been following this war in gaza very carefully. How much of what were seeing now, particularly some of that ugliness that i just mentioned. Do you think would disappear if that war ended in gaza today or do you think . Get something has been unleashed that will be difficult to erase well, i think you have two issues at hand. So if you have if you had a ceasefire this week, which by the way it is possible, israelis have proposed a ceasefire that hes right now in hamas is lab, as we speak, Secretary Blinken came out and said it was, quote, extraordinarily generous and he hopes hamas takes it. And if you have a ceasefire i definitely think it would calm tensions down for sure so that the protests arent as heated, but youre still going to have protesters want divestment. Maybe theyre going to want aid to israel to be conditioned, for example those desires i think are unleashed and will still be there. But the, but my concern as a professor and it also i would say as a different generation, there is a generational divide here in what seems acceptable in terms of language and views among these protesters who call for intifada, who call for resistance by any means necessary things of this kind and thats what i am concerned because that when youre going down that path of questioning the right of israel to exist. It means that this type of issue is going to linger on for awhile. And theres some real education there that needs to happen. Kids dont seem to even understand what is antisemitic language and thats my concern is that you were going to see some things linger. But the immediate protests, right now. Yeah. Youll see a little calm down. If the war ends or if theres a temporary ceasefire. As you say, theres a potential for a ceasefire thats being discussed in cairo as we speak among all the parties hagar chemali, you thank you so much for joining us today. Really appreciate it. We also have some Breaking News right now protests are growing on the University Of Texas thats the Austin Campus. Cnns ed lavendera. Is there . Ed, what are you seeing on that campus this is a situation that is quickly developing here on this campus. Alex, would you see behind me is a number of protestors because you had been gathering out here throughout the morning, having poetry readings, some art sessions that what was supposed to have been billed as a educational setting of a protest that some professors were also holding a silent vigil. But then in just a matter of moments, these protesters gathered up all the tables. Are there, have now encircled this and set up some tents and theyre now calling this the liberated zone on the south mall of the campus. And lets be clear, it is a very small gathering at this point, but this is exactly the kind of seen that University Officials have been very clear that they were not going to allow in any kind of way. In fact, some speaking with University Officials over the of course of the last week, there was definitely a sense that what they had seen play out at other campuses across the country. They did not want to see play out here. In fact, just a moment ago, if from the university Police Department, they sent out a campus wide Dispersal Order telling these protesters that they are in violation of University Rules and gathering rules, and that they will face arrest here for Disorderly Conduct that they do not disburse right now, the Police Presence we can show you off to the side is just a handful of Austin Police officers. Theyre under the trees and in some areas he clearly get the sense that right now what Law Enforcement is doing is trying to assess the situation, figure out what theyre going to do next. I must point out again that this all kind of develop very quickly. Not as a University Professors were finishing up in wrapping up a silent vigil on the steps of the ut tower. And this is a significant location, alex, here on this campus, we should point out because here in the coming weeks this is the area that is used for the universitywide commencement ceremony. So this is an area that obviously University Officials very concerned about. And this is the kind of thing that they were trying to prevent. But this is also a situation that we could see potentially escalating here in the hours ahead, alex and ed, i do want to ask you part of the reason were keeping such an eye on ut austin is because of what we saw there last week, you had a number of colleges across texas in the ut system where students gathered and they protested. But the reaction by Law Enforcement was different at ut austin, you add almost six steep people, a number of them students arrested, eventually they were barred from campus and then the University Kind of walk that back. Now theyre totally allowed back on campus it is interesting is you see Law Enforcement kind of off their to the side assessing the situation. Whats the thinking there of Campus Officials . It is they try to maybe avoid some of what happened last week while i think what weve heard over the last week in this is going back to last wednesday when you saw this massive presence of State Troopers show up here on the campus, as you mentioned, nearly 60 people arrested for trespassing it also point out that the County Attorney those were misdemeanor misdemeanor charges. All of those charges were dropped against the protesters. But there was always a great concern that they did not want to allow any kind of encampment, any kind of tense that would prolong and create a situation where the protests are two would be on campus for an extended period of time as weve seen, play out at other campuses like columbia and yale across the country. I think the University Administration here had seen that they were thinking they would muc