Being the Strategic Response officers were seeing more arrived now and get information the question now obviously is, when do they have the green light to go in . We dont know. We are expecting it at any moment and we keep seeing the officers move around, but its not entirely clear where theyre going, so okay. Were just going to walk this way again because i dont want to get were going to check in one keep us an form. Were going to check in with Julia Vargas Jones, who is On Campus OutsideHamilton Hall. Julia im just wondering if any how are you what are the last few minutes been like anything youve been seeing . We saw a large Movement Anderson of students all the way to the one 14 gate thats the one that shimon was mentioning there is Police Presence over there on that side. You see people just walking, trying to see if this trying to figure out where police will come in from and where they will be. The safest, honestly, a lot of a lot of the students that went way, they kinda like dispersing a little bit now, i think it was maybe a bit of a false alarm obviously, students are hearing inside what were reporting, what other outlets are reporting everyone is just trying to figure out what happens next. And as theyre scrambling theres movement, theres a lot of running and stopping and people asking, wheres the police . This is why i was trying to figure out where where shimon is exactly. I believe were just quiet exactly in our diagonal here. So one 14th, thats yeah, thats actually helpful amsterdam. Okay. Thats helpful. So if you could tell us so too, youre right is the one 14th gate on broadway, is that correct yes, thats one 14th that i cant see that far. Right. But there is there was a crowd of russia, people that ran that way for a bit. And then the one is heard and then amsterdam in which direction from amsterdam is right here. So this is the corner where this, but, and im sorry for the turnaround here. Ill have my colleague corinne helped me to show you this as Hamilton Hall. Right. So amsterdam is right on the other side. She and others are colleagues that have been live from the outside of campus. Theyve been able to see the banners and all the color from Hamilton Hall on the amsterdams sayyed, thats what theyre seeing just over here. Theres a wall so we cant really see whats going on route outside, right outside . The gates i have im a little blinded in here and honestly, all of these students will be in a corner once once police comes in, theres nowhere for them to go its a wall, its a barricaded building then i showed you before up here. We see we seem residences, students on their windows, just waiting to see what happens and i want to pivot a little bit more to the other side, just say have an idea of the layout here. Anderson is that these are tense that showed up this Afternoon Move from the south lawn where all of this began really a couple of weeks ago and this is where the rush has been going on. People were just kinda running out towards one 14th, which is again, all gates are closed except for one. Actually, i dont know our colleagues on the outside. You have a better sense of what its like out there. But theres with only one gate open. Everything else is closed. This is residences i dont know where people will go once police come in, julia standby. Appreciate what you were doing. I want to go to Miguel Marquez where his location is the righthand side of your screen miguel, i think youre around one 14th and broadway talk about what youve been saying last we saw you, police were moving into where we believe was a dorm building. Thats slightly off campus yes. Turkey can turn on. And turn the camera around here. Can this this is what we are seeing right now, just massive numbers of nypd going in with helmets many of the women pitons and flexi cuffs. They are streaming an offbroadway were on one 14 just east of broadway. So between broadway and amsterdam the closest access to where the encampment is is on just off one 14 here around the corner from us on amsterdam is where Hamilton Hall is. And where protesters have remained at that gate, the main gate at onesixteenth and broadway, were there there are earlier there was nobody there. It doesnt seem that theres any activity there right now. Theyve blocked off that entire area. Broadway this major road in New York City is blocked off for several blocks between onethirteenth or so and one 20th in both directions, right now. And police clearly getting ready to go and i ive ive ive covered lots of this stuff around the world and ive never seen this many Police Moving into chatelier had macau the shot were seeing now wheres this . Controlling . Wheres this is 100, 100 and streets east of broadway. So they are as close to campuses. You can get there is an entrance to campus just okay. Miguel, what were seeing were seeing the students were seeing students trying thank to move metal barricades around one of the entrances. Thats then entrance on amsterdam in 116th i believe thats fat sounds right . There was a there was theres been a protest there all day today dozens when i got there, what by the time we left to go chase other protesters, there were several dozen protesters outside Amsterdam Avenue. They had barricade set up there. Theyre very tall fences. Those gates are the barricades or shorts but gaetz around columbia are about 10 12 feet high. So itd be very hard for them to get over that. Police are now going in, they are now going in to the columbia its campus on i can see them going into campus on the 114 streets. Sayyed even more, more police or even boring to shimmery. I want to go to shimon prokupecz, shaima. What do you hes saying right with them right now, they are moving in. They are walking these other search teams that we were with earlier. They are now making their way towards the campus we are just behind them. Im sure. You guys just stay. Okay. Theyre walking in to the campus there have now made a left here, anderson, if helio come over here you can you can get this shot. Were fine. Were getting on the word good, but thats that julia and you could see, go ahead im making the left that is then making their way. Okay. I want to whos On Campus OutsideHamilton Hall. Julia, what are you seeing . Anderson . Yes, were good. We are hearing a lot of metal clanking. Some people are saying there might their hearing ladders. Im not sure. I cant see like i told you, i can be moved around. Are you pointing to the 100 is this way . Right here. Were looking at one 14th. This is the one 14th and trans there they are. There they are this is this is the library. The main library at columbia butler so thats the borders to disperse police is on new York Police Department is on campus so where are they . Theyre coming in campus or from one 14 they came from another gate on one 14th and theyre coming coming. Are direction. So im going to step to the side. Make sure that we are okay. But theres an order to disperse lots of lots of Student Media here. I you can see but this is what we thought would happen this is what weve been waiting to happen really. Games of where Hamilton Hall is. Can you just fell in that direction . Is that where they are headed now . So please us here theyre turning towards me. Theyre coming. This is Hamilton Hall okay. So so julia you obviously need to get wherever you need to get to now, were moving so youre going to see come this way columbia show them. Shall them. Yeah. Okay. So listens happening theyre going up the lawn. Actually, theyre gonna come where we gotta get out of the way. Julie across about how many police do you see from a few dozen for now maybe theyre staging i believe theyre staging over here in this arm back. Im back corridor and mislead me. It seems like theyre getting ready to come this way down can you show this crane just going down here . And into Hamilton Hall . Thats right there okay julia, stay with this as long as you can still chanting. Theres still so thats, theres Hamilton Hall that youre showing us with their outside so testers are still forming that Human Chain Anderson i showed you earlier. So it looks like right now urging slowly or staging outside kind of gray grouping at a slight distance from Hamilton Hall outside, is that correct yes. But it seems like theres still theres still different groups of felice that are coming. I see another few dozen coming in. I dont know if our colleagues outside are seen more people coming in more officers come in okay. Let me quickly check in with shimon prokupecz. What it looks like. Okay. Shimon told us where you are and what youre seeing so anderson buses have just moved in. This is where they will likely take the one once they start making arrest and start bringing people out. Those buses have now arrived. Were seeing additional technical ill assistance Response Unit is here. Theyre going to help with with video and other things that perhaps the police will be looking to seize their now heading in to the campus. But the significance here, obviously these buses now arriving, this is where they will bring the people that they arrested. Eventually theyll bring them on the buses and thats it. It seems at this point they have not moved in any extra officers into the canvas out here. Its interestingly enough theres people just out here watching whats going on and youre seeing some of the officers by standing around the buildings keeping an eye on things. But at this point out here, what things are fairly under control for the police . Look so much planning. Andersen went into this. Its very obvious that the nypd spent some time planning for this today. Certainly the escalation when the when the group broke into the buildings okay. Theyre asking us, i think to walk okay. Yeah okay. Come on. Were going to walk. Come on. Come on. Lets walk. Okay. Were going to walk. Okay. Were going to walk anderson. It looks like theyre going to bring us closer. Come on. Youre going to bring us closer. Guys well come back to you. Let me quickly check in. All right. Soon as you get there, let us know. Were going to check my Miguel Marquez miguel, what are you saying yeah, we are basically in the same place, but 114 street. Okay. Hundreds of new York Police Officers who are who had helmets and pitons entered the grounds of Columbia University there are now buses parked outside on 114th street to make any i want to go back to ed im gonna go back to julia on campus, juliet. Where are you, sir . Can you hear me . Julia, youre on the air. What do you say . Can you hear me . Julia . Youre on the air. Can you hear me using right down at least as close as we can to be these . Are two where we just worked that was i liked position they are all making and telling people to discourse over here theyre just pushing in the protests julia theres still those students there linked arms in front of the the doors. And then there are protesters inside the building as well. Do you see protesters in the windows of that building at all or had they sent the windows . I dont i see i up there. Up their mind that palestinians like theres someone serving everything thats going on i mean, this nypd, kkk, comparing dime york police to the food trucks play ramsay, chief ramsey, just in terms of tactics there, clearly just trying to secure the area as much as they can move off people. Anybody whos not protesting, just try to get a kind of an area of calm, correct . Yeah. Youre correct. I mean, you can see that the police are organized. They have a plan other time to clear away as many people as possible. But we making entry to actually go after people that psi i also with the encampment, start to dismantle that in canada. But t theyre trying to get some semblance of control in that immediate area so theyre doing exactly what i would expect them to do at this point in time. This is going to be a long drawn out process. Its not going to end anytime soon. This is probably going to take most of the night before they get bleakly locked down. You see that every one chief on the righthand side of your screen outside, we saw Somebody Being Led away with their hands, zip ties john miller, former nypd Deputy Commissioner of intelligence and canada and are terrorism is also monitoring this with us . John, what stands out to you at this point . Well, i think what youre seeing is the end of a process which is going to be the beginning of another much more tactical process, which is the nypd has been putting this plan into place over the last a couple of days, particularly last 24 hours when students took over Hamilton Hall by going inside barricading the door is smashing the Security Cameras inside to limit the view of the school and their security people too. It was going on the discussions between the nypd and columbia have been what are the tactics that are going to be used . What is the plan . Will it be in the daytime . But the nighttime . But the nypd wanted columbia to agree to be the complainant, to be the one that called the police to be the one that asked for this action. So what were going to see now is they will set their Police Perimeter around the perimeter that the students had set outside Hamilton Hall. They will issue the verbal warnings that you are to disperse to the people outside. Those people will have a choice which is they can stay in place and face arrest for criminal trespass or disorderly conduct, or they can disperse and theyll get that chance when those warnings are given, then theyve got to make entry and thats going to require the Emergency Service unit, whatever Cutting Tools they need to use to get past barricades that have been put in place then those people who are inside the building will be arrested, charged with criminal trespass, suspended by the school, where they contemplate further action, including expulsion. But as chuck ramsey said a moment ago this isnt going to happen over five minutes the warnings have to be given. They have to be given a chance to disperse the entries have to be made. The building has to be searched quite a large building top to look for people in place, people who may be hiding than the building has to be cleared. All of those people who are charged or arrested are going to be taken to the Mass Arrest Processing Center or a map, see, as they call it downtown they have buses set up where theyll begin to process them even before theyre brought down there. And some will be issued summons is some may be held over for court. But this is an operation that as we look at it at 9 18 p. M. Is going to go on for the next several hours, at least done. I want to bring in judge Shira Scheindlin, former federal judge normally for legal perspective, but you actually were a student at columbia in 1968 on campus when students took over building on campus and 68. Is that correct . Yes, indeed, they occupied and was which is where the east Asian Institute was and i was a student studying chinese and japanese history of all things. And so having occupied the building, we were expelled from the building. We had classes in the park and it was a dangerous situation. I remember it well, what is it like for you to witness this both from a former student there who believed through and 68, which i think is the last time police were called to the campus other than recent days and also just from a legal standpoint as a judge well, from a legal standpoint to take your second question. First, its one thing to have peaceful protests, but there are time, place, and manner restrictions and thats the beginning. And then theres civil disobedience. And if you do that, you can expect to be arrested. But at the third stage, theyre simple lawlessness. And what troubles me about this is when you have people Breaking And EnteringProperty Damage trespass, and potential violence. Thats a line thats been crossed and i think they action being taken now is absolutely correct. This cannot be tolerated and ill tell you the real story is graduation columbias graduation is may 15, and its always right where these tents are. And theyre prepared. There are students who have spent collectively 1 billion intuition who are graduating and their families deserve to see those kids graduate. Those kids want to graduate. This timing is this was timed for graduation. Theres no question. My mind if this protest was november, it could have been handled its pits graduation time. So theres lots and lots going on here that doesnt immediately meet the eye i wanna go back to Julia Vargas Jones, whos oncampus, giulia. Whats going on . Mike luck anderson has pushed to all students so i can see where the cafeteria is. Ill. Show you this. Im were trying to youre going in fact theyve just clear this entire area where we walked past earlier there are so theres just all that in my understanding is that theres more i think the war is likely very kicking them okay. Which one should we go thank you guys we should be able to go back into the journalism school. Thats why i was told to return two guys. Thank you. Gay or not . The only way through where where it speaking and julia. So other students who had been told to shelter the place, are they staying inside their dorms . Are they allowed to come out now . Are they all sit everybodys saying inside i may not know. Theyre not allowed to come out. Everyone everybody thank you, thank you guys out towards i believe this is one that we have im not, sure that there is a united message here. Youre heading out. Now. Youre