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We begin with Vice President harris meeting a deadline. She said twoandahalf weeks ago not to my team. I want us to get an interview scheduled before The End of the month in the 19 days since she said that shes talked in formally and briefly with reporters, but not done a formal Sit Down Interview despite calls not just from her opponents, but also democratic leaning pundits. In fact, new York Magazines Jonathan Shade has a column just out today they titled why Kamala Harris is safer giving more interviews. Whether thats true or not, remains to be seen and maybe scene because she is sitting down tomorrow along with her Running Mates with cnns Dana Bash, the Interview Will Air Thursday Night here on cnn, the former President And Amelie respond to that news, are opting instead online with a string of posts about Jack Smiths new Election Interference Indictment, which will have a lot on later tonight. He also made this online announcement by popular demand. Im doing a new series of trump digital trading cards. Purchase 15 or more of my trump digital trading cards. And will mail you a beautiful physical trading cards. Really i think quite something it is quite something indeed, by The Way, he says the physical card would include a piece of the suit he wore to his debate with President Biden and the garmin. He said people were calling his Knockout Suit he also posted this about his upcoming debate with Vice President harris quoting him now, i have reached an agreement with the radical left democrats for debate with comrade Kamala Harris. Itll be broadcast live on abc Fake News by far, the nastiest and most unfair newscaster in the business. Things may not be quite so cut and dry though from the Harris Camp and well have more reporting on all of that shortly. A lot to unpack tonight. Lets start with the harriswalz seen an interview or political Director David Chalian has more so david, have this come about . What can we expect . Effect on thursday well, as you noted, anderson, this is something that Vice President harris sort of set out as something that she was going to do by The End of the month and it is pretty remarkable when you think about the six weeks that shes had. I mean, she unexpectedly became the ninth how many . And since then coalesce the Democratic Party behind her raised a ton of money, had a shortened Vetting Period for her vp candidates selected Tim Walz. Is that candidate, went through Battleground State toward a roll them out and then into her convention. But all of that that i just described, which was a pretty stark im just shooting month or so in American Politics was all scripted now, this is the opportunity that voters are going to have to sort of hear her respond to questions about her plans as president and how she addressing the concerns that are top of mind for voters as we head into this final ten weeks stretch. And i think its a good opportunity for voters to see how she thinks through some of the toughest, most pressing problems in an unscripted format. Yeah. I mean, obviously the campaign, the candidates have come under criticism for not doing unscripted events off a teleprompter. Whats at stake for . Well, i think whats at stake is that she doesnt want to do anything to halt the momentum that shes built in this race thus far. So she doesnt want to have a Stumble And Weve seen some examples in the past where she hasnt knocked it out of the park, right she had a pretty bad have you with Lester Holt at nbc at the beginning of her tenure as Vice President , that still an interview that Republicans Playback and use against her when sort of framing her Immigration Record they point to that interview, but listen, i think that its unlikely that theres gonna be some hw who dramatic moment The Way we saw Joe Biden on the debate stage. And she does has done interviews a bunch, but i think what is important here is that voters get a sense of her thinking through this stuff and getting a little more meat on the bones. We just havent heard a ton about her plans what shes going to try and pursue as president. And i think an interview like this both in terms of domestic and foreign policy, will give voters some very important insight into the, into her thinking. All right. David chalian, thanks very much more now on this, have Timber Tenth debate and the asyet on finalized details of it seen as Kristen Holmes joins us now, shes been talking to horses there are still questions about what this debate will look like. What are you hearing from both campaigns . Yeah, every day there appears to be something new and just when we thought it was settled, it might not actually be. So as you read that statement from Donald Trump, he got out there today saying that he had reached an agreement with Kamala Harris that he had reached an agreement with abc and that the rules were going to be the same as that Cnn Debate. Just a reminder, we had learned that the two campaigns had come to somewhat of an impasse over one specific rule, which was the Unmuting Or Muting of the mics when the other candidate is talking in our Cnn Debate, those mics were muted when the other candidate was talking however, the Harris Campaign, they said they wanted them unmuted. That became a point of contention. Then you have Donald Trump going out there saying that it was agreed upon that they were going to move forward with those same cnn rules. Now, he didnt mention the muted mics, but he did say it was going to be a standup debate. They wouldnt be sitting down that you wouldnt have any crib notes. But when i reached out to a senior adviser specific thankfully, they said yes, they had reached an agreement with abc that the mic would be muted while the other candidate was speaking. However, it appears that may be that agreement was not reached on the Harris Side because moments later we got an a statement from the Harris Side essentially saying both candidates have publicly made clear their willingness to debate with unmuted mics for the duration of the debate, to fully allow for a substantive exchanges between the candidates. But it appears Donald Trump is letting his handlers overwhelm him or overrule him. Sad. Now, not a specific that theyve agreed to anything, but also leaving yet very vague questions now as to what exactly is going to happen, anderson, there is still a lot of concern among republicans and among Donald Trumps team themselves, that trouble decided not to appear on that stage. If the rules are not the same as the Cnn Debate obviously his team thought that went well for him, so they want to mimic those exact results. Its a new candidate though, so mimicking that seems unlikely. All right, Kristen Holmes, thanks very much joining us now, cnn, Political Commentators from the right and left respectively, Scott Jennings, maria cardona, also cnn political analyst and New York times, national political reporter. Astead herndon. First of all, lets talk about the sitdown interview. Scott its the first time the Vice President going to be sitting down for an interview. Shes doing it with her Vice President ial candidate Tim Walz. Do you think that blunts attacks from republicans or is there the line now going to be, well, why isnt she doing it by yourself . Yeah, i do think people are going now bring that up like i have great Confidence And Dana and cnn to do this. I think its incredibly weak, weak sauce to show up with your Running Mate the fact that they dont have enough confidence in her to let her sit herself the actual top of the ticket and do a single interview. In fact, i think the handwringing and the gyrations over this, over the last month show troubling, lack of confidence in her political ability, which also makes you wonder as a voter, what kind of president would you be if this kind of a small time decision can we do an interview or not . What does that look like for your Decisionmaking Process . So on site, yes, i think republicans are going to think its pretty weak to show up with a effectively someone to take up half the time maria, i mean, youre i mean, why not do it fell though you know, scotts assertions are just incredibly weak. Speaking about week and just not true but look, republicans are going to continue to try to throw everything at her because nothing has stuck and she will ill do interviews by herself anderson. Lets remember that she is the nominee for all of maybe a month in some days. And so this compressed time frame, i think doing an interview with her alongside her Vice President ial nominee is going to give voters the chance that they want i believe, to not just listened to her, but to listen to the Vice President ial nominee and what will they do is a team, i think that this is going to be a great forum for the Vice President and for her nominee for Vice President. To be, able to offer, continued to talk about what theyre going to do for middleclass voters, working class voters, making sure that they understand that their history, the Vice President s history, and tim Walzs History mirrors theres they grew up in middleclass working class environments. Everything that theyre going to do is going to be fighting for them. In contrast, so somebody like Donald Trump, who has never done anything in his life that is not selfserving or for himself. And i think that Debt Dana is going to focus on questions that will let them bring that out astead, what do you what do you think theyre doing it together . Not by herself. Well, i dont think its a secret democrats over the last couple of years have increasingly thought that they can go directly to their voters. And i think frankly been fairly slow to coming around to doing mainstream, traditional interviews. Weve heard the Biden Campaign now turn the Harris Campaign complained repeatedly about reporters trying to ask those type of questions have stayed away for more traditional Media Interviews as theyve tried to go to influencers, sorry, to go to a podcast that are more friendly venues for them and they found real success with that. I think what is coming happening now though, is there is an onus on Harris And Walz to differentiate themselves from the biden ticket, theres open questions about what their vision would be, what their legislative priorities would be and while they democratic convention was advertisement for the party writ large a lot of the things people are saying on stage could have been just the same if it was President Biden as the nominee rather than Kamala Harris, what an interview does is put the onus on her not just for the mastery of issues and kind of command of issues, but to lay out a vision that is something that of Kamala Harris has been fairly uncomfortable with speaking as someone who has interviewed her. Thats not necessarily her where she likes to be. She often says, im not someone whos good at speeches. Im Post Someone who gets things done now we know its president as a big Core Part of the job is to lay out that kind of viciously in a twoperson when you have a two Person Interview and you have a limited amount of time, it does limit the interviewers abilities this is going to be the last we hear fire, though. This is going to be the first, but i do think that question of can she do it alone will loom and they will have to be able to put her out in spaces where she is answering confrontational questions and laying out her vision by herself. Is this is all we get in terms of her along with walz. I do think those questions over bring out first got in terms of the debate do you think . Trump had gone out, though people in his campaign were apparently saying they want their went to the mics muted. He the other day yesterday, i think it was said hed be fine. Hed prefer it if the mice werent muted, but you know, weve talked about the rules of the rules does should the mics be muted if youre a trump supporter, look, i think all this is sort of tedious baloney, and its just, you know, No Ones going to care about this. And thats what people said about the first debate and not just pretty monumental so, but, but, but, it wasnt the rules that cause Joe Biden to malfunction and destroy his career on live television. I mean, i look i think i think its fine if theyre muted. I think its fine if theyre not based on our reporting. I cant tell whats been agreed to or not. Trump seems to think were having the same rules, but it doesnt matter because they both have to do something. He has to really get her floundering around on flipflops and her record with biden she has to stand up to a test. Right . I mean, people expect their president ial candidate and it needs to be tested. They both have reason to be there. I think the rules are secondary and im with trump ill just say if i were him, i would say the same thing. I dont care. Turn them on, turn them off. Ill be ready. Maria what do you think i think that its smart of the Harris Campaign to try to push for unmuted mics because we know that every time that Donald Trump speaks, he lies. And if the moderators are not going to be factcheckers, because that would be a gargantuan feet because of exactly that and i think that the Vice President should be free to be able to fact check on the spot. And also, we also know that this is an opportunity if the mics are unmuted, that Donald Trump is going to become unhinged. Hes going to become Donald Trump he doesnt know how to confront somebody like Kamala Harris, a strike strong competent woman, a woman of color, a daughter of immigrants. Everything that Donald Trump has seeked to demean and degrade when he is on the stage with her. I think that hes not going to know how to confront that. And that is going to come out if the mics unmuted. And again if he blurts something out, if he tries to to interrupt her than shes going to have the ability to fight back essentially. And so i think its smart for them to push it, but at The End of the day, if it doesnt become something that is, you know, mics, unmuted, thats fine too. I think that shes going to demonstrate that shes a prosecutor and hes the 34 times convicted felon No One knows how theyre going to respond in a debate where the pressure is just so incredibly intense on and on that, on that stage, whether theres an audience or not, No One really knows how burning things and trying to get it you she might respond great. It might bring out some fire in her it might also, you know . Am i totally derail her. I mean, as it would with anybody. Yeah. I do think there we have not seen her in this setting. We havent seen her up against Donald Trump, but you got to remember for a lot of democrats they have been salivating at the idea of Kamala Harris across the states from Donald Trump all The Way back since 2019, there is understandably high expectations for her coming into this partially because there pitching her as someone who can prosecute the case against Donald Trump as the perfect foil for someone like him. So i do think that there will be a sense of pressure on her coming in, not just to show a command of issues or defend the administrations record, but to lay out the case that a lot of democrats have her have one, its someone like her to take to him directly so i frankly heard a couple of harris people at the dnc say theyre worried the expectations are too high for her coming out, but i dont think Thats Something that can really hold water because what we are hearing from them as they reason why shes best suited is exactly for reasons on that debate stage. So i think that Thats Something that she has to come in and actual, although i will say those rules have like a twominute woman at woman, it does limit you know, the ability to go back and forth with each other in a long thing in which they want those interactions. Remember her on the senate hearing stage, she likes those confrontational spaces. Ive had some hope that some of those with our sea, she frankly why the rules do matter because it can really limit that or urge that Everybody Stick around. As you mentioned Vice President harris and tim waltz, his interview with Dana Bash On Air Thursday Night, 9 00 p. M. Eastern here on cnn, much more to talk about next special counsel, Jack Smiths new Election Interference Indictment of the former president. 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