Moscow, a memoir from the front lines of Russias War against the west is available now, thanks for joining us. The source starts now straight from the source and i two major stories unfolding. Donald trump unloading this evening after he was just indicted. Again Election Interference Case. Special Counsel Jack Smith keeping all four criminal charges, but reworking the indictment after the Supreme Courts bombshell immunity ruling, plus Vice President harris schedules per first indepth interview since vaulting to the top of the democratic ticket a joint interview with her Running Mate Governor Tim Walz, right here on Cnn Details on the exclusive sitdown voters have been waiting for. Im Kamala Brown in for kaitlan collins. And this is the source straight from the Source Tonight, the Supreme Court may have granted Donald Trump sweeping immunity protections last month, but he is not off the hook for allegedly attempting to overthrow the 2020 election. This 36 Page Superseding Indictment from special counsel jack Jack Smith is clearly evidence of that the special counsel getting a new Grand Jury to hand up the indictment, one that had not previously heard evidence in this case, Smiths Team charging the former president with the exact same charges initially brought against them, though this indictment did have to be reworked to comply with the Ruling Smith specifically makes reference to that the Supreme Court ruled trump can claim immunity from prosecution for some of his official actions while in office. So prosecutors have now cut language abOut Trumps interactions with Government Officials and added language to describe when he was acting, as a candidate and not president. And as you might imagine theres been Donald Trump is fuming about all of this claiming it as an attempt to interfere with the 2024 election will also falsely and baselessly claiming Vice President harris is actively behind it and he goes on to accuse her of weaponizing the system against her political opponents, which she is not doing joining us Now Cnn senior legal analyst Elie Honig and former nixon white House Counsel and Cnn Contributor John Dean, elie to start with you, what are the major differences between this indictment and the Pvi Wt has B Audit so pam, a lot of whats in the new indictment is actually the same as whats in the first indictment. E new inda Superseding Indictment, make some crucial changes. So first of all, heres whats been removed from the first indictment. First of all, any allegation relating to Donald Trumps efforts to pressure the Justice Department is central theme of the first indictment was that trump leaned on Doj J tried to get them to substantiate his false claims of voter fraud. That is out now, second of all, some other Trump Communications with White House advisors, the Supreme Court said, those are probably immune. Jack smith has now removed many of them from the case and third, i found this really interesting. The first indictment refers to Donald Trump as the 45th president of the united states. Hey, its the new indictment returned today, actually does not call him that. All it says is he was a candidate for office. Theyre not trying to insult him there, trying to shift the focus from things he did as president to things he did as a candidate in his unofficial capacity. Now, a couple of important things have been added to, the case. So first of all, there is now explicit mentioned in the indictment that Donald Trump had no role certifying state elections, and he had no role in overseeing president ial electors because a key part of the case that remains is this false electors scheme. And finally, the new indictment adds an allegation that congressional staffers took the fifth physical paper electoral certificates out of the chamber on January 6, and thats a response to a separate supreme Court Ruling that said there has to be some element of Document Fraud or documenttampering in order to be obstruction. So i think Jack Smith is trying to now work within that ruling as well. All right. So john, to bring you in the Supreme Courts immunity ruling, how much do you think this indictment has been weakened . And Jack Smiths case against trump i dont believe it has been weakened at all. In fact, if anything, but given the the immunity ruling has been strengthened, it can go through obviously, its going to be litigated at the district court level, which is the lowest court before a Judge Chutkan. And shes going to decide initially if this works under the very vague, unclear for standards set by the Supreme Court. And hopefully the more explicit and detailed she is the more likely it will survive and make it back through the Supreme Court because im sure Donald Trump will appeal whatever happens in the next phase of the process. Right . So the Bottom Line is this is not going to trial anytime soon. Certainly not before the election, but elie walk us through what the next steps are here. What we see Donald Trump go back to play again. Yeah, so now they fight it out in court. Im sure Donald Trump, when he goes into court next week will say, we still think a lot of the stuff thats in the indictment is immune and shut and come out. Jack smith obviously will defend his indictment. And Judge Chutkan has to sort that out. She can either hear from the lawyers in Written Briefs or she can hold a hearing which might look like a Mini Trial to decide whats in and whats out. And as john said, from there, Donald Trump will have the right to appeal to the court of appeals, the intermediate court of appeals, and then potentially the Supreme Court. So 0. 0 chance this thing gets tried before the 2024 election. And john, just yesterday, Jack Smith filed an appeal to bring back the classified documents case. Now hes filing the Superseding Indictment to save the Election Interference Case do you think hes sending a signal here that hes going to keep up the fight i think its very clear hes going to keep up the fight the maralago documents case. He filed a very aggressive brief he did not ask for the judge to be removed, although this would if she is overturned, would be hes the third strike and i suspect is a very strong brief showing that the Judge Judge Cannon had very little basis for tossing the case and dismissing the special prosecutor. Theres a long history in the Department Of Justice of Attorney Generals appointing special prosecutors. She wants to demolish that. Indeed did she would if her ruling upheld all assistant u. S. Attorneys would be out of work. So its a very striking situation down there. And i think Jack Smith is aggressively defending the Department Of Justice, his office, and the cases hes filed all right. Elie honig, John Dean. Thank you. Both well, the political fallout already coming Fast And Furious . Lets get some reaction from two campaign veterans, Ashley Allison was the Coalitions Director on the bidenharris 2020 Campaign And David urban was a trump campaign advisor. Great to see both. Lets take it off with you. Ashley trump is already fund the raising off of this. No surprise there. Hes emailing, please. Please give 10 a stand with trump asap during past indictments. Of course, we saw trump also fundraising and really a Fundraising Surge should the Harris Campaign be concerned about that . I dont think so you know, people who are supporting Donald Trump unfortunately, even though he already has 34 felony convictions, are going to continue to give to this campaign what i think the Harris Campaign should do though, is uses as a reminder that we are literally having a debate about whether or not a president should be a person should be elected president who tried to overthrow the election in this indictment is a reminder for those voters who are independent, who are undecided, that if you dont want the ongoing chaos and mischievious behavior like Donald Trump then lets not go back to him. Lets move forward with me, so i would use as an opportunity to continue to draw the contrast and the folks who are going to support Donald Trump, so that he can pay his legal bills will continue to do that so david Donald Trump is blaming harris saying she is pushing this. Of course, shes no control over Jack Smith, but politically, is this a lifeline for him something to grab onto an attack when hes been so flummoxed by harris listen, pam, i think that is as elie and John Dean just said, that this had to be done. It was its kind of mechanical for Jack Smith and continue to move along in this case what i think it does give the President Trump at opportunity to do is perhaps, maybe talk about the letter that was published yesterday or sent to jim Jordan Yesterday from Mark Zuckerberg, where he says that he received pressure to Censor Search Terms During Covid that the Bidenharris Administration, you know, kind of set censored maybe even in violation of the first amendment. And then was pressured to cover up and not publish the 100 biden story. So i think maybe maybe gives him a leg to kind of go there with it and use it as a says, im being persecuted here, but yet the Bidenharris Administration is doing awful things and theyre getting away with it and point to the zuckerberg a letter, right . And the White House is pushing back on that, but david, i want you and your audience to listened to trumps Running Mate, senator j. D. Vance reacting to this news gather over the whole thing, but it looks like Jack Smith doing more what he does, which is filing these absurd lawsuits and an effort to influence the election. I think its clearly an effort to try to do more Election Interference from Jack Smith. He should be ashamed of himself, but its one of the reasons why we have to win, because he should not be anywhere near power i mean, first of all, this isnt a lawsuit. I mean, these are incredibly serious criminal charges that could hold jail time. What does that even mean that Jack Smith shouldnt be anywhere near power . In your view, david i think the j. D. Vance im not going to try to interpret as his his you know, his words you clearly heard him say it. What i think hes trying to say is, you know, ashley pointed out earlier that Donald Trump is convicted of 34 counts in a new York Courtroom by all accounts, even our own Fried Zakaria said that if his name wasnt Donald Trump, those those Counts Wouldnt have been brought i do think theres a great deal of Law Fair being waged against this former president in this campaign, there were suits initially to keep him off the ballot and many and many states, 14th amendments suits which all failed the suit in georgia, the suits in New York this suit. So a lot of people just hear white noise. They see the legal system is an extension of the political system, and thats unfortunate because there are some, in some instances, some real justice able issues that need to be tried didnt they get just mattered up in this big morass of politics. Its unfortunate. What do you think about that harris, about that ashley, because there are theres a large swath of trump supporters who believe exactly what david just laid out there, right . And this could further galvanize them. Is there any concern about that . His development like this, like what were seeing today with a Superseding Indictment will just further drive voters to the polls for Donald Trump you know, i think its important for all of us to remember and, you know, talk about the facts and what really happened. We all witnessed January 6, we all know how the people decided to come on January 6 is because of a tweet that Donald Trump put out and that he encouraged folks to go to the capitol. We know that he did try and find votes in georgia that did not exist and was colluding with folks around fake fake electors we do know those things and we also know that Donald Trump lost the 2020 election. And i think that there was an opportunity. To, unfortunately probably the boat has probably sailed at this point, but there was an opportunity at some point for all of us to just acknowledge that Donald Trump laws and that he should tell his supporters that he lost. But instead, he continues to do announce his Running Mate continues to sow doubt in systems that are not perfect, but in this instance, are actually working because he did do things that were very troubling that were very undermining to our democracy. And i think most people can look at that. But when you arent operating and facts, it can lead people to feel doubtful and systems that they dont feel like ive always worked for them. It is worth noting what you just laid out there the President Biden has called Out Trump repeatedly he needs a threat to democracy, pointing that out, youre seeing the Harris Campaign not focus as much on that shifting away from that, talking about other issues in this campaign, it is interesting. Ashley allison, david urban. Thank you both so much. Thank and then just moments from now, im going to talk to trumps former national Security Advisor about this new indictment. He is just written escaping new book on trumps Foreign Policy and up next, one of the biggest interviews of this Election Cycle about to happen right here on cnn, details on the very first first joint interview with the new democratic president Ial Ticket coming this Labor Day Weekend. Bounce back his challenge, yet its time dare to come its got actually, its got suspense see how you get more, this Labor Day Weekend to turn the channel the my bobs. Com im going to find out how starting businesses never easy. 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