Long have you been i dont know watchers dreaming August 30 exclusively on max good morning. You are live in the cnn newsroom. Im Jim Acosta washington. We begin this morning with a defiant Special Counsel in a furious former president , in a reworked January 6 indictment, federal prosecutors are making clear they are not backing down despite last month Supreme Court ruling giving for president s immunity from prosecution for official actions we will dig into the differences between this indictment and the original end moments, but the main points of the allegations remain that Donald Trump attempted to defraud the government by obstructing the certification of the 2020 election and tried to strip voters of their rights. All four of the Felony Charges remain and in true, trump fashion. He took to truth, social his social Video Network to rant calling the Indictment And Act of desperation and ridiculous and calling for the case to be immediately dismissed, joining me now, senior crime and Justice Reporter Katelyn Polantz, cnn senior legal analyst, carrie cordero, and cnn political analyst. Laura Barron Lopez kaitlan, walk us through this because i mean, it is it is slimmed down. There are some differences here and we should point them out. What do we know so this is an indictment thats still alleges Donald Trump committed four crimes the same for crimes he was alleged to have committed your last year when they originally charged him. But in this version, there is evidenced thats removed so that it would not have to be presented and to the jury because the Justice Department has to follow what the Supreme Courts said in protecting the presidency and giving some immunity. So the things that are cut out of these allegations, its about 13 fewer pages no more. Do we hear about Donald Trump talking to people in the Oval Office Hearing from intelligence officials and other officials that there wasnt fraud in the election that would allow him to win. Thats not going to be able to be part of the case. And then the entirety of his conversations with Jeffrey Clark, who previously was a coconspirator no longer is here. Thats he was a top Justice Department official. All of that idea of trying to pressure the Justice Department. Thats not there, but everything where trump was a candidate, an acting in the Justice Departments view as a personal Pr Entity and directing private lawyers around him to bring together fake electors to pressure for the vote and even to pressure Mike Pence as president of the senate. And thats all still here. Yeah, carrie, what stands out to you in this new indictment . I mean, Kaitlan Points Out that the Justice Department, it appears hes trying very hard to hear to delineate these are the personal political actions that the foreign president took that go outside of the actions of what would take place inside the office of the president. The presidency. And thats what the Immunity Decision from the Supreme Court requires that it did. I think the key part is now this case is really whittled down to the pressure that was placed on the states. And so the indictment continues to go through statebystate, arizona, georgia, michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin, statebystate aid. All of the action that was directed, there. It does remove one unindicted co conspirator. And so you just have these unindicted other lawyers who were assisting the former president in this area. And i continue to think that and i thought this from the beginning of the case that one of the challenges its in it and telling the story is that the Special Counsel chose not to indict the other individuals at the same time, a conspiracy has to be more than one person. Hes got these Unindicted Coconspirators, but i think its still does make the story harder to tell when you dont have the case that actually has those other conspirators named in the Jeffrey Clark is not in this race, but Rudy Giulianis Sidney powell, john eastman, those names, those are the Unindicted Coconspirators that still exists here as private attorneys as carrie was saying, right . Thats very important. And Laura Trump was on truth, social, going off on this, we put this up on screen for our viewers in the process appeared to accuse his own Justice Department of Justice Rigging this case against him. But what do you make of what trump is saying there well, its a pattern, right . This is Donald Trumps common line, which is whether or not hes in charge of the Justice Department, whether or not its people that were appointed by him, which in that post he saying that his own Justice Department that was right and by people that he appointed rigged the 2020 election confusing yeah, its but its also what he has been saying even before the 2020 election, which was the whole thing was rigged and hes now laying the foundation again to say that the 2024 election is rigged. I mean, yesterday he was on dr. Phil saying that he would win california, that he could totally when california and the only reason he didnt win california in 2020 was because there were no fair counts of the, of the vote. Thats ludicrous. Video in a little bit. Yeah, and we should know just the other Day Trump was acknowledging at a Press Event down by the border that he came up a little short in the 2020 election, but in this truth, social post, hes, hes continuing to say the election was rigged, which it wasnt, but kaitlan, what goes next . Well, this has to go through the courts and there are two things that are very likely to be thought about very harshly by both the Justice Department and trumps side. That the Trial Courts will need to determine and then drew likely appellate courts, even though supreme Court One is how much of the conversations between Donald Trump and Mike Pence will be part of this case. The jury could hear Will Pence ultimately be able to be a witness. Doj wants it clearly, hes still in this indictment. The other thing really interestingly, trump tweets where the just firm and says those are part of the Incident Ration of violence, part of this conspiracy, it will be wild January 6, right. And when those are being sent by Donald Trump on his official platform, they are going to have to make the case that these are personal, are Campaign Tweets and not tweets of the president and carry. One of the things that i found interesting on all this. And i do want to ask you about the Justice Departments 60 Day Rule and how it plays into all of this. But the way that Jack Smith was almost responding to the Supreme Court and their Immunity Decision. I mean, theres almost a response from the special Theres Kind of a response from the Special Counsel to the Supreme Court in this short, he had to i mean, they had this Supreme Court decision. He had to carve down the indictment in some way. I think one of the most important things here is that he took it to a new Grand Jury. So individuals sitting on that Grand Jury who had not considered the prior indictment, and so he has this new group of individuals who now have endorses case incented forward on the on the 60 Day Rule. So thats the Justice Department policy that says that investigators are not supposed to take investigative action that would impact the election were coming up close on that. A Superseding Indictment is a major investigative step in this case i tend to i think this case has a long road ahead of it. That is likely to take place, obviously before not going to take place could see election though and then sketch, well, there isnt actually, were going to start talking about the timeline, but how much happens before the election is still a question. Might we see some new evidence come out . Might we see some new facts come out . Its possible, but its going to be very much up to the judge. I think actually one of the most important things that is relevant when in the timeline leading up to the election though, is the Deterrent Effect that this case could still have because its directed at the actions of individuals who were out in the states engaging in this activity that potentially could impact peoples decisions. In, as we lead up to 2024, to not do that same the thing to not be involved in some way, both lawyers and people down on the ground who are working in elections, who might be serving as electors to be very wary of engaging in this type of escalation. Yet this case continues to move forward. Obviously, thats going to be hanging over this election and laura, i do want to ask you about this. I thought this was fascinating. Justice Supreme Court Justice Ketanji brown jackson spoke yesterday about the Supreme Courts ruling on president ial immunity. And she does not hold back. Lets take a listen to this you are concerned about broad immunity i was concerned about a system that appeared to provide immunity for one individual under one set of circumstances. When we have a criminal Justice System that had ordinarily treated everyone the same laura, i mean, i do think its extraordinary. You dont typically see Supreme Court justices giving interviews. I mean, obviously shes promoting a book and so on. But talking about a very recent, very controversial decision almost takes you inside what must have been a battle that was going on inside the High Court over this very contentious case. You know, its very frank comments from her talking about the fact that she didnt agree with the fact that they ruled that on official acts, the president has immunity because coming out of that ruling, a lot of questions from democrats was so telling your Justice Department official, Jeffrey Clark, who is removed from from this Superseding Indictment as a unindicted coconspirator asking him to then take over the Justice Department and two overturn the will of the electorate. That is something that i think clearly, justice brown jackson, as well as a number of democrats think that should not be you know covered under immunity and thats why you saw president biden as well as Kamala Harris say that they would try to push forward legislation that would mean a president is not immune from kari just move before i mean, This Is It is a reminder of how controversial the Supreme Court Immunity Decision was. Well, it is and it is notable that she made these its comments in the context of there could potentially be more issues related to this particular case coming back before the court. Right. And so that i think does make it a little bit of an unusual public statement. All right. Very good. Kate kaitlan, carry laura, thanks to all of you really appreciate it. Just ahead. Cnn has newly obtained video of then House Speaker Nancy pelosi and the hours after the January 6 attack on the capitol youre done with Donald Trump. How does it feel he did to the capital, to the why its being released. Now, plus an altercation at Arlington National Cemetery. What were learning about the incident involving the Trump Campaign that is now sparking outrage she was because you pull that one seconds in practical jokers, all new thursdays at ten on tbs, set your dvr now, let me introduce you to class 500 lean too. 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How does it feel to the capital into the and later in a meeting with her stapel as he was blunt when describing the threat she felt trump posed to the nation theres domestic enemy in not mince words you see the smashed bureau in the office, or as you were speaking there, cnns Sunlen Serfaty joins me sunlen, this was a very candid look at pelosi at a critical time in this countrys history, it was raw, unfiltered moments really showing the realtime reaction of Speaker Pelosi in that moment while the capitol was being attacked. And certainly a very striking moment was when she was weaving through the halls of the capitol as she was being evacuated shes talking to some of her staff. Shes talking to some of the Security Officials around here and shes really expressing a lot of Anger Frustration about this moment. Questioning why Security Officials did not anticipate this moment of violence more and wondering why the National Guard was not being brought in. Heres that moment. We have responsibility tearing. We did not have any accountability for what was going on there, and we should this is ridiculous. Why werent the National Guard there to begin with they thought that they had sufficient not a question of how they have they dont know they clearly didnt know. And i take responsibility for not having them just prepare for because its stupid. Should be in a situation because they thought they had won they thought these people would act civilized these, not these people gave a damn and she went on to say, shame on us. Now, this was footage, jim, that was shot by her daughter, alexandra pelosi, who was by her side during the insurrection. And we are seeing this now because hbo released the unedited footage to the House Committee on administration, now, notably, hbo, which is owned by warner brothers, Discovery Parent Company of cnn. I should say they released that because the committee requested it. This is not somebody they have seen before, and this committee republican life but now they are looking into more of what happened on January 6 and potentially trying to undermine what the January 6 committee found in their final report. Very just dr