Tonight on 360, all we're learning about the latest school shooting this time in georgia to students and two teachers killed nine others, hospitalized there is breaking news in presidential politics. Liz cheney, not a democrat, says she is voting for the democrat. Plus with just six days until debate night now the two sides are getting ready for what could be a decisive moment in a very close race. Good evening. John berman here in for anderson for killed two students, two teachers, nine injured. People gather tonight and winder, georgia taking part in a community ritual that no community ever wants sharing a moment that no one would ever welcome and every piece of footage that is now a regular part of the visual catalog of american mass killing footage. Like this of students being marched out of the place for teachers and classmates had been murdered, their hands up as a precaution today's mass shooting at apalachee high school was the 45th. This year cnn's ryan young is there for us tonight. Ryan, what are you learning about the investigation tonight? well, john, before i talk about the investigation, because we do have some new details to share along with our viewers, but to understand where i'm standing right now, it's almost beyond words. There are people who are around us who are shaking their crying. They are hugging, they're trying to figure out where the north star is right now because they say some of them that they feel lost. You have kids who went to high school for the first time and who are now trying to figure out whether or not they ever want to go to school again, there's visual was full of people who were just living their hearts pour out because they can't believe this happened and their neighborhood, but just in the last three minutes or so, the fbi has released a statement that basically this shooter has been made aware to them before they were concerned about him and the family had been moving around. The father had indicated that this kid did not have access to weapons and that local authorities that the most they could before this kid moved and came to this jurisdiction. So they were made aware that something was off about a situation with this 14yearold. And of course today was every person's worse nightmare as it's turned out, he was able to make it inside the school with a weapon and opens fire we've talked to so many students who heard the gunfire was actually just talking to a young lady who said she was on the way to the bathroom and apparently at the school that doors lock behind you when the door opens and closes and she was caught in the hallway, she had to bang on the door to ask to get back inside. Luckily, her teacher recognized her and was able to let her in. I will tell you over and over, we hear from these students that the teachers did the most, they could to keep them protected, keep them safe, put them in closets barricade doors, and run. We know two teachers lost their lives. So am i talked to a student today and said they saw the blood trail as teacher was hit and was trying to get back into one of the classrooms want you to take a listen to a student that we just talked to a ninth grader who said, one of the students who lost her life today was a friend of hers take a listen when i found out i started crying and i just got mad because why would you just shoot innocent people that you know it's just i really sad because like, you even know him and he's actually like a sweet person, you know, like class clown. He was going to those and he was funny john, there's a lot of questions about exactly what happened, how the student got in school, what we do know right now is that this school seemed to be prepared. They had done drills before when it comes to school, shooters. And so when the process started happening, they knew what to do and the teachers did do that bearing barricade. But again, just in the last three minutes or so, getting a notice from the fbi that this student had been made aware to them they pass it down and local law enforcement local law enforcement did a check. And then after that, apparently the student's father indicated that he didn't have access to weapons. So now the conversation is not only about exactly how he got access to the weapon, but where did he get the gun from? so that's a part of the conversation we do know right now. They have not released what kind of caliber weapon it was, how many shots were fired as this investigation continues, this school is so brandnew. There's video surveillance. So we know investigators are at least able to go through that piecebypiece to do a timestamp and the shooter surrendered pretty early on after he was engaged by those deputies who work there at the high school and is talking to investigators. So hopefully we have an idea about what motivated this but listening to that young ninth grader talk about losing a friend she didn't go to school today and her friend was lost and she knew the other person who was shot as well. There are so many stories just like this one in this tight knit community. People just sort of have that look of losses in the face, like, what do you do next still waiting to figure out about first court appearance which could happen tomorrow or the next day because we know the shooter has been charged an adult, something john, that we will stay on top of this is still a developing story because the fbi and other investigator workers are working through the night as a process that scene and other scenes throughout this county, john ryan young. A lot of new information there. Thank you so much for your reporting. All those people you're talking to, let them know we're thinking about them alright, stephen crane, buhl, teachers social studies at the high school. His classroom was just down the hall from this shooting. He joins us now stephen thank you for being with us. I'm so sorry. It's under these circumstances, can you walk us through what happened in your classroom how you and your students reacted when you heard the gunshots yes, sir. So the first thing that occurred on my smartboard that hard lockdown was initiated our county and our administration has done a great job to prepare us in that instance, i knew something emergency wise was about to happen. We trained basically every semester for these situations. So my first instinct was that i need a weapon. I need to protect my students. I got everybody in the corner, turned off the lights. It just kinda held everyone nice and tight. Just said, you know, just wait for him. Everything to happen, anything to pass, and i was so happy to hear voice of our sro outside the hallway within about two minutes of the gunfire. And i just knew that things were going to be okay for me. My coteacher and my students. How far was the shooter from your classroom? i want to say it would be about like halfway down the hall from where i was the mother of one of your students, you were just talking about this as you put everyone in the corner and you stood over them to protect them. And in case the shooter came into your classroom, what was going through your head during this time yes, sir. So my number one priority as a teacher is the safety of my students no matter what, every day that my number one overall goal besides their education is to make sure that they get home safe to their mothers and fathers, brothers and sisters my admin is really approached that that's kind of the one of the key parts is that okay. Is i am there for those kids every day, and especially their safety. So it just feels like for me that's become part of the job how long did this all last? somewhere between head felt like somewhere between 45 minutes to an hour f felt like things happen around just after 1015 and i felt like we were outside by 11:00 did you personally know any of the students or teachers who lost her life today? yes, sir. I knew one of the teachers. I don't want to speak specifically on him just because i know there's a lot of still reports coming out. I myself actually don't know the second teacher's name. That's been announced, so i'm still waiting for that news myself and following reports from the gbi but i know he was a respected individual human a lot to this community but to the athletic programs that we have at our institutions, so he'll be sorely missed and hard to replace someone like that because he himself just cared a lot about his students and the community as well i'm so sorry for your loss and for the uncertainty that's still exists around the names, of the identities, the people who we're lost. What do you want the world to know about apalachee high school and the students and the faculty there well, the first thing i heard that your reporter address this concern as well. What should people do next? so it's a little crude, but as you can see, there's actually a website that people can donate to. It's called beryl cf dot forward basically stands for barrow crisis fund that people will be to so i'll tell you that it's tough because this year was the 25th anniversary of apalachee is high schools creation and it's a community that cares a lot about its kids. And to quote our sheriff today there's an evil act that was occurred in our institution. However, there's been so much good coming out right now. We have groups, you know, funding to attack. They're going to be take care of that every night that they're going to have hot meals. So i don't want to lead to this one bad incident paint of view on our community that is so much more than that. There's so much positivity. And this can be so much good that will come out of this tragedy your students are going to be leaning on you. They are lucky to have you again, we are so sorry for your loss. Everyone did see that piece of paper you were holding up there? steven kramer, you'll thank you so much for being with us thank with us. Now, cnn, chief law enforcement intelligence analyst john miller, also retired fbi supervisory special agent david bruner. John, let me just start with you in the news that ryan just reported, there a few minutes ago that this shooter was known to authorities. What more can you tell us about that? what exactly does that mean, though that's developing now but what it suggests is that the fbi received a tip or information about this individual that usually would come into either the field. Office or sometimes the national threat assessment center and then those are usually sent out to local law enforcement as a lead, saying we have this information to follow up on it we'll have to sort through what was the order of where did it go? who was it shared with? and then what happened with it. And you're on the phone just moments ago while i was even on the air. Were you getting new information about the weapon used? so we are told that it is a ar 15, a long rifle that is one of those things that if that's the case, how did it get into the school? but as we saw in the attempted assassination of donald trump, they have folding stocks. They have removable barrels. It can fit into a backpack, can be assembled very quickly. So that's going to be something else to look at all right. Daniel what stands out to you on the details that we've learned so far from law enforcement i think there are a couple of things that are interesting to hear from a lot of the press conferences. One of the things that really stands out we're understanding is obviously the motivation of the shooter i was he or why were they involved in the school of why what was the motivation for the shooting and the investigation is going to find that they're going to come over everything, all the electronic evidence, all the electronic data. They're going to interview all the family, friends, associates of the shooter. They're gonna find that everything that he's been doing the last few weeks, last few months. But i also found it interesting that he surrendered where when there's shooter training with the fbi and local law enforcement were trained to get to the scene as quickly as possible. There's an active shooter the individual is killing individuals, wounding individuals. The fact that the individuals rendered that the shooter surrender to the sro officers. The sro, their training just as you see on all of the body cams, their training is to get to the scene and immediately neutralize the threat. If that individual still had the weapon in his hands when the sro arrived at that scene most likely that sro would not have given commands deadly force policy clearly states that individual is a threat to the community, and he is a threat with the gun in his hand. I'm still want to find out how the individual how the sro bravely was able to subdue the individual, and how they surrendered because if he had his weapon in hand, the sro probably would have engaged in and would have killed him without any alerts are warnings to stop doing what they're doing. John, we've heard accounts of how the shooter tried to get into his own classroom, couldn't. And then went to another classroom. What does that tell you? well, that suggests a couple of things. And you base this on all of the things you learn in the offender characteristics from the way too many school shooters and active shooters. But what it tells us is going to the place where he was familiar, where he was familiar with the people inside. But it also tells us something which is we see this time and time again, people who are emotional in their own personal lives overwrought by events driven to actions like this once they are focused on mission they managed to be able to stay focused on mission pivot quickly. Okay, there's an obstacle here i'm going to go to the next place, the path of least resistance. I'm going to continue and find victims it was where i have them. And as we circled to in our last question, while trying to increase lethality as he went to students to steal two teachers. One of the things we have to look at is where those teachers who were trying to intervene or it just targets of availability that he was willing to surrender when confronted by police, which means he was willing to kill people that was in his plan, but not necessarily willing to die for it, which is sometimes built into the plan. Yeah, it's sometimes is it is interesting in and of itself there, daniel, what answer questions do you unanswered questions i should say, do you have right now? well again like i said, the motivation, the how the individual obtained the weapon clearly, the fact that he was on the fbi's radar is going to be up for discussion. They're going to want to talk about it. They're gonna look at the guardian lead when it came in what did the fbi do? did they just handed to the locals? and did the individual the shooter's family just moved from one community to the other. And did the threat get lost in the transit because that's still as an individual that is being that's a threat to the community. So i think that there's a lot to be determined. And but fortunately, there's a lot of support that's going to be coming out of this to find find out why he was doing this and then as previously discussed and other programs to figure out what were the mistakes that were made. How can we correct this situation? this doesn't happen again and that the fbi can assist and provide that information, working with local law enforcement and the gbi, right? daniel brunner thank you very much, john miller. I know you are working your sources. You've been on the phone for hours now, come back to us when you learn new information. We are also expecting to hear from authorities in winder again, very shortly we will bring you any new information they may have when that press conference does happen. Next, presidential politics and breaking news from a staunch conservative, from a deep red state. Liz cheney announcing she is now a harris voter. Why she says she is doing it and the impact it could have. And then later, the very different way in which each side is preparing for their first and perhaps only debate, which is just six days from now. 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