Coverage and exclusive pre and postdebate analysis. A cnn special the abc News President ial defeat tuesday at nine eastern on Cnn And Streaming on max youre in the Cnn Newsroom. Im Jessica Dean in New York, the first first debate between Vice PresidentKamala Harris and former President Donald Trump. Now, just three days away, and the Uk Campaigns are bracing for what could be could be a pivotal moment in the race with just two months until election day. Since thursday, harris has been preparing with a small team of advisers in pittsburgh, pennsylvania or shes been taking part in mock debates and combing through possible attacks from trump. Shes also been taking breaks. Today. She made a Surprise Appearance at a Spice Shop in pittsburgh, which turned into an emotional moment with voters you know were gonna be smiling were going to be fine trump is spending his prep time talking to his base. He held her Campaign Rally in the battleground, State Of Wisconsin a few hours ago he appeared once again to accuse Vice President harris, quote, a Cover Up with president biden suggested changing the 25th Amendment finally, i will support modifying the 25th Amendment to make clear that if a Vice President lies or engages in a conspiracy to Cover Up the incapacity of the President Of The United States have you do that with a Cover Up of the President Of The United States, its grounds for impeachment immediately and removal from office lets turn now to our panel, cnn senior Political Commentator and former Special Assistant to President George W bush, Scott Jennings and cnn senior Political Commentator and former obama administration official, van jones. Its always great to have both of you here. Thanks for spending your Saturday Evening with this for a few minutes. Scott, lets start first with you. I want to talk about the debate eight first. We saw the president at his Rally Today hitting some familiar notes. There. What can he do on tuesday if youre advising him, what does he do to persuade any persuadable voters that might be left out there . Well. He has to come come to this debate prepared to prosecute the case that electing Kamala Harris is just having more of the same. I mean, thats his whole campaign here. If youre unhappy with biden and you dont think what theyve done on the economy is working for you. You cant leave the same people in charge. He has to be able to know the wreck her know what vote she has cast, know the thing she has said, everything she has done on the biden administration. He just has to know It Cold now, in 2020, when he debated biden, the first time around, not good. The second time around, he actually was very wellprepared and he was able to sort of be very specific in backandforth with bidens. So i know he can do it, but thats it. He has to people have to turn off the tv thinking, yeah, i really do want Change And Trump is the candidate of change, not harris. And van. Its interesting because meantime, Kamala Harris keeps saying, lets turn the page. Were not going back. She has positioned herself in a way as a change candidate. How does she convince people that shes the change that theyre looking for. What does a Win Look like for her well, i think first of all, she she walks in there representing maybe the broadest coalition of americans in living Memory Everybody from aoc to now, Dick Cheney is standing behind. You. Want to talk about that in a second yes. Imagine walking in there the the leading lights of Donald Trumps party are with her. And i think shes got to be able to communicate. Yeah. You can go into the crazy been with this guy. I am president ial, i am ready, i am, i am calm. I cannot be thrown off by this guy and we are going to move forward. And i think the reality is people want to hang a bunch of stuff on her as if she were present United States, the Vice President , United States only job is to watch and see if the president s alive this morning. Anything else she did beyond that, its just kind of extra and so shes now in a position where she can say what she can say, that she is going to be the commander in chief and she will move in a different direction than Joe Biden Scott before i move on to Dick Cheney, would you like to jump in there . Well, i mean i mean, normally thats the case. I mean, she shes had a very consequential vice presidency. Shes cast i think the most ever title breaking votes in the senate of any Vice President , including on Joe Bidens specific economic program, which drove the country into a massive inflation and inflationary spiral which everyone is mad about. And on top of that sheet, in her own words, last person in the room with Joe Biden when they made a disastrous decision on afghanistan saying so i think in some cases youre right van the Vice President is relatively inconsequential she has been a consequential Vice President. I think the consequences have been bad. Trump has to be able to make that case at the debate i think definitely you probably have other questions yeah. Well, i did just want to i wont i did want to get into the Dick Cheneys endorsement. I want to play a clip of what Kamala Harris, the Vice President , said about that endorsement. Today. Heres what she said. People are exhausted about the division and the attempts divide us as americans and then stepping Up To make this public statement, i think is a courageous but also for people like the folks i was just talking with, it really reinforces for them that we love our country and we have more in common than what separates Sense And ScottVice PresidentDick Cheney, former Vice PresidentDick Cheney in his endorsement said, trump can never be trusted with power again, is he wrong . Well, i mean, most republicans would argue that the dangers of Donald Trump are far outstripped by the dangers of a Kamala Harris presidency when you consider just how far to the left, she may want to take the country. I mean, i know shes changing all the positions now, but no republicans really believe that shes a moderate. They believe what her initial instincts were when she got into politics. I mean, shes a California Democrat whose instincts were to side with Bernie Sanders on virtually every issue of the day and then run for president on that platform. And so thats what people thats what republicans believe she is. And they think there are real consequences about the future of the country under a president who would go so far left particular really if democrats got, are retain control of the united States Senate and eliminated the filibuster. This country are government could take a sharp left turn in a hurry and so Vice President cheney, who i revere, i worked to elect this man, Vice President twice. I worked in the White House under Vice President cheney. I revere him. I respect him. I think his statement was a little hyperbolic i also think most republicans are going to disagree with him on the conclusion about what we know, whats more dangerous for the future. A generally a center right government, or a very leftwing government . And van, go ahead i dont see it very differently. If you are an undecided voter and youre trying to figure out what to do this is a pretty massive signal Kamala Harris does stuff that you dont like. Maybe your Tax Policy is too aggressive. You can vote her out in four years and six it if you put somebody in office who does not respect the rule of law, the constitution, somebody who led an Insurrection Somebody you may not be able to vote out in four years that you Cant Fix that very easily. And so neelys candace a perfect, but if youre in the middle of trying to figure out, well, whos going to have the most survivable set of errors . Donald trumps already proven that he will use violence, lies, and all kinds of stuff in a way that even a Dick Cheney, who is as far right, he makes mixed. Scott jennings look like a Boy Scout even Dick Cheney says that kamala is a safer bet for america i just ran going off that, i endorsements dont always matter like that. We make a big deal out of them because theyre interesting to talk about, but they dont always tangibly move a needle. But in terms of the context of this one, and i think thats what you were just kind of getting at. The fact that its Vice PresidentDick Cheney, if you went back in a Time Machine and told somebody that this would transpire, they would go no, absolutely not. Right and the thing is, by itself, maybe matters a little bit, maybe doesnt, but youre making now a case youre putting together a bunch of legos here. Just say there is a safe choice and there is a risky choice. Theres a choice that is within the bounds of our system and its a choice, its outside the bounds of our system. And when you have a convicted crockett, an insurrectionist who lies every single day to the point that a Dick Cheney, john mccains kid are jumping from the party that they love of to not just say, im going to stay out of it too aggressively, make the case that we have to go a calm harris if you are in the middle and you dont know what to do it should be a massive signal. And scott, im just thinking back to your days working for that administration. Some of those voters who really loved george w bush, loved Dick Cheney dont the themselves reflected in the current Republican Party or with Donald Trump do you do you understand that . What do you say to them and what do you think this this sort of move, the case that theyre building as van was just talking about says to a voter like that theres no question that the parties have changed. I mean, since the george w. Bush days, you have had cohorts of republicans that have migrated out and some of them have migrated over the democratic party. Its also true that the democratic party has changed. Youve had a lot of working class voters, union members, and others who migrated over to the Republican Party. So you have had some across pollenation, some shifting coalitions. And what i would simply say is that cracks have called Dick Cheney a war criminal for 20 years. And now all of a sudden theyre clapping like seals to get his endorsement. This does not strike me as people who are interested in listening to your conservative viewpoints. They are hungry for power they will take Dick Cheneys endorsement today, but believe you me in their hearts, they wouldnt want to go at that dinner with Dick Cheney, let alone have him have any influence over the next government. And Id Doubt that he would ban any last thoughts. Well, i mean, the feeling is probably mutual. Give you a sense of what a big threat Donald Trump is. A, you are correct. I dont think big change they want to hang out with us and vice versa. But there will be one day we stand together and it will be a november to stop Donald Trump from running american. All right. Scott jennings and van jones. Always a pleasure. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. On tuesday night, Vice PresidentKamala Harris and former President Donald Trump sharing the stage for that debate that america is waiting for, you can Follow Cnn for complete comprehension an exclusive analysis before and after that debate that abc News President ial debates simulcast starts tuesday at 9 00 p. M. Eastern On Cnn ahead. New video obtained lucidly by cnn appears to show russian soldiers killing ukrainian troops in Cold Blood after they surrendered. 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