And now the hbo original series real time with Bill Maher start the clock i, everybody. How are you doing . Hi thank you. People thank you. How are you everybody hi. Thank you. Hi all right. I know. Exciting time of year. Thank you very much. Youre very kind okay. Sit down. We got a big show. Theres a lot to talk about. Election is only two months away. And of course, happens every time. Its tied does it even matter who runs . Every year we do this its tied. It always comes down to a few thousand people in three states who cant make up their mind between two items on the menu You Know the best thing, the best thing about living in california is that were not a swing state. So they leave us alone really . I mean all year in l. A. i think ive seen one Trump Sign and Scott Baio was sleeping under it just a joke. We can all in good fun. No, we have we have much bigger problems out here. It was 104 today. Here it was 118 in the valley. Oh, i was sweating like j. D. Vance in a donut shop. I wow oh, it was hot. Kanyes wife asked him if she could put something on so she could take something off. I mean, it was but if youre a political watcher, it is getting exciting because the debate is tuesday, a few days away. Are you excited about that 00, i cannot wait to see this Thing Trump and kamala. Trump says he doesnt know whether kamala is indian or shell be black that night so hes preparing two sets of slurs oh, and this is great. They finally resolved the Microphone Issue of the debate. Theyve been arguing about this for weeks now. Kamala wanted the mics on when the other guy was talking so we could find out what a Nut Trump is. You know, like its not like we dont know. And trump wanted them off and trump won. The microphones will be off. And this is weird. He also asked that my microphone be turned off. I but very very strict rules during this debate. No huddling with your advisers during the commercial breaks. You only get when youre out there a pad, Paper And Water and a kamala asked for tim walz. But other than that but look the democrats switched their strategy. You know, they used to be about democracy. Trump is threatening democracy, which he is. But that shit didnt sell and democracy, whatever. So they went to hes weird people love this this is selling. People are buying this one. And its really upsetting trump because he was doing an interview with Sean Hannity and hes kind of obsessed with this weird thing. He said, no walls is The One. Thats weird. He said, jd, he said, j. D. Vance is a Solid Rock and then he said, and You Know what . Im a very Solid Rock. Thats so trump. He always has to be better. Even when hes calling you a rock, he has to be a better rock. I mean its almost like its weird, but but heres the other thing that weve seen this many times. You see it every election cycle. Theyre going through it again. The music that the republican plays at their rallies is not the beat of the people theyre playing to want. Dont play our music we hate you Bruce Springsteen went through it. You two went through this. Jackson brown rage against The Machine. Had to tell the guy look, we hate you. We think you are The Machine thats why were raging so now now i think the Isaac Hayes Estate is upset because trump has been playing. Hold on, im coming. And he said, no, you cant play. Hold on. Im coming. And trump said, oh, what else am i ever going to hear that . Come on and okay so two months of the election and again something weve seen before. And now we see it every time russia is at it again interfering with our elections. We saw it when they got involved with facebook putting shit up there remember 2016. We saw it again in 2020. All Social Media now this time theyre big on influencers, gamers any any place where real people are online. 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Should we have been in all those or any of them answer any of these questions . Yeah well, ill tell you, i think one of the themes that goes through the book is really what a privilege it is to serve and defend the country. And i got to i really, You Know You Know, i got to be i got to be part of teams where the Man Or Woman next to you is willing to give everything including their own lives, for you. And what people dont understand. A lot of times, bill is a good military unit, a good Army Unit takes on the character of a family, You Know, and youre bound together by common trust, purpose and and really, You Know, the willingness to sacrifice for one another, a sense of honor and so it was a privilege to serve every day, i think, in the gulf war, You Know, it was obviously a just war in terms of Saddam Husseins illegal annexation of of kuwait i remember right after the wall fell, this was in in 1989, our our troop, our Cavalry Troop had been patrolling the eastwest german border when it happened. I remember i had like a silly argument with my wife right after she said, youre just mad because you dont have an enemy anymore. Well, You Know thanks to Saddam Hussein You Know, invading invading. It wasnt really our enemy, certainly not for the iraq war. Well, but if you if you think about, like what would be had nothing to do with nine over 11. Well, no, im talking about the gulf war. I know, but what about when you go when you go to when you fast forward now to 2003. I think theres a consensus now that if it wasnt a big mistake if it wasnt unjust to to to, to wage that war, which i think its important to understand, Saddam Hussein was trying to convince All Of Us that he had nuclear weapons because he thought that was the best way for him to prevent an attack. Of course, after nine over 11, thats the way to actually incite an attack against you. So and then, of course, in afghanistan, the War In Afghanistan followed, You Know, the most murderous Terrorist Attack in history, where we lost, You Know 3000 people on nine over 11. Yeah, but not by the country of afghanistan. One guy who by the time we got to afghanistan was already in pakistan but it was it was the taliban who played host to to the to Al Qaeda all through the 90s. Bill like, You Know, remember, they You Know, they had declared war on us in early 90s. We didnt take it seriously then there was the first World Trade Center bombing with the trucks underneath the World Trade Center we fired a few cruise missiles, called it a day. And so it is really necessary to defeat these enemies of all civilized people to take away their their safe havens. I couldnt i couldnt agree more. Its how we do it that were arguing about. Do we need to occupy whole countries . I mean, what i read about your background and in your book, like when you were in afghanistan, a lot of what you were doing if i could just sum it, maybe im summing it or summarizing it wrong, but sort of monitoring the bribery we were giving out. Is that is that wrong . I ran a Counter Corruption organized crime Task Force there that stood up way late. Yeah, well, a friend of mine, a friend of mine, general general tony zinni, hes a fantastic person. Yeah. He called me up and said, hey congratulations on commanding the antigravity Task Force, You Know, but but, You Know, i but but really, what happened in afghanistan, i think bill and, You Know, i wrote my last Book Battlegrounds in large measure to explain this. What went wrong there . By the time i was confronting the problem of afghanistan, that i cover in detail in a war with ourselves, it hadnt been a 16 Year War at that point in 2017, it had been a one Year War fought 16 times over. And what happened is, i think, bill, our our short term approach, what was a long term problem, actually lengthened that war and made it a heck of a lot more costly and then the abandonment of the afghan people is such a tragedy. I mean, its still it causes heartbreak for me. I mean, let alone the afghans who are now thrust back. I see now women are not allowed to make any sounds in public. Womens voices are now outlawed and i see all the College Kids are upset and protesting that, oh no, theyre not no, theyre not fucking stupid anyway what i would say to the american soldiers and and servicemen and women who served in afghanistan who were heartbroken, disheartened by the disastrous withdrawal in august of 2021. I would say to them, look at what afghanistan is now and be proud of what you prevented and be proud of how you helped the afghan people enjoy that period of freedom from the taliban from 2001 to 2021. Remember, the people in afghanistan lived under the hell of taliban rule from 96 to 2001. After the civil war. Now they got it again. They have it again. So you lasted 13 months under trump, which is pretty good, right . Yeah, exactly. You know, You Know, one of the many one of the many national security biases. I mean you had a lot of generals around him. I thought among the generals that was one of the smarter things he did. I mean look, i dont agree with everything. Probably you say or mattis or general kelly, theyre probably a little more conservative than i am, but i dont doubt that theyre patriots. And smart people, good people, people who Have America In Mind first, theyre not corrupt okay um i worry if trump wins again because i feel like theres two kinds of generals in the world. The kind i just described. Eisenhower would be another one. Petraeus really good people. I mean, smart people who sacrificed more before 9 a. M. Than most people ever do in their whole life. And then theres general flynn yeah. Or in another era, You Know, general curtis lemay, The One in the the guy i wrote about him in dereliction of duty, You Know. Yeah. I mean, theres crazy ones during the cuban Missile Crisis yeah. A lot of them wanted to start a nuclear war. What do you see for the next term . And who are the generals going to be around trump then . Well, You Know, i know all these guys and gals, You Know, across our Armed Forces know. And i knew general flynn for many years. He was ill tell you, bill, he was a full on qanon. I write about it in the book. I dont know what happened to him, i really dont, but i do know i do know that he was treated unfairly at the outset as national Security Adviser. He was kind of railroaded out of there. The fbi interviewed him. He was talking to russia. No no, i mean, i write about this in the book, but i also write that hes not the same person i knew. You know and and i think what is what is lamentable about his behavior is on a number of levels is hes been one of the people and one of the dynamics associated with kind of trying to drag the military into partizan politics. We have to really guard against that. I mean, i tell the story in the book that, You Know, i took the oath of service at age 17 on the plane at west point. I never even voted, You Know, because i followed the example of George Marshall to have that bold line in place, You Know, and and i think the tone in the book, You Know, is one of nonpartizanship its critical of President Trump You Know, as it should be, its not a diet, but its not a diatribe against him, You Know, and and got some things right, seem to have a lot of problems with both sides. I would describe it as reckless versus feckless. You think trump. Yeah. Right well i think i think that. Right. I mean, you think i think Thats Trump is reckless but you think Obama And Biden and harris are feckless. Is that. Well, i think their policies have been feckless, in particular in connection with iran and The Middle East and the support for israel. I think what has happened is when they came back into office they resurrected the same failed policies of the Obama Administration in connection with trying to welcome iran back into the international order under the hope that iran would moderate. It only failed because trump undid it we never really tried it, and i never understood the bug up your ass. Not your ass. Excuse me, general, but Peoples Ass about look, i would say we have four enemies in the world. We have china, we have russia. We have north korea, and we have iran. Thank you. Why are we applauding our enemies . Hey, lets get five. No, i call it the. I call it. Its the axis of aggressors. Okay . You Cant Fight Everybody at once. I would say if youre going to find two who you could bring into the family of nations its probably russia. And iran, because i dont think the populations of those countries want to be where they are now china. Too much of a surveillance state, too much of a Dictatorship North Korea is just a Basket Case of of brainwashed people. Those arent going to happen. The iran deal. I mean, i have the things here irans stockpile of enriched uranium was reduced by 98 until 2031. The r d, the research, existing facilities redesigned so they could not produce Weapons Grade Plutonium international inspectors allowed to access any site in the country anytime they wanted. What do you want . I mean this is what negotiations are. Youre not going