Continues straight from the source tonight, i have new reporting abouout donald trump and the debate fallout as he's unsure about a rematch with vice president harris my source tonight, the person who played trump in her debate prep also the second most notable handshake that has happened in the last 24 hours between donald donald trump and kamala harris. And from washington tonight, we're gonna speak with senators cory booker and bill hagerty, and also congresswoman ilhan omar will all join me live in studio and apparently she is in her harris era of taylor swift's endorsement of the vice president pleads to a sudden spike in voter registration interests. Could this celebrity endorsement be the one that actually moves the needle? we'll find out. I'm kaitlan collins and this is the source it didn't take long to go from anywhere any time, any place to anything, but that tonight, donald trump now says he's not sure if he wants a rematch with vice president harris but looking at it, but you know, when you, when you don't really necessarily have to do it a second time. So we'll say winter fighter is a bad fight gets knocked out or loses to fight the first thing he says is we want a rematch so we won the debate according to every poll, every single poll i think that are we going to do a rematch? i just don't know. That we'll think about him donald trump claiming he won that debate as even some of his own allies are conceding privately to me tonight that at best, it wasn't drawn. We'll get more to that reporting in a moment. But if you needed any indication of how trump himself felt about the performance look at what he did immediately after he got off stage last night, coming to what is known and politics as the spin room. That's usually where surrogates show up to spin their respective candidates performance. But last night, this candidate took matters into his own hands, telling me this some of your advisors are worried that excuse me, that you took the bait from kamala harris tonight. What would you say debate tonight. This was my best debate. We had a 92% rating and one poll. We had an 86% rating and another we had 77% in another, we had, we want every one of the polls that came out tonight, than there were quite a few of them when the first debate now on the books, there's real questions about whether or not there will be a second. There was a second handshake today, perhaps more surprising even in that first one that we all watched last night, this one came just hours later at ground zero new york, marking the 23rd anniversary of 9/11 is michael bloomberg, the former new york city mayor broker that shake that you're seeing there stood in stark contrast to what we all witnessed last night. A dominating performance from harris to knock trump off his course, getting him to take the bait over and over again. That even one of his the prize surrogates had trouble spinning today are clearly won the debate in terms of her delivery her polish, her organization, and her preparation i think i'm just i'm just ends a president trump wins interim his governance but he didn't tell that story i lead source tonight, might be the main reason why trump was knocked so off his game. Able speak to him in a second, but i do want to start with some new reporting for you tonight on what happened in philadelphia last night. I'm told that as soon as donald trump i'm exited that debate stage, he immediately began quizzing those waiting in his viewing room about how the last 90 minutes had gone while several people praised him to his face, telling him they did a great job. That's not what a lot of them are saying privately today. Instead, those around trump have described what happened as a draw at best and lost at worst several of them told cnn they were stunned that the former president failed to do a better job executing on the talking points that he had been preparing with his team for weeks against vice president harris. Her record, her policy reversals, trope. It actually done more debate prep ahead of his first meeting with harris that he did for his debate with president biden earlier the summer. Yet they didn't believe that he made some of the central arguments against her, including this one about why she hasn't carried out the promises that she's making now, in the last 3. 5 years that she has been in office, he didn't go there until his closing argument that surprised a lot of people in his inner circle instead, they believe that trump took the bait every single time. Harris offered it up while multiple trump allies described what happened last night as a missed opportunity for the former president. They have since started downplaying the debates significant overall, arguing that it won't shift his numbers with voters in states like pennsylvania trump, himself has noncommittal today about a potential second debate, but almost every ally of his that i spoke with, they do ultimately believe he will agree to one we want to start this hour with my inside source, felipe rionous, who reprised the role of donald trump during harris's debate prep sessions, which he first played eight years ago for hillary clinton, which was described by our friend annie karni as a method actor kind of role. You took three months off work for that. You posted a picture today of your debate prep you are dressed in a dark suit, a red tie, and i believe that his bronzer on your face it's not just browser, it's about three layers of bronzer and i had makeup done earlier and the artist's said, oh, you don't have makeup on. And i said no okay. What do you mean and i realized that no matter how much everyone she my face and showering, i can't get it off. I don't see why he's always liked that but, you know, look, he's going to do another one. He can't leave it like this. But tell me what you did to prep for this one. Obviously, donald trump has a lot of experience on the debate stage, as his allies were hoping that he would have a stronger pedunn a presidential debate before. Obviously, how did you get her ready to go up not just on the presidential debate stage, but against donald trump. Well, i mean, firstly, it's a team and it was colead by karen dunn of the ron klain model and rohini kosoglu, who's known the vice president forever. I had never met her, which i guess turned out for the best because he had never met better i was focused on the left side of the screen, just making sure that she could get used to what she would see and feel it. I always think of it as the ball machine. You'll want to test the forehand. The ball comes at you, you want do backhand. But you've got tennis pros. The point being, you want them to say what they want to say, because it's a job interview. You've got millions of people who are trying to side. And he knows that the only way he can get the job is by not letting or speak, not letting her getting her ideas out. And to do that, you have to be loud. You have to be buffoonish. You have to lie like there's no tomorrow. And she did amazing job of doing three things. One showing that she's presidential. I mean, that woman last night is a real deal and that was a gameday player. Did you break character at all? i mean, hillary clinton famously said that you wouldn't break character even at lunch. And what maybe once or twice my my alarm in my house went off once and i had to answer the phone to give them the safe word that was just for timing but you know, she showed this year's presidential, she made a really good point that people haven't done, which is that the guy was president for four years. He has a record. It's a failing record, and he was fired for that has not been made enough and you have this idea of amnesia and third, i mean, look, i did this eight years ago and i did it now. I've had to watch him and pretend and he's to compensating his language, how he thinks, how he speaks. Do you think he's different now than when you were prepped? absolutely. Absolutely. Eight years ago, he would digress he would talk about china than you're talking about the bank of china was in trump tower the was all a place but to some extent structure. Now, he's over the board. You're talking about cats and it's not just that you're talking about cats and dogs, which is crazy and of itself it's that you're going from rally size to cats and dogs. It's a malfunctioning appliance. It's like we all have people in our lives with a laptop at some point it might have been the laptop now, it's the battery drains fast, the screen colors are off. It's really heavy considering what's going on. And you have to restart a lot to get back to factory default. And i think that's what we saw last night. He is not carrying thoughts through when i if i were to lose my train of thought, why now it'd be silent for a second or two and then i'd recover i think he's losing train of thought and he's just blurting out the next thing in his mind. He's not using names a lot like look, he goes off about covid but never mind is anthony fauci. I mean, if this had been four years ago, you'd have to hear five minutes about anthony fauci or jim comey when he goes off about russia. That's interesting. What at searing moments was the entrance on the debate stage? she kind of strode over and shook his hand set her name. Obviously they had they had never met. Was that rehearsed? how is that decided? it's not a matter of rehearsal. I mean, it's a human thing to do before donald trump ran for president, you'd never even have a conversation about what barak, obama and mitt romney have. A handshake and hillary shook his hand. The first debate after access hollywood, the second debate, she basically said, i'm not touching that guy. The had covid. She basically was the bigger person and she's like, you know, we're going to start this out. Never met. Hi, i'm kamala and you know what dude maybe you can, you know, damn well how to pronounce my name. Maybe you should stop trying to keep the fox audience. This is, this is just admire, wanted to shake his hand though. Yeah. I mean, she clearly, you know, in her mind that was the right bigger thing to do. Trump's allies are irritated that he did keep taking the bait that was so obviously bait, especially when she talked about crowd sizes and she invited people to go to his rally, talked about people getting exhausted did leaving early, which doesn't necessarily have him because they don't like him. It's just i mean, those rallies there for hours, you can go there in line. I've been to many of them. I've watched many of them. You decide and debate prep which things to try to target to get under his skin it's not targeting per say, it's first of all, their facts i mean, forget that one aside about something in particular, when you talk about someone talking about sharks and electrocution, or hannibal lecter those are facts and they're making a larger point. You're talking about someone detached from reality or someone who's not thinking about you. I mean, they're not just gratuitous shots what if she had just been sitting there going for tat with him that would be pointless. But she it gave her space to tell people. This is what he did. This is why he was fired. This is what we inherited. This is what present biden i tried, and this is what i'm going to do going forward. If you don't give yourself the space to do that, to carve that out. He is going to pretend that he just came on the scene a month ago and that he has never had a record. He has never failed on immigration. I mean, the border wall, it's not there. It's just not there. We all heard it. It's important to make that clear and she did a phenomenal job of doing that well, and kevin madden is you listen to what the prep looks like behind the scenes. What do you make of how she executed and how trump responded to it? well, i think the brilliance of her strategy as he was that it was very simple, right? i mean, she wanted to do two things. You want to talk directly to swing voters about the issues that they care about, that they still need an information phil from her on. And then she wanted to essentially beat trump into talking about everything. But the issues that people care about and talk about the past and relitigate the past and he did that every single time. And so that was like it was such a clear contrast that it was a case of a strategy versus no strategy and that had to i think sink into the consciousness of a lot of voters out there who make up this, make up their minds on this, on performance and they judge it on performance but they also well said if i'm looking for somebody who understands the problems that people like me and has. He's going to talk about where we're going to take this country in the future. There was a very clear sense of which candidate that was last night. Yeah, i do. Well. And kristen soltis anderson, we heard from somebody top officials today who said, we don't care what the pundants think we care what pennsylvania voters think i'll do. Voters look at what happened last night how harris made those arguments against so many comments of trump from trump that we've heard over the years. How did they receive something like that? so because this debate was so much about donald trump, that's why i think you are unlikely to see the polls move a ton. It was definitely a better debate for harris than for trump. And so to the extent that she was hoping to keep the positive momentum going, coming out of the dnc. She had made this a close race. Can you keep the balloon up in the air? this debate probably did help that a little bit. But it also, i don't think clearly defined her on the terms she wanted to be defined by donald trump also, frankly threw away they every opportunity to find her on his terms but it was really a debate that kept being about donald trump. I think harris is more than happy to have it be that way, right? she keeps making the case. I'm not the incumbent. Don't look at lee. I donald trump's the incumbent. He's been the main character and politics for the last decade and last night's debate really underscored that, but that's why i think it gets unlikely to make a big, big, big difference in the polls. Well, and i also was thinking of how these undecided voters were viewing harris herself because what they've seen so much of our clips of some of her comments out on the campaign trail, word salad kind of moments that she's had that were not strongest moments that a lot of politicians have had. But saw very different harris than what has always been portrayed, maybe in conservative media by republicans know that's the sort of managing expectations. Some part of this, and i thank you know, usually when you have these debates, you try to lower the expectations beforehand. But i think both candidates know that since we're kind of in this european snap election cycle, they had to embrace the stakes two of the race. And but everybody's saying that harris is going to fall flat on her face and she can't she doesn't have any plan and then she actually starts to talk in some detail, not great detail. I mean, i think that that charge is still true, but about things like housing, about inflation, about the economy, about national security the commander in test, that sort of very difficult for a lot of people to pass when you're going up against an incumbent president. You know, i think she reached it last night. And so you have a lot of votes to christmas point. You have a lot of voters out there right now that left that debate last night, and they're very curious about her they're not yet converted, but they're on the path and that's really all you can ask for when you have, when you have an opportunity to talk directly to 57 million people with only 50 plus days to go to election day yeah. I mean, you've got that sliver who still doesn't know at seven or 8% and you don't know what they're basing it on. But there's not a single one of those people that watch class night who as a result of the debate said, you know what trump's looking better to me than he was 90 minutes ago. People want to learn more about kamala harris. And when they do they like or look, i only met her six weeks ago if i were sitting at home last night and i was watching that debate, i would think she is ready to be president right now. And i think that guy needs to be locked up. It seems to me the key that she was the key groups she's trying to speak to were there are about 7% of trump voters actually don't like him personally. They're like, i just can't with this guy. But on policy, i lean more to the right. I think he's probably better on policy. Kamala harris embraced the support of goldman sachs as my economic plan is good. Dick cheney says it's a good president. I own a gun. I mean, she was really lay it on thick to try to reach out to any republican or x republican voter that i don't know if i can go there with san francisco liberal kamala, but if she's actually moderate, maybe i'll give her a second. Yeah. The gun come it was notable. She said it in a cnn town hall in 2019, but obviously it was triple to hear it there. Thank you all so much, especially felipe, who's wearing his cufflinks still from playing donald trump up next advice on the intense road ahead in his campaign trail. We're going to speak to to harris supporters. 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