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Continues straight from the source tonight, i have new reporting abouout donald trump and the debate fallout as he's unsure about a rematch with vice president harris my source tonight, the person who played trump in her debate prep also the second most notable handshake that has happened in the last 24 hours between donald donald trump and kamala harris. And from washington tonight, we're gonna speak with senators cory booker and bill hagerty, and also congresswoman ilhan omar will all join me live in studio and apparently she is in her harris era of taylor swift's endorsement of the vice president pleads to a sudden spike in voter registration interests. Could this celebrity endorsement be the one that actually moves the needle? we'll find out. I'm kaitlan collins and this is the source it didn't take long to go from anywhere any time, any place to anything, but that tonight, donald trump now says he's not sure if he wants a rematch with vice president harris but looking at it, but you know, when you, when you don't really necessarily have to do it a second time. So we'll say winter fighter is a bad fight gets knocked out or loses to fight the first thing he says is we want a rematch so we won the debate according to every poll, every single poll i think that are we going to do a rematch? i just don't know. That we'll think about him donald trump claiming he won that debate as even some of his own allies are conceding privately to me tonight that at best, it wasn't drawn. We'll get more to that reporting in a moment. But if you needed any indication of how trump himself felt about the performance look at what he did immediately after he got off stage last night, coming to what is known and politics as the spin room. That's usually where surrogates show up to spin their respective candidates performance. But last night, this candidate took matters into his own hands, telling me this some of your advisors are worried that excuse me, that you took the bait from kamala harris tonight. What would you say debate tonight. This was my best debate. We had a 92% rating and one poll. We had an 86% rating and another we had 77% in another, we had, we want every one of the polls that came out tonight, than there were quite a few of them when the first debate now on the books, there's real questions about whether or not there will be a second. There was a second handshake today, perhaps more surprising even in that first one that we all watched last night, this one came just hours later at ground zero new york, marking the 23rd anniversary of 9/11 is michael bloomberg, the former new york city mayor broker that shake that you're seeing there stood in stark contrast to what we all witnessed last night. A dominating performance from harris to knock trump off his course, getting him to take the bait over and over again. That even one of his the prize surrogates had trouble spinning today are clearly won the debate in terms of her delivery her polish, her organization, and her preparation i think i'm just i'm just ends a president trump wins interim his governance but he didn't tell that story i lead source tonight, might be the main reason why trump was knocked so off his game. Able speak to him in a second, but i do want to start with some new reporting for you tonight on what happened in philadelphia last night. I'm told that as soon as donald trump i'm exited that debate stage, he immediately began quizzing those waiting in his viewing room about how the last 90 minutes had gone while several people praised him to his face, telling him they did a great job. That's not what a lot of them are saying privately today. Instead, those around trump have described what happened as a draw at best and lost at worst several of them told cnn they were stunned that the former president failed to do a better job executing on the talking points that he had been preparing with his team for weeks against vice president harris. Her record, her policy reversals, trope. It actually done more debate prep ahead of his first meeting with harris that he did for his debate with president biden earlier the summer. Yet they didn't believe that he made some of the central arguments against her, including this one about why she hasn't carried out the promises that she's making now, in the last 3. 5 years that she has been in office, he didn't go there until his closing argument that surprised a lot of people in his inner circle instead, they believe that trump took the bait every single time. Harris offered it up while multiple trump allies described what happened last night as a missed opportunity for the former president. They have since started downplaying the debates significant overall, arguing that it won't shift his numbers with voters in states like pennsylvania trump, himself has noncommittal today about a potential second debate, but almost every ally of his that i spoke with, they do ultimately believe he will agree to one we want to start this hour with my inside source, felipe rionous, who reprised the role of donald trump during harris's debate prep sessions, which he first played eight years ago for hillary clinton, which was described by our friend annie karni as a method actor kind of role. You took three months off work for that. You posted a picture today of your debate prep you are dressed in a dark suit, a red tie, and i believe that his bronzer on your face it's not just browser, it's about three layers of bronzer and i had makeup done earlier and the artist's said, oh, you don't have makeup on. And i said no okay. What do you mean and i realized that no matter how much everyone she my face and showering, i can't get it off. I don't see why he's always liked that but, you know, look, he's going to do another one. He can't leave it like this. But tell me what you did to prep for this one. Obviously, donald trump has a lot of experience on the debate stage, as his allies were hoping that he would have a stronger pedunn a presidential debate before. Obviously, how did you get her ready to go up not just on the presidential debate stage, but against donald trump. Well, i mean, firstly, it's a team and it was colead by karen dunn of the ron klain model and rohini kosoglu, who's known the vice president forever. I had never met her, which i guess turned out for the best because he had never met better i was focused on the left side of the screen, just making sure that she could get used to what she would see and feel it. I always think of it as the ball machine. You'll want to test the forehand. The ball comes at you, you want do backhand. But you've got tennis pros. The point being, you want them to say what they want to say, because it's a job interview. You've got millions of people who are trying to side. And he knows that the only way he can get the job is by not letting or speak, not letting her getting her ideas out. And to do that, you have to be loud. You have to be buffoonish. You have to lie like there's no tomorrow. And she did amazing job of doing three things. One showing that she's presidential. I mean, that woman last night is a real deal and that was a gameday player. Did you break character at all? i mean, hillary clinton famously said that you wouldn't break character even at lunch. And what maybe once or twice my my alarm in my house went off once and i had to answer the phone to give them the safe word that was just for timing but you know, she showed this year's presidential, she made a really good point that people haven't done, which is that the guy was president for four years. He has a record. It's a failing record, and he was fired for that has not been made enough and you have this idea of amnesia and third, i mean, look, i did this eight years ago and i did it now. I've had to watch him and pretend and he's to compensating his language, how he thinks, how he speaks. Do you think he's different now than when you were prepped? absolutely. Absolutely. Eight years ago, he would digress he would talk about china than you're talking about the bank of china was in trump tower the was all a place but to some extent structure. Now, he's over the board. You're talking about cats and it's not just that you're talking about cats and dogs, which is crazy and of itself it's that you're going from rally size to cats and dogs. It's a malfunctioning appliance. It's like we all have people in our lives with a laptop at some point it might have been the laptop now, it's the battery drains fast, the screen colors are off. It's really heavy considering what's going on. And you have to restart a lot to get back to factory default. And i think that's what we saw last night. He is not carrying thoughts through when i if i were to lose my train of thought, why now it'd be silent for a second or two and then i'd recover i think he's losing train of thought and he's just blurting out the next thing in his mind. He's not using names a lot like look, he goes off about covid but never mind is anthony fauci. I mean, if this had been four years ago, you'd have to hear five minutes about anthony fauci or jim comey when he goes off about russia. That's interesting. What at searing moments was the entrance on the debate stage? she kind of strode over and shook his hand set her name. Obviously they had they had never met. Was that rehearsed? how is that decided? it's not a matter of rehearsal. I mean, it's a human thing to do before donald trump ran for president, you'd never even have a conversation about what barak, obama and mitt romney have. A handshake and hillary shook his hand. The first debate after access hollywood, the second debate, she basically said, i'm not touching that guy. The had covid. She basically was the bigger person and she's like, you know, we're going to start this out. Never met. Hi, i'm kamala and you know what dude maybe you can, you know, damn well how to pronounce my name. Maybe you should stop trying to keep the fox audience. This is, this is just admire, wanted to shake his hand though. Yeah. I mean, she clearly, you know, in her mind that was the right bigger thing to do. Trump's allies are irritated that he did keep taking the bait that was so obviously bait, especially when she talked about crowd sizes and she invited people to go to his rally, talked about people getting exhausted did leaving early, which doesn't necessarily have him because they don't like him. It's just i mean, those rallies there for hours, you can go there in line. I've been to many of them. I've watched many of them. You decide and debate prep which things to try to target to get under his skin it's not targeting per say, it's first of all, their facts i mean, forget that one aside about something in particular, when you talk about someone talking about sharks and electrocution, or hannibal lecter those are facts and they're making a larger point. You're talking about someone detached from reality or someone who's not thinking about you. I mean, they're not just gratuitous shots what if she had just been sitting there going for tat with him that would be pointless. But she it gave her space to tell people. This is what he did. This is why he was fired. This is what we inherited. This is what present biden i tried, and this is what i'm going to do going forward. If you don't give yourself the space to do that, to carve that out. He is going to pretend that he just came on the scene a month ago and that he has never had a record. He has never failed on immigration. I mean, the border wall, it's not there. It's just not there. We all heard it. It's important to make that clear and she did a phenomenal job of doing that well, and kevin madden is you listen to what the prep looks like behind the scenes. What do you make of how she executed and how trump responded to it? well, i think the brilliance of her strategy as he was that it was very simple, right? i mean, she wanted to do two things. You want to talk directly to swing voters about the issues that they care about, that they still need an information phil from her on. And then she wanted to essentially beat trump into talking about everything. But the issues that people care about and talk about the past and relitigate the past and he did that every single time. And so that was like it was such a clear contrast that it was a case of a strategy versus no strategy and that had to i think sink into the consciousness of a lot of voters out there who make up this, make up their minds on this, on performance and they judge it on performance but they also well said if i'm looking for somebody who understands the problems that people like me and has. He's going to talk about where we're going to take this country in the future. There was a very clear sense of which candidate that was last night. Yeah, i do. Well. And kristen soltis anderson, we heard from somebody top officials today who said, we don't care what the pundants think we care what pennsylvania voters think i'll do. Voters look at what happened last night how harris made those arguments against so many comments of trump from trump that we've heard over the years. How did they receive something like that? so because this debate was so much about donald trump, that's why i think you are unlikely to see the polls move a ton. It was definitely a better debate for harris than for trump. And so to the extent that she was hoping to keep the positive momentum going, coming out of the dnc. She had made this a close race. Can you keep the balloon up in the air? this debate probably did help that a little bit. But it also, i don't think clearly defined her on the terms she wanted to be defined by donald trump also, frankly threw away they every opportunity to find her on his terms but it was really a debate that kept being about donald trump. I think harris is more than happy to have it be that way, right? she keeps making the case. I'm not the incumbent. Don't look at lee. I donald trump's the incumbent. He's been the main character and politics for the last decade and last night's debate really underscored that, but that's why i think it gets unlikely to make a big, big, big difference in the polls. Well, and i also was thinking of how these undecided voters were viewing harris herself because what they've seen so much of our clips of some of her comments out on the campaign trail, word salad kind of moments that she's had that were not strongest moments that a lot of politicians have had. But saw very different harris than what has always been portrayed, maybe in conservative media by republicans know that's the sort of managing expectations. Some part of this, and i thank you know, usually when you have these debates, you try to lower the expectations beforehand. But i think both candidates know that since we're kind of in this european snap election cycle, they had to embrace the stakes two of the race. And but everybody's saying that harris is going to fall flat on her face and she can't she doesn't have any plan and then she actually starts to talk in some detail, not great detail. I mean, i think that that charge is still true, but about things like housing, about inflation, about the economy, about national security the commander in test, that sort of very difficult for a lot of people to pass when you're going up against an incumbent president. You know, i think she reached it last night. And so you have a lot of votes to christmas point. You have a lot of voters out there right now that left that debate last night, and they're very curious about her they're not yet converted, but they're on the path and that's really all you can ask for when you have, when you have an opportunity to talk directly to 57 million people with only 50 plus days to go to election day yeah. I mean, you've got that sliver who still doesn't know at seven or 8% and you don't know what they're basing it on. But there's not a single one of those people that watch class night who as a result of the debate said, you know what trump's looking better to me than he was 90 minutes ago. People want to learn more about kamala harris. And when they do they like or look, i only met her six weeks ago if i were sitting at home last night and i was watching that debate, i would think she is ready to be president right now. And i think that guy needs to be locked up. It seems to me the key that she was the key groups she's trying to speak to were there are about 7% of trump voters actually don't like him personally. They're like, i just can't with this guy. But on policy, i lean more to the right. I think he's probably better on policy. Kamala harris embraced the support of goldman sachs as my economic plan is good. Dick cheney says it's a good president. I own a gun. I mean, she was really lay it on thick to try to reach out to any republican or x republican voter that i don't know if i can go there with san francisco liberal kamala, but if she's actually moderate, maybe i'll give her a second. Yeah. The gun come it was notable. She said it in a cnn town hall in 2019, but obviously it was triple to hear it there. Thank you all so much, especially felipe, who's wearing his cufflinks still from playing donald trump up next advice on the intense road ahead in his campaign trail. We're going to speak to to harris supporters. 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Com i'm bill weir on the california coast and this is cnn closed captioning brought to you by meso book if you or a loved one have mesothelial, will send you a free book to answer questions you may have called now and we'll come to you 808 to 14000 fresh off her debate with donald trump, vice president harris's team is huddling at campaign headquarters today, strategizing about their next move. Her aides tell cnn that they're operating under the assumption that the trajectory of this race remains unchanged tonight, harris said as much herself last night as she called herself underdog when she stomped by a celebration with supporters. I'm told by source tonight is the democratic senator from new jersey, cory booker, senator, great to have you. Does last night and her performance, which many people in your party, including yourself have praised does it change this race for the next eight weeks and how she runs it? first of is really, really important that you got your first sidebyside comparison. American got to see these two folks in the contrast between them. And so i think it was really important for people to remind trump to be reminded of who trump is. And i think that's where she gets. She really gave a master's class in allowing the story of trump to come out. Sometimes she told it, but i think the most brilliant thing she did is allow trump to tell the american public himself who they are. It was demeaning. He was degrading, he was sort of in an alex jones type way, dabbling in conspiracies and the like. And it was very helpful. So this was a very good night. And for americans, there are still trying to make up their mind. It was really important. But let's be clear from the second she jumped in this race just four weeks or so ago. She's known that this is an uphill fight and that she has to earn every single vote no she's determined to do that when she's also less of a known quantity to voters, pretty much everyone has an opinion on donald trump when you look at voters, it's a very small slice that may maybe hasn't decided but she was asked a lot of questions last night about her views and her policies. There were several. She did not answer directly. This is a look at those do you believe americans are better off than they were four years ago so i was raised as a middleclass kid and i am actually the only person on the stage who has a plan that is about lifting up the middle class and working people of america. Well, i do the administration wait until six months before the election to act and would you have done anything differently from president biden numbness so i'm the only person on this stage who has prosecuted transnational criminal organizations for the trafficking of guns, drugs, and human beings. You should ask will she allow abortion in the eighth month? the ninth month, seventh month on. Okay. Would you do that why don't you ask my question to you would you go under roe v wade and the question would are detail he did not answer the question about whether he would veto a national abortion ban, but her views on those matters are important. The economy, immigration, abortion. Do you think that she should oh, voters, a direct answer on this question? first of all, it's not that hard. You know this because we you've talked about on your show, she's outlined very specific plans on things like housing. In fact, something that is a former housing advocate in new jersey is really exciting about creating more housing stock, reading more affordable housing, giving americans middleclass tax cuts like expanding the child tax credit. Here's a very detailed plan going out there and she has also told the story that again, but trump was getting wrong when at the end of the trump administration violent crime in this country was skyrocketing at the end of his administration. Violent crime has dramatically going down on her hers jobs in his administration, we were losing manufacturing jobs and employment rate was going up. Now we have one of the lowest measure unemployment rates in our country's history, including the lowest ever for african americans. So there's a story to tell. She's going to continue to tell it, but the idea that she's not being specific is just wrong he however, when asked a simple question, what's your plan for health care? we know you want to take away, obamacare, but what do you want to do? he couldn't mention one simple thing, so i think the stark truth is he's the one that's not putting details out. Up there except for is it's project 2025, which is one of the scariest documents prepared by his former team members that details in a terrifying way. So terrifying that he realizes this doesn't sell with the american people. So he's now trying to run away and distance himself from it. And he has distanced himself with the former director on who said trump didn't have it and they do it if though he's been to maralago himself, but but on immigration, you know, he issues asked would you have done anything differently than help present biden acted on this not imposing a pretty severe executive order until six months before the election. She didn't answer that question, though. She later said, i'm not joe biden it is that somewhere where you feel like she could stake out some different ground for those middle of the road voters who are watching and not sure who they're going to go. Again, i think she has a middle of the road approach and something that again is united states senator that i got to participate in watch whole right before me. While at the end of the day, we tried to pass an immigration pill you had a conservative lankford come together with a blue state democrat, murphy come together and put together a bill. It did not sell on the parts of both sides of the aisle are parts of it that i really don't like. Yeah. But the truth of matter is that bill was there ready to go? she endorsed that. She supported or did it. It would have done a lot of things that donald trump said he wanted, but he came out and rank political opportunism and tanked the plan that would have supported a border patrol's would have helped build more barriers down there. And so this is the hypocrisy that i think she is getting more and more of chance to expose as she who is a serious leader talking about bringing people together, reaching bipartisan compromises, doing the pragmatic things. And let's not forget. And i wish again, i'd probably didn't know who viktor orban was or wouldn't have known before i came to the united states senate, even as a mayor but the reality of what she said about foreign policy the fact that his former defense secretaries of fact, that his former chief of staff, the fact that his intelligence director are all saying he's a danger to this country. The fact that the only leader who could come up with it respects him is somebody that is an autocrat that has seen democratic backsliding. What kamala harris showed last night is that she's ready to lead this it's nation with strength and with statesmanship donald trump again showed was a kind of a frightening picture of a man that was more like alex jones, the demeans and degrades people that creates conspiracy theories and reminded us of the chaos that he brought to the white house when he was there, senator cory booker. Thank you for your time tonight. Thank you for having me up next. There is fallout coming from one of those alex jones level conspiracies that was being pushed last night about haitian migrants abducting household pets more after this when it. Comes to amgen life, changing medical breakthroughs. Every second counts but without investment, those breakthroughs are often pot cities seamlessly connected, banking markets and services businesses deliver global financial solutions. So our client can keep investing in innovations for patients around the world without pause. 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I mean, if someone calls your office and says they saw bigfoot, that doesn't mean they saw why. I mean, you have a sense of responsibility as a running mate and he certainly does as the candidate to not promote false information, right? kaitlan, it's a totally fair point, but nobody is calling my office in saying that they saw bigfoot, what they're the polling and saying is we are seeing migrants kidnap, our dogs and cats and city officials aren't doing anything about it as we noted, no evidence that this is actually even happening. But this moment in a bigger picture does harken back to one that we've seen before on the campaign trail. Like when donald trump said this, when he was in minnesota in 2016, about somali refugees here in minnesota, you've seen firsthand the problems caused with faulty refugee vetting with large numbers of somali refugees coming into your state without your knowledge? without your support or approval my next source knows firsthand what follows political rhetoric like that. The democrat from minnesota representative ilhan omar, whom trump once labeled a disgrace and predicted would help propel him to victory in 2020. That obviously did not happen. But, but on this issue overall, you know, it's obviously a much for complicated and nuanced picture than what the trumpvance campaign are painting about what's happening in springfield. But when you hear a false claim like that amplified to nearly 70 million people, do you worry about what it means for the haitian refugees who are living in places like that? well, first i want to say just the insanity of having a senator a candidate for vice president. And a former president, and now a candidate for president. Really, talking about meaning into reality a racist conspiracy dangerous story, like this what it means is that there are so many people now who are looking for stories to make this true. And it gins up this dangerous reaction by folks who are unstable in which then they go and try to protect these animals that they think that are being attacked by haitian immigrants and cause harm to people who are already vulnerable, who came to this country seeking stability and safety and coming from situations are already for all tile. And i think, you know, when we think about the bigger picture is thinking about what kind of country do we want to be, right? is this the kind of rhetoric and messaging that we want the world to see about who our leaders are and those that could potentially be elected into the highest leadership in our office and in our country. And i think what harris did so well last night was remind the american people that this manic dangerous liar could, cannot be reelected as president of the united states and how crucial it is for us not to go back to the dark and dangerous days of the trump presidency. I imagine you weren't surprised by that last night. And just as we we look at this overall trump last night was talking about harris and calling her this very liberal nominee, talking about how radical she is. He called her a marxist, i believe last night on stage, she's certainly called her that before. She's actually moved to this center on a lot of her policy positions that she held when she was running against senator cory booker and the dem primary and others in 2019. What did you make of that? i mean, would you classify her? is that how would you describe her politics as they stand now? why did love the fact that she wasn't him? she didn't take the bait, and that she stood her ground and she explained where she was on policy in 2020 where she has evolved in her policies. What that means for the american people. The one thing that i think i've always really appreciated about vice president harris and our vice presidential candidate, or my governor tim walz is that they've always been the kind of public servants that listen to the people, to the constituents that they serve and those that seek to serve and implement policies that are coming from those people. And i think that is the kind of leadership that the american people are looking for. People who are willing to listen to the issues that are important, not just to voters, but to every constituency in the country. And make decisions that are going to make their lives better. Well, i'm glad you brought that up because there's really important constituencies in places like your home state and michigan and others. There wasn't a lot of time spent on the israel hamas war. That is underway last night between the two candidates. But when they did talk about it, despite trump saying that israel would cease to exist if harris was elected and they largely agree on the policy of that supporting israel and backing it on a ceasefirehostage deal. She said that she would work around the clock but she didn't offer any specifics on what that would look like. Was that enough of a plan in your view yeah. I mean, i think there is a i believe there is a great appreciation in the empathy and compassion that she offers. But i do believe that voters, both in my district and in minnesota and across the country, that care want to actually see either an implementation of a ceasefire or an actual concrete answer to how we get a ceasefire and why we have not been able to utilize the leverage that we have in order for that ceasefire to be implemented. And of course, i assume by that and part you mean sending arms and weapons to israel, which is something we can, there are tangible actions that could be taken, right? we are supplying the weapons that are causing the catastrophe and so to say you're working around the clock and not take any actionable steps that the voters and the the american people can see makes that rhetoric really hard to swallow is that, you know, that was her rhetoric last night so when you hear about the implementation of a ceasefire deal, we hear all the time from the administration take it or leave it as on the table, take it or leave it is on the table. I talked to the israeli ambassador to the u. N. Last week, he said the idea of a ceasefire being closest is just not realistic at this map. I think and i think that is where it does feel this disingenuous because we hear our secretary of state blinken who was an owl travel to israel, i believe 11 times who makes these statements as he's departing the country for egypt and says, we are very close. A deal has been reached bibi netanyahu is there. And then we see the, the humiliation that follows as bebe takes the stage right after he departs and says, there is no such thing and i think for a country that is not only considered as a leader in the world, but a country that is directly in in support, in supplying these weapons to israel to not do that after the first time that they backtracked on what they promised us, not do that on the second time, not do that on the third time. 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I can just tell you my experience with patients in florida has been very positive. Were you comfortable attempt continuing to say the election was stolen in 2020? i don't think you should say stuff that may be may make it harder for people to vote for you my republican source tonight is one of the names potentially being discussed as a possible member of trump's cabinet, senator bill hagerty of tennessee. Great to have you here. Senator. You just heard from some republicans critical trump's performance. What was your assessment? you know, i watched the debate very carefully last night as i did the debate back in june with joe biden, i think president trump actually won the debate because i think the american people didn't get a chance to hear at all how kamala harris can explain the pivoting of every single position that she's taken that's what we were there to hear. And i think the basic question, the fundamental question is the question that president trump put to the audience at the end is america better off under the bidenharris administration? are they better off under his administration? i think the answer is clear. We didn't get at that. Kamala harris never explain to us how americans would be better off. In fact, almost two thirds of americans say that the country is headed in the wrong direction. I don't think we heard anything last night that would make us think that anything different as you want other republicans who wishes that he had articulated that at the beginning of the debate instead at the end, obviously the beginning, it's the height of people watching that is an argument that other republicans believe is more effective. It's an outstanding handing argument, but at the very beginning, kamala harris promised to unpack and explain all of the policy positions he's changed on. And then she proceeded to explain none of them president trump was assaulted with all kinds of lies and misinformation. And he's trying to deal with that at the same time, get his point across. I think he did a good job attorney back and trying to let the american people see that policies under his administration made their lives better off. If you think about it, the economy was growing at almost twice the rate of any major economy in the world after he took office you think about what's happening right now. Our economy is in a very bad place. Americans are hurting under president trump every american was doing better. Their real wages went up blue collar workers more than white collar workers? today. Workers are hurting, real wages are down. Harris does have her fair share of of policy reversals, but isn't it trump's job to bring that up, to push her on that while he's on the debate stage with her. Well, he certainly attempted to do that last night, but he was doing that in the face of moderators that were fact checking him right, left, and center and never fact checking her one of the fact checks though, had to be about haitian immigrants. Do you believe that that he had should not have weighted into that given officials in that city say there's no evidence of it well, he talked about evidence. I've heard conflicting reports. There's conflicting evidence. There's a lot of information in the internet that this is happening, but here's the real problem here, but no real credible evidence for is the credible governments in springfield, ohio, the governor is sending in state troopers and millions of dollars to deal with the problem that's happening across america i mean, the question is, have you been into an emergency room lightly? have you tried to find a teacher that can teach english as a second language and a school we have these problems in my home state of tennessee thanks to this flow of over 10 million illegal migrants that have flooded this country under borders are kamala harris is walsh. It's a fair point in the sense of we've heard from city officials who say school systems are being overwhelmed, hospitals are being overwhelmed. We have not heard from one city official who said that patient immigrants are abducting pets are doing that aren't the only source. There are plenty of people who are saying this is happening. So i think it just needs to be verified, but the real when you talk to that immigrants, people there were the police commissioner people there have said that there's just no evidence of it, but immigrants and claps that city. Why is the governor is sending state troopers in and millions of dollars like he's complaining that the federal government, congress is not doing more to help them in this need and sending that money but i do want to ask you about something because just take one extra point on that because go ahead and answer. Isn't the congress right here? the answer is the executive branch, the biden administration came in and kamala harris, as borders are in the first 100 days, issued, 94 executive orders tearing down the most secure border that we had under president from that in fact, brought this flow of illegal migrants that is causing the province springfield, ohio. And in my home state, i think immigration is a fair point, but i think a false claim is is what people have an issue with, but i do want to ask you about something because when trump got off his plane in philadelphia last night, i was watching who was getting off with him and laura loomer was one of the people. I don't know if, you know who she is is that she's, a far right activist on twitter. She's a selfdescribed islamophobia. She said a lot of horrible things. And today she was with donald trump at the 9/11 memorial in new york city she is someone who has claimed 9/11 was an inside job, which obviously it was not. But does that someone that you want the republican candidate? they surrounding himself with like, i don't know who the person is that you're talking about, but i would say that 9/11 was a travesty. It's amazing to me that we aren't spending more time focusing on the quote root cause of what's happening with terrorism around the world? i mean, we've had a terrible situation going the middle east right now. It's because of iran. And we haven't administration vice president harris wouldn't even mention iran last night. But iran is the root cause of all the instability in the middle east. President trump dealt with that. He put maximum pressure on iran and then enabled him to move the embassy from tel aviv to jerusalem to implement the abraham accords. What we saw is peace breaking out in the middle east. Now that biden comes in, harris comes in, iran, has now flooded with cash and they're causing terrorism throughout the middle east. So my question is, does someone who has spread 9/11 conspiracies and claimed that islam is a cancer. And celebrated the deaths of migrants does, does she belong at the 911 morial are on the plane with donald trump that we have freedom of speech in america. And again, i don't know this person's positions, but i will tell you we need to get at the root cause of terrorism. And iran is the biggest sponsor of terror in the world. Harris and biden have allowed them to have funds like they never had before. Hundreds of billions of dollars in the trump administration where i served we shut off the funding to iran. I guess what happened? we saw peace and stability breakout, middle east, hamas hezbollah, the houthis were broke we weren't seeing what we see right now. The biden administration comes in, fails to enforce sanctions. And this is exactly what happens. Go back to afghanistan the instability that we're seeing in ukraine is a direct cause of that terrible decision made by harris. The biden administration didn't change the sanction shan a lot of those sanctions that trump put in place after he left the nucleus, just they just don't enforce them. That's the difference. We've got to leave it there, senator bill hagerty, thank you for taking us. Thank you for having me up next. There's a notable development after that endorsement that came moments after the debate ended last time night from taylor swift will tell you what impact it's having why do couples choose asleep number smart bet. Can he keep me warm when i'm cold wake know, i'm always hot. Sleep number. Does that can i make my side softer i make my side? farmers number does that your ideal firmness effort was covered all night. 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Com new tonight, more than 300,000 people have visited a key voter registration site, less than 24 hours after taylor swift herself link to it as she endorsed vice president harris the harris campaign has been trying to cash in on birch, inspired by the megastar's endorsement, they had these harriswalz friendship bracelets, which if you've been to a taylor swift concert, you know, they're the ones the fans make and trade during the shows. They were selling for all 20 bucks and the campaign's website until they sold out. My source tonight on this is karen finney, who was a senior advisor for hillary clinton's 2016 preresidential campaign an as you look at this endorsement and the trump campaign has been bracing for retailers have to do this for months now. And she was complaining about a. I. Generated images saying she she was supporting trump, which august she's not obviously, she's not he's just the bigger question of what does a celebrity endorsement mean? obviously, hillary clinton had a lot of them. She did not ultimately win the election. It didn't necessarily help with voters in wisconsin. But when you look at this and you look at taylor swift, what's your assessment of what the impact could be? so i think there's two things. Number one, it can draw attention for people who maybe aren't paying attention and to an election, they say, oh, beyonce or jayz did this or taylor swift said that maybe it gets the eyeballs on just paying attention to the election. But you do have seen backlash when celebrity say, who to vote for i did some research in 2017 and there were some younger voters who said, i don't need jc telling me you who to vote for. But what they do appreciate it. And i think taylor swift did it masterfully. She's an i did my research. This is the person that i think is right for me and my values. You should do your research, right? and so she made it open to, you, do what's right for you? i'm going to do what's right for me. But we broke, but let's vote that's the piece that consistently in research, people are open to having celebrities help remind them how important it is to vote. So it's more in how they announced their endorsement. Also, i was thinking she's on this mega tour, the arrows door i've been to two of the shows admittedly, she's still going on, but she's been two major swing state. She's into arizona as she's been to michigan. She's been depends on pena. She's been to these major states where obviously are going to potentially decide this election. Well, absolutely. If you think about it, encouraging people to vote and you might be in these major states that shouldn't be a partisan thing, that should just be an american thing. It's a civic duty to go out boat happens to overlap with some important states, but that shouldn't be seen as a partisan thing. Actually yeah. And so are there any drawbacks to a celebrity endorsement ever? well, obviously sometimes for the celebrity there can be, there can be, people might say, well, i'm not we're going to follow you because i don't agree with you on that policy issue, but generally, so much of how when we are fans of people, it part of it is their values, right? so it's not surprising that she would be supporting kamala harris if you've been following her and you know the issues she cares about yeah. And she's also very outspoken and connect with her fans? exactly. Karen finney, great to have you. Thank you so much. And thank you all so much for joining us tonighton

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