Because what youre seeing on your screen kristen, can you just explain why this is different from how nasa does it . Because when Nasa Conduct spacewalks, there are still astronauts inside who are in a pressurized environment, no. Yes. These are similar suits, but their new suits, i mean, these are just new Generation Ev Right . So nasa has been using these spacesuits, the same Space Suits that were used during the shuttle program. And now up at the international Space Station for about 40 years now, right so spacex said, we want to make new Space Suits that are cheaper to produce, faster, to produce. And so this is the first test of them, just Meat Terms of everyone involved in the mission being exposed to the vacuum. I same time. Yes. So whats different about that is the entire spacecraft is opening up. So even if youre not venturing out of the spacecraft, only two of the four Crew Members are actually going to go outside because the whole spacecraft is opening up, even the two Crew Members that stay in inside are still going to be exposed to the vacuum of space. So they all have to be wearing their spacesuits and thats a can see them there too. So this is a live look they of the spacecraft as again, they are preparing 2. 5 an hour or so, open up this store and have a couple of them walk outside. All right, kristen, thank you very much. Yeah. Youre gonna be back. Were going to talk a little bit of politics, but were not going to miss this incredibly historic moment all right let us turn now back to the fallout from the debate with perhaps with the first and perhaps only debate between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump. Now over both candidates trying to spin up momentum in the wake of the showdown in Philadelphia Donald Trump was fired by 81 Million people so lets be clear about that. And clearly he is having a very difficult time processing that. Shes been there for three andahalf years. Theyve had 3. 5 years to fix the Border Theyve had 3. 5 years to create jobs and all the things we talked about, why hasnt she done it there was a break in the bitter campaign on wednesday, even if it was just for a moment, both harris and trump were back in the same place, shaking hands again. This was at the 9 11 memorial in lower and Hatton Yesterday later in the day though, trump declaring victory in the Debate And Casting doubt on whether hed do another one were looking at it, but you know, when you when you dont really necessarily have to do it a second time. So well see when you dont win, its like a fighter when a fighter has a bad fight gets knocked out or loses the fight. The first thing he says is we want a rematch so we won the debate according to every poll, every single poll, i think that are we going to do a rematch . I just dont know that well think about what we learned yesterday that more than 67 Million people watched the debate. That was a 31 jump from the June Showdown between Trump And President biden, which drew about 51 Million viewers. That was a lot of people who saw harris continually bait trump into going off message starting today, the Vice President is trying to keep North Carolina in play with a stop there tomorrow. Shell be back in pennsylvania. As she urges her supporters not to get complacent we got some work to do because listen, i think that we think today was a good day and it was well, we have 56 days to go. Guys. Were still the underdogs in this race. Its tight all right. Joining us now to discuss david frum, Staff Writer at the atlantic as active air, cnn senior reporter, bakari sellers, cnn Political Commentator and former South Carolina State rep. And Mike Dubke, former trump White House communications director. Welcome to all of you. Thank you. Who all from being here isaac lets start with The Big Picture here. I was just talking to debbie dingell, who kind of laid it out of saying, yeah, i was thrilled as any democrat was by Kamala Harris is performing she was riding high. Then she said she got on the phone with somebody that she really trusts in michigan who brought her back down to earth. She identified immigration as an issue that she thinks is one that is keeping this race as close as it is. What are you hearing . Certainly immigration continues to be a big issue and one of the things that surprised the Harris Campaign was that donald Donald Trump didnt come back to it more and didnt beat her up more over it over the course of the debate but there is no one who is looking at any numbers, external numbers, internal numbers who doesnt think that this is a tight race. A lot of the people who are in and around the Harris Campaign right now, look at this and say yes, she had a good debate on tuesday night. Theyre obviously much happier with it than they were with the Joe Biden Debate in june but that if the election were held tomorrow or this coming tuesday, ive talked to a number of people who think that she would still lose and that this is for all of the enthusiasm there, that theyre that worried, is there . It doesnt mean that they think that she will lose in november. They think that there is a lot that needs to be done in between now and then to get there. Well, david frum, youve been a consistent critic of Donald Trump for many reasons that we have discussed on this show. Im curious what your diagnosis is in terms of why it is that the race is so close its for, for all these reasons i think two things are driving this rise for every democracy. We can see the incumbent governments have been damaged by the inflation of 21, 22 the Biden Harris, the conservative government in britain just lost a big Election Justin Trudeau in canada very different politics. His numbers are terrible everywhere you go. If you were there in 21 and 22 voters are mad at you because prices went up a lot and they went up faster than wages did. And we can offer all kinds of explanations. Well, the economy was coming back to life after covid, what did you expect . Theres not this. I didnt expect this. Thats issue one and then issue too. I think as isaac just said, the Immigration Issue i wrote in january of 21 when President Biden relaxed, many of the Trump Border controls, this was going to be the most important mistake of his presidency that it was just that numbers have surged during the early part of the trump presidency. They put some measures in place in the later part, then came covid and an american got a little holiday from this mass Border Crossing where people abuse the Asylum Laws and President Biden for his own political reasons, decided to undo a lot of those restraints. I got the influx that was negligible in january 21, and people dont like that either. So those are the two big things that override genuine strength of the american economy in 2024. And of course, the threat to american democratic institutions opposed by former President Trump bakari. What does harris need to be doing on these fronts as she heads were in the final days here there are a couple of things. First thing is both either can david are very correct about their analysis of where we are . I think the latter part of that analysis is all economic indicators suggest that were actually having a softer landing in with you compared to every other country that david mentioned. Were actually coming out of covid. Were coming out of this inflationary period. A lot sooner, a lot faster than a lot softer because of biden you asked a good question, what does she need to be doing i dont necessarily agree with isaac on this you such a Debbie Downer i dont know anybody in Kamala Harris land that hes saying oh my god, if the election was today, we blues right. Theres nobody, Theres Nobody that says that. I think that there are a lot of people who says this would be a very, very close race, but people are optimistic. I mean, people are very hopeful. People are saying everybody i talked to says, look, you know, because the difference is one of the differences between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump today Kamala Harris has to pass to the White House. Donald trump has won Donald Trump has to run an inside straight on november 5. He has to win georgia, North Carolina, and pennsylvania to be President Of The United States. And pennsylvania to be President Of The United States, he reversed that she she loses all her past without pennsylvania if she does it. Not at all. Not at all. Not at all. No, she doesnt if shes probably also lives in North Carolina that i know. So what happens is if she loses pennsylvania, she wins Georgia BoardNorth Carolina, and nevada, or arizona. Shes President Of The United States i mean, that is the math and so shortly to have a poll, it says that Mark Robinson is down 14 points. The gop gubernatorial candidate in North Carolina that gives you a great deal of hope. Shes going in greensboro today. Shes going to charlotte today. I mean, North Carolina is one of the states as in play in. So i just i do love your obsession with North Carolina. Its the bring it to the set every time every time you show up by, its fair the right session that theres a carolina obsession. Im just saying that, you know, its Gods Country were here for what is the opposite of Debbie Downer but you are right now, youre youre youre on this. Hi. Im high on life okay. Well, at least again, his shirt, his Button Today the second time this week you got me here hes a clade Mike Dubke, you are raising an eyebrow. Bakari was talking, i cant remember at which point i was making an eyebrow. There were multiple points and i got to believe isaac is threatened. That there is a least one person in the Harris Campaign that thinks theyre going to lose. Theres gotta be, if not, that somebody that theyre going to they think that right now what it things are still and bakari is right, not, not everybody feels that way. Theres a lot of enthusiasm cabinets, but just that there are people who look at this and say if it were today, that she is still behind, know, can i add a footnote to that . Because i think we need to be more specific about what mean by loose obviously within the rules of american politics, with the electoral college, this is a very tight race. I dont think Theres Anybody anywhere who thinks of Donald Trump will actually get more votes. Think Kamala Harris and everyone understands that were talking about, is that the rules of the game, the rules of the game, but its a weird game. Where we just had we all talk about this is if theres this Mass Movement behind Donald Trump, we need to start with our awareness that Donald Trump is at 46 candidate always has been, always will be. There was not a single day in his presidency when he had even 50 Approval Rating in any reputable poll. Not a damn day. Half the Country Biden even out. So what were always, and of course, those are the rules. They are written 17, 87, maybe theyre wise, maybe theyre stupid probably theyre stupid. But but the united states has this unique situation where 46 of the country is bidding to command the entire executive branch. Thats one of the reasons why this race is so so dangerous and upsetting because we know weve always known that theoretically that could happen. But in the trump years had really happened. And then the power was abused to run the most corrupt, an authoritarian administration in american history with 46 of the people. Thats, thats what were struggling with right now. Will a Minority Government in an abusive way . And that we say its close, we mean that there are states have contact where local majorities are going to be able to overwhelm the national majority. All right, Coming Up next here on cnn this morning, the fallout continues after Donald Trump falsely claims that migrants in ohio are eating in peoples pets theyre eating the dogs. The people that came in, theyre eating the cats in their room of springfield says, no, theres no truth in that how would the city and the state of ohio are trying to clear up this rumor plus longtime pollster Frank Luntz is here to discuss if the debate moved the needle for either candidate. And were watching live throughout the hour as for civilians are set to embark on a very risky spacewalk really been a gift having mom live with us. But as a nurse, my training told me she needed more help than i could provide so what connected with the place for mom, my senior Living Adviser. Understood are unique situation. She quickly recommended communities and set up tours, A Place For Mom helped us get to a decision and now mom is so well cared for talk to an expert senior Living Adviser today at no cost to your family your safety is the only thing that matters. We designed smarter ways to detect motion for fast Emergency Response we create Hd Cameras. 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