Guys like us you think theres good and bad right and wrong this justifiable the Penguin Streaming exclusively on max here we go. Again, another debate over another debate believe starts right now, Donald Trump said, no new face off, but thats not what Kamala Harris just said. The Vice President is in Battleground North carolina right now trying to pull ahead in this Neck And Neck wakes plus a split in the Republican Party spills into public view with people well close to trump worrying about his close connection with a controversial rightwing activist. Good, her influence, cost the former president votes and with just the who hours until kickoff, cnn investigates a huge role change me to keep Football Players say, all the way from the nfl to our youngest athletes on the field to the lead, im Pamela Brown in for jake tapper. And just moments ago, former President Trump on social waited with huge news on the prospect of another president ial debate saying, quote there will be no third debate. This announcement coming as he and Vice President Kamala Harris are back on the Campaign Trail Today after their contentious debate on tuesday, which many conservatives and some trump allies viewed as a win for him. Harris. Now right now, harris is speaking in Battleground North carolina, where she to wait in on a third debate, that possibility just moments ago and. I believe we, oh it to the voters to have another debate regardless of who won. Tuesdays debate and whether we get another one. This very close race is far from over anything can happen. And the next eight weeks before for Election Day. And of course, early voting is Kicking Off, right in fact, Democrats Today are being realistic or given themselves a Reality Check and practically every Conversation Public or private harris aides and harris herself are tempering expectations and continuing to insist she is the underdog to avoid getting burned by overconfidence our panel is here to discuss a lot happening today. Mark, lets kick it off with you with this news from trump that he wont Debate Harris again is this a mistake . No, i dont think so because i think regardless of what the polls and the overall numbers say about who won, who lost . When you look at the reuters panel, when you look at the quotes from the New York times, it shows that the undecided voters, which is the really the only voters that count right now. They didnt leave that Debate Thinking camila one or she didnt seal the deal they still like the trump policies. They want the lower costs. They want a secure border. She hasnt sold them yet. Thats on her. I dont think they think another debate is in his interests. I will note though in our Cnn Poll conducted after the debate, 69 of independents pulled, did think that harris won the debate. And so you have to ask the question, would another debate potentially be an opportunity for trump to try to sway some of those independency needs Donald Trump has debated more in president ial general elections than anyone in american history and he won the debate against Joe Biden in our poll by 35 points but the other six debates against Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden now, Kamala Harris, he lost by an average of 25 points. Okay. Hes a terrible debater the titanic didnt sell across the atlantic a second time. Okay. He needs to he should mute his microphone when hes speaking not just when mcconnell is making i mean, hes awful at this. Hes the most experienced end. He gets worse with everyone with a great exception of when President Biden just lost the debate, he just collapsed in trump won that. And thats to his credit. I didnt think he performed all that well, but it didnt matter. Because biden collapsed. But except for that one, hes been terrible. This of course, is not going to debate again, hes awful. Harris to say there should be i mean, she humiliated here on she emasculated him. She spanked his fanny for 90 minutes in front of millions of voters. Why would he want to do that . Again . We have of course, she wants to do it again because she scored an a plus. She was stellar. She had high expectations going in. Shes surpassed those expectations in dismantled him in. So of course, hes coming out to say, no way. I dont want that again, you said this in a lot of democrats have been you know, On A High after this debate, viewing her as the winner this morning on cnn, it was really interesting. Democratic Congresswoman Debbie Dingell praise the Debate Performance, but then she said there was this Phone Call that she had from one of her Township Supervisors and it really brought her back down to earth when they discussed how trumps message to marks point resonated with people in this critical Battleground State of michigan. Heres what she said he stayed on message on immigration and immigration is a powerful, it leads to insecurity, fear, both in economics, the job market, with all due respect, i think to see him and then pull that shoulder four points up was not accurate. There had been two others polls in michigan that ive trusted know the pollsters that both showed, that statistical dead heat. Its just closer than people realize what do you think is this a orality hundred percent right ive known debbie a long time, so im biased. Shes a Friend Of Mine Democrats who dont listen to Debbie Dingell are fools, knows michigan better than anybody happened in 20. She signed, sounded the warning 2016, people didnt listen to it by the way, its just good sense. You Cow Hairstyle says on the underdog, because she is you, you get this because youre from kentucky. Eddie sutton was legendary Basketball Coach at kentucky before that, he coached arkansas so im working for the governor of arkansas. Hes running for president. Its the last ten days of the race, and he had put it away. Frankly, he was running away with it at this point. But last week or two, not like this, a dead Heat Eddie called, i got the call. He said you go until bill, your two points up with two minutes to play, press, dont stall best advice ever. God, i went of course, toll clinton, i tell every politician that press dont stall. She is she is dead heat tide. She really is. And so shes got to press by those soldiers, mr. Trump, nobody should take their foot off the gas in this i want to actually bring more back in on this sound. The sound from frank luntz, whos of course a pollster republican pollster. Hes often a guest here on this show. He was speaking to Piers Morgan about his take on the debate, debate and what it means for trump. Heres what he said. I think that this will cost him yes, im trying to decide if i want to go on record and the answers yes. I think that he loses because of this Debate Performance i love frankly, i consider him a friend, but i think hes really off base on this one. I mean a couple of things. Number one, i dont think any of the polls show that to the polls even though they all show Neck And Neck in the wet last ten years, Donald Trump doesnt underperform polls have overperforms polls. And i think thats why they have the confidence of thinking that right now Camila Harris is underperforming where Joe Biden was. Shes underperforming where Hillary Clinton was in 2016, both nationally and in the Battleground States. This is still Donald Trumps race to lose. Yeah, i want to get back to you, but i want to go straight to charlotte, North Carolina where Camila Harris is speaking live right now. Lets listen think about that. And let us be very clear somebody who suggest we should terminate the Constitution Of The United States never again stand behind the seal one of the points that i mentioned on tuesday. So let the people who served under him at the White House who saw him every day, right . Is national Security Adviser his defense secretary, his chief of staff, and his Vice President. All have mourned oa, who worked with him every day in the White House that with them in the Oval Office have warned America Donald Trump is not fit to be president of the United States again, occupy our nations highest back it comes down to this we are here together because we love our country we love our country. And we understand the awesome awesome responsibility that comes with the greatest privilege on earth. The Privilege And Pride of being an american believe it is the highest form then of patriotism to fight for the eals of our country and to fight to realize the promise of america so North Carolina we have 54 days until Election Day and just 35 days just 35 days until early voting begins its not only the presidency thats on the Balloces Includin was my Donald Trump and wants a ban, a total ban on abortion in this thing, right . So the stakes in this election up and down the ballot, up and down the ballot but we know the power is with the people the power is with the people. And your voice is your vote. North carolina we know, heres the thing also. Were all, weve got. We are just we are loving, our campaign, arent we . We are know. But heres the thing hours will be a very tight race until The End okay its going to be a tight race until The End and we are the underdog understand that we are the underdog. There are powerful forces trying to convince people that their vote doesnt matter there are say all that to say weve got some Hard Work ahead of us but heres the thing i love about everybody here we love Hard Work. Heartbreak is good work we will win in november. We will win carolina. Today and then ask you, are you ready to make your voices heard promise of america well, there you heard america graham passion, Camila Harris, wrapped up the momentum from the debate on tuesday night, sticking with that message that she is the underdog and there are so a lot of Hard Work ahead. Nia malika, what was your takeaway and listen, she is the underdog. Shes a black woman. There hasnt even been a black woman elected governor ever in its countries over the idea that shes going to be the prison of the United States. She is certainly the underdog and has a lot to overcome. That is why the campaign is poised in the way that they are. Listen there in North Carolina, there in georgia, the sunbelt has opened up to Combo Harris in a way that it was shut shut off to buy in North Carolina. This is a state that obama was able to win in 2008. He lost it four years later georgia has many, many hbcus. Theres been a surge. We were just talking about this, a surge in interest in volunteers and registration are particularly among African American voters and young voters. So listen, shes got a real path. Shes got more paths and biden had but listen, as she said, is going to take a lot of Hard Work. Theres two polls in North Carolina this week, each show her three points ahead. Now, thats still margin of error. Its a state except for Barak Obama at my party has not carried in 25 years or 50 years. So its a very hard state for democrats we can be done and i just was Speech Writer that Pair Oration we just showed she has the audience chanting, yes. Yes, thats all positive is affirmative. You want that . And then she says at The End, when we fight, we win. This is very affirming and positive its a stark contrast with mr. Trump, which is americas terrible and were decline were bad. Reading dogs apparently. Currently, theres a lot of dogeating in ohio, which hot dogs i get, but i dont think anything beyond that, but yeah, i liked the way she close it. This is no different though than the convention. The debate, or what we just heard. There is still no answer. There is no. Im going to lower the Gas And Grocery prices. Im going to secure the border and theres. Also the middle a fundamental shes fundamentally not recognizing that she and Joe Biden are the ones who created these problems. So i loved the soaring rhetoric shes, shes will find speaker, but unlike a bill clinton, unlike a Barak Obama, who the voters blamed their predecessors for their economic malaise and they were rewarded for it. The people blame Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and they should. So its hard to say you get a Change Agent when youre the one who caused it in the first place, im just going to say, you can disagree with camo harrisons policy, but this idea that she has no policy just isnt true. She has an immigration policy. Its the policy that Donald Trump blocked in that he wants to put into law if Shes President xi has policies on small businesses, she has she has policies on housing. So this sort of idea that somehow government policies is that messaging getting through to the voter to those independents and movable voters that she needs to win the policy. No. Im sorry. Were 54 days from an election. I care about policy but what were calling harris has done is she combines policy with biography, Policy Plus Biography equals authenticity in vibes, right . I mean, right. Part but shes going for groceries and gas with wagner. Shes got plenty of Policy Groceries were cheaper, gas like what it was all right. What else stick around . 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This just minutes after he posted on Social Media that he is Blowing Ofanother debate. I want to bring in republican Senator Markwayne Mullin of oklahoma, senator. Thank you for coming on the show for the last debate brought and 67 Million viewers, is trump missing an opportunity here by saying no to another debate. I think we had an opportunity to do another debate On Fox, right . Hes did he do dont want to see an nda which kudos you guys, i thought cnn did a pretty good job. And then we had one of the abc and it wasnt i mean, the moderators there with lindsey and david, i didnt think they were anywhere close to being even. I mean, it was very onesided. You could tell. I think if she would agree to do one On Fox it may be a different story but theyre not willing and i do one On Fox. So i would suggest the same thing. Why would we go into a another left leaning Media Outlet