Other Day Or X or whatever were calling calling it but he said mckinsey phi, the strategy of iran and russia, they have entire strategies with workstreams. And this was one workstream amongst multiple. Now, whether those are successful or they land remains to be seen, but we should absolutely expect multiple other activities, both out of iran, russia, and even in china and beyond. Yeah, i mean, we saw part of this was we reported that they targeted one of trumps attorneys. Yes. It doesnt appear it was successful, but theyre targeting key people. Yeah, look, theyre going to go at those that erie, theyre either in the immediate orbit of the former president yeah, or those that are right outside of it that had the Access And Ability to reach in. And again, we should expect more of this, not just up to the election, but after it, chris krebs, thank you for that. A quick Programming Note here before we go, comedians, Roy Wood Junior and others are going to be on cnn saturday night, a new special. You are going to have to tune in to watch that. Thank you so much for joining us. The news continues right here on cnn news, trump says no more debates with harris as a new poll shows the majority of voters think harris won the Debate Or Campaign revealing for the first time the money what that meant for how much money she raised in the hours after that faceoff with Trump And Maga Mayhem Republic bookings on the attack, slamming a controversial far right activists who has attached herself to Trump Or Elle reeve. Know Laura Loomer knows, or she spoke to from today . Shes outfront and an outfront Special Report tonight, cnn with rare access to a prison full of Gang Members and El Salvador crackdown coming amid fewer illegal crossings at the Southern Border. Lets go outfront evening. Im erin burnett, outfront tonight. The Breaking News no more debates. Trump making it clear moments ago that he will not Face Off against Kamala Harris again, heres what he said just moments ago at a rally in arizona so because weve done two debates and because they were successful, there will be no third debate yet moments after the debate ended was a totally different story. Trump was open to another debate would you be inclined to say yes. It was a fair network . But now its a hard no out in the Rally Stage saying no trump is obsessed about that debate with harris tonight. At that rally in tucson and arizona, he spent 20 minutes actually a little bit more than 20 minutes going over every questionanswer from the debate, we litigating it and theres a reason for this obsession. The first Debate Poll is out, No Doubt hes seen it it finds 53 of voters, Say Harris came out on top. That 53 is notable in us politics. But what stands out the most is the 24 , only 24 say trump won. And when asked, who stumbled or didnt appear sharp, more than half, 52 said trump which may be because of remarks like this in springfield. Theyre eating the dogs, the people that came in, theyre eating the cats. Theyre eating theyre eating the pets of the people that live there and it is, at the debate numbers. Heres the reality. This appears to be more than just the debate, because now when you look among registered voters and the actual support who theyre Gonna Vote for an election day, 47 Support Harris to 42 for trump. That is a five point advantage. Yes, its tight. It comes down down to the Swing States, but Five Points in American Politics is a chasm and as for harris, she is doubling down on surprisingly on whether she wants to have another debate do nights ago, Donald Trump and i had our first debate it to the voters to have another Debate Election and what is at stake could not be more important well when it comes to what matters the most in politics being money, that was a big moneymaker for harris. Her campaign told Cnn Tonight that she raised 47 Million in the 24 hours following the debate, 47 Million in 24 hours. They say that includes donations from 600,000 individuals. Just to be clear, this is the second biggest one Day Haul for harrison. She actually entered the race in july. And now she wants to build on that momentum. She just held another rally in North Carolina. You see her there, even mckend is outfront at the Harris Rally in greensboro. And eva, youre learning more about Harris Strategy now when were starting to see how voters saw that poll starting to see how it facts in this moment in time, the national likely vote. What are you learning democrats believe that North Carolina is really conflate this cycle for a number of reasons. And that is why you see her here doing to rallies and investing here. They are encouraged by the momentum around early voting. We heard the Vice President addressed early voting tonight, 160,000 people in this state requesting early ballots. They believed that the republican candidate for governor there is especially week. And they think that he will drag down the entire ticket they also see more than a dozen or around a dozen rather history roughly black colleges and universities in this state. I was speaking to some young women from Bennett College here in greensboro. And there is a lot of Organizing Support in those spaces. And then of course, the issue of reproductive Rights Erin the Vice President , mentioned Healthcare Tonight up on that stage. They believed that issue is particularly resonant in and they can appeal to those undecided voters. Voters who maybe traditionally dont vote for democrats in this southern state, based on the strength of that particular were and so keep the strategy is competing here. Say if they dont win in pennsylvania, for instance, they can still capture North Carolina and other states and still get to that critical to 70 area. Alright, eva, thank you very much. At that Rally Site in North Carolina. Alright. Everyones with me here. David axelrod, trump now saying on the Rally Stage, there wont be another debate, okay, so and harris obviously wants there to be well, we understand where he clearly what people think. People think she won and he did not win. But who is hurt more between the two of them . If there is not another debate will obviously trump has decided that he would be hurt more if there was another debate and she has decided that she could advantage yourself. I think that was such a decisive outcome in that debate. And if i were in trumps team, i think im not sure i want to put them on that stage. Again, if youre harris his team, youre saying another event like that could be a real boost because were still a distance from the campaign. And another debate closer the campaign could be very advantageous right . Although sometimes its nice to just, you got to win chips. Yeah. But you know what . I dont really buy these polls. I mean, i think that this is a very close race. If you look at polling averages, shes probably got a point and a half maybe a two Point Lead nationally. But in these Battleground States, they are as tight as a tick and i just think that this thing ive gotten chastise before for saying this, theres no room for Irrational Exuberance here. People should be really pleased with that debate was a big step forward. But this is going to be a close race from start to finish so erin, let me ask you you know, you heard but Harris Today again calling trump to agree to another debate that he owes it to voters is what shes saying. David plouffe, a senior Campaign Adviser now for harris, called Trump Chicken Man today, right there trying to bait him into doing it. Do you think aaron, that this is a hard and fast know at this point or could he suddenly change his mind . The likelihood he changes his mind a few more times is pretty high, knowing Donald Trump and his history, if polls start to move and there seems to be an opportunity, if if they continue to goad him, his response very likely could change to yes, i want to have the debate and then go back to know when negotiations move or whatever for happen. But however, that shakes out the debate regardless of if Donald Trump does that or not, were in the homestretch now and as their criss crossing into all these Battleground States, what we saw come out of that debate right now, were seeing maybe marginal movement, but youve got to get into these Battleground States now and have these conversations with voters not only at rallies and at debates and on those big tv moment, but at the doors via Text Message on their emails because now is turnout time and they cant be wasting it arguing over debates. Its so lulu, let me ask you, you know, obviously theres this issue of how close this race is and its close, its also inherited its interest to say that its close. She needs to turn out right. And she needs to win by a real margin nationally in order to make sure she gets there into to 70 on the electoral college. Today. She said that shes the underdog when we play it sorry. We dont have it. What you said is okay. Alright. Well play it. Here we go. Ours. Will. Be a very tight race until The End. Okay. Its going to be a tight race until The End and we are the underdogs. Understand that we are the underdog and obviously lulu, anybody understands why shes saying that you dont want to say all we got this, right. But shes saying and emphasizing and emphasizing it, it would seem because when you do get and i hear what david just said, looking at the national average, right . But youve got a poll out today with a fivePoint Lead that doesnt look like an underdog it doesnt look like an underdog. And i think the reason shes doing it is because democrats have ptsd from 2016 when Hillary Clinton thought she had it in the bag when she didnt visit key Swing States when they werent really doing retail politics and the way that theyre trying to do right now. And they dont want to make that same mistake again, they dont want to underestimate made the opposition and the headwinds on the economy and other issues. And so they really are trying to push, push this message that every Vote Counts and theyre trying to gin up that enthusiasm and thats why youre seeing them going to these Swing States, but not just going to the areas that they classically go to, but going to rural areas, going to areas where theyre just trying to push up the margins because it is indeed bernarda election. So david, let me ask you about the money and i said, you know, Money Matters and it does. Right. But can you just having been in the center of this, put some meat on the bone, 47 Million 24 hours. Thats the second best haul for her these are incredible numbers. They add up to incredible numbers that adds up to a more than two times greater amount of money to spend than trump has. So what does that actually mean . Running a campaign right now . What does that mean when you can throw money around like that . Well, obviously you know the one people think of immediately is Television Advertising and thats going to matter, but it also helps Fuel Organization and the kind of i get out, the vote activities that are going to make the difference in this race. I think this is going to be half a 0. 1 way or another in the these key states, shes North Carolina today. My sense is pennsylvania is still a state. She has to win, but if she doesnt, she need its the makeup for it somewhere. And it is going to take a lot of resources, both in terms of media, but especially in terms of getting out the vote paying for the organizational activities you need to make. To make this come home i think that this is an advantage for her, but trump was outspent last time and he closed fast. And thats what they have to worry about. They have to worry about what happened in the last two elections where he closed fast. Erin, one thing that the democrats are doing is making a Big Push right now on the issue of age mental acuity the writing in that poll i just shared the post the Post Poll that where people said that trump lost that debate 52 of voters in that reuters ipsos poll said trump was not sharp, and that he said adding that he stumbled. Do you think aaron, that this is now an issue for him that the 20 Year Age Gap that theyre sort of turning this that worked on biden on it ted and pointing it at trump could be effective i dont necessarily think that that will be effective because people already have the baked in notion about Donald Trump, his name id, people, their belief in him where he stands, people have a really firm understanding of that. And with that comes his age. The only reason it would be a detriment or it could work in Kamalas Favor is if she somehow begins to pull away the mantle that she is the Change Candidate, that she is the one that will be the Change Vote in the election because right now even with Donald Trump being older, voters are saying and pulling that they believe he is the Change Candidate at that point, if she becomes the Change Candidate maybe you can start making the argument about age that shes as shes saying, the new generation of leadership. But at this point, the american people see him as the change. So i dont think that that necessarily is going to work for democrats as an argument right now. Yeah, i dont have to agree. I disagree. Yeah. Yeah. Ahead, lulu. Yeah, i. Disagree. I think republicans are now in the position that the democrats want when when they had ahead of the ticket that really couldnt prosecute the case and i think the real implications of this last debate is it for the first time you saw these two Candidates Sidebyside and one was able to very articulately argue the case for democrats. And really prosecute the case for democrats, which is something theyve been craving and Donald Trump simply unable to do it. And so i really think that people are now seeing a different Donald Trump. Donald trump is in Decline And Age only goes one way. You dont get sharper with age, unfortunately. And so i think this is something that republicans are going to have to come Face To face with. David. I know. I just think she did look like the Change Candidate on that stage. And i think age was part of it. He looked old and he looked he looked like Yesterdays News and i do think this is working in favor and i have to say, you can get all kinds of outcomes based on how you ask polling questions youve say, who represents changed from biden. Of course, shes not going to pull well, if you ask the question, who represents change, right . She she pulls better, so i wouldnt put too much credence on that one poll. All right. Well, i appreciate all three of you. Thank you very much. Lulu, aaron, david, and next, Trump Trolling Taylor swift with his own merchandise inspired by the Singers World Tour the youngest State Party Leader, the head of the North Carolina democrats Taylor Swift. Wheres her Friendship Bracelet is outfrontplus, she is a farright conspiracy theorist, trading blows with report publicans tonight, including Marjorie Taylor Greene. But she has been incredibly close to trump in recent days. Who is Laura Loomer . How much influence does she have over trump . 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