Of his nose again. And the lead with Jake Tapper starts now well, Donald Trump took questions, but his answers only raised more the lead starts right now from his close ties twice farright firebrand, do his repeated and racist debunk Conspiracy Theories about migrants. Donald trump was pressed on it all, but his responses likely Wont Silence his critics. Last a stunner from and the pope, weighing in on the president ial election, sharing his opinion on both Trump And Harris. Will this take will this change any minds . And cnns rare Interview Today with supreme Court Justice Ketanji brown jackson. What she says, the High Court is really concerned about Behind The Scenes the lead. Im Pamela Brown in for Jake Tapper, 53 days until the 2024 president ial election and the Campaign Trail Today is lively. Former president Donald Trump, just about an hour ago wrapping up a Q A with reporters in california. And he continued to reference haitian migrants in springfield, ohio vowing. In a second term to enact large deportation starting in that town. A reminder for you. They are there legally. He claimed that 94 of his republican allies said he won the debate. A Number One can only assume was made up right on the spot given many trump allies, including Senator Lindsey Graham and robert f. Kennedy, have gone on record saying trumps performance left something to be desired and cnns holmes also asked the former president about the controversy surrounding Farright Activist Laura loomer, who often travels with trump and has made racist posts that have been disavowed this week by trump allies, including Congresswoman Marjorie to touri, Taylor Greene would you say to your republican colleagues, are your allies who are concerned about your close relationship with Laura Loomer . Know what they would say. Laura has been a just like a lot of people are supporters and she has been a supporter of mine she, speaks very positively of the campaign im not sure why you asked that question, but laura is a supporter i laura. Laura has to say what she want. Your allies are for concern. Well, i dont know. I mean, look, I Cant tell laura what to do cnns Kristen Holmes in californias enter sydney said, im not sure why you asked wasnt a surprise to him, kristen yeah. Pam, we know that its just the republican allies that weve heard on the record saying publicly that they are concerned about Laura Loomer, like marjorie Taylor Greene, like lindsey graham, but we also know that there have been private Phone Calls from republican allies to Donald Trump, to Donald Trumps heads of the campaign expressing concern that one shes traveling with Donald Trump. We saw that people get off the plane with him at the debate. It was a very close Knit Group of advisers. His top advisers, his campaign managers, and the people who had helped him with the debate. And Laura Loomer, this is a plane and this was not an answer that really got to the heart of why it is that shes traveling with him or what he who would respond to people who have called her remarks recently, racist. And he was asked specifically if you would disavow after i spoke to him. If you disavow some of her comments and he said he didnt know what the comments were, but he take a look at them again. We have spoken to allies who have talked to him, who have talked to heads of the campaign about her recent comments. Its not just recent, but over the last several years and told him theyre concerns. So this that this is all new to him seems pretty farfetched. All right. Kristen holmes, thanks so much. The panel is here to discuss. Lets start with erinperrine, aaron, what movable voter is trump winning by having people like Laura Loomer around him and do you think he really doesnt know the kinds of things she said about 9 11 and other there is not a persuadable voter that is going to see Laura Loomer coming around, Donald Trump and think that thats going to persuade them to now break for Donald Trump. Its not as much about winning voters is it is having people around him that, that he likes, that he wants stay here from thats why shes around him. I dont think that thats a good choice. I think that peddling and racist tropes and in islamophobia and in the hateful rhetoric that she has launched, not only at countless people across the country, but people like myself and my colleagues and my friends because we worked for somebody else in the primary. Theres no room for that and the republican party, we used to be able to be disagreeable and disagree at the same time, we could disagree without being disagreeable. We didnt have to make a personal and be this overly heated rhetoric. It doesnt help the campaign and im a little surprised that susie and chris are putting around the plane as much as they are to travel with the president. She was on the plane the day of his debate and some of his allies were concerned that perhaps he didnt do as well in the debate, his Aide Hope because she was in his ear, what do you say . Well, on this is the challenge that you have won and its such a big personality. And for so long the management of that personality has really been to cater to what Donald Trump wants and his wishes, rather than a set of logic or systems that help you execute a plan rather than just concepts of a plan. Laura loomer, i, mean, shes a provocateur and those exists on both sides of the aisle, to be this desire for trump to get the attention of somebody who is provocative and has a large online following, rather than him this race. And we know that trump doesnt like to disk people who are really nice to him and loyal to him as Laura Loomer has been. And conversely, jeff does Trump Risk alienating part of his base by not embracing people like loomer, as you pointed out, somebody who has a large following look, theres embracing and then theres also inviting someone on your plane on 911. I mean, its different. He could still be sort of friendly to Laura Loomer without sort of alienating her, without inviting him on his plane. I mean, she has been in the inner circle, like only a handful of people have. So i think its not about alienating the base. I mean, were not i dont think any of his allies are staffer suggesting he should go out and pick a fight with her. Trascher, but its its just the unusual timing and theres obviously something about her that he enjoys spending time with and that is something on him, but aaron was saying. Im really surprised. I think its a sign of Something Else that really weve not seen yet in this campaign. This has been a very disciplined for Donald Trump campaign. A much more professionally run campaign than his other two previous ones because of a Chris Lacivita and susie wiles. And this to me that hes calling his own shots on a lot of things. Yeah. Its interesting when you point that out, we were just looking at the ads from the Trump Campaign and theyve had more emphasis on the economy immigration and crime. And then you can draw us out with what trump has been pushing this absurd like continually about haitian migrants in springfield, ohio cannot be pets and eating them today, he cut off a reporter who tried to ask about two straight days of threats in springfield at schools and city buildings. Listen the real threat is whats happening at our border because you have thousands of people being killed by illegal migrants coming in. And also dying. You have women dying they come up so theres no evidence to support his claims about springfield, but help us better understand erin this cynical strategy, frankly, to appeal to peoples voters fears its not necessarily the cynical strategy as much as it is that he, when people are asking him those questions, hes always going to answer it like that. He just cant take it in pivot and go back to where the message should be, which is a professional political communicators. What we train each of our candidates to do, which one, you can, you can always answer the question you wish its wish was asked, which sometimes gets you the follow up and pushed or you pivot if you get asked about springfield, then you pivot to the fact that the Southern Border of the United States has been overrun under bidenharris and the fact that we have seen influxes into communities across the United States were resources are now so limited because of the failure of the Biden Harris Administration on it . Immigration, lets talk about that. Take the Topic And Pivot to the strong point. Dont play into the question anymore about Cats And Dogs and ohio talk about what matters to The American people because they are telling you very clearly, its the Immigration Issue at the Southern Border say cynical strategy. I just want to clarify. Its not about how he answered that question in particular, just about overall continuing to bring this up up this lie up. Yes, these haitian migrants, it gets to i mean, the fear is a key element of the strategy. And lets be clear, there are other elements of fear in campaigns. The fear of women bleeding out because they needed a medical procedure called an abortion. So that the democrats are using that as well. But trump returns to that without tying it to a policy he finds something in his limited ecosystem pops it up to a point where it doesnt matter to him if its dangerous, he could pivot, but he will still doubled down on the thing that is causing him problems. But its also creating a broader Security Challenge in the United States i want to talk about Vice President harris to me, she was in a Pennsylvania Again today. Shes made multiple stops there and i just just to take a step back. It is a reminder of how razor thin this races in these Swing States with these movable voters. And theres not that many of them without a doubt, i mean, shes spent a part of seven of the last eight days in pennsylvania. That really tells you all you need to know. But look, heres why pennsylvania is. We know, is the biggest Swing State in terms of electoral votes, 19 electoral votes. But i think more interestingly, is where she is shes in Trump Country three shes in a county that i was a Plus 374 the former president and plus a 14, i believe. But what shes trying to do is bring down his margins here. Well see the degree to which shes able to do that. But i think where shes going, as interesting. Look, i mean, pennsylvania is absolutely essential if she wins and keeps the Blue Wall together and winds that blue. In nebraska, she wins the presidency. If she doesnt win pennsylvania, then she has a harder route. Obviously, she has to win either North Carolina plus another today so pennsylvania is still not all the marbles, but most of the marbles, if thats why shes there again, but interesting, that shes in a republican part of pennsylvania. Also the idea that you can be republican and Trump Supporter Susie asm is a key part in this election, which democrats were lacking on the front end and now it seems to have picked up in their favor. Your ultimately fighting on Election Day to get people off their sofas and willing potentially to go out and bad weather other to vote for you. So if shes able to create enough doubt in Trump Country to suppress the numbers there. Those margins matter. The other thing she did in the debate that i thought was very key was taking a foreign Policy Issue and making it very directly applicable to americans right now its connected ukraine, trumps support for putin to what next, if trumps plan to negotiate or gift parts of ukraine, poland would be next. There are Tens Upon Thousands Of Polish Americans in philadelphia, in parts of pencil well, vga in wisconsin, these are key constituencies that shes figured out how to connect with on an issue. Very key to them. What do you say erin . I think that that was probably one of the missed opportunities by trump there, especially on the geopolitical front, because when it comes to the war in ukraine, whos very clear that Donald Trump put on very aggressive sanctions against russia, against the nord stream two pipeline. And when Biden Capitulated to putina on the pipeline, we saw that they were able to circumvent ukraine and said Natural Gas to germany. So they didnt need him anymore. They could get like there is a winning geopolitical argument there for stopped russia from invading ukraine, that didnt happen, that did not happen under Donald Trump. It did under Joe Biden, he missed the what you need to make that argument right there. All right. Everyone stick around more to discuss today and extremely rare, sit down with one of the nations most important Decisionmakers Cnn goes oneonone with Justice Ketanji brown jackson. 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If i ran with an honest Vote Counter in california, i would win california california today, again, pushing the lie that the countrys elections arent fair to him a reminder, he lost the 2020 election despite his claims reaction now from republican lawler and democratic congressman Jared Moskowitz. Great to see you both you both signed this letter along with 30 other House Members promising to make a peaceful transfer of power happen after this year election, quote after this election, america will have the rule of the the Commonsense Majority stands up so i want to start with there. I want to get to the Fact Gentleman that there are still concerns what could happen after the election. I want to start with you Congressman Lawyer and get your reaction to what Gop Senator Markwayne mullin told me yesterday on this show back in 2021, he was in the house, may vote against certifying the Election Results. And i asked him about that yesterday. Heres what he said. If trump loses in every state certifies as the results of their election, will you accept a peaceful transfer of power . You know, its hard to say what youre gonna do, what youre not, it doesnt matter if the republicans win or the democrats win both parties are probably going to cry, Cry Foul what is your reaction to that . And would you encourage your fellow republican across the aisle and others to sign onto this letter . Look, obviously this is a letter that i was proud to sign on to and support the peaceful transfer of power is paramount to our government. Its what sets the United States apart from many globe. And i think for me i leave it up to the voters. The voters will decide the outcome of this election there is so much at stake from the Affordability Crisis plaguing our country our Southern Border, to the international dealing with. But ultimately its a decision that the voters this will make. And its our job as members of congress to accept that and to certify the results of the election. So i absolutely commit to doing that. I think what happened on January 6, 2021 was wrong. It never should have happened Joe Biden won the election. The election shou