World how good I am hello agaIn and welcome. He Its tIme to break down the bIg storIes wIth some smart people. Today, were askIng as Kamala HarrIs pushes for another Debate And Donald trump says, no, Is he smart to stay away from a second Facetoface Showdown . Ben poIson pIll, republIcans pushIng to fund the government wIth one major addItIon that democrats say Is a solutIon In search of a problem and no soup for you the bIg change comIng to a 155yearold can classIc The Panel Is here and ready to go so sIt back, relax, and lets talk about votIng Is offIcIally underway In the electIon wIth the fIrst Absentee Ballots already maIled out and alabama and early votIng Is set to begIn In several other states In the next few days. Now, were theIr bIg debate behInd them. Both candIdates are In the next phase of the campaIgn lookIng for new ways Kamala HarrIs, mockIng Donald Trumps lack of specIfIcs on replacIng obamacare as she looks to buIld on her BaIt Momentum at 12 or 13yearold survIvor of Incest are beIng forced to carry a pregnancy to term they dont want that. SeIzIng on key exchanges and turnIng them Into CampaIgn Ads were a natIon thats In serIous declIne, or she and trump hIp, the key battleground states, we had a monumental vIctory over comrade Kamala HarrIs the presIdent the latest poll shows harrIs as the debates clear wInner, but lIttle movement In the Horse Race sInce last months democratIc conventIon. Look at thIs graph. Weve never seen the enthusIasm harrIs recognIzIng theres more work to do, fallIng for another faceoff. I belIeve we owe It to the voters to have another debate, but trump, for now, unwIllIng to gIve harrIs another platform to reach mIllIons of voters because weve done two debates and because they were successful, there wIll be no thIrd debate. Here wIth me today. ReIhan salam, presIdent of the Manhattan InstItute and NatIonal RevIew, ContrIbutIng EdItor New York TImes journalIst and the IntervIew Podcast Host Lulu GarcIa Navarro jIm geraghty, contrIbutIng wrIter at the WashIngton Post and NatIonal RevIew senIor polItIcal correspondent and nIa malIka henderson, polItIcs and PolIcy ColumnIst at bloomberg. Welcome back everyone here. JIm, where does thIs race stand now postdebate well, anyway, you slIce It. HarrIs went out, dId exactly what she wanted to do the natIonal polls show a nIce lIttle pop, probably around four or fIve Percentage PoInt lead what would worry me If I were on her campaIgn Is that mIchIgans had a couple of polls In the last couple of days. Trump by one, tIe her by one. The SwIng States to look pretty close and you very rarely can fInd a poll that has one candIdate or the other outsIde of the margIn of error the Walz PIck seemed to be popular. Everybody raved about the democratIc conventIon. She dId great all thIs stuff Is goIng rIght for her, but youre not seeIng It generate a sIgnIfIcant lead In the SwIng States. And so I thInk therell be sweatIng all the way to ElectIon NIght there are some debates that shIft the momentum of a campaIgn, lIke the fIrst kennedy NIxon Debate 1960. And some that dont lIke all three, clInton, trump debates ba In 2016, where do you thInk those race stands rIght now, postdebate. Yeah. LIsten, I thInk Its a dead heat Its goIng to come down to these sIx states. Shes got to fIgure out what the easIest path to vIctory Is she has an more paths, then Job BIden dId, but Its stIll IncredIbly tIght. Its a feat. What explaIn that to me . If accordIng to those cnn Instant poll, she won 63 to 37 and all the other polls were roughly the same. Why hasnt moved the needle I dont thInk debates typIcally move the needle, rIght . You mentIoned the kennedy NIxon Debate that obvIously dId the the debate We Saw between bIden and trump, obvIously up Into thIs entIre race. But thIs Is the way It usually works wIth debates. They sort of lock In whats already In place and what was already In place was a very close race. And theyre goIng to try over these next. What do we have seven weeks eIght weeks or so . Ive been waItIng to go In places lIke for Instance, Kamala HarrIs Is In some of these rural places In GeorgIa And PennsylvanIa to see If she can eat Into some of the margIns among trump voters In those states, lulu, If thIs race Is stIll up for grabs, what do trump and harrIs each need to do . In the next seven plus weeks tIll ElectIon Day. Well, I thInk we need to see less of trump because the more people see trump, the less they seem to lIke hIm, the more IncendIary thIngs he says. And the more people are focused on hIs bIggest lIabIlIty now, whIch Is hIs age. What has happened as the gop and the democrats have kInd of flIp before they, the democrats have the problem wIth theIr candIdate at the top of the tIcket beIng unable to prosecute the case. And now Its the gop that has a problem wIth theIr candIdate beIng unable to prosecute the case. He should go to the basement lIke bIden and I thInk we need to be seeIng a lIttle bIt less of hIm. If Indeed they really, because because dont yet when people sort of had the hazy happy memory of trump and not the chaotIc trump. The trump that says thIngs that have no basIs In realIty, talkIng about dogs that people eatIng dogs rather, people seem to lIke that. And what. About harrIs . So what house needs to do . I thInk Is people need to see hIm more and not an unscrIpted way as she needs to be doIng more press conferences, she needs to just have a more casual InteractIon wIth a wIder varIety of people. Is oprah count, and then I mean, oprah counsel, theyre tryIng to create events thats what theyre goIng to be doIng now. Thats the bIg tactIc. HavIng oprah tryIng to see If there are bIg splashy frIends wIth BIanna Se and others are goIng to pIck up on because cnn Is reportIng that the HarrIs CampaIgn Is more focused on creatIng what they call moments. Then rollIng out a detaIled polIcy she has as mentIoned, an onlIne conversatIon wIth oprah next week, and they dream of a CampaIgn Concert wIth taylor swIft reIhan, fIrst of all do you thInk thats what harrIs needs to do more moments, less polIcy. And what about trump I do thInk that harrIs Is beIng IncredIbly dIscIplIned and careful. She Is followIng a scrIpt. Her Ad CampaIgns and what have you these are doIng exactly what democratIc polItIcal experts are advIsed thInk her to do. BIden was a loose cannon. Trump Is very much a loose cannon, but she has been stIckIng to the scrIpt. Do thInk that hIs grIp though, a lot of people I hear you say, I want to know more specIfIcs of what shes goIng to do for the economy, what shes goIng to do on ImmIgratIon. But the problem Is that her agenda Is to the left of most of the electorate. And I thInk gettIng more specIfIc about that could run present a rIsk. It would be smarter for to try to make a more explIcIt and clear break wIth the bIden presIdency. But shes very conspIcuously not done that In a varIety of Ways Trump In contrast, look durIng the debate Kamala HarrIs spent 70 of her tIme attackIng Trump Trump spent less than 30 of hIs tIme attackIng HarrIs HarrIs Is actIng lIke an underdog. Trump Is not actIng lIke an underdog. And what trump needs to do Is zeroIn, not on 200 messages, not on every last ThIng Someone says and then counter counterpunchIng, he needs to focus on hIs ScrIpt And Attack the Incumbent admInIstratIon and remInd people that he Is not the Incumbent who Is responsIble for a very foul mood of the amerIcan publIc rIght now. Shes an offIce and then there Is the questIon of another debate and at least thIs Week Trump was makIng a clear. Hes not Interested when a PrIze FIghter loses the fIght, youve seen a lot of fIghts, rIght . The fIrst words out of that fIghters about Is I want to rematch. I want to rematch. And thats what she saId. MIa Is trump smart to say no more debate. Yes, absolutely. Because he was terrIble. I mean, she emasculated hIm. She had them on the ropes for 90 mInutes. I mean, some of It was attacked, some of whom was just trIggerIng hIm wIth you know, sayIng that hIs crowd sIzes werent so bIg and that people were leavIng lean In the mIddle of the rallIes. So no, I thInk he Is smart to stay away from thIs because he doesnt want a really good moment for harrIs In the closIng weeks of thIs campaIgn In the way that shes had thIs week wIth thIs really, really stellar Debate Performance do you agree that trump should stay away from another debate and pardon, know, to paraphrase ghostbusters. If you have the opportunIty to speak before Its 60 MIllIon televIsIon vIewers, probably the other 7 MIllIon on streamIng. You say yes, you take every opportunIty you have to get your message out. You try preparIng next tIme, you try havIng two or three bullet poInts. You want to put for each one of them can prepare. He Is Incapable well, at the moment because of hIs age to actually prosecute the case. And so I thInk Its a terrIble Idea for hIm to do around the Basement CampaIgn partIcularly what your Neck And Neck Isnt goIng to do any good I guess the Idea Is If people are goIng to forget the traIts about trump, that they dont lIke between now and ElectIon Day the only way to go out there as to go out, make the argument no no. I wasnt but let me just let me ask you thIs. What do you thInk of the chances hes sayIng . No, no more debates. What do you thInk of the debates he changes hIs mInd and sometIme In october ends up sharIng a stage. We all know every trump to say mIssIon Is wrItten on an Actress Catch and at any gIven moment It can be shaken very vIgorously and you ended up wIth a dIfferent one. So If you know, my guess Is If the advIce Is looked, Im say, look, you dId not do yourself any good. You can go out there If you bother to remember three or four poInts In every topIc, you can actually move the ball In the rIght dIrectIon. They should do It. He would I thInk I thInk he walks around belIevIng hIlary Is goIng to wIn by a landslIde and he doesnt have to do anythIng else. HIllary clInton domInated her fIrst debate wIth Donald Trump In 2016. ThIs was a pretty solId strong performance by kamalaharrIs. It was not better than HIllary ClInton performance In that fIrst debate. And then Donald Trump fared better In the second and thIrd debates. I thInk that trump should gIve It another shot that day years ago though, eIght years ago, he saId very dIfferent. Hes a dIfferent candIdate thats what he aInt lIsman to any of us over on capItol hIll. Its The Same Old Story the governments runnIng out of money. Congress has FIghtIng Over how to fund It. But thIs tIme a new twIst that could have you dIggIng for your BIrth CertIfIcate then polIce versus player. The TraffIc Stop wIth a Football Superstar that got us debatIng the lImIts of second guessIng, calm and lIghter saddle up. Were dIscussIng beyonce Is bIg snow and whats really behInd It kIm, you have thoughts about why home straIght danger In changIng In changIng wIfe. Im not changed Sexual OrIentatIon of not changIng the polItIcal party. Were goIng to go to the house wIth what we got here. Okay. Car saturday, October 5th On Cnn okay. Everyone our mIssIon Is to provIde complete balanced nutrItIon. Or strengthened energy ensure wIth 27 vItamIns and mInerals nutrIents for Immune health, and ensure complete wIth 30 grams of proteIn when It comes to amgen lIfe, changIng medIcal breakthroughs every second counts. But wIthout Investment, those breakthroughs are often pause cItIes seamlessly connected, BankIng Markets and servIces busInesses delIver global fInancIal solutIons so our clIent can keep InvestIng In InnovatIons for patIents around the world wIthout pause for the love of movIng our clIents forward for the love of progress legro, they wont stop me. 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Your help us contInue the lIfesavIng In research and treatment. These kIds need now. And In the future as you makes me felt hungry, layIng not In lIke phIl on now does strange nIght am angry at when your kId Is hurtIng and theres nothIng you can do about It thats the worst feelIng In the world. One In fIve chIldren dIagnosed wIth cancer In the u. S. WIll not survIve those that donate to st. Jude I hope that you contInue to gIve the afternoon so much for me but wIth your DebIt Or CredIt card now and well send you thIs st. Jude tshIrt that you can proudly wear. HIs dance. I want louIs ylab, eIther the me. He Is one of the LIttle GIrl to surpass lets cure ChIldhood Cancer together. Please donate. Now Tv ProvIder, let me choose what I pay for my subscrIptIon when I walked and have hundreds of free channels. Lets If choosIng customIzed youre well watch her free slIng. Let you do that okay. Ready to ask them one second. I got to fInIsh my laundry Its lIke one second. I use rInse wash, rInse to the company that wIll pIck up Wash Fold and OlIvIer Laundry Dry CleanIng up that testImony. I do not trust other people wIth my laundry rInse guarantees or satIsfactIon. Ive been usIng It for months now wIth no Issues okay. Lets watch thIs waIt, Im gonna do my laundry. Better, hurry gun. Ill Schedule SIgnup, forensIc rInse. Com to get 20 off your fIrst order In Pete Muntean at reagan natIonal aIrport. ThIs Is Cnn Youve heard thIs before congress has once agaIn strugglIng to keep the government open. Speaker MIke Johnson, house tIll September 30 to pass a FundIng BIll and send It to the senate or the government wIll run out of money but thIs tIme the fIght on the House Isnt just over money, but also voter regIstratIon. Gop leaders want to sIx Month FundIng Deal lInked to the Save Act, whIch would requIre proof. Youre a cItIzen to regIster to vote In federal electIons I want any member of congress In eIther party to explaIn to the amerIcan people why we should not ensure that only us cItIzens are votIng In us electIons . But some republIcans rejected johnsons plan. So thIs week he was forced to cancel a scheduled vote. Democrats say theyll only support a clean FundIng Deal wIthout the proof of cItIzenshIp requIrement. Its Important to make clear that the constItutIon already requIres cItIzenshIp In order to be able to partIcIpate In our electIons. Thats federal law. Well get to the CItIzenshIp Issue In a mInute. FIrst, the polItIcs of thIs. Were just over seven weeks from an electIon. JIm. If Speaker Johnson Cant get the house to pass somethIng to fund the government by September 30, who would a Government Shutdown hurt more republIcans or democrats or republIcans . They always does damage to both partIes, but almost every tIme republIcans get the short end of the stIck every member of the house whos not retIrIng Is up for reelectIon. Do you thInk they want to spend the fall In washIngton Instead of beIng back In theIr dIstrIcts, goIng out and campaIgnIng nonstop, Its goIng to be tIresome a rerun, republIcans never do thIs to my fear Is that someone wIll put It In Trumps Head Laura loomer somebody. And the Idea that thIs Is how you wIn, or thIs Is how you set up the excuse for If you lose of oh, well, we dIdnt have the proof of cItIzenshIp requIrement. Thats why thats why all the haItIan dogs and cats regIstered to vote and they they ended up votIng well, I want to brIng up the aforementIoned former presIdent. Not only our house republIcans on the lIne so Is Donald Trump, who says If there Is no measure barrIng noncItIzens from votIng, the gop should shut the government down nIa, WhIch Party has more to lose here . Lets and I thInk Its republIcans very are obvIously some segment of them obsessed wIth thIs Idea thats really ConspIracy Theory that there, all of these Illegal ImmIgrants as they would call them undocumented folks who are floodIng to the polls In favorIng democrats. That Is not happenIng. Theres no evIdence of that. But thIs Is obvIously a play If youre MIke Johnson for thIs sort of Trump Stamp of approval, It wIll make republIcans look terrIble If In the wanIng days of thIs electIon they are In WashIngton FIghtIng over whether or not they should keep the government and the government are at least partIally shut down yeah, I mean, I mean, thIs thIs would not be a good thIng. It would make them look lIke the party that Is dysfunctIonal rather than the party who should be put In charge of the government. AlrIght, well, lets get to those Issue that It seems to be so Important to republIcans and so Important to Donald Trump. Lulu should voters have to show proof that theIr us cItIzens . So lets talk about whats actually In the Save Act they are puttIng thIs here two months before a federal electIon and sayIng, were goIng to pass thIs law. And rIght before thIs electIon, we are goIng to change the way that thIngs are done really they put thIs very hIgh bar for people to go and regIster to vote to eIther get a BIrth CertIfIcate or to show theIr socIal securIty card. Lets say they have lost theIr BIrth CertIfIcate lIke I have. You now have to go and knock on the door of the Records Department to waIt and come and get It. I mean, If you want to roll thIs out thIs has been somethIng that, you republIcans have been dreamIng about forever do It wIth some tIme, say, lets do thIs for the next electIon. The fact that theyre doIng thIs two months out of the electIon and attachIng It to thIs. Its clearly a poIson pIll. ThIs Isnt about securIng our electIons. Its about actually tryIng to gum up the works and beIng used as votes and suppress votes. And Its beIng used as a negotIatIng tactIc. In the last 20 years, the conservatIve HerItage FoundatIon found on lIke 85 cases InvolvIng allegatIons of noncItIzens votIng In federal electIons. At fIve cases among hundreds of mIllIons of votes cast reIhan Is thIs push for the Save Act a solutIon In search of a problem well, Its Important to ground thIs In publIc opInIon. How to voters actually feel about It. And If you look at the survey data thIs year, theres a survey from the Pew Research Center whIch held that 81 of amerIcans support Voter Id requIrements. That Includes a pretty navIent majorIty of democrats that reflects a majorIty of voters of all races and ethnIcItIes. So there Is a broad consensus that some kInd of guardraIls should be In place. ThIs Is somethIng we see In every