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CNN Fareed Zakaria GPS September 16, 2024

It together. Thats what he was like did for me her i Got News For You, catch the premier again . I didnt nine on cnn this is gps, the global public square. Welcome to all of you in the United States and around The World. Im Fareed Zakaria coming to you from kyiv, the capital of Ukraine Program ill bring you an exclusive interview with president Volodymyr Zelenskyy. I think this war changed all of us. Ill ask him about Ukraines Incursion into russia. I struggled to defend its own ask whether Peace Negotiations are in the office and what he will tell President Biden when he visits the u. S. This mug ukrainian who has been tirelessly defending of vital stronghold against russia tell us about the incredible difficult fight be faces we will win we will not exist finally past two years, weve introduced you to young ukrainians bearing their wisdom about the horrors of war. Its really hard to leave with a fault that your father can die now tragedy has struck for one of them were bring you bashi storage and more on this Special Edition of gps first heres my take coming to kyiv from the United States is bracing experience the one ukraine has become a familiar part of the political debate in America Democrats promised to stand with ukraine from declares he could end the war in a day. I get it, but it all has an air of abstraction, an ongoing conversation that could keep going but in ukraine, the mood Fields Role tense, and urgent this is a different city than the one i visited about this time in 2022. And 2023. The situation in ukraine is critical. The next few months might well determine the outcome of this War Kyiv feels less safe coming here for the annual Yalta European Strategy conference. Even during the war, ive always found it surprisingly normal no longer. The number of russian aerial attacks have gone up substantially. Few missiles get through. But the psychological effect is intense the night before i arrived dozens of airraid sirens pierced the night and you could hear the booms. Mostly not of missiles, but antimissile batteries more wearing on the population than the threat of missiles is the reality of power outages. Russia has been attacking Ukraines Energy Infrastructure with brutal persistence and alas considerable success they have used the iranian developed Shahid Drones and have received a recent shipments of iranian ballistic missiles, which may well be unleashed on ukraines power grid. In the next Weeks Power outages, even in kyiv are a regular feature of life often lasting four hours sources in Ukraines Government telling me that these blackouts have made Work And Life so difficult that it has caused a fresh exodus of people out of the country. I dont want to exaggerate or paint to gloomier picture. Kyiv remains a bustling, lively, beautiful city the streets and parks are filled with people going to work, shopping, or just walking handinhand but everywhere there are reminders of the worst current phase you see large billboards urging ukrainians to sign up for the armed forces. There is lots of Construction Activity rebuilding what the russians have destroyed and there are captured russian tanks, proudly displayed in st. Michaels square just over a month ago, ukrainian forces surprise The World by moving into Russia And Capturing hundreds of square miles of its Kursk Region. It was a huge Morale Boost for the ukrainians soldiers and civilians who desperately needed it but now a realization has set in that it has not caused much of a change in the basic dynamics of the war in fact, many now question whether it was a mistake by diverting some of ukraines best troops to the mission. Did the government leave exposed key areas of the 750 mile Front Line where russia is now poised to make gains whatever the reason, its clear that russian forces are advancing towards the city of pokrovsk. A vital logistical center if it were to fall, russia would come closer to its goal of taking the entire donbas which would be a brutal blow to ukrainian morale and would substantially changed facts on the ground. We would return to a situation like that in february and March Of 2022 when russian forces were steadily advancing through the eastern south of ukraine. For the first time since the Invasion Russia recently struck an international Cargo Ship loaded with grain in the Black Sea, headed for egypt if commercial vessels begin to shy away from the Black Sea it would reverse one of ukraines greatest achievements during this war, maintaining the ability to ship its grain and other exports at high levels. The economic element of the war does not get enough attention. But ukraine needs whatever cash it can get. Its arms industry, for example, needs more investment so that it can like russia, produce weapons on a near continuous basis the greatest fear in ukraine, however one that i heard often and for many people, both in government and on the streets, is not about their resolve but rather the west. And in particular, the United Statess one ukrainian who prefer to remain anonymous told me we will never become a russian colony. We will keep fighting but we worry that we will be fighting alone the delay in american aid during the last year caused by in infighting amongst stubborn republicans in congress has contributed to the deterioration of the situation on the ground and many now fear what would happen if Donald Trump wins in November Kristie calculate the former president of estonia told me this war is a struggle of Will Putin is in it to win. And he has transformed his economy into a war machine. Spending something like seven or 8 of gdp on his war of aggression the west is spending roughly 0. 2 of its gdp, helping ukraine defend itself if we could even double that figure, we could bankrupt putin the discussion in the west needs to move from Area Abstractions to urgent Reality Ukraine needs help on all fronts, economic, political, and military, and it needs that help now the biden administration should recognize that there is a chance that the next four months of aid to ukraine will be the last major american help to that country. An act accordingly better the hope for the best and plan for the worst go to cnn. Com fareed for link to my Washington Post Column this week and lets get started main event, my exclusive interview with Ukraines President Volodymyr Zelenskyy. We met friday in kyiv and i wanted to first understand how he saw the current state of the War Mr. President, pleasure to see you again. One more. September in kyiv this one feels like it is happening at a very important moment on the battlefield ukrainian forces went into the Kursk Region in russia, a large amount of territory there has that worked. There. There are people in ukraine who worry that you took forces away from the donbass and that those lines are now fragile and weak. Even though you have achieved success in of course, thanks so much thank you for this possibility to speak for it so first of all, we had very tough situation on the east, especially on the east in Kharkiv Region in Donbass Region in some, of these direction, is buladar is pokrovsk is myrnohrad. Its a lot of different cities people know about only pokrovsk, but youre right. That this situation was very difficult and they moved very quickly because we didnt have equipment again, when we speak about equipment, how to equip brigades really between us it doesnt matter how many brigades stand on one direction. If half of them not equipped so would you just lose a lot of people . You lose people because theyre not in armored vehicles or in something like this they dont have artillery, they dont have artillery rounds to compare the Number Russia uses 12th rounds we used one 11 to 12. That was a difference. Of course. That idea with the kursk, the Risk Operation is through where understood it the idea was to move some russian forces. There. And i think it was right idea you know, weve talked about munition as often and you talk about it a lot. Help us understand the u. S. Has passed this big aid package. Europe has passed aid packages. Why is that not translating . Its leading into enough munitions for you. Now is, is it is it that there isnt enough supply or is it that you need more aid . Everything a lot of different reasons. First, it goes very slowly second, we need 14 brigades to be ready until now we. Dont have from these package on brigades we did in the grip even for, you wanted to equip 14 brigades and we wanted you have not been able to now for an too much. Is too much for him for thats why we used our Interior Production of draws, not enough, but we did it it goes as i said to you that that than after eight Months Pause in decision before the positive decision of us congress what we did during these all eight months, everybody has to understand. We used all we could were moved what we have in reserve in resorts and what we have in storages or what resorts brigades who who, who we need now, what they had, we took all their weapon you have also been trying to persuade the United States and europe to allow you to use the weaponry to strike into russia explained why this is important. What do you want to the hit in russia that you think you should be allowed to hit everybody is looking the decision of the United States. Everybody is waiting for sides decisions. After that, they make decisions is true. And so we wanted to or image to use this weapon and just to attack these jets on the military basis, not Civilians Infrastructure military bail just want to be able to attack us the basis that are being used to launch these weapons, these planes, these missiles, because these Jazz Hurry at these jets these jets from there, they use not only missiles they use these jets and jets used per months 4,000 guided aerial bombs on just on the east of our terry 4,000 bombs. And these bombs and missiles are hitting ukrainian civilians, schools, energies you know whats this . All our energy infrastructure. They destroyed 80 by these guided bombs. 80 . Now i said, we had some meetings with officials and i said we waited too long. Now, russia began to move that jets from 100, 150 kilometers, 300 to 500 after that, i will tell you that now we need more permissions to you have permission now to know till now know next on gps from war to peace, perhaps President Zelenskyy will meet with President Biden later this month. Zelenskyy says he will present his american counterpart with a Peace Plan i asked him whats in it when we come back premieres next sunday at nine on cnn i thought i knew a lot about our irish roots i was surprised to learn so many more things. The Family Name 91892. Wow. How and heres the boat they came over on yes wow yeah i can do a cartwheel in here would you like to join us now . We would love to join you pods biggest sale of the summer. Save up to 25 on moving in storage for a limited time in Cy Pods has been trusted with over 6 Million moves, but dont wait, use Promo Code big 25 to save visit hot. Com today our right to reproductive Health Care is being stolen from us. 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Com today President Zelenskyy says he will present Joe Biden with a Peace Plan when the two meet later this month, i asked President Zelenskyy about it during my interview mr. President, youve talked a lot about how you also have a path to peace that you your Military Strategy is designed to make putin understand he cannot win. Are you going to talk to President Biden when you, when you submit it . In New York about this plan for peace yes, i will speak with him how to strengthen ours before summit to be in a strong position because diplomatic decisions and or solutions theyre good when you are strong otherwise, putin will not even. I mean, this take place in it. And i think otherwise they will be not interested in any kind of circumstances. How they can Stop The War thats why i have the plan. Yes. Victorious plan. Because for us is victory can we worry strong and be ready for the strong diplomacy thats why ive paired samples, four of them, the basic points plus one which we need after the war. So i will share with biden. Its about security security. Its about geopolitical place for ukraine is very strong Military Support and available for us so for us, and that we have to be free how to use one or another item. Its about economical support, decisions, but which will the i think interesting, but i think that main thing we are ready if our plan President Biden will well, value. And the Whale Support an if he and his team can add something which will give us more strong, less position will be ready. Will you present this plan to Donald Trump im ready. Im ready to share it with the President Biden and of course, i think it will be will be honest and right to share with two candidates with Donald Trump, with kamala harris. And also, i think that a lot of things depends on decision of the congress of the United States to share it with you congress, after these steps were ready to share it with people, how did you understand Donald Trump when he said, i can solve this war, i can end this war within a few days. If i get elected even before im president , thatd be able to solve it. I cant understand it. Her today because i dont know the details of what was who was here mens and what what does it mean my position that Election Period and election messages are election message just sometimes they are not very real. And thats why i think this these messages can have not very it can make us norris all of our people. Of course, of course. But i had i had Phone Call with Donald Trump and he said that he is very supportive and we had good conversation. Thats why this is recently when was i had only one during this period, yes, it was i think tomorrow you will be aware is supportive and he is he understands how is difficult to survive during the war, and he will do everything to strengthen ukraine. I didnt know. I mean, thats great, that it sounds this way and but thats why i want to share this plan to hear his reaction what do you think is going on in Putins Mind because putin has recently said hes willing to have negotiations, but he talks about what, What Histones Star is essentially total surrender for ukraine. I think i think he is he didnt change his smith main idea and sometimes hes playing just for Summer Leaders who are waiting some emotions from putin to hear something about this at sometimes he can give some messages to Globals House or somewhere and they began to speak. You see, there begins, you see putin is ready for dialogue what hes there and he fis the theyre not . Unitere, where th have different inrests and i think th is a Problem Tha that his mission is not to Stop The War he dsnt wanto stop anything cause he doesnt need and He Afraid very much of successful ukraine its not about even victory, but then how will the War End because youre not going to get a total victory . Se going to drive him out of all of the donbas and crimea. Hes not going to be able to occupy kyiv so there will have to be some Compromise Promise when youre very strong when you very strong, and other side knows that you are wearing a stroke and you are as strong as possible to make influence on his society not to be wearing a happy with it this war, because He Afraid. Again, i repeated again and again because im sure He Afraid on the one thing no leaders no countries no, nothing. He afraid of his suicide. Russian people. And if russian people are in danger if they. Dont have comfortable life, if theyre live without energy like our people, they will understand the price of the wa

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