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After her endorsement of Kamala Harris the east coast. Heres a live look at west Palm Beach, florida on this monday morning. Good morning, everyone. Im kasie hunt. Its wonderful to have you with us. Donald trump is once again safe following an apparent Assassination Attempt, the nation, once against. Once again, rocked a tragedy only narrowly the avoided. And yet another historic moment in an election that has been defined by historic moments. On sunday, Donald Trump was golfing with a republican donor at his course in west Palm Beach. Sources telling cnn the round was a Lastminute Addition to his schedule on announced to the public the former president was about to put on the fifth hole when gunshots rang out. Those shots coming from Secret Service agents who spotted the barrel of a wouldbe Assassins Gun they have an agent that jumps one whole ahead of time toward a president that was at and he was able to spot Rifle Barrel sticking out of the fence. And immediately engaged that individual at which time individual total at this time its unclear if the gunman fired any rounds himself. Police later finding what they called an ak47 style rifle. And two bags in the bushes around the Golf Course. A witness on the scene telling police they saw someone run from those bushes and flee in a black nissan. That afternoon, police detained a man driving a Matching Vehicle on a highway to the north. Although authorities have not yet named the suspected gunman, Cnns Law Enforcement sources have identified the man detained yesterday as ryan Wesley Routh he has a rap sheet, apparently, lot of the Crime Drop in North Carolina he apparently knew enough with his previous interaction with Law Enforcement that when he was pulled over and detained on i95, about 40 Minutes North of west Palm Beach, who is apparently trying to drive out, perhaps driving back to North Carolina that he knew enough to stay silent. He did not apparently speak to officers. He was calm the Source Hasnt Ralph is expected to face a mental Health Assessment Cnn has learned the fbi is conducting a global investigation into ralphs background, and that the Acting Director of the Secret Service is traveling to florida it has been just over two months since another Wouldbe Assassin attempted to kill Donald Trump, shooting at him as he spoke on a stage in butler, pennsylvania Take A Look at what happened following Yesterdays Attempt to trump posting on truth social thanking Law Enforcement, adding the job done was absolutely outstanding im very proud to be an american our panel is here this morning, Donell Harvin, Security Expert Faculty member at Georgetowns Emergency and Disaster Management Program alex thompson, cnn political analyst, national political reporter for axios meghan hays, former director of Message Planning for the biden white House And Shermichael singleton, republican strategist, cnn, political commentator, denial. Let me start with you in terms of the investigation here, one of the things weve talked a lot about here is the difficulty of securing a Golf Course in particular, A Sprawling Open Space with obviously a lot of potential entry points, at least if its a course thats not controlled by or is on say, a Military Base where some president s have golf. In the past because of the security concerns, what do you make of what weve heard from the investigators so far as they are looking into this this and what do you see happening next well, as obviously, its difficult to secure something with that type of acreage but clearly the Secret Service was on top of their game as mentioned, they were there did advanced team that was looking out and astutely noticed a Barrel Sticking out from the game it where it shouldnt be the size of a Golf Course you know, something like were President Trump was golfing. I mean, you think of a large Amusement Park mean you need a small army of Law Enforcement to truly lock that down this is an individual that enjoys his outdoor sports clearly. His outdoor rallies and so thats not going to stop nor should it stop. And Secret Service will just have to continue to do the job that they did yesterday to make sure that the former president safe alex thompson, we heard from the Campaign Leadership via an email yesterday. They said this is not a matter that we take lightly. This is the Trump Campaign, your safety, theyre writing to their staff is always our top priority. We ask that you remain vigilant in your daily comings and goings. Be observant and maintain a constant level of situational awareness and the New York the times this morning reports this about trumps mindset at former president donald j. Trump was said to be shocked at what the fbi described as a second attempt on his life in two months. But hes already cracking jokes about it on Sunday Afternoon and Phone Calls with advisers and allies, quote, he told me he was always glad to hear from me, but he was glad that he didnt need my Services Today said mr. Ronny jackson, who died dr. Who tended to mr. Trumps wounded ear while traveling with him the day after an Assassins Bullet flew within inches of his brain at a rally in butler, pa on july 13, or what have you heard from the Trump Camp about president s mindset and about what all of this says about where we are today yeah. When you also saw him joke about on truth social, when he said, oh, into basically that assassins zero, me too. And the thing is that trump even before this Estimation Times had really described him, framed himself as a martyr. And really charged to use martyrdom basically, since the first indictments came down as end, he says its in the rallies like im you know, theyre not after me, theyre after you. Im just in the way and all this does is reinforce that message and martyrdom. I dont think you can underestimate it as a political force. Martyrdom has been a powerful force in politics that just an american politics, but in World Politics forever Shermichael Singleton we of course want to be careful and precise in our language. We were saying this was assessed that the person that was detained Law Enforcement, i it made me him as the suspect obviously dont know. Very much at this point about the potential motive here. And we may never know about that this man had done an interview with the New York times about traveling. He did travel to ukraine. We have video of him in ukraine, but as you look at how this is playing out in the campaign this is another Incredible Billy difficult moment for the Country And One that puts the violence in our politics on display. I mean, yeah, its heightened and i think the Trump Campaign will obviously utilize this to rally their voters. Youre already seeing that the campaign sent out some Emails Yesterday i think the response from democrats, Vice President , her running mate, were pretty on par for what to be expected. Kasie, i got to tell you something. Im worried about this because what happens if this occurs again with someone who is more talented than skillful we have to figure out a way to tone down this rhetoric, whether its from the left on the political side, or the right on the political side i just dont think that what were seeing in our Politics Today bodes very well, particularly, lets say trump loses this election in november. What happens then compared to what weve seen in 2020, i have a lot of questions yet, i think a lot of americans are worried about to see it in this occur for a second time. Do you think theres any hope though of the Rhetoric Toning down the last six weeks and i doubted alex, i doubt it. I would hope that the advisors advising the former president would say, hey, look at whats going on in ohio, Bomb Threats with many of the haitians. Many of those folks are innocent people. Theyre just trying to make a living and trying to take Take Care of their families. That isnt helpful either. Right. And so you can look at this from two different paradigms and recognize the rhetoric coming from the foreign president is not helpful, but also saying the former president as a threat to democracy constantly, constantly. Thats also not helpful either. One thing that we have seen in a bipartisan way. Meghan is calls for increased resources for protecting the former president. Here was Jared Moskowitz, Whos Part of the Task Force is investigating the first Assassination Attempt weve seen this cycle against President Trump on our air yesterday. Lets watch im very concerned about the status of the secret Services Ability to keep the former president safe in afterwards and outdoor environments. But i went to butler. I could not believe how close the roof was to the state. The protocols going on right now, and the resources being committed to florida president. In my question, seemed to be wholly inadequate so of course worth noting that the Secret Service did prevent it, anything bad from happening to former President Trump yesterday. But that said, i mean, youve worked in the White House, you understand kind of whats required here. Does there need to be more for President Trump . I think that protocols that are in place are there for a reason, right . So the president and the Vice President have things that are different from the former president or people who are running because theres a continuation of government and thats what is allowed by the budget in congress. I think that there is a budget problem. I think theres a resource problem. I think that the Secret Service and our federal Law Enforcement is wholly underfunded to do the things we have unga coming coming up. They are responsible for all these world leaders, Secret Services general assembly know, are coming into the us. Secret service is responsible for them. Theyre responsible to the president , the Vice President , everyone running the former president s national security advisor, the secretary of treasury, like there, they mass amount of people and they have a very limited resources. They rely so heavily on our other federal Law Enforcement partners and our local their local Law Enforcement that they just they are not resourced enough, so i dont necessarily know that the measures in place are enough. I just think overall, in a holistic scale, they are not resourced enough all right, fair enough. Coming up here On Cnn this morning. J. D. Vance amplifies false statements about haitian migrants in springfield, ohio. Those remarks sparking violent threats in his home states, small town, plus Donald Trump lashes out a Taylor Swift following the Megastars Endorsement of Kamala Harris and we continue to bring you the latest developments out of florida and the calls for in security around the former president following the apparent second Assassination Attempt against Donald Trump i would imagine that the next time he comes at a Golf Course no probably be a little bit more people around the perimeter. What the Secret Service did exactly what they should have done culture over the edge. People are watching and then our World Change he had an explosive Reverberation Tv on the edge premieres sunday at nine On Cnn chase your passions. We were made to put them in a Package Bombus makes absurdly comfortable Underwear Need to move with you not on you, because their basic things should be your best things. One purchased equals one donated visit bombus. Com and get 20 off your firstorder. 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So look if the Secret Service now gets the point, right, and theyre now going to change their protocols while congratulations, but it should have happened after the first attempt two months ago that was florida democratic congressman Jared Moskowitz questioning why Donald Trump is not getting more protection after another apparent Assassination Attempt. But according to the Palm Beach county sherrif, the former president , is getting the protection that hes entitled to the Golf Course is surrounded by shrubbery. So when somebody gets into the shrubbery, theyre pretty much out of sight all right and at this level that he is at right now, hes not the sitting president if he was, we would have this lie or a Golf Course around well, because hes not security is limited to the areas that the Secret Service deems possible the White House was quick to respond to the latest apparent attempt on trumps life, President Biden expressing relief that the former President Wasnt Hurt and condemning all forms of political violence. Kamala harris calling the incident deeply disturbing and raising concerns about more violence going forward Donell Harvin, can i bring you back into this conversation . Because when we are covering violent events shootings, or attempts, theres often conversations about people repeating the actions of others are Copycat Kind of situations. We obviously heard quite a bit from the sheriff here, but the details of this, what concerns do you have about how or whether this might lead to additional problematic incidents . Well, i have concerns, but just not not just me, my my federal Law Enforcement friends who i heard from yesterday, you recall after the butler incident, the secret Secret Service was concerned. It prompted the fbi and dhs to put out a joint bulletin, what we call a jew. But joint Intelligence Bulletin to state and local authorities about their concerns at a very high level with Copycat Or Repeat type of attacks. And so, you know, the, Threat Environment is really unique and i think we should take a moment to appreciate that when youre looking at the Security Detail of Donald Trump in normal times, normal election times. Im sure it probably overkill be more than what you need. But we have right now is a Threat Environment where two months ago you had a gentleman who was two years out of High School come with centimeters of killing the former president and now you have a gentleman whose well into his 50s from when youre looking at a threat assessments thats a wide range of individuals will potentially a wide different range of grievances that you have to protect someone for. And its quite difficult alright, Donell Harvin for us this morning to now, very grateful to have your expertise really appreciate your being on the show coming up next here On Cnn this morning, the Polaris Dawn crew returns home. The successful splashdown. Its going to be one of the five things you have to see this morning plus for Word Post from Donald Trump revealing to the world how he really feels about Taylor Swift brought to you by karwan car, Ivana Dale drive you happy long have you been tracking her Cars Value with corona . Just like seven months. Should we sell it . 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Its, Crazy Act to keep saying that it would be helpful if they understood the weight of their words and how they could harm a community like ours local officials from springfield, ohio begging Donald Trump and j. D. Vance to stop spreading false claims about haitian migrants Eating Pets in their city. This morning, inperson classes at two colleges in springfield have been canceled. After one school received a Bomb Threat and a threat of a potential Shooting Targeting members of the haitian community it comes after two springfield hospitals. Were also placed on lockdown on saturday following Bomb Threats to those facilities ohio senator and Vice President ial candidate j. D. Vance, who helped spread the rumor that was ultimately repeated by Donald Trump on the national Debate Stage last week, told our Dana Bash that he still stands by these now debunked claims the american media totally ignored this stuff until Donald Trump and i start talking about cat memes. If i have to just do the mean, create stories so that the american media actually pays attention to the suffering of the american people. Then thats what im going to do, dana, because you guys are completely letting commonly harris coast. You just said that this is a story that youve created so eating dog, were not, we are creating, we are dana it. Comes from firsthand accounts from my constituents. I say that were creating a story, meaning were creating the american media focusing on it i didnt create 20,000 illegal migrants coming into springfield thanks to Kamala Harris is policies her policies did that, but yes, we created the actual focus that allowed the american can media to talk about this story and the suffering caused by Kamala Harris has policies and joining our panel now is cnn, chief political correspondent and the anchor of State Of The Union and inside politics Dana Bash, dana, good quentin in yellow, are you going to yell at me i dont plan ive been told to shut up on her. Thank you. Were so grateful to have you. This was quite an interview and i mean, he he did hit on part of what has made me turn the story over my head so many times, which is that there is certainly a Policy Argument to be made exactly around all of the issues with immigration that the city of springfield is facing. Hes saying but the reality of what they have done in terms of Eating Pets is having realworld implications for the thousands, possibly tens of thousands of people who go to school in this community who need hospitals in this community. And there he seemed to acknowledge shoe while we created this. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there was kind of a pregnant pause when i heard him say if we have to create stories and thats what well do when i said what you created a story. And then he i think he realized what he said and moved on and went after me again. But i think even just kinda if you take a step back, what he did at the beginning of our interview, kasie was take issue with the fact that i quoted the mayor of springfield and this is before we had in mind, we brought him on after after the interview, but i florida him from a few days earlier where he was pleading with federal officials not to say this because they are putting the lives of the residents is springfield and danger. And then vance than sort of accused me of telling him that hes inciting violence. Well this is not me. Again, this is my reporting. And then the mayor of springfield came on again here at the top amman again afterwards to say, look, i think thats really the point. And you nailed it right at the beginning here is that its not as if there arent real discussions that should be had about what is a legal, not illegal, a legal program that was signed into law, not by not by joe biden, but we signed into law earlier by i believe it was by bush, but but definitely it done way before joe biden, it is true that Joe Bidens Administration has decided that because things are so dire in haiti, which is basically run by gangs now that they should be given the ability to have temporary status, be given parole in order to get into the country. And it is also true because i did some reporting about this a lot of it on saturday before this interview, that there are a lot of employers in springfield who are so grateful to have these haitian migrants there because they were trying to grow the economy in springfield, which has been decimated in the 70s and 80s, and they didnt have workers to help do that. Now, they do questions about integrating and schools and with language and taking drivers test, changing the laws. Those are really legitimate questions. Eating dogs and cats. That is steeped in racist tropes and thats theres no, theres no other way to say it yeah. Alex thompson, you any reporting or have you had conversations about how things are going between Donald Trump and j. D. Vance when he is out there doing things like this where he is basically saying, well, we created this and then trying to backtrack and kind of the way that he is handling these kinds of things yeah. I mean, this is why this is this is not a bug, but part of the reason why j. D. Vance was picked, and actually, i think j. D. Vance is running the trump playbook. Theres a truism through trumps entire life that all attention is good attention, even honestly this latest example of what springfield, ohio it reminds me very much of 2015, 2016, trump talking about a mexican judge. Can mexican Judge Cant Treat him fairly throwing out just racebaiting attempts because it changes the conversation. Now, weve spent the last five days talking about springfield, ohio. Obviously they talking about these unverified claims and in denouncing the racebaiting. But weve been talking about springfield, ohio last five days instead of the Debate Performance where honestly like commas are kicked his butt lets Watch Dana a little bit of what Josh Shapiro had to say on State Of The Union in reaction to your vance interview, lets watch the united States Senator from ohio just came on your show and blamed his own constituents for his own lives. So pathetic, this has now taken on a life of its own because of what they incited and peoples lives are at risk because of j. D vance, this guy should know better i mean, dana, god forbid, something actually happens in springfield, ohio wanted somebody follows through on one of these threats while youve been talking about the fact that there have been i think today again, there are colleges there that are closed schools that are closed hospitals that had Bomb Threats and look, its, it is dangerous. I mean, theres no other way to say it and its again, not just me saying it. Its the mayor of springfield sheriff there begging people just this is fixable. The governor, republican governor. Now, hes definitely gone sideways with Donald Trump in his in his whatever dot trumps eight years in the public spotlight. But he we covered Mike Dewine when he was a senator. I mean, he is one of the most conservative members. Theres not a liberal Guy Hardy and he is somebody who very much supports this program. To have the haitians come into ohio. But he also is working very hard to help integrate into the community, helping with resources and not talking about cat memes. Well, Shermichael Singleton, lets watch a little bit of what Mike Dewine had to say over the weekend about this very issue. Watch this discussion about haitians eating dogs, its just not helpful. And again, these people are here legally. They are here legally, and they want to work and they are in fact working. And when you talk to the employers, what the employers tell you is we dont know what we would do without them. We have Hate Groups coming in and this, this discussion just tasha, stop shermichael, really, the governments right. I mean, if from a policy perspective, and i would probably have advised Vance And Trump look, it could you argue that this is a microcosm of some of the issues across the country with immigration about integrating individuals because of cultural differences, you can certainly make that argument and say, look, look get the result of springfield because of bidenharris policies, we need to fix this. I think intellectually, most people can say, all right, that makes a whole lot of sense. But when you are not doing that and youre Making Arguments that are steeped in obvious racism. It turns off a whole lot of people strategically you have to bring in people from the Middle And Weve already seen for months now that trump is still sort of struggling with getting some of those moderateleaning republicans. Yeah. Theres still some that are sitting on the fence. Not sure if theyre going to vote for harris to sit home. But if you know, you need to bring those people over in a state like pennsylvania, in a place like maybe North Carolina, which because now competitive. Im looking at the data and im wondering who are those voters . What type of profile do they fit in . And this type of rhetoric does it turn them off . And i would say that it probably does. Well and i also your point about the rhetoric earlier, like somethings going to happen all of this is all tied together. All the rhetoric is like these people in springfield are now being threatened by their own senator who they elect to go to washington to advocate for them in this horrible way. And its just this something bad is going to happen. Its just a matter of time. And dana, if thought it was i mean the wind used the Phrase Hate groups to describe the people that were coming in here really pick yeah. I mean, forgive me, but there were reports on saturday of proud boys been there and i think that was what he was referring to and i dont know that it was a lot, but thats another thing i brought up with j. D. Vance, whether its one proud boy or 12, is this really what you want . He did denounce the proud boys and talked about their hateful rhetoric, but know, the kind of saying elements that are listening to what theyre right below the surface. And now theyre rearing their heads. Yeah. Right. Dana bash, so grateful to have you this morning. Thank you so much. Everyone else is going to stick around and coming up here On Cnn this morning, weve had to Assassination Attempts in two months. Were gonna speak with the creator of paramounts the circus about this. 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The senate is set to vote on a measure this week that aims to require Insurance Companies to cover ivf treatments. Its the second time the senate will vote on the bill, but the first time only two republicans joined efforts to pass the legislation the u. S. Coast guard kicking off a Twoweek Hearing Today in the 2023 implosion of the titan submersible, former employees of the company that owned the titan are scheduled to testify five Crew Members were killed, and of course sparked a debate about the future of private under Sea Exploration and the emmy goes to shogun that name a lot at last Nights Emmy awards, a shogun won for best Drama Series and the top awards for Best Actor and actress. The show ended up winning 18 total emmys, the most for any show ever in its first season all right. Lets turn now to this in the street. Thats a knockout but said in a tweet thats a cop out. Im just like, hey well you. Okay are you okay, Donald Trump taking on Pop Icon Taylor swift after she endorsed Kamala Harris after last weeks debate, trump not mincing words. He posted this quote, i hate Taylor Swift and quote, the Harris Campaign is obviously embracing the endorsement heres my Life Hack for All Of You, all the guys out there, whatever you read my Life Pac surround yourself with smart women and listen to them and youll do just fine. That includes my Fellow Cat Owner Taylor Swift. Its really great to have all of these women help us beat the smallest man in the world, donald alright, panel is back Shermichael Singleton, the wisdom to saying, i hate Taylor Swift You Know What . I actually went to truth social to read some of the comments from people on there. I was surprised a lot of trumps followers were saying, wouldnt the hell are you doing this . Isnt really necessary. Just ignore her, talk about the policies. I mean, these are people who loved the former president and follow him i agree with that Commentary And Advice is just not necessary. I mean, we were talking to you during the break about some of the advantages for trump and disadvantages for Vice President harris. And i do think he has a strong case to make on some issues where that 16 of people in some states or 10 in other states are saying, You Know What, look, im not necessarily sure i want to vote for harris. I want to hear more from trump on policies. This doesnt help Casey Meghan it like its its interesting to me because i feel like other republicans have actually been really careful for him not to like Insult Taylor swift even if they are like discounting curious j. D. Vance for example, who as in our previous segment shows not really afraid of saying things that will sparked controversy. Heres what he said about swift. Lets watch we admire taylor Swifts Music, but i dont think most americans, whether they like her music, are fans of hers or not, are going to be influenced by a Billionaire Celebrity who i think is fundamentally disconnected from the interests. And problems of most americans. So he says perhaps fairly, you know, shes a billionaire, she lives a different life. And other people, but he does say, we admire taylor Swifts Music and Matt Gaetz was in the Spin Room after the debate saying that he likes taylor Swifts Music doesnt like her politics. That seems to be a way to thread this needle that Donald Trump is now all of a sudden like he cant not go theyre yeah, absolutely. We also saw after she posted her endorsement for the Vice President that over 400,000 people went to the site to register to vote. I mean, thats a large number of people that all of a sudden shes activating and we still have what, five weeks laughter, six weeks left to the campaign where just more people and the more you are just drumming up hatred for her the more her supporters are going to register to vote and get involved. So it seems a little odd that he Cant Figure out how to thread the needle here, that, that his ego is that fragile alex thompson, i mean, this is one of these things to where you know, you never want to raise something that i guess im now thinking about this post in the context of what we saw happened later on in the Day Yesterday Violence has become a part of this election cycle. And when you say that you hate someone and its clear that there are people in the real world that are willing to take action on your behalf even when its just words from you this ends up being in the real world and we obviously there was a Terrorist Threat against against a Taylor Swift concert in austria it seems like maybe everybody should be steering clear of rhetoric like this period. Yeah, but i would not bet on that blast six weeks to the election. The fact is that we thank the rhetoric is likely to get more angry and more potentially toward political violence these next six weeks and then last, we are really marching into a tinderbox these next six weeks. And the fact is that there are significant chance of political violence on every side here the fbi is also, has said theres blaring Red Lights in terms of violence going on. And the one thing i was just going to add to your as conversation about trump is trump has just on the able psychologically of letting any slight real or perceived to ever go on unanswered. And this has been something thats been going on for nine years and you saw Kamala Harris its really use that to great effect during the debate whether or not it was talking about his Crowd Rally sizes, or even the fact that she cited University Of Pennsylvania experts to contradict him and Donald Trump went to upenn. She knew that. And you saw that he was unable to not respond and not even get on message because of that yeah. I mean, i have to say that was the thing that stood out to me that debate like, how is it that hes he just doesnt he doesnt he doesnt resist it its incredible and its also, again to your point earlier, how is this attracting the voters in the middle . How is he going to win with his strategy . Because its, its not attracting any of these undecided voters that are in the middle that are going to i decide this election. All hes doing is riling up his base and inciting violence on horrible rhetoric yeah, truly lucky that his base is enthusiastic about voting for him again, theres no doubt about that the numbers are there. Theyre at aloks though, when youre looking at the folks in the middle, theyre not necessarily tied to a particular candidate ideology. They want Somebody Activity they want to see how your go to guide the country forward based upon their concerns. That has to be the answer coming from trump and hes just not doing that as effectively as he could have even doing that debate, there were a ton of moments he could have gone after the Vice President on a lot of issues. And i was surprised by the fact that he just couldnt quite Get It across the Finish Line all right. Lets turn back now to the developments out of Palm Beach, florida. I just 65 days after the July Attempt on Donald Trumps life during that rally in pennsylvania . The country once again rocked by a second apparent Assassination Attempt on the former president s life. The backtoback incidents have already given way to Frustration And Fingerpointing on Capitol Hill lawmakers demanding answers as they confront this violent new normal ive talked to members of both parties and people just dont Get It. They dont understand how were in this situation. For a second time. It is shaking the confidence quite frankly, and our institutions and that is something thats hard to explain to the american people turning us now is Mark Mckinnon, former adviser to George W Bush and John Mccains campaign, also creator of paramounts. The circus mark. Thank you so much for being here. Always great to have you. Although of course, the topic today, another difficult one what do you how do you see what we saw happen on the Golf Course yesterday . This is obviously the second time in two months. And as we face down, these final days of the campaign, and weve been noting here that the rhetoric seems unlikely to cool down. A considering the source circumstances well, isnt the Bad News kasie, is that it happened and its just tragic. The good news is that the system worked, but the Bad News is we need more protection and but the good news again is that there has been a truly bipar, bipartisan response to notion that we need additional resources. People like ro khanna, the most progressive member of the democratic caucus, is out there saying we need to look at this. And if we need more resources, we need it immediately. So theres a real bipartisan response. So theres no question that theres great concern about this. We have 50 days, luckily, want to enhance the security okay. Port for both candidates in any way possible. And thats a bipartisan response. And lets do it and lets do it immediately. And lets turn down the heat. We dont need people like Elon Musk out there creating. Situations where people are hearing that signals and the wrong way yeah. Know, youre referring of course, to what Elon Musk tweeted in response to this, it was a tweet that he had to then pretty quickly delete after it seems like the community on on his own platform was not interested in hearing what he had to say. And mark, i mean, the thing about kind of how the entire environment is right now, whats going on in springfield, ohio, for example, that the rhetoric that is being used is generating realworld threats against colleges, against hospitals schools, and schools. In that community. I mean, what does that say about our politics and i often want to say this isnt who we are. Weve never been here before it doesnt actually seem to be the case. There have been moments of violence in the past, but the way we communicate the speed with which all of this moves the ability of people to do these kinds of things, to absorb the information thats necessary to actually do something in the realworld, bhatt has changed. It has changed ever we truly clawed her way to the bottom. Kasie in the other story were talking about right now versus j. D. Vance. And the latest evolution, we Cant Story where he said to her correspondent Dana Bash they hes creating story another way of saying that is, yeah, we lie, we lied about a story we made it up in order to bring attention to a story that we think needs attention. Thats problematic when youre lying about a story that didnt really happen, creating a negative impression of people in your community thats not true. And now you have college is shutting down and all kinds of real threats to Peoples Safety in that community. Thats a problem yeah. Mark, let me ask you to weigh in also on the conversation that we were just having here about Taylor Swift and what Donald Trump had to say about her, the truth social post was, i hate Taylor Swift theres sort of the lighter version of looking at this where were talking about, okay, what impact does this have on swifties . Who are taking part in the election, but also the darker undertones. Again, when we talk about how rhetoric shows up in the realworld i think theres only way to interpret that and thats, that thats thats more than a bad signal. Thats telling his supporters. I mean, thats turning up the volume on his supporters and saying i hate her. Basically go after her somehow, whatever that means to the problem is you have people out there, that interpret these things you know, in ways that we cant manage. And we know that our resources are in capable of providing the sort of safety that we need for our candidates out there just say that you hate Taylor Swift, that, that is we know what kind of how dedicated, and we know how on him some supporters of both candidates are. So when you send and those kinds of signals, if youre a truly dedicated supporter whos on unhinged and your guy hates that person, will youre going to go after whatever that means and its usually not good yeah, really really difficult. Reality of our Stephen Collinson put it this way. And this is hes talking about the Assassination Attempt incidents like this. But they happen at all, it speaks to the undercurrent of violence that is a constant shadow over american politics. One thats exacerbated by the easy ability of firearms. Both nominees now address outdoor crowds from bulletproof screens and there will now be fresh fears that a tempestuous period running up to Election Day could take the country further down a dark road i mean, i think this is the thing that now considering this has happened twice hangs over the remainder of the campaign. Well, not only the remainder of the campaign, kasie, but really scares us to think about what happens on Election Day or shortly thereafter if its a really close election, thats really scary. All right Mark Mckinnon for us this morning. Mark, always grateful to have you part of the program. Thanks so much for being here. See you soon all right. Alex thompson, i mean, on that i mean, weve got two minutes left here, about i mean the reality is this election is going to be very close. And there have been these markers of dark, of darwin as we have hurtled towards november 5. Yeah. I mean, the thing is that its it is possible that the last January 6 is actually just the first of many January 6 that cheerful assessment there. But but its true if theres a very close Election Mean Youve seen this escalating, you know we would talk sometimes jokingly about the Brooks Brothers riot of 2000. I mean the every single close Election Youve seen an escalation of aggression rhetoric, and occasional. And now violence every single time. Will meghan hays, i will say people are capital is much more prepared, at least from talking to my sources for what may or may not happen as after the election, but your thoughts here . Yeah. I mean, i think that they have to be right. I think we can have another January 6 like regardless, we can not have that take place on the capitol. So i think that they have to be more prepared or or that i mean, that will be really detrimental to our country, and people so disconnected disillusioned and purposeless. And we need political leaders to figure out a way to address these issues at the actual Root Problem thats causing people to fall into the rhetoric thats causing them to be violent. Yeah. Well, in a lot of that is of course, how easily accessible so much of this is. Your phone in your pocket, the way you can ultimately take action based on all of this. So much easier here than it ever used to be. Thank you all for being with us this morning. I appreciate it. Thanks to All Of You for joining us as well. Im kasie hunt. Dont go anywhere. Cnn news central starts right now