Transcripts For CNN The Source With Kaitlan Collins 20240918

CNN The Source With Kaitlan Collins September 18, 2024

Thats it for us. The news continues. Ill be back tomorrow. Hope to tune in then the source with Kaitlan Collins starts. Now Source Tonight, Donald Trump describing for the first time the moment that he heard shots, were now on was playing around of golf as a Secret Service says its plan to protect him worked so how did an armed combat with the lengthy criminal Record Ligand wait for 12 hours before getting within Shooting Distance of the former president of the united states. Im Kaitlan Collins. And this is the source on the Air Tonight at 9 00 p. M. We are hearing for the first time from Donald Trump about that moment on the Golf Course yesterday, when a secret Service Agent, who was walking ahead of him spotted an apparent Assassin Hiding in the bushes All Of A Sudden we shots being fired in the air and i guess probably four or five and it sounded like bullets, but what do i know about that . But Secret Service knew immediately bullets and they grabbed me and i think probably the other ones, steve is one of the people see what gov, a great friend of mine, a secret Service Agent had seen a barrel of a ak47, which is a very powerful gun rifle. And you started shooting at the barrow and started shooting in the bushes . Well, could only see the barrow. How good is that . Right . But could only see the bear on based on that, he started shooting and ran toward the target. And was shooting a lot of i mean, those were the shots we heard. The other one ever got to shut off and he ran across The Street and grabbed his car, popped into his truck or a car . And amazingly, a civilian in that area. So Thats Something that looked very suspicious and in the car drove the car to the back of his truck of some kind and took pictures of the License Plate Game to the Sheriffs Office i just want to note as we are hearing from trump on this, what we did hear from Authorities Today is his rifle was actually not an ak47, is they initially thought today it was a different kind of rifle. And this also comes as late this evening, were hearing from trump, were also hearing from his Running Mate, senator j. D. Vance who is speaking for the first time in public about the Phone Call that he had with trump just minutes after all this happened i answer it. And he says, jd, youre not going to believe this, but they tried to do it again i said, no, they didnt joshua, whats going on here, Sir End he says no, i was playing golf and the Secret Service found somebody who was trying to shoot me a lot more on what we are hearing from them tonight. What details theyre revealing as were also learning more about the multiple investigations now underway to determine whether this latest apparent attempt on Trumps Life could have been prevented if enough is being done to protect the republican nominee the fbi tells us that the suspect appears to have moved under the cover of darkness in the middle of the night around 2 00 a. M. When Cell Phone data shows Ryan Ruth in the area of the Golf Course at Trump International. He may have remained there for nearly 12 hours. Armed with that powerful gun the Acting Director of the Secret Service, who is now indefinitely in florida as they investigate this, as he spoke to trump. And that he has the highest level of protection right now few people know all things. Donald trump in south florida, more than my lead Source Tonight, the State Attorney for Palm Beach County, florida, Dave Aronberg and david, its great to have you here because we were talking yesterday, just as all of this was happening and this was getting underway and we were a lot of details. Were just coming out, but given this is all happening in your backyard, whats your assessment of what weve heard from Officials Today about where all of this stands right now good to be with you. Kaitlan. Well, the feds are on top of this, are doing a full thorough investigation and they have charged this suspect with two charges that will stick this. These are the easy charges punishable by up to ten years in prison for an Ex Felon possessing a firearm while all you need is an Ex Felon check and then he was possessing a firearm check. You dont need any more intent or anything. So were going to keep behind bars for that and youve got the other charge obliterating a serial number on a firearm. They got that to punishable by up to five years in prison. Theres still maybe a chance up. And i think a probability that more charges could come, like aggravated assault with a firearm against a federal law enforce horseman officer. Thats when the suspect pointed his rifle allegedly at a secret Service Agent. So that can get you up to 20 years in prison. So i think the feds are going to keep investigating and ultimately they could add on some new charges. Well, what about given clearly there was premeditation here. There was the gopro, this person was lying there and wait for about 12 hours. They still the Cell Phone data. What other charges could we potentially see here . Because that was a big Question Today when it was just those first two per pertaining to this gun itself . Well, that aggravated assault with a deadly weapon thats a possibility. Theres also a federal statute on threatening an Ex President that can get you up to five years in prison. Theyre going to look to see what is Social Media sites say, what was in the bag, what writings hes had, what kind of threats hes given. And that could be an additional charge generally, when it comes to like, attempted murder, thats more a state charges and a federal charge, but also i think you need more than you have right now. You really have to get into his state of mind. Hes got to take us a substantial step into taking action that mean its always a possibility, but generally, those kinds of charges are really at the State Level rather than the federal level, but make no mistake. I think this guy is a whole world of hurt. Hes going to be facing many years in prison and hes not going to get out of jail pending trial. Theyre going to show that hes a danger to the community. So hes not going to get pretrial release. We heard from the sheriff and Palm Beach County earlier today talking about how maralago is about a safe as it can be at this point, talking about the level of protection at that place. But obviously the Golf Course is separate than that. Its about a 15minute Drive as you will know, its across the bridge in west Palm Beach. How much harder . For is it to secure something like the Trump International Golf Course that it is the maralago club, which has that one entrance in one entrance out with obviously a Guard Shack at the front of it and a much harder perimeter. It seems yes. In fact, maralago is bordered on one side by water and they can easily shut down the roads. In Fact Theyve shut down the road, one major road outside of maralago, even when the former president is not there and thats the consternation of the Palm Beach residence now, in west Palm Beach, as much harder to shut down the roads, you got made youre roads right outside of the golf club, which youre correct about ten to 15 minutes away. Theres also those large shrubbery, the trees that are right in front of the fence. And so someone could hide in that and some very large perimeter. Its very difficult to monitor that entire area, especially if youve got someone willing to wait for 12 hours hours to go there on the cover of darkness. This is not the first time youve seen someone breached the trees into the fence. There have been paparazzi been media members. Now, a lot of times the media will alert Secret Service sometimes they dont, and they take pictures of the former president while he was golfing. This is just the first time someone has pointed a rifle at the former president leeson, his direct section and so i do anticipate therell be more security, but its just really hard to monitor that property that closely yeah. And you know, yesterday when there was that first briefing by officials, you were there and you spoke to reporters this just before wed actually seen charges now weve seen that brief Body Cam Footage that theyve released of them actually arresting Ryan Ruth. You can see officials have their guns drawn. Theyre directing him to back up with his hands in the air. He lifts his shirt seemingly to it to show he doesnt have any weapons or anything on him. As he walks backwards and then they arrest him what are you hearing from other colleagues . Law enforcement People Tonight about just the aftermath and i mean, are they shocked that this was able to happen . Theyre grateful at the good samaritan. Think about it. You had a Passerby Who saw something suspicious, took a photo of the Cars License plates, so Law Enforcement was armed with that knowledge, not just the Make And Model of the car, but the license plate. And he still was able to get out 45 minutes of a Head Start driving north apparently perhaps driving back to North Carolina but he only got as far as the County North of Palm Beach, Martin County where the deputies at a great stop. And i think this shows also that the suspect is used to this. Maybe not this type of crime, but hes got a long Felony Rap Sheet back in North Carolina. So he knows enough not to try to do anything weird on that Traffic Stop roles, you could get shot. He knows enough not to talk. Apparently he didnt. He clammed up, didnt Say Anything when he was stopped and now he was joking with his Lawyer Today in court. So yeah, this guy has been through the process time and time again, but as his attorney will be getting out any time soon well, yeah, the word was that he was all smiles in his initial appearance, joking with his attorney. I dont know if he was trying to show that hes insane or he just is that kind of person. By the way, its going to be very hard for him to establish an Insanity Defense because although hes clearly got a screw loose, when he fled, is showed that he knew the difference between right and wrong to establish an Insanity Defense, you have to not know the difference between right and wrong. Why do you flee . Because he knew what you did was wrong and against the law thats really interesting. David aronberg, thank you for that. As you hear more, please keep us updated and come back to us here on the source thank you. Kaitlan. And as you heard, mr. Aronberg mentioned there, brian who did make that first court appearance today, where he was apparently joking with his attorney, didnt seem like much of a joke. He had his hands and his feet shackled together as he was facing those two federal gun charges that we mentioned a short time after that, we learned that route that actually popped up on the fbis radar. Back in 2019 after there was a tip about a felon in possession of a gun, even as Law Enforcement tried to run down that what led up to this, we should note tonight the Secret Service is still facing a pretty immense challenge, which is what comes and what happens with trumps Golf Course and just how accessible it is. We know this firsthand here at cnn because lets take a look at these images as mr. Ehrenburg just mentioned, when trump was in office, our Photo Photojournalist could often capture video of him golfing at Trump International. Now this would come, you if the White House didnt say whether or not the president was golfing or who it was would journalists often relied on images like The Ones that youre seeing here to get a sense of the president s schedule, but to capture these images seen him, photographers were not on the property. Its still itself. Instead, we were positioned across The Street on public property. Oftentimes officials knew we were there. Sheriffs would ride by. But trump has often still very visible through our cameras through the treeline of the property itself. Our top Law Enforcement Sources Tonight are cnn, National Security analyst, and the former Assistant Secretary at the department of homeland security, juliette kayyem, and also former fbi senior Intel Officer filled, but its great to have you back fill because what we heard from the Fbi Today and this ties back to what dave was just talking about. There are potential maybe Insanity Plea if thats what the suspect goes for here, theyre talking to witnesses were at the scene there talking to members of his family. One of those interviews what what kind of questions are they asking . Boy, theres a lot of them, but first question is are going to be about whether theres there are other people who were involved in this. You got to ensure even if you are 99 certain there was no conspiracy, you got to ensure that nobody was helping him. Nobody told him that trump would be their you also have questions obviously about who provided the weapon, but then investigation gets more complicating. As you add in things like whats on his Cell Phone, whats his email . What whats his Google Search History . You might be going back to reinterview people with what happened a year ago, what happened two years ago . How did you get motivated to do this . Was he inspired by somebody so the initial questions are about threat, but they the investigation starts to get worse complex as you get a timeline going back, maybe 2345 years, kaitlan. Yeah. And obviously the gun is a big question here. Phil and juliet, thats thats why im wondering about this 2019 investigation that an Fbi Tip that they got that he was in possession of a firearm, that he was a felon. Hes obviously not allowed to have one but the Click Case we were told was closed because the bureau said they didnt get any more information. I mean, when i heard that It Kind of raised my eyebrows in a sense of why would that be the case here . Why would they wouldnt look into this any further if that is something that they were worried about. Right. And then the question is who, who tipped them off . Was it a Family Member . We know it was his daughters car. We know the sons spoke yesterday. There have concerns of what his possession of how he came into possession of the gun as well as why the fbi did not pursue it, could they not find him . Well, all of those questions that will be asked because you go back in any of these cases, theres always these moments, right . If only someone had stepped in or theyve gone and investigated this, if only than this could have been stopped. So those are going to be the main questions for, you how did he possess this . Why wasnt he stopped before . Or how did he stay at the Golf Area for so long with a car . Amancio is not just him hiding. There was a car right there and how did you why is he doing this for me as someone who studies radicalization and talks often with you but about political violence. There is a definite disconnect between what were seeing before and All Of A Sudden, this political violence and what hasnt, what happened in the last couple of weeks, months, or years that would have turned him from some guy whos very into ukraine to now being a potential assassin against trump. And thats what youre going to want to look for. Were there other people egging them on . Was he online . Did he get radicalized by the butler, Pennsylvania Assassination Attempt . And hes a copycat and therefore, we should worry about others yeah. And he obviously has a pretty massive online presence. If you look through his Social Media feeds, theres a lot for officials to pour over here, but feel on the Golf Course the other thing we heard from the acting secret Service Director Today was there was no full sweep of the Golf Course. He kind of seemed to imply it was a Lastminute Trip to the Golf Course that it wasnt really on the schedule. It certainly wasnt on any public schedule. But instead of securing and sweeping the whole course, an agent was just moving one to 21 to two holes before him, gratefully because thats how they they saw this guy but given its public knowledge, trump regularly plays golf. It was a sunday afternoon. Hes got a big motorcade. Its not hard to know where he is at a given time i mean, what was your reaction to that today my reaction is that the american population will overreact to this look, therell be legitimate questions about resourcing for the Secret Service. There will be a question about whether you have to shut off every street every time the president united states decides to go golf but when you ask for that level of Security And Assurance that the president will never be touched what youre going to get as a president who is not accessible to the american people thats not been the american way. Think about when president obama won 20 years ago. I remember that fewer than 20 years. I remember that there were thousands of people in chicago, washington, should he youre not done that. Think about what President Bush that was 20 years, years ago. President bush went to Ground Zero in New York. Should that have not happened because he was accessible to people if you want assurance of perfect security, youre going to have president s who arent accessible. So thats going to be a tough question to ask kaitlan. Whats the balance . Yeah, its a good question thats now going to be raised by two of these incidents happening within two months. Phil mudd, juliette kayyem. Thank you. Both tonight after that first attempt on his life, we remember Donald Trump reacted by calling for unity. 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