Officials nationwide. As donald trump threatens to jail, many of them also, we need to get this deal done. Kamala harris avoids policy specifics before black journalists. But is that what liberals want? why, does not have to do it? and one of magas biggest fans is on track to become the world's first trillionaire. What that means for politics? and power live at the table. Scott jennings kara swisher, bryan lanza, and ashley allison welcome to a special special edition of newsnight state of the race phillip in new york. Let's get right to what america is talking about. The rhetoric, about the rhetoric tonight in michigan, after donald trump blamed democrats for the assassination attempts against him, he is making his first public appearance since that frightened thank incident this weekend a little while ago, i got a very nice call from kamala biden, i want to be nice. Yeah, he was so nice to me instead it but, you know, in one way, i sort of wish well, wasn't made because i do feel he's so so nice meantime, trump's number two is lecturing everyone about their rhetoric except apparently trump himself look, we can disagree with one another. We can debate one another, but we cannot tell the american people that one candidate is a fascist. And if he's elected, it is going to be the end of american democracy. Except here is vance's actual running mate saying exactly that to choice between communism and freed up. This is communist, this is marx's, this is fascist. There's a radical left marxists, communist fascist. She's a marxist she's a fascist comrade. Kamala harris comrade kamala harris if comrade kamala harris gets four more years, you will be living a full blown banana republic ruled by an anarchy and a tyranny test scum. They're scum and they want to take down country. They are absolute garbage all right, scott, so we should take the rhetoric down a notch correct? yeah, i think so. Including trump's, i think i think it would be great if everybody did. And i think it would be great if everybody who has been describing donald trump in terms of they add like biden and harris would say, you know what? we went too far and we didn't mean it, but they're not going to do that. And so yeah, i agree. I think every politician has a responsibility to cool it and take it down. And i think everybody should also look back on their own record and say, you know what, this wasn't great, and you all shouldn't believe me when i told you that trump was going to cause a bloodbath rip up the constitution, create a dictatorship because that was too much. So yeah, i think everybody should do that. Well, i mean, one of the things is that the idea that trump is exempt from this this no one's for ones exempt. The toning down i mean, j. D. Vance seems to not remember that his own running mate also called kamala harris, should be more precise. I totally agree with you, but there have been threats against other people just because they have not been realized. I mean, here's just a sampling of them all over the country, people have been arrested. One man was even killed in a confrontation with police over this. So the threats are on all sides of this and it is amazing that it's maybe it's not just j. D. Vance, but a lot of trump's surrogates are suggesting that democrats are solely responsible for the heightening of the rhetoric and completely forgetting that trump, i mean, we just played the clip. Listen, i would say is we sort of observe the last 24 hours with respect to the shooting, there has been a lot of victim shaming. Everybody's, you know, this is the only place where there's drama. Trump is the victim. It's okay to shell james him. He has been shot at once. There's been another assassination near attempt, and there were looked for the grace of the secret service getting ahead of it, we stopped another sat in a direct assassination attempt. The rhetoric gets hot. You have to remember when donald trump jumped into this race, he's probably the most insulted presidential candidate in american history. He has been called hitler. He he's been calling antisemitic. He's been called all he's things for sharing the same opinions that he had 20 years ago, but but he's not politically convenient to the democratic party. So yeah, he gets frustrated from time to time and the reading quiz hot, we probably do need to cool it a little bit. But there's no offramp. I mean, you see what let's look at what reed hastings says that he major democratic donor to the kamala harris and a democratic party the day before the first assassination attempt. Donald trump, reed hastings basic is that inaccurate? it's reid hoffman. Reid hoffman, very different person. Read it, basically said, hey, you know, we should have an if donald trump wants to be martyred, we should make him a martyr. There has been no criticism of that definitely take witnesses i watched i and i would add when i'm on this network, i come at this all the time. I get asked to condemn you know, any time somebody says anything inappropriate, very rarely do democrats get asked to condemn these things. I was on a number just after the first shooting, the tenth, where it brought up reid hoffman and the statements, you know, they very very quickly pivot away like, oh, it's no big deal. He is okay to say, but it's trump. Why don't people how it was okay accurate that is not what happened. It's maybe it convenient to you convenient. I criticized him a lot of everybody should agree to you don't see democrats who that is absolutely not true. I think they should keep his money i don't know. Should they keep money of elon musk asking for the murder of american president. Well, hold on. I mean, well, i guess we must just dip that he actually just did that. I mean, he needed the tweet but he didn't see what he said, well, you didn't why isn't anybody calling for biden and harris's assassination? i mean, yeah, that's basically what he tweeted. That happened. I mean, that's a joe let me just say that's a joke, but the other one is not when he was doing a figure of speech. This is, this is also i'm sorry to say stupid in terms of because what's happening actually is first of all, it's all propaganda. A lot of it is being done by foreign governments that are trying to create discord in this country. And it's working perfectly on people like you. It really is. And we should really start to focus in on where this is actually coming from and how we, every one of us is being manipulated by especially russia. But china and others. And if you look at the recent justice department investigation, it's very clear what they're up to, which is to create discord and anger within our country and allow us to attack each other but no one's ignoring what reid's said. That's just money that gave me feels like money from elon musk come to why is that i just think that we all should just be a little more honest and all of this right now. And i do think donald trump is a threat to democracy. And the way that i want to stop donald trump from being a threat to democracy is defeating him at the ballot box. Not by asking anyone to assassinate him. That is not how we win in politics and democracy. That is what makes this so fragile in this moment. But i never said that donald trump was going to be a dictator until donald trump said he would be a dictator on day one. I know you're just not what happened. No. It's not what happened, but you know what's not what happened. That's not what happened, but views, watching the words, i guess what i'm just saying like what happened, nor did the bloodbath thing happened. But i've never said the bloodbath, but every everybody thing is that we just saw him call his opponent of fascist, should he do that? to the call is appointed a fascist. Listen, i think any if you want my answer to be noting your answer has to be known that we do that fashion party has done more in the last five years or restrict speech than every receipt in my mind. My entire lifetime, i remember i was an aclu proud member in college, carrie, that card proud aclu memory because at some point they stood for free speech and now with social media coming aboard, everybody is like, no, we need to have restrictions to speech. So yeah, i do believe fascist again, do you believe there's fascist tendencies and the democratic party when they tried to restrict letter flops and literally you can literally, you can have it both to say, oh, democrats need to stop saying that trump's a threat to democracy and also to cry, restricting speech. I mean, isn't that literally what you're doing? i'm not retired maj restricting. I mean, if you're saying that democrats should own, can only talk a certain way about trump, isn't that risk? no, no, i'm not telling you to restrict your speech. I'm saying let's be clear what's happening there. Speeches triggering mentally ill people to take action. Is it that we've seen in one assassination attempt where a bullet fleming we've seen another person that either, i think that's dangerous yeah. I mean, i i evidence there saying that anybody sitting at by specific by speech shockingly to me that we still don't really have any answers about the pennsylvania guy, but the guy in florida, i mean, it's it's pretty pretty evident what was going on in this guy's pretty not evident. I mean i'm asking you what is the evidence thing is when you're talking when you're talking about the same things about him that well, what is the evidence that he it was motivated by democrats, rhetoric, by, by biden or harris is rhetoric. You want to give him a pass on it that's fine i just i just want to consistency at some point, right. Like we were on television the other day and i made some parallels to the buffalo shooting where when you look back at the shooter at the grocery store, that shot i africanamericans. There were direct ties to a manifesto when you look at el paso, there were direct ties to the shooting at walmart that connected words that donald trump said. So i'm not i don't want to say that like all republicans are responsible for that person shooting. But like if this person is, if you want to say the person in florida is guilty because of democrats didn't like but it never is the other person. It never is like the el paso shooting and donald trump takes so i just want there to be some consistency. I just asked you to say like maybe your candidate shouldn't call his opponent of fascism. And instead of just agreeing, we could have had a byproducts of moment. You flip flopped and you just like weaseled out of the question and so you can't have an honest dialogue blog and the american people call it, they're calling bs on candidates, on us as pundants. And so let's just be we're going to want to play by the same rules. Then let's play by the same rules. But i don't the other thing you were mentioning about restricting social media at how many laws do you think there are restrictions on tech companies? just love you to tell me hundreds zero 00. So we're all these laws that you just need to defer. Well, listen literally just said a lot of words, all of which were untrue. There are no laws restricting speech online. In fact, there's one law section 230. That allows them to get away with let me ask you let me. Go let me go to kara. Let me go to your social media component. Question. Is in 2020, 2020, what did twitter not restrict the hunter biden laptop story was was made mistakes. They made a mistake and then also as a mistake restrict free speech is what you're saying not a mistake. It's a mistake to make. A mistake is what it was and it wasn't a restriction. It was a fundamental mistake elon musk is doing right now. He cuts things off all the time when he feels like it it's just this is what needed is interesting though, that this is becoming, i mean, i'm going to just play this j. D vance might because he makes the argument that trump assassination attempt was a form of censorship. Listen i don't believe in censorship. I don't believe in trying to shut people up. I believe in debating people. They want to throw him in prison. They want to kick them off social media. They want to do everything that they can to silence donald trump and they send that signal with every action that they take well, if you're trying to silence donald trump and you're sending the message, we have to do everything that we can to silence donald trump, a crazy person is eventually going to take that message to heart that's taking things to a whole other level. First of all, the use of the word they recently has really gotten out of control. There's no date. Okay. He can be specific, but they is sortf a dog whistle to conspiracy theories absolutely know that's, that's where it begins and ends and conspiracy theories or sort of at the heart of this. And again, we are part of what's happening and which we do not realize and are being taken advantage of all these efforts by foreign bodies that are trying to create this within us. And we are so easily we are so easily manipulated by that. And it's really something that we have to do something about including these recent investigations. I want to agree with this family yesterday. I do believe foreign actors are engaged in trying to sow discord and it's several and i think it happened this weekend when everybody is sprang to blame trump and vance for these springfield hoaxes. And now we have the governor of ohio telling us it's foreign actors calling this and i totally agree it's happening all know that we'll see, but you just twisted something that's actually again, what they you didn't say it or not, whatever the governor ohio said, i'm not going to put him in it's an expert on foreign influence. I'm sorry. He's an expert on this public safety the state j. D. Vance literally said i made it up and that's what they did. They took something, they took a conspiracy theory story, a story of what's going on in springfield, ohio isn't, is it very promising he's literally saying that foreign actors are calling in bomb threats and others are trying to agree with you and you won't even take it, but i won't because take one step back. Okay. Perhaps what people even know where springfield, ohio was if j. D. Vance hadn't made up a rumor about haitian immigrants eating cats like can we we agree that used to live there and what you're front we even be talking about it, if he hadn't started and scott, i mean, isn't i mean, i think the point that i'm trying to make that part is much more important than whether or not the bomb threats were called in at 7yearold called anywhere in america where a foreign entity, i think entities are calling into towns in america and scrambling that is a major problem will be doing that if i start, i think i think i think foreign is to her point. I agree. I think for now, constantly stepped up scramble is i totally i mean they certainly are and i guess they're getting a lot of fodder in our politics these days. Everyone stick around for us coming up next. A remark by sarah huckabee sanders tonight about kamala harris is getting some liberals riled up listen so my kids keep me humble unfortunately, kamala harris doesn't have anything keeping her home walk through a notoriously gang infested part of el salvador's capital. And this area, especially very dangerous here. The past four years, this country has seen a radical transformation her son is in jail and he wasn't a gang he clearly was part of those were arrested we've actually met people who are now leaving the u. S. To return to their home country david culver and el salvador. And this is cnn a widely filter. It's welldesigned, efficient. I appreciate that lee filters technology keeps debris out of your gutters for good, guaranteed. What more c