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Welcome to the amine for our, heres where were headed this week this week, we examined power and all the ways it affects our lives. First, were going to compete with china were determined to do that. Todays big Power Conflict between china and the United States. My conversation with veteran diplomat us ambassador To Beijing Nicholas Burns, then people have always been interested and now theyre sort of worried. And concern about oh, no Luck Power unchecked power. And the fact that it might be coming for america, the writer who examined a man named Robert Moses who had the power to build and trample over new York Pulitzer prize winning Author Robert Kara joins me. Why 50 years on his seminal book is still flying off the shelves now its safe, you know, so people stay in the deadly Power Struggle in El Salvador between a Strongman President and the criminal gangs. And what it all means for the United States and then in our letter from london, he unleashed her as his secret Weapon Kingmaker from churchill to clinton an unsung power player, the incredible story of Ambassador Pamela harriman. And from my archive he gave us one Voice And Power power to negotiate women, sport. And of course, the legendary Billie Jean King 51 years after she beat Bobby Riggs and founded the wta everyone, im Christiane Amanpour in london. On this day in 1949, Chinese Communist leaders proclaimed the Peoples Republic of china 75 years ago. It was one of the worlds poorest countries today. Its the worlds second largest economy, second only to his great competitor, the United States of america which could also rivals militarily. China. Now challenges Americas Role as the worlds only superpower. It is also of course the battle of Ideas Democracy versus authoritarianism of the chinese leader xi jing ping. While Americas Strength lies with global alliances, china has a lock on the continent of africa, while also quoting pariahs like north korea, russia, iran tensions over taiwan and trade. Keep ratcheting upwards. And yet the issue of china has had little play in the Election Campaigns of Donald Trump and Kamala Harris Nicholas Burns knows a thing or two about tricky diplomacy with a lengthy career as an american diplomat serving six president s, nine secretaries of state. He was us ambassador so to nato on 911. And now hes ambassador To Beijing, a role that hes compared to being envoy to moscow at the height of the cold war. And he joined me from washington ambassador Nicholas Burns. Welcome to the program. Christiane, thank you very, very much. I want a Temperature Check of china and the United States because there was balloon gate, there were all these things, you know diplomacy came to a Screeching Halt for a while. And now its back. The latest arrival in beijing for talks with jake sullivan, national Security Advisor as a describe is it high tension or is there a bit of give . Is there a bit of thor christian, we have a very competitive relationship between the United States and china. We disagree on our Security Rivalry in the indopacific on technology, on Human Rights, Trade And Investment its been so we have to negotiate lots of different very important differences between the countries. I think thats systemic. I think thats with us to stay for many years to come. We do think that weve been able to stabilize our relationships somewhat because of the flurry of meetings that weve had. And frankly, our ability it creates some Communications Channels at a very high level. President biden and Xi Jinping secretary tony blinken, Secretary Janet yellen, both ben in china in recent months and you refer to jake sullivan, our national Security Advisor he and i had a series of meetings with the chinese leadership with President Xi with the foreign minister Wong Yi with the senior pla officer, general zhang youxia. And i think that builds in some predictability and an ability to communicate when Theres Tension and when theres disagreement that we did not have before. So i would say we have a relatively more stable relationship with china, but it remains a difficult well and competitive relationship. What about taiwan them because the issue of a wall is pretty much considered likely one over taiwan at this at this point has the temperature there, cool. Do you think that that issue is everybody understands Each Other or not . I dont think its cool weve seen a higher level of chinese air and naval activity in and around the taiwan strait. Since Speaker Pelosis Visit and that was more than two years ago. And so were continuously cautioning the chinese leadership about making sure that they do not use force to try to resolve the Cross Strait differences. We think that china should commit itself to a peaceful resolution of that Dispute And Front and thankfully, were not alone in this. Youve seen a very assertive position of the government of japan. The government of the philippines, the government of the republic of china ive korea, excuse me and also the European Leadership and members of the European Parliaments and national parliaments traveling to this part of the world to make that Point China asserts the right to use force. We dont think thats just and we dont think thats smart. And so were trying to do is two things convince china to resolve the Cross Crossstrait differences peacefully. And thats been the american position. Christiane going back to Richard Nixons Trip here in 1972, and obviously provide for a stronger deterrent in taiwan thats our legal obligation under the taiwan Relations Act and were doing both things at once. But i think frankly, there needs to be international pressure on china for a peaceful resolution of dispute. But let me ask you about the sort of more i guess ideological Core Competition as well. Its also about democracy and an open system versus a closed and more authoritarian system. But what do you think . What do you hearing from your chinese interlocutors about about whats happening in the United States where political violence is a matter of fact right now, to attempt to assassinations, violent language in Part Oblique obviously the chinese and the russians. Just salivating at the idea of damage to american democracy. What are they saying well, weve warned the chinese leadership in various specific, specific conversations not to interfere with our national election or our state elections, or county in town elections in the United States, were watching carefully to make sure that that does not happen a second part of the answer, christiane is, i think the chinese, at least in terms of what they say publicly have been somewhat restrained about involving themselves in our election. I think they know that theres there is a bipartisan consensus. There is large Scale Democrat and republican agreement on the need for us to have a very tough minded, competitive policy with china, but also on the Engagement Side to make sure that were talking to the chinese its about climate change. John podesta was just over in beijing with me two weeks ago. Our climate negotiator, were trying to work on the Fentanyl Crisis Crisis here in the United States and getting some help from the chinese government in doing that, we obviously want to work on global health issues together. So this is a relationship thats to incredibly complicated on the one hand, we have high competition between the two governments. On the other hand, where the two largest economies in the world, we have to work together on issues like climate. And i think Thats Part and parcel of what were doing with we the chinese are intensely interested in what happens in America On November 5 but were warning them not to get involved and not to cross a line. And thats a very serious warning indeed, i just one question. Follow up on the Climate Cooperation that youre trying to get why would President Biden then slapped tariffs on some think like Electric Vehicles and Solar Panels from china. If he wants to also push along americas and global climate priorities. The reason the president did that is because we learned a big lesson during the pandemic. We dont want no country should want to be reliant on a single source of supply and we need hed to build up in the United States and in other countries of the west our own capacity on lithium batteries, on Solar Panels, and Electric Vehicles. And so china is trying to dump these products unfairly and illegally below the cost of production on the rest of the world. And were not going to let a chunk a second. China shock to envelop the united States Economy and society. We lost more than 1 Million jobs in the 1990s, the early part of this century. And its not going to happen again. I think were well within our rights to take the actions that we have really interesting ambassador Nicholas Burns thank you for joining us, chris john. Thanks. Always a pleasure to be with you you. 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