How is it reasons because daddy was a beloved figure for a long time lz granderson. Thank you so much for joining. Great to hear second debate, the former president says, no. Political power. Couple, james Carville And Mary matalin join us for their take on the campaign plus the latest from Israel And Lebanon after the deadliest israeli airstrikes on hezbollah targets in a generation good evening, thanks for joining us. The former president is holding the second of two Events Today in Western Pennsylvania, his trip through the commonwealth shadowed by a mobile billboard for the Democratic National Committee reading, theres no debate. Donald trumps a chicken. The message alluding to his decision to opt out of a second debate with Vice President harris, the faceoff would err on october 23, cnn, again, shes already said yes and invited him to do the same time me on the Debate Stage lets have another debate. Is more to talk about him. Voters of america deserve to hear the conversations that i think we should be having on substance, on his shoes, on policy well, his answer of now is no. And heres how justified it shes done one debate. Ive done two. Its too late to do another. Id love to in many ways, but its too late. The voting is cast by that he means early voting, apparently though its hard to see why that would preclude debating again, the campaigning after all, good because on until Election Day doesnt stop when the early vote is cast. In any event, hes also again calling the legitimacy of the vote into question, posting this on Social Media quoting now, the democrats are talking about how theyre going, how theyre working so hard to get millions of votes for americans living overseas actually, theyre getting ready to cheat now hes referring seems to a program thats been around since the 1980s for getting Absentee Ballots to american Service Members and americans living overseas. That happens all the time. Quoting again from the post, hes saying without any evidence that it amounts to stealing our military votes a foreign president is also making news with his answer to this question if youre not successful this time, do you see yourself running again in four years no, i dont know. I dont i think that that will be that will be it. I dont see that at all. I think hopefully were going to be successful. Mr. President, thank you for the interview. I appreciate very much his tone there, notwithstanding new Polling Tonight from the New York Times and Siena College shows him competitive or better in three sunbelt states, leading the Vice President in arizona and ahead, but within the margin of error, meaning no clear leader in georgia and North Carolina. No clear leader either nationally in cnns latest poll of polls, which shows the Vice President ahead by three but its pulling Border Issue which could be factoring to a decision the Harris Campaign is just now weighing namely whether to go there late this week. Well have more on that shortly. New developments as well in the case of the republican who wants to be North Carolinas governor, but also once referred to himself as a black nazi on a pornography forum, where he also said hed like it if slavery was brought back and he would like to have some slaves Mark Robinson, thats his name over the weekend, several senior staff members of his quit. One of the States Republican us centers, Thom Tillis told cnn he would not be campaigning for him. And late today, republican senator and Vice President ial nominee, j. D. Vance, would not answer when pressed on whether the former president still supports the man he once called dr. Martin Luther King Junior on steroids as ive said, that is mark Robinsons Case to make to the people of North Carolina. Im not going to make it for them. And the people in North Carolina, they get to be the judges of whether they believe him or not. Its really that simple. Lets focus on the real issues that affect North Carolina so a lot to talk about, starting with cnns Priscilla Alvarez on that significant potential change to Vice President harriss campaign schedule. So what are you learning about this potential trip to the border well, anderson, some Campaign Officials remain concerned that the former President Donald Trump, as you laid out, is still leading on the issue of immigration and Border Security. But source this is telling me they also see an opportunity they think that they can start to close that gap. And so they are weighing a potential visit to the u. S. Mexico border when she is slated to visit arizona on friday. Now, of course, the Vice President has visited the border as Vice President , shes also done so as California Senator and Attorney General and sources tell me that no final decision has been made yet on this potential stop, but it is certainly significant because it is telling of the campaign see in the issue of Border Security continuing to crop up as a top issue among voters. And if she were to go, she would go at a time when Border Crossings our low the lowest theyve been since 2020. Of course, the administration has been citing Executive Action over the summer for the plummeting of those Border Crossings. And it would give her the opportunity to talk about that in battleground, arizona, where again, as you mentioned, former President Donald Trump continues to hold a lead in those polls. So this itd be a notable stop if she were to make it still significant though, that shes going to arizona when the polling is so tight. So alvarez, thanks. Cnns Danny Freeman is at the Trump Event in the western Pennsylvania Town of indiana. So what was formed president s message to pennsylvania Voters Today . Simpson, The View when it comes to former President Trumps trip to Western Pennsylvania was the economy, the economy, the Comedy Photo comes to this particular rally. He only started speaking maybe a little over ten minutes ago and at times he has spoken about inflation, yes. Afghanistan other issues that he and the campaign of trying to drill down against Vice President harris. However, he has talked about a leak last debate that he had with Vice President harris are complaining about how the moderators treated me also said that Vice President harris, He Felt was terrible at the debate. He also criticized Vice President parents is interview with oprah that took place in the past few days as well. Noting that he and oprah used to be close, but earlier in the day former President Trump actually made a rare off the record stop when it comes to a Grocery Store you actually paid for a womans groceries at the store in front of cameras. Really making it an opportunity to comment on the state of inflation in this particular country at this moment before that, he also held a roundtable with farmers and he was using that opportunity to talk about his ambitious tariff plans at one point actually threatening but the company, john deere, saying that he would put 200 tariffs on quote, everything that you want to sell into the united states. If the company moves production to mexico. So well see if he continues on that economic Message Tonight so far at this rally in indiana anderson, and theres another Trump Campaign Event that will take place in pennsylvania, right . Yeah, thats right. Anderson, our own alayna treene, she actually confirmed earlier this evening that we now know former President Trump intends to go back to butler, pennsylvania on October 5. We knew that he had been planning to go back to butler since he was shot at that rally back in july, but we didnt know specifically details. Now, learning hes going back there on October 5th and ill just note anderson that particular event is particularly important to a lot of trumps supporters here in pennsylvania. Ive spoken to them. Many folks who have said to me that theyve actually determined they wanted to volunteers step up and actually help out the campaign specifically because they were potentially at that rally in butler, pennsylvania. It has been galvanizing, especially for trumps supporters here in Western Pennsylvania anderson, Danny Freeman, thanks very much on the stand was ashley etienne, Vice President harris is former Communications Director cnn, senior Data Reporter harry harry enten, also republican strategist, Doug Heye and ana navarro. And is a harris supporter. So lets talk about the polling, the ellipse, all looks good for trump. It looks good for trump. And i think its part of a larger trend. Last week we were discussing those great Lake Battleground states, michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin those polls looked good for Kamala Harris indeed, if you take an average across those three states, Kamala Harris has a small advantage at two point advantage, you look across those sunbelt battleground states. So i think there are a lot of democrats and old these polls are too good for trump, blah, blah, blah. The Bottom Line is, even when you average across all the polls, not just polls that come out today, you look across those sunbelt battleground states, georgia, arizona, North Carolina, on average, donald ill trump is ahead by a point and a half. And i think that speaks to a larger issue that the Harris Campaign has, which is she seems to be doing worse than Joe Biden did four years ago in states in which the democratic coalition is highly reliant on voters of color. So in North Carolina and georgia, that would be africanamericans out in arizona, that would be hispanics. She is behind his pace on with those particular shes holding her own with white voters. And i think thats enlarged part why she is holding her own in the Great Lakes up and michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin, because the democratic coalition is whiter, you were saying with black is a Black Man or black women. Its black men in particular who shes struggling with. Shes also particularly struggling among younger black voters. This is something that weve seen in the polling, which is that among young voters overall. Yes, she is doing better than Joe Biden was at the beginning of the year, right . Just before Joe Biden dropped out of the race. But shes doing significantly worse than Joe Biden did four years ago. So its a very interesting sort of different coalition, one in which the electoral map at this point is still at least a little bit undetermined. Ashley, why do you think she is not doing well . With those groups that harry was talking about well, i can think its actually still quite early. I mean, the polls are a little all over the place. I always caution overinvesting polls, especially at this time because there was never a poll that showed in 2016 that Donald Trump was going to win. But in addition to that, what youre really looking at it this stage is the trend line. She continues to trend up, close the gap with many of these key constituencies and Donald Trump remains flat. In fact, hes still at 50 unfavorables. I mean, thats incredibly high. So i think theres still a lot of opportunities. Opportunities for the Vice President , but shes got shes got a lot of room to make up for a lot of room to grow, but shes got to accelerate the pace. Doug, i mean, as the now the republican governors association, they pull financial support from Mark Robinson in North Carolinas several senior staffers, staffers have stepped down obviously, i mean, hes got nothing else to do so. I assume hes just going to stay in the race, but does is this thing i mean, is it over for him i think the race was probably over before thursdays revelations. Certainly after the kfile revelations on thursday, the race went from not being on Life Support to being officially declared dead. And i think there are two reasons for that. One is you know, what the staffers at left . You were not really on the 800m if you were looking at the Mark Robinson campaign, there were a lot of very smart professional people who decided to stay away because they knew, they knew there was trouble coming and Whomever Robinson is able to bring on if anybody now wouldnt be the 800m, theyd probably be the q, R Or S team. And it doesnt matter because the race is over. What does matter is whether not this is going to have an impact on the president ial race. And it certainly will have an impact down ballot for the counsel of states. And theres a targeted Congressional Seat in North Carolina, one as well. Thats why north carolinians are nervous. Its why republicans in washington are nervous. Theyve had to concede a gubernatorial seat. Bad enough, but this could have much bigger implications first Lady Milan i need to trump has been pretty much out of The Public Eye for most of this campaign. Obviously, she showed up briefly at the republican convention. She didnt speak there she did speak at two political fundraisers for the Log Cabin republicans, which is a gay group. Its been disclosed now that she was paid more than 200 37,000 for just one of those events. And what sort of unusual as the president of the Log Cabin told cnn earlier this month that the group did not put up the money for her to speak and the Disclosure Form did not give any more information about the source of the payment didnt say whether or not he knew about the money, but as far as i know, i mean, does it does it make sense . I mean, why is she understand . Theres a lot of grift in this family, but what why is she receiving this money . Shes the former First Lady you would think theres some things she might do for a larger issue other than just getting paid married to Donald Trump . Im not sure i blame her for trying to get as much money as she can for putting up with him and pretended to be Part And Parcel of this. Look, shes obviously a full participant in the trump family grift. Just this in the last few days, we have heard heard about Donald Trump selling crypto Donald Trump selling collectible coins. Melania trump, with this memoir book, which is about this thick and now shes selling Christmas Ornaments for 90 each cheap Christmas Ornaments were 90 each. Its really i find that incredibly tacky and unsee because the people that they are preying on. And when i say they, i mean, trumps writ large because theyre all into this grift or the poor people are their supporters, their followers, who they are using to pay for their luxuries and to pay for their money. But it is tacky that supposedly people who have this much money are out there turning maralago and turning this campaign until the home shopping network. It is frankly tacky harry, just in terms of the numbers. I mean, if this polling holds up, i mean, do you think it is early to ashleys point . I mean, i think republicans thought it was early last week when those polls up in the Great Lakes, were looking good for Kamala Harris. I think there are a lot of democrats who might argue it looks early now, look, we still have, you know, well over a month ago. Yes. Things could definitely change at this particular point going forward, but the Bottom Line is this has been one of the steady as racist on record, right . If you were to ask me a month ago, who was ahead in the national polls, i would have said Kamala Harris was slightly ahead. I wouldve said she was slightly ahead in those great Lake Battleground polls, but the Bottom Line is this Race Anderson its the closest that ive ever seen. And you can see it so well on the electoral map, right . Lets just say that we believe the polling for a second and say were going to assign each of the states to the person who is the polling leader, even at the lead, is very, very small. What do we get . We get Kamala Harris with 276 electoral votes to Donald Trumps 262. That would be the closest race hey, since 2000, right . In terms of the electoral college. And of course that map is because Kamala Harris holds in those great Lake Battleground states, while Donald Trump does well along the sunbelt, but heres the thing to keep in mind. If you were to look at this map right now and apply the errors, the Polling Errors that occurred in 2020, right . When the polling underestimated Donald Trump, hed win in all of those Swing States, right . Hed win in those great Lake Battleground states, for example. But if you were apply the error that occurred in 2022 when the polling actually underestimated democrats Kamala Harris would win and all those Swing States, thats what were talking about. Were told that thats what youre showing that poll right there is that poll. That poll, that map, that map. That map is if the polls are exactly correct and what im telling you anderson, is the polling is rarely exactly correct. We have a margin of error. Its there for a reason and the Bottom Line is at this particular point, either candidate cohen, this election rather recently, actually, do you think next weeks Vice President ial debate matters much for either, i mean, for either candidate for either irs saad i definitely actually do. I believe that walz is on the ticket because hes going to enable are sort of engage voters that are those disaffected republican voters, independent voters democrats that lean more right . I mean, thats his primary job on this ticket, is to engage those folks, get them activated, get them galvanized and excited about this ticket. So hes got to actually achieve that while at the same time undermining j. D. Vance and confidence in him, which hes already done himself. So theres not a whole lot of work that he is due there, but i definitely think that he he is bridging this cultural divide with these reporters that i mean, excuse me, with these voters that democrats have had Trouble Turning out in the last two election cycles. So thats his primary job, and thats going to be his primary audience. So yes, it actually it does matter and i just want to play something that the foreign president said it as Rally Tonight about what would happen if harris wins the election i mean, somebody i heard the other day, pretty smart person. And you think about it and it could be true. They said we dont win this election. That may never be another election in this country could happen how do you interpret that i mean, i budweiser is he quoting himself bec