Candidate for North Carolina Governor has just lost a big Names Supporter over disturbing comments that he wants made on a Porn Site. And were seeing tonight for the first time the chilling words of the suspect and that second Assassination Attempt of Donald Trump on the golf course. Im kaitlan collins, and this is the source Donald Trump is on the Campaign Trail and Pennsylvania Tonight delivering a mixed message about early voting to his supporters. Just six weeks out from Election Day from that Stage Tonight, the former president encouraged pennsylvanians to get out and vote early in one breath. Then pushed baseless conspiracies about doing so moments later early voting begins in pennsylvania over the next two weeks. And we need each and every one of you to go out. Just dont take anything for granted. We got to get out and vote. You can start right away. You know that right now we have this stupid stuff where you can vote 45 days early i wonder what the hell happens during that 45 lets move the cheeleys votes. Youve got about 1 Million votes in electrical than were fixing the Air Conditioner in the room, right . Now, its tara, but what happened to last time . And was disgraceful, including right here. But were not going to let it happen again to, you know, too big to rig right talk about whiplash for those in the audience tonight. Trump went after the Vice President on that campaign Stage Tonight for promises that shes made out on the trail and that comes as he has continued to resist her challenge to meet the him on the Debate Stage for at least One More Time before november 5, harris has been arguing theres a lot more for those two to talk about after she formally accepted cnns invite for a second showdown. Exactly one month from today on October 23, for now, trump says he wont meet her on the Debate Stage because you guessed it. Early voting the problem with another debate is that its just too late voting has already started. Id love to, in many ways, but its too late no i, should know. We did not hear trump make that argument about debates when early voting was underway during his first two president ial bids. The final debate in 2016 between trump and Hillary Clinton was held on october 19, the final one of 2020 between Trump And President biden, october 22, that was 12 days before that election. Theyll trumps advisors are telling me that for now, it does not seem like hes going to change his mind on meeting harris on the Debate Stage again. Though they acknowledged based on comments like these, its ultimately up to trump himself. I just dont know that we will think so because weve done two debates and because they were successful, there will be no third debate. I did great with the debates and i think theyve answered everything but maybe if i got in the right mood, i dont know my Sources Tonight are top political insiders, former Harris CommunicationsDirector And Jamal simmons, former trump white house communications director, alyssa farah griffin, and cnns chief media analyst, brian stelter. Alyssa i should note it was republicans in pennsylvania who passed these early voting balls that trump is now complaining about what that looks like, but thats certainly not what weve been hearing from. His daughterinlaw, who is the rnc cochair, who was saying, yes, we do want people to early vote. This goes back. Its giving me 2020 whiplash when his campaign was wanting him to promote early Voting Mailin Voting as well during the pandemic. And then he would cast out on it its the same thing. Hes got something intellectually he cannot accept the fact that you can vote early. It can be safe, it can be tabulated. He just has this very sort of arcane way of looking at it but theres also the secondary thing that comes with trump, which is he wants to preemptively cast doubt on the results in case he loses, hes incapable of losing and accepting that he lost so hes done that in a number of waves just as he did in 2020, we heard him blaming jewish leaders. He had a dig at catholics. He cast doubt on The System. So its twofold. He genuinely does not in my understanding, trust early voting, but he also wants to have something to blame if he loses a lot of other republicans have been critical of what hes, his mixed messages on this because they want it to help them help them in a critical Senate Race thats happening in pennsylvania. And jamal, senator j. D. Vance, his Running Mate was also talking about early voting when he was on the stage in North Carolina tonight, listen to what he had to say about this this country has gone from Election Day to election season, but it is what it is. And we got to play by the rules that are set. So use early voting, used mailin voting, us voting on Election Day, whatever you can to get out there and make sure that if 100 people plan to vote for Donald Trump, 100 people actually get out there and do vote for donald i mean, if youre a republican voter, its not totally clear what they want you to do here. Its not except for the leader of the party is telling you that he doesnt particularly invest in this process. Right . Heres his party is investing a lot of early voting absolutely. And remember, weve all lived through i mean, remember georgia, those Georgia Senate elections, which probably got skunk too because Donald Trump went down there, didnt skunk them heres whats happening to me. Hes not playing when the actual game. Hes playing to get to over time, believing he can work the refs and then try to win it. There. So whats happening is this is all about just getting the vote close enough that when they get to the day after Election Day, all that legal process, the lawyers, theyve got the 150 or so lawyers, they putting him 15 Battleground States whose job it is. The challenge votes at the Voting Site to challenge votes in the electoral in the Board Election Board process, and then collect evidence for lawsuit this is what this is all about. Its not actually about winning the game well, we know they challenged it last time. Obviously we saw all the lawsuits dozens of them that were thrown up by courts thats a great question that jamal poses there, which is, is this going to be are they going to be better challenging the election this time, if, if its closed it doesnt go the weather. I think they are much better prepared now, ive talked to Democrats Inside Super Pacs were preparing for this possibility, who are already in september preparing for november, assuming that this is going to happen, right . They are also laying the groundwork. It maybe its a little bit of mutually assured destruction that both sides are planning for this. But, but i think youre right to call this out and we in media need to point out that its happening as its happening, so that people are not surprised in november. So people are not caught and caught off guard in some of the documents that weve seen from 2020 that only came out earlier this Year And Litigation and wisconsin, one of the trump allies described this strategy has been thusly to create a cloud of Confusion It wasnt about winning or losing was about cranes, so much confusion that no one would know what happened. Here. Thats whats happening now, they could argue, well, were litigating this in court, so i mean, this is what trump wanted. The doj to do. And Bill Barr to do in 2020, which was just to say that they were doing something and then Leo Jeff Clark wanted they were trying to get him to do this to say there was something theyre so they could point to something so the lawmakers on Capitol Hill could have something to talk. So theres something there, even though its not legitimate and thats why perhaps weve already seen some lawsuits filed ahead of time challenging certain early voting rules. Yes. Is also why Donald Trump, by the way, played heavily and Secretary Of State races and even in State House races, which are president traditionally wouldnt really put his finger on. But those are avenues that he can challenge the election results. So he, as he talked to the michigan representatives in 2020, he wants to have allies there so that he can try to challenge it. If you were to lose. Will change the rules in as many places as possible, like georgia change the rules so that they can make it as difficult as possible as much of a mess as possible. So an account of every Vote And State thats insane, which is going is not been as accurate when they initially do it, it may require another Hand Count that its going to take days. This is not something that happens immediately when you got millions of votes on the table. Yeah, its a good point and this all comes as were debating over debates and whether or not there is going to be another showdown. I want to get your take on why harris wants another debate so bad, but, but bryan, on just trump himself. Ive talked to a bunch of his allies and advisers who say, right now, were not doing any more debates. Were standing by what he said. No more debates do you think that trump though, can resist . 70 Million viewers two weeks before the election if its as close as the numbers were looking at today, show us know that thats why this is a very live possibility. Cnn had been working behind the scenes for weeks, trying to get to the point where on saturday, Kamala Harris said yes. And Challenge Trump to say yes. And both campaigns received a letter, a threepage letter, offering this debate you know, i noticed that trump said, yeah, its too late, but he also said, Id Love to do it, but that was the more interesting part of his colon saturday, Id Love to debate. Its just too late historically, its not too late. The final debates in 2016 and 2020 were basically around the same time as cnns offering October 23 this year i think he will. I mean, theres a very real chance he will agree for two reasons. One the ratings, as you said, huge audience that he can reach a number two is he really going to let j. D. Vance have the last word . Does he trust his Running Mate to have the last word . The debates, theres one more debate. October 1, the Vp Debate coming Up Next week. Right now, thats the only debate scheduled i dont believe that Donald Trump, once j. D. Vance to have the last word on the Debate Stage. And lets say, i mean, you worked for trump what do you i am im incredibly bullish. There will be another president ial debate. I think he, if he sees any internal polling, is that even look tight . You cannot turn down the option to have 70 Million eyeballs glued to you. And i will say he performed substantially better in the second 2020 debate than he did the first one. Some would argue he really helped luiz in the standby stand back one, but he was more ready and i think listen, trumps not even as sharp as he was in 2020, theres a case that he could actually do better in the second issue, i want to go back to the Scene Of The Crime is cnns offer in this debate in atlanta, the same place where trump defeated biden. Yeah. So theres something about that. I think emotionally and he, you know, he regrets that because does it push biden out of the race and lets she was running against President Biden jamal from the harris perspective, what does she get out on . A second debate . Because she had a strong performance. People werent sure how she would do is there risk and a Reward Factor here for her . Yes, some people would argue, take the money and run, right. Like you won the last time. Do i take it take those benefits and keep going . I think the campaign is showing, first of all, a lot of confidence because are going after Donald Trump on this very question, and theyre even taunting him a little bit. This is one of the reasons you get them to do it, is because theyre basically calling him a chicken. And i dont know Donald Trumps going to be able to withstand six weeks of being called the chicken. So many animal weve. Got sport to get animals were going to do the whole thing, to no, i think but i think what theyre doing is something thats a lot of confidence they want to show that they believe this candidate can do wish needs to do in a debate and it doesnt matter if as alyssa says, shes not wrong, simply the person who is the incumbent and Donald Trump up in this case is looking like the incumbent. Thats better in the second debate than they do in the first debate. So even the danger, the danger for the campaign is that of Donald Trump lances a good blow, if he just said one good thing, they hope he can go out and talk about who tried to turn that into a moment. But the bigger danger is Donald Trump cant do it. And that she looks in stronger as voters are looking to get one more Touch And Feel of her, they want to see her One More Time, a little scratch and sniff, make sure that shes actually the person that they want and they can move for her on alexey, 8 of voters who want to know more about or thats a prime opportunity to do it, right . But trump would also have that moment because those, those people who are not early voting, who are tuning in and the people who have not yet cast their ballots potentially want to see what trump has to say. And of course, it was his Campaign Manager who was walking around business cards. It said, anywhere any time place about about debates. But also i want to ask you because we hear a lot from trump, but he was criticizing her tonight for reversing her her policy on fracking we hear from trump on his economic policy. Hes been talking about tariffs that he wants to impose if he wins a second election and hes been saying he doesnt feel like he needs to go to congress today. He was sitting in front of two John Deere tractors when he said this about the company moving some of its manufacturing to mexico i just notice behind me John Deere tractors, i know a lot about John Deere. I love the company, but as you know, theyve announced a few days ago that theyre going to move a lot of their Manufacturing Business to mexico. Im just notifying John Deere right now if you do that, were putting a 200 tariff on everything that you want to sell into the united states i mean somewhere Paul Ryan is rolling over. I mean, hes not hes still with us, but its Theres Nothing about that. Thats conservative economically. Its also just terrible policy to threaten a beloved company with a strong Brand Name and a huge population of workers in the country that youre going to penalize them if they loot, i leave the country. Of course, a better response would be were going to make the Country Additions better here that youre not going to want to leave his message in 2016 and to some degree, 2020 was onshoring american jobs rebuilding manufacturing, investing in the american worker. Now its something very different. Its retaliatory, its about sticking it to china, but not thinking about the cost of that fall to consumers. Hes not running as a republican. I cannot point this out enough not owner of a John Deere tractor and my barn that sounds like a strong man. That sounds like a strong man. Not republican or democrat, but it seems like the two things he believes in tariffs and antiimmigration, those two things hes been consistent about. Oh, weve got to good morning. You want to come over drive a lot of John Deere feels Duty Plowi