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CNN The Lead With Jake Tapper September 25, 2024

Might see some new evidence in this case before Election Day, because here, Judge Chutkin is allowing prosecutors to submit hundreds of pages of evidence and arguments that they have gathered against former President Trump related to efforts to subvert the 2020 election. And the reason shes allowing this is because she believes the Supreme Court it has issued her a task and that is to look through the allegations here. And the evidence and determine which portions of this case maybe immune from prosecution under their ruling granting former President Trump, but other president s partial immunity for official acts. So this could potentially be filed on thursday. It will be filed under seal so its possible that she could release this at some point before the election. But of course, jake, if trump is reelected, both of smiths cases will be dismissed. And paul, as you know, there are lots of other legal threads to the election. This afternoon. For example, theres A Critical hearing in mississippi where the Republican Party is arguing to block any ballots received by mail after Election Day, even if they were postmarked before Election Day, why are they doing that and could this case have an impact beyond mississippi . The goal is for this case to have an impact far beyond bright red mississippi. Now, the point of this case was to bring this issue, this question of whether ballots that are around life after Election Day. If those are in violation of federal law, that is an argument that the rnc has been making in this case. They lost at the trial court, but then they appealed up to the Fifth Circuit the panel that they drew three trump appointed justices. This was really a Dream Panel for them. But arguments earlier today, jake just really did not go their way. Appears that this panel may be leaning against their arguments. Now, if the rnc loses before the election, its fully expected. Therell try to appeal up to the Supreme Court but the goal is to try to get a ruling in their favor because again, this isnt about mississippi sippy. This is about the approximately 20 other states in jurisdictions that have similar policies, including some key Battleground States and Sara Murray we know and we should start saying this probably every day is a really good chance. Were not going to know the winner on election night. Explain to our viewers why and how both the democratic and republican parties are gearing up for Court Fights after Election Day. Well, jake, first of all, this is looking like an exceedingly close race, but there are also states that could have made the process of counting the ballots faster in the last four years in the state legislatures didnt act so they didnt do so in two of those dates are important battleground, pennsylvania and wisconsin, where election Workers Cant even begin processing mailin ballots until 7 00 a. M. On Election Day. So that means workers there are going to be grappling with tallying the bank alex, to come in on Election Day and also telling all of these early ballots that came through vote by mail. And it just takes time again to count all of these ballots to ensure its an accurate count, and to figure out who the winner is when its a very close Race And Everyone is sort of looking at whats happening around Election Day and warning people to be patient because we may not know for a couple well of days, who wins the president ial race and even when we do have a notion of who the winner is, we are still expecting to see an avalanche of additional litigation. Were expecting to see challenges to certification and how that process plays out. We could still see challenges, two different buckets of ballots as paula was talking about, these could be ballots that come in after election these could be ballots that folks allege have been cast by people that they dont believe are citizens of the United O Be In Court Slugging this out even after alexei, jake. All right. Sara murray, paula reid. Thanks so much also on our politics lead today, a new headache for republicans on capitol but all heal The New York Times is reporting that new York Republican Congressman Anthony Desposito gave both his lover and his Fiances Daughter parttime jobs in his district office, which is located on long island. The house is Code Of Conduct forbids members of congress from employing close family members. And i think Fiances Daughter and a lover might qualify House Speaker Mike Johnson stood by desposito when questioned about this earlier today this morning, come out with a statement its that its the allegations are untrue. Its a partisan Hit Piece that would not surprise anyone and a tight Election Cycle in a seat thats the hotly contested cnn chief congressional correspondent, Manu Raju joins us now, live from capitol hill. Manu, Congressman Desposito is already one of the most endangered house republicans yeah no question about in fact, he this is a district that Joe Biden carried in 2020 by 14 andahalf point. So it shows you how this is central to the democratic effort. To take back the house majority. But in this report detailing that, Congressman Desposito either violated house Ethics Rules or walked, right up to him. It says, according to the Ethics Rules, you are prohibited from him boeing spouses or relatives, including stepchildren. Now this is one of the people that he reportedly employed was his Fiances Daughter also, theres a provision in the Ethics Code saying that lawmakers cannot engage in a sexual relationship with an employee of the house who is supervised by that member. And this or it suggests that he indeed did employ this lover as part of this effort. Now when he was questioned about this today by both me and other reporters Porters Desposito didnt want to answer many questions about it, but he did deny the story. Listen is it true that you had whats your Fiances Daughter and your lover, is that true . Absolutely not youre denying all everything in the report you didnt hire these people to put on your payroll . There was nothing done. That was not ethical are you going to coop . Would you cooperate with an Ethics Investigation you talked to the speaker about this anything to say to reassure voters will, you continue to run her race 24 hours for him to issue that denial. Jake, in fact, initially, he did not deny the report when it came out in The New York Times and then yet Last Night when he was asked by our colleague Haley Talbot for about a couple of minutes walking down the sidewalks of the capitol. He was on his phone the whole time would not answer any questions about this ultimately, he put out a statement late Last Night that also did not deny that its just simply attacked The New York Times is reporting without an outright denial, there was a firsttime the issue that outright denial and dig its also notable because desposito is one of the more Access Symbol members typically of congress clearly not wanting to talk to reporters about any of this. And even some of his colleagues, including one of his close colleagues, a fellow new York Republican Freshmen Nikola the client did comment about this when i asked him earlier today. So undoubtedly putting the republicans in a difficult spot in a race that they absolutely need to hold as part of this effort to keep no new York Republicans in their houses, to keep the Gop Majority putting this congressman is difficult spot raising questions about ethical violations in his own office all right Manu Raju on capitol hill. Thanks so much. Lets bring in Dana Milbank an Opinion Columnist for the washington post, author of the brand new book, Fools On The Hill, the hooligans, saboteurs, conspiracy theorists, and dunces, who burned down the house right before republicans narrowly took control of the house following the 2020 midterm elections, dana, you decided to exclusively we cover the house of representatives for your column and this book as a result, first of all, gorgeous Barry Blood Cover beautiful cartoon of matt gaetz, marjorie taylor greene, and the rest. It reads like an annotated transcript of dysfunction from casket, very colorful characters. That you didnt obviously have the lead time to get Anthony Despositos latest the allegations against him in your book. But as an Old Washington hand, ive known you now for i dont even know quartercentury, maybe more that. How would you, how would you assess his response to this scandal in terms of what he just did sort of cheap with a phone walking. That was typically what they do in these cases, but you know, in the earlier days when we were covering washington, this would have been career ending, but of course this is just another theyre day that ends in y. I think the greatest irony and they desposito thing is, he was the main guy pushing out santos, right . For ethics violations. And so what did we have Last Night . We had santos online issuing an obscene tweet about desposito. So its all sort of delicious, but of course, theres sticking by him for the same reason leaderships by santos right here, even to the very day they were expelling him from the house. Leadership stuck with him because they absolutely need the vote. You had Nancy Pelosi in here just now. She had an identical virtually Majority Miranda and made it look easy. These Kise Cant get the most basic things done. Theyve been the most dysfunctional, least productive congress since 18, 60. Now thats even slightly earlier than when we started covering politics around the same time what i mean, how would you react if you, if you how would you advise desposito if this is all just a partisan hit job, none of its true. Its completely false. How would you react to a story like this about you, or how would you advise a friend going through it . Because i dont think that would be that behavior would be walking around like he looked like he was acting like a guilty he did he did look a wee bit guilty there, but i think the way you respond now is im aiming. Trump has taught us this and santos followed the same thing. Its their fault, the media is out to get me the Party Establishment, never mind that Hes Part of the Party Establishment is out to get me or the leadership is out to get me. Its all disinformation and lies and lo and behold, the Party Leadership is going to have to rally behind you as theyve had to done over and over again. I mean, come on, weve had fistfights and the basement. Weve had people talking about Alien Space lizards investigating the Deep State for being involved with mussolini and ufos. I mean, its all just bonkers stuff, but they have to stick with cnn, not even a week ago. You broke the story about Lieutenant Governor Mark robinson of North Carolina, who is the Governor Cant give republican candidate for governor. There logging on onto a website called what was a nude Africa Or Something like that . A Porn Site was leaving good leaving comments if you wonder who is the kind of person who leaves comments on a Porn Site. Now you have an answer. Anyway we caught up with ted budd, Republican Senator Ted budd, who said that despite these allegations, that a lot of people seem to believe hes still going to vote for robinson for governor. Take a listen. Ive had conversations with him. Again, theyre very disturbing. Its up 40 some days. Ive had conversations with him. Again, theyre very disturbing, but its up to him to prove in North Carolina voter. So the next 40 some days and then offcamera, he said, im going to always vote for republicans because we have the best platform. Shame is dead, jake, i mean, were seeing this over and over again, called himself a black nazi. I should, i should write. Thats quite important too. Yeah, i mean, were seeing this happened day after day. Shame being dead and on the one hand, its funny on the other hand you know, look at what, whats actually happening here. I mean, ive written about this house majority, majority of them have voted to keep confederate names on military basis, to abolish the Education Department there on record supporting a nationwide Ban Count on abortion. Youve got all kinds of from Speaker Johnson on down supporting the racist great replacement theory. Its all Fun And Games unless Speaker Johnson is in power with Donald Trump and suddenly all these Poison Pills that we talk about become actual possibilities of being law. So he Mike Johnson, the speaker of the house, has been speaker for 11 months during that time, hes had to repeatedly rely on democrats to keep the Government Funding going you open the book with a quote from him. He says, quote, i spent half my day as speaker of the house. And the other half as a Mental Health counselor. I assumed that that is a reference to some of his members who are a little out there, right . To the crazy caucus as John Boehner used to call them the difference now really, John Boehner, paul ryan, there were still i mean, they were rolled by the likes of the House Freedom Caucus yes they were always on the defensive, but there were still some some substantial core there that of grownups that could fight back against it. The problem now is the lunatics are running the asylum. There are no grownups, clearly, Mike Johnson cant keep the lunatics, but you dont think hes a lunatic, you think hes just having trouble right now . No. I mean, the actual number of lunatics, i mean, if you want to take it as a proxy for the House Freedom Caucus. Okay, so may were talking about 40 but twothirds of the caucus voted to overturn the election even after the January 6 insurrection. So at some point, it doesnt matter where their actual lunatics or whether theyre sensible people who are just afraid to contradict the lunatics and go along with it. Dana milbank, always good to see you. Thank you so much. The book is out now. Its called Fools On The Hill again Saboteurs Conspiracy theorists and dunces who burned down the house. I dont get it. I dont get the chance to say saboteurs enough. Data. 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