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CNN Anderson Cooper 360 September 25, 2024

Tonight on 360, the former president campaigns on the economy, but once again ends up questioning the future of democracy if he loses as new cnn polling shows his strength and weakness just six weeks out from election day. Also, what that new polling says about vice president harris and the economy. Cnn's john king breaks it down for us and his report from battleground, georgia and have communities of color see the vice president and how they plan to vote good evening, thanks for joining us sixweek in the presidential election. New cnn polling says, it is close and what people told the pollsters about the economy and other issues could say more than that. Vice president harris was not on the campaign trail today or yesterday. Her opponent was talking today in georgia about his plans for the economy, but also throwing out lots of red me including this about haitians living in springfield, ohio you have to move the people back to the country from which they came you have haitians are byinlarge in springfield lawfully and i was a gary tuchman reported last night, many now say they are are afraid do you feel safe for your family and this community? absolutely not nobody knows what's going to happen. Leader when gary's. Report aired last night, the foreign president was actually speaking at a rally in western pennsylvania where he said this do you think springfield will ever be the same? i don't think the fact is and i'll say it now. You have to get them the hell out gaffe to get them out. I'm sorry good, haven't it? chanting the former president has also been talking to are about women and not surprisingly, perhaps some of it has been just kind of odd last night. For instance, he told women, this is what would happen if he's elected you will no longer be abandoned, lonely, or scared you will no longer be in danger. You're not going to be endanger any longer. You will no longer have anxiety from all of the problems our country has today. You will be protected and i will be your protector. Women women will be happy healthy confident, and free longer be thinking about abortion liable by a federal jury for sexually abusing a woman will be the protector of all women and they will no longer be thinking about abortion even perhaps the childless ones with cats despite criticism from trump about kamala harris calling trump a threat parts of democracy last night and again today, he once again said she is probably going to end our democracy said the other day if she won, you literally may never have another election. This could be your last election by the way, the somebody he's talking about is i think himself, i think he's quoting himself because he's repeatedly said we won't have a country anymore if he isn't elected. So he's saying somebody said that it was him. I know you've heard all this before because he said it all before and perhaps it loses its strangeness. But it does have an impact. The repetition it sticks and lies about the 2020 election are impacted i think this one, house speaker mike johnson today with just six weeks left to election day, said this when asked whether he'd certify a kamala harris victory, should she win course, if we have a free, fair and safe election, we're going to follow the constitution absolutely. Yes, absolutely. Yes, absolutely. But also a big if because the last election was free, fair, and safe, and there's an awful lot of republicans who don't believe that so why would they believe this one will be as well joining us now, two former trump administration officials about an hour's and cnn political commentator alyssa farah griffin, also, cnn political commentators, jamal simmons and david axelrod i think just does the stuff about women is, i mean, does it strike you as odd? i started i started laughing and thinking it was creepy, but then thinking more about it. It's very infantilizing, talking about women as though we're week, we're meek, we need to protect her. We needed defender and we just sit around thinking about abortions all day. Underscores a fundamental lack of understanding for why a demographic that represents half of the country is one that he is struggling. So profoundly with i think donald trump, if he loses this election is going to look back and think that one of the worst decisions he made was not having a female on the ticket who actually knows how to speak to living, breathing normal women about issues that matter good to them. And i would just finally say, yes, reproductive rights do matter. I access to ivf to the whole suite of care that women care about, whether it be abortion or so on. But economics, national security are also women's issues and just the way he is talking about them is not the way to sway voters in the middle, dude, actually i mean, in past races, kennedy he's generally as sort of the election gets closer, maybe they tack more to the center of trying to appeal to as many people as possible that's clearly not the strategy trump is doing. Although i mean, he does seem to be sort of like trying to kind of yeah tic certain groups, like saying he's going to reverse himself on the tiktok thing is going to save that are vaping or certainly are even on an ivf. He seems to suddenly you kind of reverse himself maybe that's his version of attacking, but does it strike you? make sense what he's doing to you? plus giving away the tariff money about 17 million different ways. But but look, i think if you're his strategists you're really deeply worried because they had a strategy and the strategy was to try and depict kamala harris as an exemplar of the incumbent policies and to make her the incumbent responsible for the economy, responsible for the border. And every time he goes out there, no matter what, he has in front of him, he does these kinds of things we're talking about that now, maybe that's what he thinks will win the election but i don't think it's it's the strategy that his campaign in their ads and such have employed and by the way, alyssa said, she he would've been better off to have a woman on his ticket. How about a woman on his staff who can write a speech that he's got in which he's going to address women because that clearly wasn't written by a woman. I mean he is not this is not a campaign in sync right now and it's a close campaign anyone can win, but he seems sort of panicked and unleashed in a way that could actually lose him the election matt, i mean, does it seem like a panicked or unleash i mean, what do you make of the things i think we're looking at a couple of different things you talk about undecided persuadable voters when i believe the poll that you just referencing, there's 2% who are undecided right now. And i guarantee about half of them just aren't going to vote. So it really, you're probably looking at one percent of the electorate doesn't know who they're voting for right now, this election is going to come down to who is able to get their voters out, who's going to energize their voters to show up again more than two participants. I think that's number one. Number two, the gender gaps working both ways right now, we are seeing a historic gender gap in this campaign. And yes it's among women voters with kamala harris in the lead. But you also have historic gender gap among men, right now. And you're seeing both campaigns in different ways, begin to try to address that deficiency whether it's donald trump adding some language in about reaching out to women voters, whether you've got kamala harris now saying she's going to take out her gun and shoot anyone who's coming into our house. Both are adjusting their rhetoric because what you're seeing right now is that they've been trying to max out their strengths with types of voters and they're actually hitting the ceiling right now. They're trying to see if maybe they can actually get a few people switch teams. And i think that's why you're seeing both campaigns act where they are. Well, do you think that's true maybe here's, here's why this is happening in 2016, donald trump ran for president and he was the new shiny thing and perhaps he could be a little erratic and he could say things people didn't like but there was a very known quantity on the other side, hillary clinton and people decided to take a gamble on donald trump. Since then, people have learned campbell didn't really pay off. There are a lot of things that they didn't like about him, who he kept showing up in the same way which was sometimes embarrassing, sometimes offensive. All those things now, he's facing a candidate who is the new shiny thing, and people are sort of maybe willing to take a gamble on her. And he can't quite find a way to go after her. And as a portion of this electorate, since dobbs women, the electorate have shown that they're really interested in abortion. And this is a very important issue for them. And he's the one responsible for taking away the right to abortion for me american women, and i think he knows it's just very hard for him to get around that issue, which is why if he's trying to make this case, the case is you got to stop thinking about abortion because he knows if they're thinking about abortion, they're not voting for him. His continued focus on springfield. I mean, alyssa they clearly must feel this is working for them, whether it's too energize the base. They already have to get people fired up? or is it not so am i i think i think they may think it's working for them and i think he lives for the applause to quote lady gaga when he speaks to these crowds and they like it, the crowd that he's speaking to enjoys that you saw the folks behind clapping and chanting. But there is a disconnect and accessibility what can about this before the ads that trump is running, look very different than what donald trump is saying. They're much more discipline, they're much more focused on growing the economy, rebuilding the middleclass, and securing the border. He's not talking about taking legal haitians out of the country and sending them back to their country. So there is that there is this question. Are voters going to see the campaign that is being run? behind his back and on the airwaves, or are they paying attention to what the principle is actually saying? because i don't know even most republicans who are really happy that he's making still making this case about springfield david, do you think people listen to those ads are listen to what he says at rallies listen, i think the thing that differentiates presidential campaigns from other campaigns is that candidates are covered intensively. Everything they say and do is covered intensively, particularly at this stage in the campaign. So, yeah, the ads have some impact. But if the candidate is not amplifying and what's in the ads and is pursuing a different strategy. People default to what they see and so i think it makes the ads less effective and it raises the saliency of the things that he's saying on the platform. I mean we're probably not the only ones tonight talking about the things that he's saying because of the things he's saying or so provocative and meant to be that you forget about the sort of basic issues that he was there. Extensively to talk about. I agree with matt that he may think this energizes his base and at the end of the day, turnout is going to be very important. This is close election, but in fact, in the cnn poll and other polls, there are voters who are still saying that they are willing to reconsider their decision. There's still voters who are on the bubble. There are voters who are voting for donald trump who don't like donald trump. They don't like the way he behaves. They don't like this, and they're voting for him because they think that on issues that are important to him, to them, that he may help them. But if he continues to behave this way, he can tip them over in a different direction here. I really i think there's great risk to it does a drama johnson's free. If it's free and fair, comment concern you have spent a lot of time in this election building up to the point of a skirmish in overtime, right? that's right. They're not really trying to win this game in the first four quarters. They really want to go into overtime where the election is going to be decided by some referees. They help pick some judges that are going to maybe in a cloud of dust paul makes them right, calls for him that get him to the house of representatives on january 6, at which point the republicans can do their work and he can get returned to office. That's what this is about. That's what the 150 lawyers and 15 battleground states are challenging ballots on the day of challenging ballots and the election commissions. And then collecting evidence for lawsuits. That's what that's all about. It's not about winning this election fair and square. I mean that in the election in 2020, which was free and fair, it was incredibly close. Wisconsin 20,000 votes and a court case and wisconsin on a conservative court could have gone another way. And those votes could have been tossed out yeah. And look, i i believed the 2020 election should've been certified right. As it was. I don't put too much stock in what the speaker is saying though i think the likelihood is that he's going to certify any election and he's just giving the caveat. They knows he needs to give politically and, you know, if we take a step back and you take out the context of 2020, most americans would agree with what he said, right? that would seem like a very reasonable thing to go out there and say, i think though a lot yes. Recalling though that mike johnson before he was speaker in january of 2021, led the amicus brief to challenge the 2020 results. So this is someone with a bit of a track record of even when it's a free and fair election saying, let's go ahead and challenge it anyway, we don't take a break. The national hurricane center's new advisory just out on helene in which is expected to become a major hurricane within hours and threatened florida's west coast will bring you a report on that coming up also, more than new cnn polling, namely what it says about the one issue that traditionally drives elections. 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