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Nasrallah. Could the u. S. Be drawn into a larger conflict with iran fire white House Adviser John Kirby is here next dark days, heated rhetoric from Donald Trump. Your town will be transformed into a third world hellhole. As he escalates false personal attacks kamala is mentally impaired. What might this mean for november South Carolina, Senator Lindsey Graham is coming up plus headtohead. The folks he governor whos lowering expectations. I had 24 kids and my high School Class and none of them went to yale, will debate an opponent who thrives on the fight we dont need to prepare for debate with tim waltz. What are the stakes for their Face Off . Everything we care about everything is under siege. Illinois Governor Jb Pritzker joins me exclusively hello im Jake Tapper in washington where the state of our union it his 37 days to go. Its the final sprint of the president ial campaign, and its still anybodys race yesterday, Donald Trump offered Wisconsin Voters a quote, Dark Vision Of The Future warning in apocalyptic terms about what his loss would mean and making the rather absurd claim that his Opponent Vice President Kamala Harris, has mentally disabled after Vice President harris gave a tough speech at the Southern Border in a remarkable Policy And Focus turnaround by the democratic nominee but this week outside events overshadowed the president ial campaign. The Southeastern United States is still struggling from the quote, biblical devastation wrought by Hurricane Helene, with dozens killed and six states and many lives still at risk because of rising floodwaters in north carolina. And profoundly destabilizing news from The Middle East where the lebanese have just recovered the body of hassan nasrallah, the leader of iranbacked hezbollah, which the u. S. Lets government considers a Terrorist Group who was killed by an israeli strike on friday. President biden said the killing gave nasrallah is victims and their families. A quote, measure of justice. But as israel struck more, hezbollah targets overnight, President Biden also called for a ceasefire in the region as us officials watched carefully for irans threatened retaliation for israel is death and the possibility that israel could move Ground Forces into lebanon joining me now to discuss White House national security Communications Advisor Admiral John Kirby. Admiral, thanks for joining us. So first of all, its President Biden glad that israel still took this action. I dont think anybodys mourning the loss of mr. Nasrallah, a known terrorist, a guy with american blood on his hands as well as israeli blood on his hands. This is a terrorist organization. He was a leader of it and i think people are safer without him walking around. But theyll try to recover. Were watching to see what they do to try to fill this leadership vacuum. Its going to be tough that much of their Command Structure has now been wiped out so the israeli strike targeting israel a flattened several large buildings in the heart of densely populated beirut, the suburb of beirut do you have any indication at all what the civilian Death Toll might be . I dont think we have an exact number, jake, we certainly assume that we go and go so far as to say we know that there are Civilian Casualties here. Theres no question about, i mean, dozens, hundreds, thousands dont think we can quantify it right now. Were in touch with our israeli counterparts about that. Each single civilian death is tragedy and certainly wow, again, nobody is mourning. Nasrallah as death. We certainly do more on any loss of civilian life. So before President Obama gave the order for Seal Team six to go in and take out bin laden. There was talk of an airstrike against the compound and the decision was made to not do so because they werent sure about the intelligence and b, because they were worried about obama was worried about Civilian Casualties the israelis wanted to different direction. Obviously their intelligence was solid but do you think israel made the right decision doing it the way they did it . Again, i think having decimated the Command Structure of hezbollah certainly works to the israelis advantage. Its actually good for the region, good for the world. Ill let the israelis speak to Decisionmaking Process they made why they chose to go this route we are continuing to talk to the israelis about what the right next steps are. And as you rightly said, in the opening here, the president continues to believe that there needs to be time and space for diplomacy, and that means wed like to see a ceasefire in place so that, that diplomacy can breathe iran condemned the killing of nasrallah and said the u. S. Is quote complicit in israels actions. How concerned is President Biden about the potential for a direct conflict . A director . A Military Conflict between israel and iran, and maybe even involving the united states or iran certainly has tried any number of things, including recently hacking President Trumps campaign, talking about it, an Assassination Attempt on President Trump how concerned is President Biden about a possible direct confrontation between the u. S and iran im concerned almost since the beginning of this conflict about it broadening, widening, becoming a regional war thats why again, the president and the g7 leaders, just a few days ago talked about trying to put calling for a 21 Day Ceasefire and everything else that the president s been doing, including jake adding forced capability, military of course it to the region is designed to prevent that exact outcome. Now, well watch and see. Weve seen the rhetoric coming out of tehran. Will watch and see what they do. We certainly will make sure that we have the capability to not only defend our troops and our facilities diplomats and military, as well as israel itself, if it comes to that, hopefully it wont. There was a State Department Spokesman the other day who said that he never he didnt know of any incident in recent history where Escalation Lead to deescalation and that is obviously a concern when it comes to these big strikes by israel. No matter how abhorrence the targets. If there are civilians that are taken out in the process do you agree that escalation seldom leaves leads to the escalation as the a State Department Spokesman said, i think we would agree on is that there needs to be an effort to deescalate here. Again, israel has a right to defend itself and a responsibility to do so. I mean hezbollah under mr. Nasrallah was a lethal threat to the israeli people. They want to yet their families back to those homes and kibbutzes in the north, we want to see that too. We believe and continue to believe that an allout war with hezbollah, a certainly with her on is not the way to do that. If you want to get those folks back home safely and sustainably, we believe that a diplomatic path is the right of course, the biden ministration, quite frankly seemed off caught off guard by the strike we were told that the president didnt find out about until planes were already in the air when the secretary of defense landed at andrews, he seemed to distance himself from the strike. He said to us was not involved in the operation and before that, the u. S. Thought that there had been buyin from prime Minister Netanyahu as to a ceasefire with hezbollah. But then ultimately, he was not on board. How strained relations between President Biden and prime Minister Netanyahu. These are two guys who have known Each Other for 40 years. Jake they have never and i suspect they will never agree on every single aspect of Foreign Policy and what were trying to get done in The Middle East. But they do agree on the Big Thing, the Big Thing is the Safety And Security of the state of israel. And trying to avoid an allout war that would put the people of israel at even greater risk. They agree on that theyre going to continue to talk and no be candid and forthright with one another. Israel, i think sometimes its easy to forget. Its a sovereign state. Its a small state, and they live in a really tough neighborhood and they suffered the worst Terrorist Attack in their history, almost exactly a year ago theyre under a lot of threat and we got to make sure that they know that america is going to continue to support them in beating back that threat that were going to keep the Force Capability we need to help defend them if possible. At the same time, have some tough conversations with them about how they do that and what the next when you say how they do that, what youre talking about is whether or not the israeli Government And Netanyahu who do enough to protect Civilian Casualties, whether or not they do enough to take into account. Sure innocent palestinians, innocent lebanese, and it doesnt sound as though the biden administration thinks netanyahu is taking that into an account, i will just say that we have had those tough conversations with our israeli counterparts since almost and we have made no bones about the fact that we dont necessarily see the tactical execution. The same way that they do in terms of protection. But the u. S. Keeps giving them weaponry, carry out these attacks. They are support for Israel Security is ironclad jake, thats not going to change. Were going to continue to make sure they can defend themselves again, this is an ally, this is a partner, and they are under attack. Every single day. If we were here in the united states facing those kinds of missiles and Drone Attacks from neighboring countries. I can guarantee the american people would want to make sure that we are doing what we can to protect them. And we are going to continue to do what we can to protect the israeli people. But that doesnt mean back to your first question about the Relationship Chip that these two men who have known Each Other a long time arent capable of having tough conversations with one another. And President Biden will continue to stand up for the right to protect civilian people, civilian infrastructure admiral kirby, thank you so much for being here. Really appreciate it. We are weeks away from the president ial election, from Election Day and Donald Trump is amping up his personal attacks and Foreboding Warning republican Senator Lindsey Graham joins me next. 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