Transcripts For CNN The Source With Kaitlan Collins 20241005

CNN The Source With Kaitlan Collins October 5, 2024

Striking the sources tonight. Donald trump lying his way through a storm zone where so many people are devastated by hurricane helene. As the former president is trashing the current president for something, trump himself actually did also tonight, move over reggie jackson because mr. October is here. Brock obama set to hit the trail for kamala harris, kicking off his campaign blitz in the mustwin state of pennsylvania and oklahoma is looking to buy a bible for every classroom, but not just any bible, one with barrow very specific requirements actually, that only seemed to describe the one trump is selling i'm kaitlan collins and this is the source stormravaged georgia today and almost immediately began lying about the federal government's response to hurricane helene, the deadliest storm to hit the united states mainland since hurricane katrina as the southeast is still reeling from the deaths of 218 people, at least an a measurable destruction the former president falsely claimed there isn't enough money for hurricane relief from the white house they're missing $1 that was used for another purpose in reality, congress just gave fema and other 20 billion last week for its disaster relief fund. The department of homeland security says it will need more to make it through the rest of hurricane season. But also noted that there is enough for the immediate rescue and recovery needs from this storm yet trump is claiming that there isn't because according to him, that money is already being used to deal with the flow of migrants at the southern border were missing $1 they gave them to the migrants that came in. And now we don't have the money will do it, but they don't have the money to take yes. If this is why they given you lousy treatment in north carolina, kamala's spent all her fema money, billions of dollars on housing for illegal migrants. They saw the fema money just like they stole it from a bank they live in over $1 to illegal migrants had came in and now they have no money that is not true. Fema says, no disaster funds were used to shelter migrants. They are two separate programs actually both approved and funded by congress. But you don't which president did do that the 45th back into those 19 when trump was still in office, his administration pulled $155 million from disaster relief funds to pay for migrant holding facilities. That means that when trump was president, he did exactly what he is accusing biden of doing, taking cash from disaster funds to pay for migrant program trump's at the southern border. And all of this is coming after trump accused the administration of also going out of its way to not help republican areas a notion that was debunked by republican governors rapid response in cooperation from the medical team at viva there's 100% federal money flowing in getting getting assistance and we're asking for you everything you need today was trump's second visit to georgia since hurricane helene hit, but it was his first meeting in more than four years with that state's republican governor, brian kemp trump shared an awkward handshake with camp, whom of course he relentlessly attacked for years for not supporting his election lies also going after his wife, just a few months ago and ultimately attempting but failing to ruin his political career. Today, if you were watching the two of them, it seemed as if almost none of that happened the governor's doing a again is doing a fantastic job. It's great no, no, no, it's great. Now, we work together. We've always worked together we've always worked together. I'm not sure can put agree with that, but no comment from the georgia governor on that. My political sources here tonight include the democratic former mayor of new york city built a blasio republican strategist, tw, a rogi, and cnn chief media analyst, brian stelter and mr. Mayor, you were actually in office when democrats were criticizing trump for diverting funds from disaster relief to other immigrationrelated programs? yeah. And i was at the southern border in tornillo, texas seeing just how troubled that whole effort was with migrant families and the children who were separated from their families i mean, that was a disaster to itself. So i mean, the reality is it's more than ironic that trump has offering this criticism. But the fact is it's bringing back a memory of how poorly trump handled the southern border. And in fact, across the board, this was really important. This was bipartisan folks. As a matter of conscience and clear lot of folks in the faith, communities of this country felt that the treatment of those children and those families was downright unamerican. So he diverted the funds and then did it badly. And there was actually a national outcry. And it's just something though that is being repeated time and time again. I mean, a lot of people are listening to trump in the state of georgia when he goes there in other states where he saying they're not helping at all in north carolina, ensure people are frustrated at times when they're dealing with a response in a moment like this when they're house has been completely wiped off, their town potentially tw. But to see other republicans promoting this and amplifying this when really it's just the appropriation this process at the end of the day is quite something. Well, but, i think there's two different things here. Number one, a sitting governors always going to want to keep the money flowing into their state. People are in need right now. We have 200 plus people dead, countless more missing. We have no idea. There were communities that can only be reached by helicopter and we have legions of visuals doing it themselves instead of the united states military. And a lot of people are looking and saying, we're throwing all of this money to all of these new waves of migrants coming in to a lot of different projects throughout this country to ukraine and whatever we can debate each of those individually, that's fine. But right now, the only policy proposal on the table from the harris the harris agenda is $750. A family of people think that's paltry thoughts and the large number just yet, survivors are going to get tens of thousands of dollars i get. So why did you lie just now know what i'm saying is this. I'm putting the point in this when people are talking my money in the billions of dollar, you screwed up, she made the point that it was 700 you're $50 a family. It might end up on the first death in bryan. I'm not seeing money will not reach it. I'm saying with the political reality is people in north carolina are upset. They see tons of money going elsewhere in there, isn't an immediate reaction from the federal government. That's all i'm saying. There's not an immediate reaction. It's not the messenger hour we'll watch going on. It happened five days ago. We should have helicopters in the sky of the united states. They've, they've been there several days, brian. Brian that is completely not the story that people are hearing. Your right hand are seeing on social media is false. You're absolutely right that the lies on social location that distorting people's minds. We have true, we have countless people missing okay. There's billions of dollars going into every which way to other two. Like i said, migrants. And this is just as fine. We can have the debate about all those searches country on earth, what i am saying is when a disaster like this happens to respond to these to be immediate and overwhelming you're saying it has to do here allegedly government has been okay. But can we and tries no one cares about this situation? everyone care, but hang on for a second on for a second because the $750 actually looked into this because it's being pushed. That's what they get immediately. That is something for someone, a family that has absolutely nothing that is what they're able to get. People are seizing on what harris said. That's not actually a reality that, that's all they're going to get but the point of this overall is that the federal government is there. I mean, you just heard from every republican governor, brian kemp, also said it as well. We didn't we played his comments the other day that they are getting overwhelming help from the federal government here. That's actually the issue is that it's not as if they're not there. I think the first people to call out the federal government if they don't show up, would be the media as well? yes. Seen what happened with hurricane katrina he and the republican local officials who are actually saying don't believe the lies on the internet. I think what frustrates me kaitlan is, we're seeing the best of humanity in the carolinas and georgia, we're seeing the worst of humanity on the internet. I made a list of some of the lies, right? marjorie taylor greene claiming democrats can control the weather for and try to hurt republicans by sending storms their way. Influencers saying fema spent all the hurricane relief money on immigrants. Its ally others are claiming fema is stealing supplies that corporations are kicking people out of their homes and confiscating property. Corporations are doing this. The death toll is being covered up. Helicopters are being banned from landing and relief. Son all of these are lies that are spreading on social media. And it's very hard to negate these lies with the truth because the truth is boring and complicated and complex. Fema has to put up a rumor page to address the rumors. Ran ran. Gov. North carolina rumor response. I mean, that's not something you think you'd see the north carolina governor saying this actually is demoralizing to members national guard who had been on the ground in his state for days. Yeah. Look, i mean, we're talking about heroic efforts under the worst possible conditions. And there is something troubling about the fact that there isn't even a breath taken to recognize the human sacrifice of the folks were there from fema, from national guard, local law enforcement, and just neighbors it's helping neighbors. Let's focus on that, but let's also focus on where this comes from this issue. It's about climate change and fascinating to say it's sad to say climate change is really not a topic in this election. And that is a problem i think there's two gigantic trends in this country, in this world, climate change and artificial intelligence that basically they're being entirely missed in this election debate in this country. And i understand some of why but we just saw the most vivid example of this. This is 1,000 year storm that hit the carolinas, thousandyear storm and they're saying this is not the last we're going to see of this kind of thing. Go to one second. I want to go because we have jordan we're just former lieutenant governor geoff duncan also joining us and jeff, i just wonder when you when you look at this conversation that we're having now first, just tell me what your response is. Seeing trump come to your home state and say something that governor kemp himself says is not true well, i think first of all, it's a sobering reminder of where the republican party is at right now and how deepen the gutter we truly are to think we're going to use this platform to politicize what the mayor just said is one of the worst storms to hit this region ever, at least in any of our lifetimes but look, donald trump is down in georgia today only because he cares about trying to win georgia because he's realized if he loses georgia, he's probably going to end up going the jail. And that's why he's stuck in up to brian kemp. That's why he's playing the games. He's playing. It's very interesting looking at this picture here, who is in charge of the agenda today, and that was brian kemp brian kemp, stay laserfocused during that press conference on the hurricane and the relief efforts and didn't disparage anybody or in the federal government or state government donald trump, at least during his prepared remarks, stayed on message. But then it was interesting to see when donald trump wanted to take questions and leave and take political lean. Brian kemp shook his handling he left the stage. I think that spoke volumes of where brian kemp said, yeah, i noticed that as well. He shook his hand, you know, kind of pat him on the shoulder and left. But just to see these images, i mean, i've interviewed governor kemp a lot and just a few months ago when trump was saying that he was this average governor, that he wouldn't and get off as asked to help people in georgia. That was a quote from him. He went after his wife. He was just so angry because kemp didn't vote for him and the republican primary even though he is voting for him here, i just wonder what you made of the total one at on trump's behalf at the end of that press conference today. Well, look, you know, governor kemp has earned the right to support and vote for anybody who wants to has been a tremendous governor in this state, i've chosen to take a different path forward and try to heal and rebuild the party i drew a number of lines in the sand. Our entire family did coming home from dinner tonight and i we talked about those lines in the sand, right. The death threats that came in that was a stark line for me that i would never support somebody that was directly responsible for threats to my wife and my kids. Lines around fiscal irresponsibility, lines around covid response, and certainly around the 2020 election, which was just unbelievably horrific, unamerican unpatriotic. There isn't enough terms to go through. How bad donald trump is to this country into this party. And when we look at this tw and bryan, i mean, just this this nature of the response here. It's not just what he was saying today about the hurricane relief and it's not just him saying that the federal government is ignoring states where republicans live. The jobs report comes out today and allies of trump's senator marco rubio, you have spent a lot of time on the hill tw are saying it's a fake jobs report. I mean, that's something that trump always used to say that it's a fake jobs report. If it's not good, if it's good, then it's real well, the job he said that one. Yeah i that's untrue i can't say it's fake. It's real. There were red flags in that jobs report. I will say that both manufacturing and transportation and warehousing were the only two sectors by the bureau of labor statistics that went down that is not good in today's climate the ones that led the charge were threefold. That was private education, health services. We're going back to school was hotels and leisure snowbirds are leaving and it was three, it was the government, which is concerning to me because there's a story by axios two days ago that said half of the, over half of the counties in america now have a majority of citizens who get at least 25% of their income from the federal government. The government is growing in a bad way. The military is in a tough shape. It should be growing they're not elsewhere. So the jobs report, while it was great on the surface definitely

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