Choctaw reservation last week talking about that. What are the sources of wandering . Is the universal service fund useful to you now and what would we have to do to improve its . Look at the federal government do in terms of funding for tribal infrastructure . Particularly for those tribes that might have more difficult the . Im thinking of the pueblos in new mexico or the tribes at the grand canyon smaller and less funding available. How were these funds helpful to you the once a helpful to the wants of we do have in these programs that we these programs that we do have are they . Thank you congressman pallone and you are always welcome. With usf funding Stable Funding mechanisms are critical. Where they have to develop the climate bank plans are land federal Funding Sources to be there to begin with. Providing funding for the structure build outs and that is critical to the longterm sustainability of these telecommunications providers. Are you using funds from universal service now . Yes we are. How does that work . How do you do it . Thats critical to the overall this is plan. Relying on that source of income moving forward, its critical. Its a longterm Business Outlook and with regards to the longterm capital told out as well. Thank you mr. Chairman. The gentlemans time has expired and the chairman recognizes mr. Shimkus for five minutes. I appreciate you all being here. I want to go to adelstein and the governor. The Environmental Review process on federal lands is a burden so have you thought through how local municipalities can do their zoning outside of federal lands and how we can marry that with what goes on there and can you comment on that . Yes some counties are great and we heard from google that those communities make it easier to get access and that is where the investment goes. A specific community arent seeing the investment they would get if they werent throwing up road locks. They are not going to have service in their backyard so we were corporately with local communities and every single facility that has been cited in cooperation with the local government but to have it be dragged out or took the work of the committee to say you dont have to get another zoning hearing to put up a 4g antenna that is party there. Increasingly communities are recognizing this. The smart ones are moving ahead in the last 20 cents 2013. There are streamlined deployment and those states are receiving more investment to get the word out about the way the fccs implementing the laws you pass. Commissioner clyburn asked us to go out the. With me ask mr. Lewis on the federal robberies because thats a another challenge. The question is can we force a zoning issue to get you guys owning a ability like we do municipalities . Senator byrd via wood the agency could keep the money they get to pay for the cost of processing it. There would be common forms and contracts by the need for more lets lishan. Theres an expectancy of lease were no so when somebody invests their. That make it governor lewis to respond. Federal lands in Indian Country has been a long issue in regards to our unique situation as the nature of indian land in regards to fracks and land interest that are just so critical and sometimes are one of the major obstacles to build outs with regards to right of ways. If we can somehow streamline that process to the bureau of Indian Affairs and department of interior that would really help out tribal infrastructure buildout in the future. My largest Congressional District is 33,000 people. When do you think google would hit that community on your timeline . Did you want to name that amenity . Im not the chairman of the committee so i dont have as much power. We have published this so we can ask mr. Adelstein said get Fiber Deployment whether its google or any provider tim picture they have the permitting process that allows for a large volume of permits to go through to make it easy for people to get onto telephone poles. So its the same type of debate with the rural or the federal land deployment. The ease of being able to have access and a timely response and its all about return on investment. So with the rural area cant make the call based upon the formula then you have to be able to dip into our u. S. Or other forms of low interest loans to make it and also time is money. Any delay and what we talked about here affects the ability for someone to go to the cap bull market can make it pitch that they will get their return on investment. That is correct as well. I yield back my time. The chair recognizes the gentleman from pennsylvania mr. Doyle. Thank you for this excellent hearing and is excellent panel. Jonathan welcome back great rodkin infrastructure comes a critical component for every facet of our daily lives. All levels of government communicate with citizens increasingly leverage the network to improve the delivery and efficiency of service. This work in partnership with Carnegie Mellon university and google is a connective platform that will integrate Traffic Cameras and information kiosk to create a Living Laboratory for nextgeneration technologies. This platform will be used to improve traffic had earned in realtime allowing Citys Department to officially predictable road wear and schedule maintenance and allow people to explore and interact with the city more effectively. Available in ubiquitous ripe infrastructure provides a basis basis for the next generation solutions. I for one and a big fan of making every tool in the toolbox available to local governments to make sure they have access to the best networks in the best platforms in order to improve the lives of People Living there there. Mr. Chairman i would love to work with you on putting together some legislation to address some of these challenges challenges. Let the start with ms. Socia. How can localities leverage shared infrastructure to increase the deployment of broadband to cities like pittsburgh to address our own municipal needs . How can we and other municipalities use what we are building to expand access more broadly and what if anything stands in the way of the municipality leveraging the infrastructure . Really interesting work has been done as you have suggested. Many of her cities are using smart infrastructure to do interesting work to determine particulates in the air and checking asthma rates and using street lights that have cameras in them for Public Safety. We are seeing a lot want that happened and i think there are barriers for cities to doing this work is well and some of them are the state regulations that prohibit their building out their own infrastructure. In some cases as was mentioned earlier it was issues of how densely populated the circumstances i am curious about the discrepancies that exist. In pittsburgh for it since i can get 500 megabits per second but it would cost me 400 a month. When we look at cities like chattanooga and kansas city and boston and other cities residents can get a dig for less than 100. Im curious maybe mr. Moffat and mr. Slinger and ms. Socia could comment on why you think these discrepancies exist. Thank you for the question. My observation would be you are right there are a wide range of economic models and its a challenge because there is no nearterm variable costs. Its a cost bus models so you see Companies Experimenting with different prices in part because they are trying to iraq but that quantity demanded will be at different prices. The challenge but obviously you tend to have lower prices where you have multiple competing networks and again it raises the questions of whether the providers are earning a sufficient return of the market share at the prices they are charging. In many cases they are not traded this is a difficult area to do Economic Research however because you will find there are a lot of companies that have different of this than profitability. I want to get to mr. Slinger. I would say if you look at the cities in which we are operating or cities we have announced we are seeing in prices drop. We now go to the gentleman from louisiana mr. Scalise for five minutes. Thank you mr. Chairman. Mr. Adelstein you talk in your Opening Statement of a lot a lot of the work thats been done to expand spectrum within this committee where we have come together to make more spectrum available and our chairman has been a great leader in that effort too. One part of that equation absolutely is expanding more spectrum and of course the other part of that is your members very few build it out and to build that infrastructure to take advantage of the spectrum. If you could share with us some of the challenges or hurdles that your members face to make the investment that they can make to take advantage of that spec and to make more spectrum available in the marketplace. Spectrum has been quite a hurdle. You saw 41 million was spent for a limited amount of spec and white tape. Better than the cbo estimate. Hopefully cbo recognizes the value of spectrum. The fact is that was a 12 increase in available commercial mobile sector. If youre a 12 increase in throughput and 700 we are down to 680 . A long way to go to build out to meet the needs of people and as i said local communities often are saying no to these facilities. We have the Business Case in rural areas as we have discussed today in the overall return on investment is difficult. We cant afford to have regulatory drag on these investments. Slowing them down making it more expensive when there is enough capital toga to meet these needs already. That is where we are at in this country and as slow as it is its immediately available when you see that same structure and reuse it. All of these burdens on federal lands and urban areas the fcc has done a great job in the committee has done a great job in trying to address that but we need to work with our partners in state and local governments as well. We have been grappling with trying to remove those burdens not just spectrum and a whole lot of areas related to Energy Production were federal land and in the local area some of those restrictions make it really hard to experience a lot of the economic opportunity. Thanks for that answer. Mr. Moffett in your analysis if you could share with us some of the similar challenges where some actions that may be congress or the fcc can take to further expand the opportunities for wifi broadband . As i said earlier i think there are opportunities can connect america funds and making those available to a wider range of companies who are bringing broadband to rural areas but there is an overarching question here and it relates to the question that Ranking Member issue asked earlier about what are the bright spots . If you think about this is the larger value chain of microeconomics breathing from the content companies and internet providers to the infrastructure providers where the bright spots are is clearly outside of infrastructure. The App Developers and the companies are earning extraordinary returns. There is a very kneejerk and familiar regulatory impulse to say lets try to protect the companies that are making high returns from the ones that are making low returns. As an economist thats a very odd structure. Final question mr. Slinger when google fiber was being deployed its been reported you all were able to work with local governments and maybe some expedited approval processes so that not just you but other entrance were able to move things through quicker. He could talk in general about the ability for government to take more of a regulatory approach and how it the regulation in the sense of helping expedite the expansion of technology has helped you and helps others to develop even more broadband . Im going to go back to the fiber check list which we published in 2014. Some of our major areas obviously are having access to the poll to make the poles ready. One thing that has been suggested was if municipalities took a proactive step in doing Home Maintenance while they are doing Home Maintenance get rid of the old wires that arent needed that would allow new entrants google fiber or other entrance to get in quick lien attach it poll. That is one thing that would really help and policy and access to their rightofway. Theres more we can do with federal highway to make sure no one is ripping up a road to construction repaving that we putting conduit that anyone can use. Those are smart things that allow new market entrants and also lead to more competition. Thanks for your answers. The gentleman yields back the balance of his time. Unfortunately we are going to have to pull this to a close because we are down to four minutes left in the vote. This is not the last hearing. We expect to continue this work Going Forward in your testimony has got us to a good starting place. We have a lot of followup to do. There are members that didnt get a chance to ask questions. We do have information to submit for the record including from cca tech freedom and mr. Olson i believe you have a document you want to articles on broadband deployment and with that i am afraid we are going to ms. Matsui to want just a minute or two . Just a minute or two. I was curious i want to ask mr. Slinger some questions. I find what youre talking about very interesting because i look at this and what you say is all very important that about deploying broadband infrastructure and im from sacramento so we have wonderful areas that are doing great rings. Im looking at a particular area and are sitting that is economically deprived and we have a light rail station thats going to be completed their with fiber. But yet we have schools and libraries that are deprived and people there who have no access. If we were to do something they are and i dont know whether we can have a special project but im looking at this for economic development. Is that something that we can provide access that you say that you need . Is that something that you were somebody else can take on as a project working with us because im trying very much to help this area. They feel very deprived looking at the rest of my district that feel like they are on the move and they are not on the move and i want to get them on the move. Is there something we can do there . There is a lot that we do earlystage with all the cities we look at to make sure they have the right kind of Digital Inclusion plans in place to make sure the cities have a focus on it and again there is no silver all it. We want to make sure that all providers and local Community Groups take this on and add fiber and the technologies to make sure people understand the relevancy of the web and hopefully get more people on line. Thank you very much and thank you mr. Chairman. Thank you. We will have to call it to conclusion. We have votes on the house floor so thank you to all of you for your testimony, your counsel and we look forward to being back in touch with you as we move oregon to others who have ideas for the congress and now we can expand access to affordable broadband broadband broadband across the country wherever it is not. I understand we have some tribal letters for the record as well from mr. Lujan which we are happy to accept and what that he will adjourn. [inaudible conversations] that same subcommittee is holding another hearing today this time on overall federal Communications Commission operations. Witnesses include the fcc chair and the former sec chair. Fcc chair. The cspan cities tour working with our cable affiliates look that cities across the country. We are learning more about the literary life and history of augusta, georgia. We are sitting here in the Augustine Museum of history. About 10 years ago, a decision was made to do a military display that was permanent to honor jimmy dias. He is the only person ever to have earned the purple heart and the medal of honor. He would probably say he was not he would not deserve it. He never talked about the Carnegie Medal. People knew him well and i told them to tell me about the Carnegie Medal that he won when he was 19. They didnt know anything about it. It is a piece of humility we can all learn from. We also visit the boyhood home of our 28 president woodrow wilson. President wilson moved to augusta as a child. He moved to this house when he was three. His very first memory was in november of 1860 before he was four years old. He was standing on the front gate in front of the house and two men came by in a hurry with excited tones of voice. They said Abraham Lincoln has just been elected president and there is going to be a war. Young tommy ran inside and asked his father what this war was about. We think it is remarkable that his very first memory was about another president , Abraham Lincoln, and about another war the civil war. Wilson would have to leave the country the world war i. See all of our programs from augustus saturday at noon eastern on cspan2s book tv and sunday afternoon at 2 00 on American History seat American History tv on cspan3. Cabinet officials returned to capitol hill today to testify on the iran nuclear agreement. The House Foreign AffairsCommittee Hears from secretary kerry. That is live at 10 00 a. M. Eastern on cspan3. Now, combating Prescription Drug abuse at the state level. This is part of the National GovernorsAssociation Meeting held over the weekend in white Sulfur SpringsWest Virginia. It is an hour and 20 minutes. Gov. Beshear good morning. We will call this meeting to order. This is a joint session o