Question for you is what is your view of the decision to pardon joe arpaio . If you support the move, call 2027488000. If you oppose it, call 2027488001. If you live in arizona, give us a call at 2027488002. We are on social media, on twitter at cspanwj and on facebook at facebook. Com cspan. Fits in thee arpaio hardline approach the president has taken on immigration and weighing what to do about the policy known as daca, that shields from deportation certain young people who were brought to the country illegally as children. We will talk about that later but sheriff joe, a survey from nbc news that says most of those pardon for the sheriff former sure as more than half of americans disapprove of Donald Trumps decision to pardon former Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio bought two thirds say they support a program allowing dreamers to stay in the u. S. , expected to end. Six in 10 felt it was wrong for donald trump to pardon joe arpaio who was convicted for ignoring a judge order not to detain suspected undocumented immigrants, 24 said they felt that 34 felt the pardon was right. Fromet from sheriff joe, august 25, he says thank you for seeing my conviction for what it is, a political witchhunt by holdovers in the Obama Justice department. The folks at point of fact look at the claim that he was unfairly treated by some holdovers in the Obama Administration and they rate the claim false. Scroll down here to the bottom. You can see for yourself once it loads. Technology is not working this morning. A 2007 private lawsuit turned into a classaction lawsuit that led a george w. Bush era federal judge ,o order an injunction over joe he publicly declared that he would not change his ways with the original just referring to his case for criminal prosecution and a clinton era judge found him guilty. The record, laws, legal opinion shows the u. S. District court for the area of arizona had control over the process, not Justice Department staff linked to the Obama Administration. We rate this claim false. Lets go to marvin from philadelphia, pennsylvania who says he opposes the move by the president. Why is that . Caller whenever somebody gets pardon, they are already in jail and then they pardon them. He did not do a died in jail. And he gets pardon. Dime in jail. And he gets pardon. People stated how they were illegally stopped and he was racially profiling. He should have let him go to jail first before pardoning him and spent time in jail, then pardon them. Host what do you think accounts for the president s quick action . Onler his quick action things that really do not matter. He needs to have quick action on the highway bill and things that do matter. Do you know what i mean . I think the president backed him because joe arpaio back to the president. I do not understand the president. York, ifhard park new you can bring up the line. Herb on the line for supporters. Caller good morning. The audacity of the sheriff for questioning what is overrunning our nation, you Legal Immigration illegally arrived aliens. Let me make my main point, this federal judge that conducted the refused toeriff joe allow him a jury trial. He asked repeatedly for a jury trial. The reason why the federal judge would not allow him a jury of his peers to try sheriff joe is because they knew that no jury in arizona is going to convict the sheriff, who is very popular throughout the state. My point. Host lets go to blank from foley, alabama who supports the president s move. Caller this was a political witchhunt, trying to punish the sheriff. It has nothing to do with anything else. I do not know how many people know it, but i saw that sheriff joe was involved in the birther controversy about president obama. Host that is right. He was on the obamas supporters radar for run reason that one reason feared one reason. They went against the wishes of the people in arizona who appreciated controlling the mob rule and lawlessness going on over there, where people illegals would fit peoples cars with their cars and run away and they were left with the damage appeared the soaring cost in the schools and health cares and services, no one was doing anything except the sheriff. If he had committed the racial profiling and all of the other nonsense being talked about by peoplet, and mr. Obamas , why wasnt he convicted of any of those things . They got him on a technicality and donald trump was right in putting his foot down and stopping the stupidity and witchhunt they started. Whether it was started by george atbush, who was no better immigration that obama, he was worse and wanted to give amnesty to everybody. That is why his poll numbers went down by the time george w. Bush left office. I am happy donald trump took action. All of the same people against pardoning the sheriff, now saying that he should pardon all of these illegal people Walking Around and taking tax supported money for their schooling and colleges, dreamers so to speak. As regular americans who are living by law, they are not dreamers, you are not a dreamer . The black kids living in harlem are not dreamers who have no resources . Only illegal people are dreamers . Host lets hear from the president. Here is what he said last week at a Campaign Rally in phoenix when he spoke about sheriff joe. President trump to the people in this room like sheriff joe do the people in this room like sheriff joe . [applause] [applause] [applause] [applause] was sheriff joe convicted for doing his job . He should have had a jury. I will make a prediction. I think he will be just fine. [applause] [cheers and applause] but i will not do it tonight, because i do not want to cause controversy. Is that ok . All right . Good ff joe can feel but sheriff joe can feel good. Host the president pardoned him a few days after that speech. Aj colley from raleigh, north carolina, on the line for supporters. Aj is a she. I am in support of the president pardoning sheriff joe. It was not as if he broke any laws. He was found in contempt by a judge. Countryck woman in this , i want to see the time come upset aboutget more what is not being done for black people in this country. Black men have an unemployment rate, young black men have a very high unemployment rate. They have dreams to. Too. We should be focusing on taking care of our own. I am old enough to remember when janet reno sent armed federal agents to go and drag elliott inzales out of his aunts florida to send to cuba because they said it was better for the child to be with his family. These children brought here of not because they wanted to come, they would be better off with their families. If you love your kids, take them with you. Sheriff joe did not break the law. He was enforcing immigration laws. If the case was that he was in someplace where you had norwegian crossing the border, illegally, he would do the same thing. He was enforcing the law. It was right for the president to pardon him. Lust lets head to lu calling from florida. She opposes the decision. Why . Caller good morning. My problem is that this president is so out there. We are trying to rationalize the decision this man is making. That man was supposed to go to jail. Period. Ut illegal immigrants. His wife is russian. I am not understanding the rationale. Disturbing,at is the fact that we had this mentality that, i ess it makes us feel better that we agree with the race type thing. So many black people hear what he says and watch what he do, and they are still supporting him. It is almost like black on black crime. Host when you hear the previous caller from raleigh suggests that it is correct for the government to focus on illegal viewrants, because, in her , the government should focus on american citizens and use the resources for american citizens. You five issue with that . Findve issues with that issues with that . Caller yes, we were all immigrants. Who is to make a decision who needs to be here . It would be one thing if you said it was illegal immigrants. Like people selling drugs. Just regular people, let them go to work. Just let them go to work. Host lets go to bridgeton, new jersey, walter on the line for supporters, he supports the decision for President Trump to pardon sheriff joe arpaio. Caller i called it on the wrong line. I do not support his decision. Host tell us why . Caller because he was following the rule of law. He was racially profiling a group of people, questioning them, stopping them. That is wrong. Lake county sheriff should not be elite a county sheriff should not be alienating the populist. How many women were abused by their husbands who were in the country illegally and did not call the Sheriffs Department because of that . Host we talked about this a couple of weeks ago on this program. A lady from arizona who was native american said she got pulled over and was profiled because she appeared to be latina. That is what she said about roche racial profiling in arizona under sheriff joe. What do you think about that . Caller it is not right. If they pull over people who have on muslim garb, yarmulkes, it is wrong. Host lets hear from grace calling from quincy i call from brownsville, texas. Good morning. Youclose the decision oppose the decision by President Trump, why . Caller the law is the law. , the law istempt the law and you cannot change the law. Would hee done have parted and hispanic or black person . When will this stop, how many people will he parted, his son that he parted, his son for dealing with russia will he pardon his son for dealing with russia . That is wrong. The laws are there for a reason. You cannot say, it is ok, you can do whatever you want because youre quite. White. What about the blacks or hispanics . Host brownsville is a border town, what is the situation with immigration there . Caller the immigration the patrol are decent people. They do not mistreat people. It looks like it will change. If he keeps going the way things are going. The border wall, what about the deficit . The money could go towards the deficit. This is taxpayer money and he said he would get mexico to pay for it, not us. He is shutting down the government because they will not give him the money . Decision and bad they do not know how to say that they made a mistake and get him out of there. Host lets go to grace from quincy, massachusetts. She opposes the pardon. Why . Caller i think the president is setting an example with the law and saying it is not to be enforced. He is like a dictator. When you have the rule of law, whether you are in agreement or disagree, you still have to go with the process to determine you are innocent. He is sending mixed messages. And hen to charlie rose had on a historian and reverend al from new york, queens, he was in congress. 1990s, there were five young men, not caucasian. Which President Trump demeaned. In public. Everybody listens to him. Like they do now. They found these people were innocent and he never apologized. Host the central park five, right . Caller i look at my grandchildren and say i understand people not having jobs and all of that. I have raise families and gone through these things. We have things happen to us through no fault of our own. Youthinking then was, ok, do not go out and cause disruption, you try to work to the process to get legislation so nobody else will get hurt. I felt that way and wanted to set an example for my children. I do not see that happening. What is wrong with the American People . Dont they see what this man is doing . Look at the chaos. Even when they had the march in boston, many people who opposed the thinking of President Trump were well behaved. Minority, were spitting at the policeman. Anymore,no intellect reasoning, or thinking. I am 83 years old and i have never seen anything like this in my life. I feel bad for my country, and i love it. People have to think beyond themselves. They have to look at this man that has caused an uprising, is causing problems with his speech. , anybody canead read something from a piece of paper. When you speak with your own voice and your own voice is destructive, and people applaud said, what is happening to the word think before you speak. A president in my opinion is setting a bad example for the young people of this country. We just have to pray. I do not know. Thank you for listening. Host lets hear from an arizona resident. Donna from surprise, arizona. Is surprise in Maricopa County . Caller it is. Host go ahead. Caller i have been through the jail system. It is torture. I would hope that he would never have to suffer through what he put everybody else through. Because it is torture. What he putsu say everybody else through, what you mean specifically . Caller just that it is torture. The jail system is torture. , why cantconvicted they put him through what he put everybody else through, if he is convicted . It is a shame that we have to suffer. Everybody in congress is away with murder, basically. It is despicable. Tell a despicable. Totally despicable. Host what do people in Maricopa County think about joe arpaio . Him . Do people make of caller everybody that i know, they do not like him. They do not like him at all. He was voted in and voted out now for a specific reason, obvious why. That is all i have to say, thank you. Host asheville, north carolina, joyce on the line for supporters. Pardon i support the because this sheriff was just doing his job. If they had not been lawbreakers, and being illegal is breaking the law, they would have not been in a position. As far as donald trump, he cares more about this country than anyone we could put in office. Where is the outrage over the 178 partisans obama gave s obama gave. Pardon they may move next door to me. What if they were serious sex offenders like rapists the children . We should know who they are. Said nobody is anything about that and obama sending the gold in money to iran . We do not know how it will be used. I have no trust in the democrat party. It is not that i am all for the republicans, i am for the one c stand up for this country. Black,t care if they are white come in between, democrat, republican. Pardonaio deserves the and donald trump had the sense enough to know it. Host an oped from the lawyer of sheriff joe. It says that this case has been a proxy battle over immigration enforcement, the sheriff joe congressional contempt trial had nothing to do with race and the u. S. Government admitted before the trial that it is unaware of facts that would support the defendant and other officers detained plaintiffs on the basis of race. Sheriff joe is not a racist anymore the nominations immigration laws are racist and anymore than the goodman and women who protect this nations borders and enforce immigration laws are racist or the federal government, which trains the Sheriffs Office to look at race is a factor when deciding on an illegal immigrant, according to the court, is racist. The trial was about accusing him of a crime because his opposite did what other Police Agencies did at the time, and they continue to do. They can now be penalized for not doing, reporting illegal aliens who are apprehended to the federal authorities and holding onto them to be turned over. Lets hear from gabriel calling from california. He opposes the pardon. Good morning. Caller good morning to you. First of all, i would like to tell everyone who is blaming this on obama that certainly not. What i believe is that donald mp, who come in my opinion who, in my opinion, he wants to fortify his rightwing fanatics because he is losing on people who are rational. I want to wish you a very good day. Lets hope he does something to show his concern for texas. God bless texas and america. Host we will talk about texas later in the program. Ins listen to sheriff joe his own words on this program during the 2016 Republican National convention. At the time, he was a supporter of donald trump and also a donald trump delegate, believe. To supportyou decide donald trump one year ago, was it his stance on immigration which you have been vocal about . IlLegal Immigration. That, i have been the honorary chairman for george and on the first time the Electoral College involvement. And also for mitt romney. The first time. I have had many president s candidate visit me in the last cycle. I stayed out because i have a little knowledge of president ial campaigns. I have had four president ial candidates visit my tent city that i set up and is still there. I may be talking about them on my anniversary date, august 3. Trump came on board. And i introduced him last july in phoenix. Something told me he was the guy. My gut told me that. I have been with him ever since. Host lets hear from carol from brooksville, florida on the line for supporters. Caller good morning. I am glad to do this program, it is very informative. Host thank you. Caller i believe joe should have been pardoned. I support the president. Dacao think the children, when this ends this month, i believe they should be given two years free of charge to attend the classes to become citizens. If all of it was made free to them, they should be able to do it. That is my opinion. Or hand it off to congress, there is full more than one person to make the decision, not put it all on the president. Thank you for listening to me. Host ashley mentioned, the story ashley mentioned, the headline in the washington post, hill republicans contemplate a conservative dream act which would enshrine in law some of the daca protection she was talking about. Not just paul ryan but others as well. It says that, in addition to speaker ryan, several other leading republicans come including orrin hatch and jeff flake of arizona, lobbied the president not to kill daca. Hatch said congress may come up with a permanent solution for individuals who entered the country unlawfully as children through no fault of their own and who have built their lives here. He said lawmakers must take immediate action to protect daca kids. Florida governor rick scott is a long time donald trump a backer said the kids must be allowed to pursue the American Dream and Congress Must act on this immediately. Legislative action is viewed as a long shot however with three major efforts on Immigration Reform under president george w. Bush and obama failed on capitol hill, including the dream act in 2010 that wouldve offered immigrants a path to citizenship. Arizona. Gilbert, good morning.