Well try to go through the agenda, i know therell be other press conferences afterwards as well. The blue ahearts alerts, Public Safety, any questions on that . Monty, Public Safety are you ere . Monty taylor, i wonder quickly if the bureau had any response to the issue raised by the commissioner about the cost benefit analysis and weighing the cost of Police Officers life and money being disrespectful. Do you have any response to that . Well im not going to respond to her comment, especially since i havent seen her entire statement but what i will say is, you know, we certainly and i think everyone can agree that the life of a Police Officer is, you know, highly valuable and one of the reasons thats one of the reasons that we took, that the commission took the action it took today. The idea being we have to do our part to protect those that are going out and facing danger every day to protect us. Thank you so much. Youre welcome. Anything further on this one . Any questions on the Rural Health Care item . Ok, so i think what well do then is actually, why dont we do, any questions on the wireless item for twilight towers . Howard. Wireless, why dont you come up. This seems like kind of a production, i just had a question or two. I was curious, theres been some talk to the item might change some over the draft. Can you tell us whether there were any changes of note over what had been approved, over what had been proposed by chairman pai . I think commissioner karr made some general references to some changes but i think youre also going to see the item itself probably later today. Ok. Ok. At least, im i hope im not promising more than my staff is ready for, but i think itll be out very soon. Then i guess i wanted to ask about the tribal aspect. It seemed like that was where there was a lot of discussion and it looked like clyburn and rosemore both said different things. Can you explain what it does in terms of the tribes . Part of the Historic Preservation process is coordination with tribal nations that might have an interest in the area where the facilities are going. We have had as i think you heard in the meeting a lot of conversations with interested parties including tribes over a number of years try to figure out what to do with these twilight towers. What we did today is really kind of the equivalent of notice of proposed rule making. We are putting it out for toshe comment and that includes the tribal nations who may have an interest in this. Theres a group called the National Association of tribal historic presser vation officers, theyve been involved in the proceedings and the infrastructure proceeding generally. I expect well be hearing from and working with them as we move forward to the next stage. To be clear, theres no connection between the twilight movies and these towers . Not to my knowledge. While wireless is here, any questions on the cmrs item . If not, lets move ahead to restoring Internet Freedom to wireline. Come up and join the wireless folks standing here for estoring Internet Freedom. Emso who has a question . Go ahead. One when will the when will f the it take place . The Effective Date of the item as a whole, the three parts of it, will take effect soon after approval by the office of management and budget of the the new transparency rule needs to be aproved by o. M. B. For a smoother, well do everything at once. Thank you. Sthrnt a 30 or 60day period between the time it gets published in the federal register that it takes effect . The first step will be, we will publish the order itself in the federal register, summary of the order, the entire order. We also have to seek approval by o. M. B. Of the trans the new transparency rule. Well actually have o. M. Once we have o. M. B. Approval well publish again in the federal register, a notice of the o. M. B. Approval, plus announce the Effective Date of the entire item. So that would be, is that 3 or 60 days beyond . 30 or 60. I think what youre thinking of is the public draft stated he item would take effect 60 days after publication in the register. It will take effect shortly after the approval of the office of management and budget. Theres no specific time period . Zaff approval by the office of management and budget. As soon as that happens it takes effect immediately . Shortly thereafter. And we will publish notice in the federal register of the Effective Date. Is there any estimate how long this will take for o. M. B. To approve it . That can take months. Only the transparency rules will require o. M. B. Rules, correct . Thats right. Any other questions . The identity of the speaker is sorry. [inaudible] thank you. Thank you very much. Finally, next would be two media items. Are there any on the cable question . Only. We have one on the cable tv. Why dont you just come up . Matt. Communications daily. My one question is between the draft item and item approved today, any substantial changes made . Can you describe how different, where different . I think commissioner clyburn discussed her office requested we ask some questions about opt in rather than an opt out proposal with respect to the paper notices and the other commissioners agreed. Beyond that there was nothing . Nothing significant. Any other questions for either item . Monty. Yeah, michelle. Monty. Comp daily. I would like to ask the math question. Was there any lobbying on ownership . Didnt see any ex parte there was no activity in the docket. Ok. Any change at all . No. Ok. Thank you. Anything further . We have several commissioners waiting in the wing. I think commissioner clyburn is here, we go in seniority order. Commissioner orielly, if you are here, go ahead. Ok. Thats fine. Howdy, yall. Hows everybody. Any questions for me or commissioner carr . Sorry. Question over here. Question for commissioner orielly. I guess i have a hard time last ing, say, in the commission you saying the f. C. C. Didnt have authority to act but voting anyway, can you square that sorry, this is on media ownership, revising cap in the discount. If you dont think full stop that f. C. C. Can do this, why not just say, look, you know, congress, we really need you guys to step in and change this but our hands are tied . Commissioner orielly i said that in my statement. I said there are a lot of good lawyers in town including the Third Circuit court of appeals in philadelphia said i was wrong. I accept the fate that i may be wrong. I dont blike that belief. I testified i think im right. Commissioner congressman doyle, congressman Ranking Member doyle asked if i was right. In this case im guaranteed by the parties that i know are going to challenge the situation if we ever get to final order which is unclear at this moment. Well see what the record brings. But if we get to that point it will be challenged as all media ownership issues have been challenged since the 1996 act that im aware of. I dont know we left any pieces out and said in that time period. So it will be challenged and well got finality. Id like to see finality to that irnue. I havent called on congress and talked about those things. Its either courts or congress to resolve this issue. Yes, sir. Matt. Communications daley. I guess the question for both. Given disney, fox, can you give us your thoughts on media consolidation and the f. C. C. Having a review in this proposed transaction . And cat fancy . Commissioner orielly i was not part of the cat fancy part so i dont it was funny and i laughed but i wasnt part of it. How it came about. But to your point, i make it a practice never to talk about pending perspective, any mergers in any capacity. I have to pass on your question regarding the specific merger you say. In the issue of consolidation in general, the idea of the media landscape, i made the argument that we need a better analysis and definition of the marketplace. The marketplace is no longer one radio station, a. M. Fighting as a. M. s and f. M. Is fighting as f. M. s. Its everybody fighting for eyeballs or listeners and that includes all the technology companies. That marketplace is much more broad than before. When i see conversations for many months now in terms of why companies would do x, why or z and not mentioning this particular information but people talking about streaming and things that go in that universe, we need a better measurement, a better analysis, definition of the marketplace to reflect today and not the past. So thats my viewpoint. Nothing specific to offer on any particular deal. And media regulation, i put a couple statements so far. Id refer you to those. Generally my view is we need po make sure our views are reflecting the marketplace and where theres competition. Reporter ill ask two questions. One on Net Neutrality and the other on wireless infrastructure. First, Net Neutrality. There was just a big hullabaloo outside you talk to people like at the health club or whatever and everybody is thinking about Net Neutrality [inaudible] reporter church, anyplace. People talk and they think they understand. I think there might be a lot from your perspective, is there a lot of confusion out there and how does the commission sort of turn the corner on that in terms of really getting the word out in terms of from your perspective, this is all we did here . Commissioner orielly i think the amount of Public Engagement is welcomed. Its commissioner carr that should get people passionate. To your question weve seen a lot of misinformation out there. The sky is not falling. How do we know that . Think back to 2015. Thats the regulatory framework, the title 1 regulatory framework. I think a lot of people are looking at title 2, there is a thin line between where we are and some balkanized version of the internet. Thats not the case. Title 2 does not do the things that people are attributing to it. There are reasons why we have a free and open internet that predated title 2 and title 2 rules. Those reasons are staying in place. There are strong protections here. This isnt an experiment with some sort of radical laissez faire approach to the internet. I think there is a lot of hyperbole out there. Thats fine. Well see it plays out. Im confident in the decisions were making. It doesnt give me any pause theres that much in it. I dont think there should be. Commissioner orielly i agree with commissioner carr. I love that the public is engaged. I lamented in the past that some of our items didnt have a lot of commentary. There was a question to me many months ago should we put some kind of fee before someone should be allowed to comment . I thought that was terrible. I think we run a process to allow as many people comment on the issue. I commented regarding some of the false comments and some of the fake comments that were submitted in my statement. Youll see you can have that. So im glad that people are engaged. It doesnt cause me heartburn. I think its healthy overall for that purpose. Now to your second part, i think commissioner carr hits it on the hits the nail on the head. The second part which we talked about today, every day Going Forward when the internet isnt broken, were going to its going to reaffirm our point. I know there was a publication, i any it was represented here today, the end of the internet as we know it. The front story. I thought that was just er in extending the hyperbole. Take a deep breath. People my friends my family do the same thing. Whats happening on this issue . And im like, everyone take a deep breath. It is going to work out. The internet is going to function exactly as it did exactly is a strong word. Work as well as it is today. As well as it will work tomorrow. I dont have any issues with that. To the second part of the question i will get to, what if bad things happen, right . My question my point has been, i dont see the authority in the statute. We talk about 706. I talked about that at length for multiple years on the topic. Thats a prerogative for congress to change the statute. People say, well, the courts have blast title 2. No. They said is we have deference to that. We are disagreeing, if you read the item, we are disagreeing with nair analysis and have stronger logical reasons for our definitions and our approach and this item is the right reading. Deference is different than the court saying you are right, we agree with you, you have picked the right outcome. Thats a difference saying basically, well, were not exactly going to throw it out. I guess you can sneak by. Thats how that last item, in y opinion, went through. Reporter and the infrastructure question. Twilight towers, i know youve been talking about this for a long time. Are there other items like that are sort of hanging out . Are there other things that are sort of a nobrainer thing . Commissioner orielly i have to defer to my reporter that the commission could do in a relatively quick time frame that i just dont know if thats unique, thats a problem that was are there similar things like that . Commissioner orielly they are big ticket items on. I will spend time now that the Net Neutrality rule is behind us. Commissioner carr how do we package that. Thats how i will spend the next couple weeks. Moved one this month, twilight towers. Whether we can move some of these smaller ones or move to a bigger one, thats something i will work through the next couple weeks. Commissioner orielly i thank commissioner carr for his leadership on this issue. I think we are all waiting for the meeting in january and see what the recommendations are and be able to influence our decision and take recommendations and see what we like and dont like and go from there. Reporter dave from reuters. As you know the n. P. R. , the title 2 order, the question is should you retain any of the bright line rules. Was there much debate about that issue . Did you quickly come about that decision . How did you get to where you ended up . Commissioner orielly as i will speak for myself, the chair the three didnt sit down and violate any statutory prohibition. I think our views are very wellknown on this topic. Im pretty outspoken on the topic. Its not shocking i disagree with the bright line rules. I mentioned today they fall i dont think theyre needed in terms of the examples that people highlight. I dont have any doubt i have i have no doubt that companies are not going to block and not going to throttle except for reasonable network management. I dont i think they are risking an up Team Public Relations pummeling that would not be they have said as much publicly and have done ads to that effect as well. Thats why im pretty confident between the internet you have today is the internet you have tomorrow Going Forward. What were working really hard on, more deployment and better speeds and removing some of the arriers to that to happen. Reporter i have a question i wanted to ask which is totally different. Do either of you how do both i you feel about the am too close . About the request from small carriers that operate under the acam that are looking to see that increase at the end of the year, any thoughts on how the f. C. C. Should deal with those requests . Commissioner carr i spent a lot of time on reform. I testified in front of congress that i thought there was an opportunity to use some of our reserves. Commissioner orielly to build out. And that happened on the acam side. I dont think you can do one without the other. There is an opportunity in some of those reserves for that purpose. Thats something the commission will have to look at Going Forward. I realize its tied to the bigger budgetary 4. 5 number. Ive been up to speed on this. Well see what the commission and the chairman would like to do on that topic. I cant get too far ahead. Commissioner carr nothing to add. No news to break on it. Reporter commissioner orielly, first part of the question. Why do you want to throttle my cat videos . Thats really not cool. Second actual part of the question, i talked a little bit to the chairman about rating and where he sees these practices going. You referred to the zero rating witchhunt as you put it, where do you see data cap sort of practices, zero rating practices going under the new policy . Commissioner orielly first, i have no interest throttling your cat videos. Sometimes what they need to do, prioritization of traffic which already happens today. That does highlight prioritization does occur. In terms of paid prioritization or subset of zero rating at least my definition, some people try to keep it separate but i think its indicative of paid prioritization. Without the valuable experiences from zero rating we wouldnt have the unlimited bundles that we have today in wireless space. Its been immensely beneficial. I thought the practices from the Prior Commission on the zero rating investigation incredibly problematic. They can never define for me whats happening until the day after basically the election and then all of a sudden they had a viewpoint. But where i think this is going in a large sense, part of our job and part of our work, at least in my opinion, is to get as much spectrum out in the marketplace, to remove barriers so people can build higher speed, more advanced Wireless Networks so having things like data caps are not necessary. Traffic management becomes less of an issue with a faster network, with a more capable network. Were trying to facilitate that on our side. The networks themselves have to do their part. Any other questions . I dont see mr. Donnelly anywhere. Nope. Ok. Reporter again, for the both of you. Senator blumenthal is talking about d. O. J. Trying to extend conditions on comcast, nbc, past the 2022 expiration. Are there discussions of extension of conditions that were imposed back in 2011 by the f. C. C. Or should there be . Commissioner orielly i havent had any discussions. You can check my ex parte. They have raised that issue. I am debating considering the issue and see if the chairman sends anything my way. Commissioner carr yeah, i have not had any internal deliberations on that issue. I think i also took one external meeting on that. Nothing beyond that. Commissioner orielly if you dont have questions we will go to lunch and leave you to our good colleagues. Good afternoon. The commissioner and i would entertain any questions you will have. I did get one question from someone who could not join us. If you allow me to i normally dont this but they went out of their way. This isly vy from b