Senate. If all of the time is used. Again, for republicans, 2027488921. For democrats, 20274 892, and for independents, 2027488922. Let me read you the reporting of brian fowler, the house to vote again on a tax overhaul after a senate glitch and here are the details. The house is expected to have to vote again tomorrow on the republicans sweeping tax legislation after a number of provisions were ruled out of order in the senate. However, writes politico, it is not likely to stop the momentum for long with the legislation still on track to be delivered to President Trump this week. The senate is expected to vote on the bill tuesday night, this evening, after striking these provisions known as the byrd rule, by the way, which relates to expanding the tax Advantage College savings account and taxing college endowments. Politico writes the stumble is an embarrassment for the republicans who hours before were celebrating on the house floor and getting cue dotes from President Trump for passing the landmark bill and sending it to the senate. It also plays into the hands of democrat who was been saying the speed with which republicans are pushing the plan is a recipe for chaos. Lets get to your phone calls on all of this. Kareem is joining us from davenport, iowa, democrats line, your reaction. Caller i called both of my senators today. Told them theyre fooling no one. The tax bill is a tax scam for the majority of americans. Host why do you say that . Caller why do i say that . Because its ive heard it over and over again. 3 of the whats happening in this tax bill is all going to the wealthy. Its about the estate tax, its about gutting corporation taxes, and giving a tax wind fall to the wealthiest people in the country, not to mention all of those extra things they put in just to get different senators votes. They put the thing in for corker, for real estate. And they put the thing in for mruczkowski about drilling up in the Arctic National wildlife represh preserve. Yeah. Its an abomination. Thats what it is. Host thanks for the call. Jim, boca raton, florida, republican line. Your thoughts on whats been happening today, tonight, and this week on the tax bill. Caller well, its been a couple of decades since we reformed our code and even the democrats and the socialists know that we have the highest Corporate Tax rate in the world. Donald trump got elected, one of the thick he is got elected on was bringing jobs back to america. These folks who are criticizing the bill so vociferously dont have a clue about how economics works. Once this bill gets passed, we will see trillions of dollars coming back to the country. Well see Economic Growth like we did under Ronald Reagan and john kennedy when we cut taxes and the third point, or final point, would be anyone thats taken basic economics in college or even high school, but in college, will know that corporations do not pay taxes. They pass taxes on to consumer. So this is a consumer relief package as well. Those who are agonizing over this should be very happy. That we are finally going to reduce the taxes on our corporations and on individuals in this country and we will see a subsequent boom in our economy. Thank you very much. Host jim from boca raton. According to the bill, the Corporate Tax rate will be cut from 35 down to 21 . It was at 20 but increased as part of negotiations among house and Senate Republicans. Trying to figure out a way to pay for the bill. Its posted on our website at cspan. Org. The Senate Continues its debate and were live on cspan2 right now, the house recessed for the evening, back tomorrow morning at 9 00 a. M. Eastern for what many are calling a revote a parliamentary procedure where some of the provisions have been taken out of the senate bill in order to pass senate rules and then because of those changes it has to go back to the house for another vote. It is expected to pass, just delaying it by perhaps a couple of hours before it gets to the president s desk. You can see senator tess tore live on the senate floor at this hour. Anita is joining us from florida, democrats line. Good evening. Caller good evening. Id like to share with you that i am first of all very upset that were pushing this through in such a way that we dont give people a chance to really study and know what its about. I resent the young man who just got through saying that if we were claiming something was wrong with it its because we didnt understand economics. Ive heard multiple economic people that all have a different view. Nobody knows how this is going to turn out. And they wont know for some time. I also think its very unhealthy for both sides, republicans to bribe people with, well give you some money back, hepping that its going to make them happy, and democrats, well help you stay dependent on the government. We need people that will grow, take care of themselves, as much as possible, but us be there to help them when they need help. Host anita, thanks for the call. Vice president mike pence delayed his trip to the middle east, hell be departing in mid january so hes on hand in the unlikely event that they need him, he is available. Senator john mccain is back in arizona as he continues to deal with cancer treatment. Senator thad cochran is back on the floor of the senate. Lets go to florida, independent line, mark, what do you think . Caller absolutely following it, im a true independent since 1976. President ial voting has been pretty much halfandhalf. Voted once for president obama, sec time i did not, i voted for trump this election, and with regard to the tax bill i would say a stick of dynamite. I believe the tax bill, taxes needed to be lowered, for not only Corporate America but most americans. Thats our money. And this the reason i call it a stick of dynamite is the economy at this point is humming, 3 , Gross National product up the last two quarters. Feds project 4g this year. We have not seen that kind of growth for the last, probably 10 years. It was absent in the obama administration. And the reason i call it a stick of dynamite, if this helps spur the economy even higher than its going now, this will explode on the democrats in the 2018 election. Due to the fact that they state on sat on their hands and did nothing but gripe, never getting involved with the republicans to try to get together on a joint bill and like i said if the conomy spurs forward to g. N. P. Of 4 or 5 , theyll be in serious damage control come 2018, the democrats. Conversely, same with the republicans. If it goes backwards and contributes to the deficit significantly then the same could happen to them in 2018. Lets wait and see. Host mark, thank you for the call. Aaron is joining us live on the phone, hes been following this for politico , he covers taxes. Thanks for bling with us. Guest sure, happy to be here. Host first explain what happened after the house vote today and what we can expect tonight and tomorrow. Guest well, ill answer your second question first. What you can expect is the same outcome, the house and the Senate Republicans will pass this tax package but they had a hiccup here. A stumble, if you will. Kind of a technical thing. Democrats werent able to, because of the technique or rules that republicans are passing this bill on, reconciliation, theres some pretty strict budget rules they have to abide by and if democrats challenge any provisions that they believe dont meet those budget rules, and they are ruled out of order, that does kind of reset the process. And so certain provisions are going to have to be stripped out because two of them, at least two of them, were found to be in violation of these budget rules. And theyll have to revote. The senate will vote it tonight as scheduled. They just will vote on a plan that doesnt have these two provisions that are in question and thatll send it back to the house tomorrow for passage again but this time without the two provisions in question. Host how big a deal is that in terms of these provisions . Guest theyre not central to the overall package in terms of what the bill is trying to do. Backs of the bill think it will do. I would say well let me describe them for you. Theyre both education related. One is related to tax advantage savings plan, known as 529 ceyings plans, under section 529. In this case it would allow people who do homeschooling to use tax advantaged savings for homeschool purposes, i guess, you know, supplies and things of that nature. That was found to have no budgetary impact and so thats being taken out of the package. And the other provision thats being stripped out is related to taxing college endowments. The overall bill includes an cise tax proposal on certain endowments above a certain size, ertain amount of money and there was an exemption for schools with certain number of schools. I think it was 500, that they would be allowed to not face this tax. Thats also being removed. So those two things, the house will have to vote again, the house passed the bill this afternoon, early afternoon, 227203. I dont think that youd expect a dramatic change. One thing to keep an eye on though is, you know, even though this didnt stop the bill, its just a stumble here, it does offer ammunition for democrats in congress and anyone else who has been opposed to this. Theyve been saying for months now, the last couple of months, that this process has been so rushed that this is going to lead to mistakes an the bill, the law, the new law is going to have to get revisited and you know, certain fixes are going to be necessary. This to them is foreshadowing that thats going to happen down the road. Host were talking to Aaron Lorenzo, who has been following the details on this for politico. His work is Available Online at politico. Com. A tweet from steve scalise, republican whip. Were cutting tax rates, americans will keep more of their hardearned money. This will realy get into the weeds. Maybe you can explain it as simply as possible. Its known as the byrd rule, named after the late senator robert c. Byrd of west virginia. It has to go through what some refer to as the byrd bath. For those interested in themy knew shah of the parliamentary procedure in the senate what oes that mean . Guest let me see if i can do the byrd bath justice. What it means in this case is provisions in any bill thats going to get passed on what i refer to earlier, reconciliation, that means these provisions have to have some ort of budgetary impact. A person who makes that decision, the Senate Parliamentarian, that person agreed with democrats who challenged these couple of provisions in saying that theyre they dont have a budget impact. The parliamentarian agreed. Thats why theyre being stricken from the conference agreement. And thats why were talking about this right now. But then that in short, the byrd bath refers to opponents of a bill bringing up a challenge because they believe that it goes against the byrd rule and one of the byrd rules is this budget impact. Issue. Host senator byrd was legendary in his knowledge of senate rules and the parliamentary procedure. Aaron lorenzo on a very busy evening, thank you very much for explaining what all this means. We, of course, will be following whats happening in the senate and your work at politico. Com. Thanks for being with us. Guest thank you. Host well come back to more of your phone calls and reaction to the house vote today. The Senate Voting tonight, a revote in the house tomorrow. Well have it for you tomorrow morning when the house convenes at 9 00 a. M. Eastern time. Well begin the day with washington journal. Back with more of your calls. But first as the process unfolded, heres senator ron wyden and senator bernie sanders, independent from vermont and ron wyden a democrat from oregon. Provisions airdropped from lobbies into this legislation in the middle of the night. You and i were part of a socalled Conference Committee last week where we didnt even have the relevant bill in front of us. Were asking questions about bills that really didnt exist. If i could ask my colleague from oregon a simple question. As Ranking Member of the finance committee, this is a bill that deals with trillions of dollars. Impact ours entire economy. Impacts every person in america. Would you mind telling the American People just how many hearings there were to hear from economists, to hear from the business community, to hear from labor, to hear from senior advocates, how many public hearings were there to discuss this rather long and complicated bill . Senator wyden there was not one single hearing to discuss the specifics of the legislation before us today. The legislation before us today involves 10 trillion worth of changes in tax policy. And our colleagues on the other side trumpet this idea that there were 70 hearings and i think what theyre talking about is over the years, people would come in and talk about this idea or that. In general. Correct. But there was not one single hearing with respect to the specifics of the bill and id like to turn, if i could, to this work that my colleague has played such an Important Role on, im happy to have partnered with him and thats the consequences of all this reckless haste and secretive process. In my view, really legislative malpractice when you and i have been working on, an we got a bill that is full of mistakes that are going to have unintended consequences, opening many new loopholes for the wealthy and crafty accountants and lawyers. Now you and i have been working to try to weed out of this legislation, violations of what is called the byrd rule which in english basically just means you cant stuff provisions into a bill that really dont deal with tax and spending. Now, by my count, you and i have already pushed more than 20 byrd rule violations that had to be corrected and i just want to give people, before i ask my question, a little bit of the idea of the work you and i have been doing over the last few days. Late friday night you and i were able to overturn provisions that would have turned church into political organizations. Specifically, theres the johnson amendment, named after lyndon johnson, that barred churches from endorsing partisan political activity and political candidates. And the way that the bill was written and why you and i sought to get it struck and were successful, it would have turned churches and sham charity into political machines where they could be conduits for billions and billions of dollars in dark money. Senator sanders in other words, as i understand what you are saying is that Billionaire Campaign contributors could then legally put money into churches who will then do the political work they otherwise would have been doing. Senator wyden absolutely and in effect what we would have and i think we need to tell america about this, because we won this round but you and i are back at this fight with our colleagues again this would have been Citizens United 2. 0. This would be another version of the push to have unaccountable, dark money spilling into billions of dollars, poured into elections through churches and Sham Charities and turning to the question now of this evening, it looks to me like we now found several others, byrd rule violations, that would seem to me to be a further indication of rash and reckless legislating that does not serve the American People well. So i would wrap up by asking my colleagues from my colleague from vermont, and i want to tell him its been a pleasure to work in partnership with him on this, are these byrd rule violations weve been going after, and that youre going to discuss again tonight, arent these just a textbook case of what happens when you legislate with reckless hate . Senator sanders absolutely. Its not only mistakes made, its when you dent open the doors to the American People, economists, to mayors, to governors, to business people, to leaders in the labor movement, to see what do you want to see in tax reform . When you dont do that, when you conduct your business behind closed doors, not only do you end up with legislation that represents the needs of the billionaire class, but you also make a number of mistakes and in that regard, i would tell my friend that this afternoon, the Senate Parliamentarian advised that certain provisions of the republican tax legislation violate the byrd rule, including a provision allowing for the use of 529 savings accounts for homeschooling expenses, the short title of the tax cut and jobs act and part of the criteria used to determine whether the endowments of private universitys are subject to the legislations new excise tax. These provisions may be struck from the conference report absent 60 votes and with that, mr. President , i raise the following points of order. Against the pending conference report. That subsection 11,000 a violates section 313b1a of the congressional budget act of 1974, that subparagraph b of section 11,032 starting on page 5, line 17, and all through page 6 line 9, violates section 313b1d of the congressional udget act of 1974 and that the phrase, quote, tuition paying, end quote, as it appears on page 309, line 12 and page 309 lines 14 through 15, violates section 313b1d of the congressional udget act of 1974. Hip thats how it unfolded around 5 40 eastern time two senators, bernie sanders, independent of vermont and ron wyden, democrat of oregon, putting up a procedural hurdle for Congressional Republicans as they move forward on their tax bill. Here are some tweets, this is from senator john tester, were tracking both democrats an republicans on twitter. The senate is hours away from passing a bill that will add more than 1 trillion to the national debt, force cuts to medicare and cause Health Care Costs to rise by 6 . And this from senator tammy baldwin, democrat from isconsin, calling it goptaxscam, giving powerful corporations permanent tax breaks. She says the top 1 will see 83 of the benefits, millions of middle class families will face tax hikes and future generations will get higher deficits and debt. The debate continues on the senate floor, vote expected later tonight, we want to hear from you. We have daisy on the line for