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CSPAN Washington Journal December 27, 2017

Hollywood saw the initial impact from the movement, it went into politics also at the resignation of several members of congress, and calls for capitol hill to improve how claims of Sexual Assault are handled. For your thoughts on the movement and its influence in the next hour, we invite you to call in on two lines. For women, 202 7488000. For men, 202 7488001. You can post at cspanwj on our twitter feed and give your thoughts on facebook at facebook. Com cspan. The Chicago Tribune talks about the movement and its founder, miss burke, who coined the phrase. She is a survivor of Sexual Assault and she wanted to do something to help women and girls of color who had survived Sexual Violence as well. It moves on in the timeline to talk about the influence in hollywood with the active kevin spacey becoming the focus of claims against him and timeline also talks about the influence it had in politics, highlighting the Washington Post into their piece that was published about roy moore. Which ended up with him losing that election in the Alabama Special Senate election. Again, the me too movement and its influence are the thoughts for this first hour and getting your thoughts on it too. We want to show you if it from toronto burke herself, she spoke at a Forum Earlier this year about why she thinks they were a big influence this year. The reality is people do not to talk about this issue, they do know what to amplify these discussions and are those of us that have worked in Sexual Violence, we go out and we work hard and we are in our communities trying to amplify the voice of survivors, but it is not a popculture issue. And for me, i found working with black and brown girls in the south, you cannot get more marginalized than that. So it had to have popculture, the light of popculture to shine on it so people would Pay Attention. So in ways i am grateful for that, because now we have a National Conversation we have never had before. I definitely did not see this, foresee this in 2006 when we started doing this work. There was no such thing. Twitter, it had not even started yet. So it was not the vision. But we did have a vision to have something that survivors could connect to that was simple. But it showed in exchange for empathy, that people connected with each other. It is easy for somebody to say, when you tell your story of any can of trauma, for them to say i am so side that happened to you. The other person is wellmeaning and wants to make you feel comfortable, but there is still a distance there between you and them. The same as it happened to you, not me. The difference is when somebody shares something that is the most romantic thing that happened to them and at the end of that you can say me too. There is a connection that happened that it leaves for the two of you or three of you, it is a liberation that you cannot trade for anything in the world. There is no money that can help you have that feeling of having a connection with somebody that says, i am not alone, i am not crazy, i am not an anomaly, these feelings i have are real and genuine. That is what this meeting movement is about. Host you heard her talk about the National Conversation people are having about the movement and we are getting your thoughts on it as well. 202 7488000 for women. 202 7488001 for men to give your thoughts. You can post on our twitter feed, and facebook is available to you as well. Two posts, rich saying people have abused it for iffy situations. Patricia this morning saying, time to start the dirty secret has been exposed. That is a way to get your thoughts how this morning about the influence. You can tell about your personal story, the influence on culture and particularly on politics. We have a color from caller from pennsylvania, go ahead. Caller i think it is all ridiculous. President trump is doing what he said he was going to do. He is going to clean the swamp. And i think it is a necessary thing. People should be exposed. HIllary Clinton is trying to convince everybody that she was not guilty, but she was. Host all of those things aside, what do you think about the me too movement . What has its influence been . Caller i think there is no reason for those women to be nasty. Uh, but you know, nobody can help if they are beautiful. Nobody can help if they speak five languages. I think Melania Trump and his daughter are beautiful, and what that woman said, that trump is using her as a sex symbol, that is absolutely ridiculous. Host that was loretta from pennsylvania. The Chicago Tribune looks at a story from Samantha Bond camp, who writes about the movement in 2018 and if it will actually create real change when it comes to the workplace. She writes in a june 2060 report, a year before allegations against Harvey Weinstein were reported, suggested that managers such an uptick would show victims are comfortable coming forward. Such a harassment reporting has remained s teady over the last decade. The eoc received dozens of complaints in 2016, including Sexual Harassment in the workplace. It goes on to quote Adam Hochstein, the founder and ceo for strata. Puthinks this movement has managers on notice to prevent workplace harassment, including Adam Hochstein himself who brought it up in the meeting in december, saying they can put a check in the box when you talk about policies with employees, but i do not think anybody has brought into the forefront like it should have been. Sylvia from washington state, hello. Go ahead. Caller thank you for taking my call. I have called before. I really enjoy your show. In, i am very proud of those women who have had the courage to come forward. When i was growing up, and having the abuse stuff happening to me and ill throw my life, i have had to really all throughout my life, i have had to really push myself to call somebody. When i was young you did not dare say anything about any nd i haveng on a had jobs where they have had you wear clothes like a waitress, and these people would say, i want her. They do not want food, they pointed at me. And when i asked the boss, why do you make me wear these clothes . He would say, sex sells. Host do you think the movement will be longlasting, or shortlived, what do you think will happen as far as the impact it will have . Caller i am hoping for the best, because there are still children being abused every day, children being sold every day into sexual slavery. And it is still happening. Even my granddaughter was sexually abused by a quote, y outh minister that worked on her until she gave in. It was really a nightmare. Host we will hear next from jenny from ohio, lancaster, ohio. You are on. Caller good morning. You know, i think i feel that for these women who have gone through this. I have gone through it, but you know what, you get over it. Maybe we should worry about north korea and china and russia and the things that are really important. And i understand some of these women got into the situations. You know what, it has happened to me and i got over it. You do not hear me going around get over it. Men and women are different, they just are. Host jenny giving her thoughts this morning. You are also welcome to give your thoughts. 202 7488000 for women. 202 7488001 for men. Russell in the oped section of the Washington Examiner writes about the me too movement and she writes under the headline, saying the primary thing the me too movement has created is an awareness of the disciplinary action of men in positions of power and the open harassment, assaulting women who were beneath them. This is progress, of ending decades of secrecy and shame that the women have entered. Yet the me too movement has created also a secondary issue of allegations of abuse that not demonstrate national dime Natural Dynamics between men and women. An unwanted kiss was a compliment that seems bumbling. The attempt to roll all of these instances together and declare them as equally harmful is disingenuous and it will backfire and create a dynamic where all women are basically victims and all men are the perpetrators. Maxine is in new baltimore, michigan. You are next. Caller hi. Good morning. This is maxine. I think this me to movement is going to hurt women more than help them. I will give you some background. I am 78 years old. When i started working, there were no women in the field i was in. I had a boss tell me, we never considered hiring a woman before, but we had never had one with your qualifications, so we will take a chance on you. Women do not realize what we went through to make a way for them. And naturally i was sexually harassed, but i used to tell them, do not start with me. Do not start a habit you cannot keep. Also, women have got ways to deal with Sexual Harassment. You do not have to run to hr, you do not have to run to someone to cry on their shoulder. Use a little humor, use your brain instead of whining and crying. It is natural for them to make passes at women, that is natural, that is nature. You are not going to change it. This movement is going to hurt women more than help them, because men are going to be hesitant about hiring women are working with them and that is all i have to say. Host getting your opinions so far on the me too movement as it has been called. Your thoughts are welcome on the line or you can post on our facebook feed and our twitter page. You can also take a look at this piece by Jenna Mcgregor in the Washington Post this morning, talking about the me too movement and how it will speed up the number of women in leadership positions, or will it slow it down. Movement,e current with it lead them to management roles or hold them back as the me too movement takes place in workplace after workplace with the risk of headlines or extensive legal proceedings. Some experts worry backlash to the moment from overly cautious men in organizations with unfair expeditions for the women, who did get promoted, her the numbers rather than help them. Others are cautiously optimistic that the current tremors will finally move the needle. The recent allegations that put a spotlight on the lack of women in powerful rules. Roles. A research and consulting organization, the leader says, they will say why women do not get top jobs, but they are seen as a risky bet because of the stereotypes people have, but now may be men are the risky bet and good but asking about the risk of not having women in power. Bill in kentucky. Caller yes . Host your own. Caller i do not want to detract from the horrible he behavior of Harvey Weinstein, but when i was a young man i had a girl tell lies on me that were completely untrue. I do noter her reason, know, but i have to tell you that i have seen women lie. Just because they Say Something does not mean it is true. I do not want to downplay people who are being abused, but i have to say that this is wrong the way that they are going about it. To think every time a woman says something is true is the height of stupidity. Host is there a better way to go about it . Caller she goes and she filed a complaint with the Police Department. They issue a warrant and they take you to court. If you are not willing to do it, do not say you are being abused. That way you know if somebody has been convicted of sexual abuse or Something Like that, but especially do not sit around for 1015 years and come out later with somebody is running for office and to something, that is stupid. Host how do you deal with issues of harassment, say in a workplace . Caller well, first of all you have to define harassment. Who, in what persons mind is harassment actually there . Somebody asks somebody out on a date, is that harassment . If somebody tells a woman that she is dressed nice, is that harassment . When they start putting their hands on you, that is harassment my will draw the line right there. Host that is bill giving his thoughts this morning. We have divided the lines for men and women. Men, 202 7488001. Women, 202 7488000. Gabrielle in brooklyn. Caller good morning. Host go ahead. Caller i was calling because i see a lot of people are, maybe like from the older generation and i like to say that with the me too movement i think it is something, i think it is a great conversation that we have opened up the door for, and i think it is something that has to be discussed. Unfortunately, there are a lot of things about the system that we live in, the way that we live, that will not be right, but they just have been. When i hear older women say, i have been sexually assaulted and you get over it, no, we should be educating people to respect one another and to teaching our boys to respect girls, even though we have natural urges, it is not ok to do whatever you feel like. So i think that there needs to be a conversation and there should be accountability. And i think that it is a great conversation piece and unfortunately it does make way for people to have, to make allegations that might not be true, but i think that it happens more often then not and people do not understand that sexual advances or a comment or a wink, it may not be your intention to make somebody feel a certain type of way, but it can be uncomfortable for people and i think that we need to have a conversation about people respecting one another and young a conversation about, know, just because men or more sexual than women it does not mean it is ok for them to slap you when they see you. Host do you think that there is long lasting change because of the movement, or do you call a conversation, you think ultimately change comes from it . Caller i think change is coming from it and i think there is a lot that has happened in the past few years, with thankfully the presence of social media, that is more accountability and i think that is why a lot more people are realizing, this is not just me this has happened to because there is a place where people can have dialogue, there is a place where the girl in the town next to me may have gone through a similar situation as me but i would have never known that, should i see a tweet or a repost or something, now i see, amy from wherever has gone through this as well and im not the only victim. And i think as peoples attention is brought to it, because that is a conversation, there has to be changed from it because this is a serious issue and people are, women do not want to be ostracized. We do not want to be victimized. We do not want to be all these things. We are powerful and beautiful entity that needs to be respected in all shapes and forms from all people. Host that was gabrielle giving her thoughts on the me too movement. This in todays pages of the washington times, from the associated press, writing about officialsSexual Assault complaint coming against the President Trumps foreign saying amanagers, congressional candidate said on tuesday that she filed a Sexual Assault complaint against him for hitting her twice on her buttocks in november. She said sheker, plans to meet with detectives in washington next week about the complaint against Corey Lewandowski saying she saw him at a gathering at the trump hotel on the day after thanksgiving and it said that he struck her extremely hard, even after she told him to stop, and she said she thought it was disgusting and demeaning. That she isto say considering a run for a florida congressional seat and said she initially thought it was Sexual Harassment and police told her that it constitutes Sexual Assault and she was told it was classified as a misdemeanor. We will hear from stacy from virginia. Caller good morning. Good morning, america. I think the me too movement is going to hurt women and it will make it difficult for them to get jobs. I have been sexually harassed, but it has mostly been by women. And i have been ostracized when i reported it. I worked at the Radio Station and it ended up on the don and mike show on wjfk. I reported it and she got vicious with me and i ended up getting out of radio because of her. And nobody is talking about when women sexually harass other women. And that has happened to me as recently as a couple weeks ago, when i went to the military ball. So i feel like the Womens Movement is a bad thing, because it is grouping child molesters with sexual harassers, with assault, and those are different things. If you assault somebody or molest a child, that is a criminal problem. If somebody is hitting on you are trying to pick you up and you feel uncomfortable, report them to hr, or tell a joke. That is how i deal with Sexual Harassment, i tell a joke about it and i move on. But i think this movement will hurt women because people will be reluctant to hire them, especially a woman like me. Not to brag, but i am attractive, i am very curvy, and im afraid if i go apply for a job people will say, no, that is insurrection will assault waiting to happen. We cannot hire her. Lets go with somebody else. I feel like the me too movement has taken away from important issues that we are dealing with today, be at the russian coup we are dealing with, the gop cooperating, conspiring with russia to overthrow an election and to assault the fbi to cover up their crime. We have serious issues that we need to be dealing with. Host ok. Lets go to logan in virginia. Actually we will go to lawrence in washington dc. Caller hello. Good morning, pedro. And to your listening audience. The key to the whole problem is called morals. Women have them and men have them. Morals,ou know them we should start looking from the top, from the president all the way down. If you have morals. , men do not do things to women, and women do not do things that will be offensive to men. Each of us can tell it individual person, stop. This is not what i expect of you, this is not what you should expect of me.

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