Transcripts For CSPAN Cities Tour - Traverse City Michigan 2

Watch anytime online at cspan. Org or listen from wherever you are on the go using the free cspan radio app. Next, a book tv exclusive. Our cities tour visits Traverse City michigan to learn more about the unique history and literary life. For eight years we have traveled to cities ringing the book seemed to our viewers. You can watch more of our visits at cspan. Org. The years leading up to my divorce and postdivorce, a lot in aruggles have been compressed period of time. Over one year i got divorced. I was suddenly a single parent. I was unemployed with this grand plan to make my life as a writer. Of raising myal children in a rural setting. There was quite a bit of drama. A lot of suffering. There was a lot of togetherness. It was the four of us against the world. I wanted to document that. I had a nickname for my house. It was named after the big Valley Television show. I remember driving past this house and seeing the forsale sign. , iore i even looked at it said i dont know what i have to do to live in that house but i will be living in that house. I was married at the time. Living here was certainly my dream. I dont know if it was necessarily my exhusbands dream. I moved into the house in 1996. It was about seven years later that we got divorced. There was a sense of relief. Pretty soon after that it was somewhat terrifying to me to i had a rather large house the care ofand also the animals. At the time we had horses, chickens, we were raising a pig with the neighbors. Three sons, ise wanted there to be no interruption in their enjoyment of life. Want the divorce to impact them in any negative way. Of how i was terrified would maintain all of that. I also sort of had this attitude that i would think about this life in 30 day increments. That was the mortgage payment. The first would come and somehow i would make the payment. Exhale ford take an 30 days. During that month i would plan for the next month. Somehow i would make that payment and say you did it for 30 more days. That seems like a harrowing way to live. Every month i would think, it is just temporary. Just temporary turned out to be two years. To live here it takes either money or labor. We had no money. We had to find it would to foot to put in the fireplace. I would keep the furnace set at 50 and the rest of the house would be heated by one fireplace in the living room. I didnt have a chainsaw. The boys and i would drive around and around here a lot of people heat with wood. There are always tons of trucks that are full with wood. When they take those sharp corners, a lot falls off. My kids and i would drive around and fill the van up. We would cut our own trees. I wasnt expecting to do that but we did it. It worked. We managed to keep our house was somewhat warm during that time. We didnt have a lot of money to shop at the Grocery Store. I would grow things that we could make at the house, vegetables, potatoes, chicken, eggs. I could not have done that by myself. And 12, they7, 9, could really work. Becauseeat memory we lived so rural, if you live chickens,and you have you dont really need a rooster. In the kitchen where there is in the country where there are weasels, and foxes, you need a rooster. We had a very aggressive rooster. My kids job was to collect the eggs feed collect the and feed the chicken. They would use a trash can lid and their bicycle helmets and they would go in to feed the chickens and gather the eggs. They were very proud of their haul. Said unemployed but i was doing a lot of freelance writing. I was editing other peoples works. I had a lot of freelance jobs that came to me over the internet or through email. Work told send me their edit. Was starting to get the idea for my first book. I made my name by being a true crime an investigative writer. I was a freelance writer at the time. I was taking any work i could get i have a memory of a january day. Waking up and it was on the weekend. I got sick. That really wasnt part of the your way through the next month. I couldnt afford to get sick. Donech work needed to get and so much care had to be taken with animals and kids. I got the flu. It was awful for a couple weeks. We didnt have any groceries. By now, my older son had his permit. Permit when he was 14 and 10 months. He could drive to the Grocery Store and i could ride in the passenger seat. The boys rode in the back of the minivan. We made a list before we went. Car with got into the my pajamas on underneath my winter coat. Fever. Robably a 104 in the van while the boys did the grocery shopping. I saw my boys and there knowing how important it was. This was mom is sick and we have no food in the house. They were going to school and we were making lunches. Comething we ate needed to from that Grocery Store that night. I was so proud of them in that moment and also so worried for them. Intoioning how we got that circumstance. All of the things that led up to that moment being in that parking lot watching my kids. That was difficult. Think that i was the one that was worried during that time into them it was more of an adventure. Looking back on it i know my understoodsaid we that it was necessary for us to raise our own food but we thought it was fun. We didnt understand you are so worried or scared. In that way, i did my job. Myself really considered a memoir writer. I never explored my own life in my work. I was a serious journalist. I did police reporting. I was a daily newspaper reporter. I was the person at the burning building with the camera and notebook. That was really what i thought my forte was. Most of my work had been investigative. I had a really difficult year. All of a sudden i am thinking this is a situation i want to remember. My original thought was i want my kids to know what euros they were to be when they were little boys. You cant tell your own children that. And say to record that some day i was hoping to hand that to them. When it was published, my youngest son was on a travel soccer team. He would be gone a lot and i wasnt always able to go. Pictures oft me bookstores in the town where he was playing soccer. Ago he went away to college. Pack hisping him stuff. A bin with a clear plastic lid. On top was a copy of bootstrap er. That was a pretty special moment. They liked it. Thatthink it is important stories like theirs get told. They dont see themselves as heroes that i see them. It is memories, it is connection. It is Something Special when it is done properly with care and the right ingredients. It is something memorable. City, intraverse michigan. Agotarted out 23 years making just fruit pies. We wanted to create something memorable based on the ingredients. If we could take all the good things in this area and make great pie, we could have a lasting brand. Our signature pie was called nd traverse cherry pie. About 250 or 275 cherries in every cherry pie. From midjune through the end of august it is cherry season. We will make 400600 pies every day all summer long. Over 20,000 pies get shipped all over the country. We make cherry pie and all the things we may, we really live to try to make a difference in our community. The cherry industry is very important to our states. Local, it isan buy processed local, the economic multiplier of those dollars in our state is huge. That is what a lot of us up here not just a pie company are committed to working together as a group to promote our area and utilize the bounty to share with people. Whether you are visiting Traverse City or you are in mel wishing you could in l. A. Wishing you could. Orn you smell a cherry pie blueberry pie, for me a raspberry pie, everybody has those triggers. Usually of the generations before. But we were ate the lake or in the backyard. What are we doing when grandma made that pie or somebody brought it over . We are blessed that we are in the food business. All the emotions, right out with the smell and taste. The great Halifax Explosion was just that, a great explosion. 1 5 the power of an atomic bomb. Half of them were homeless in a split second. 9000 were wounded and 2000 were killed. This is how big this was. The explosion dominated headlines worldwide for a week because nobody had ever seen anything like this. Ii wasbing in world war close to what happened in halifax by accident. One month earlier russia backed out of world war i. West england, france, united states, and canada are terrified of having no front. Hey overdo it they put 6 Million Pounds of explosives on one ship. 13 times the weight of the statue of liberty. This is a bad idea. Stuff like tnt that did not need to be ignited to blow up. Highly, highly explosive stuff. It was used to bomb germans, that was the point. The munitions factory built bombs to hit those guys, instead they hit themselves. Ship dockeds french in new york. It is part of brooklyn now. It took a month to load the ship. 6 Million Pounds of explosives. Hall with the metal plywood, timber, and covered nails. Sendknew one spark would the whole thing up. They spent a month working 24 hours a day. The crew are terrified. They are bottling up a floating bomb on the way to halifax. After all that care was taken, the french government asked for 400 barrels of airplane fuel. After all the care taken, they very carelessly put this stuff three and four barrels deep. That was the fuse. 1, they leave at midnight. Terrified. There are hundreds of uboats in that water. They are terrified. Are held on halifax that night because it is too late to get past the metal fences. They spent one very sleepless night waiting to get into the harbor. One of the safest and biggest harbors in the world. The second biggest natural harbor behind sydney, australia. To be but they are not there yet. The gates are, finally down. It is dying to get inside for safety. They are going very carefully on the righthand side. They are coming out of halifax harbor is another ship. It is empty trying to get to new york. That guy is running late. The captain is a hothead. He has no idea what that ship has on it. It is basically a secret. He is going way too fast leaving the harbor. He is passing ships on the left. This, keep on doing sooner or later you will find someone in your lane going your direction. At 8 30 in the morning that is what happened. , the captain is paralyzed. He is blasting the horn. The other ship comes back with two horns. He is not backing off. The captain cannot believe this. You are playing a game with the chicken. What did they do . The last second it shifts hard to the left. Thehe exact same second, other ship comes to its senses and backs off and goes to its right. They bump in the middle of the channel. The fuel knocks over and the fire starts. The french crew believes they and they hopped on the lifeboats. Telling nobody along the way what happened. Now you have the burning ship perfectly in the base of halifax harbor. One of the most Populated Areas of the city. It is the cotton they produced. Morning, people are walking to work. You see a ship burning and have no idea what is on it. You go down to see what is going on. Hundreds and thousands gathered to watch it burn having no idea what is going to happen. 9 04 35. Second, the temperature expands 9000 degrees. The munitions explode up, down, left, right. That is about four times the speed of sound. You have the worlds first almost mushroom cloud. Two miles high. In that cloud the ship is disintegrated. The size of a football field. A few are near it if you are near you are vaporized. It creates a 30 foot tsunami. You could see the floor for a few seconds. Werent exploded, you might have been drowned. The fire starts all over the city. Half the city is gone in a split second. It looks almost like hiroshima. Happens next . Half the buildings are gone including hospitals. The wires are down. There is no way to ask for help. 9000 are wounded. 1600 are dead instantly. How many can you save . The rational answer is almost zero. The wires are down as well. 95 are saved. Is aagic as it was, this two part story. The tragedy is almost as big as hiroshima. The response was so heartwarming. Are broken. Iers everyone is helping everyone. ,hroughout the province , they said help within an hour. All without being asked. They werent really allies at this time. Just six days earlier on the floor of the u. S. Congress the speaker of the house asked for the violent annexation of canada. Thise not friends at point. They send all this help in that is how you save 95 of the victims. About it for two reasons. It is world war i. It is canada. Just going across the border a few hundred miles, interest changes quite a bit. Halifax. Lps save that is what made us allies to this day. Because of the money coming in from boston, chicago, montreal. Better in about two years. Not to say the effect didnt linger. People with wounds from ause ofons have scars bec the sulfur. Aunt lived in halifax. They were told when you see someone with these scars, dont stare. That lasted for decades after the explosion. I grew up on the great lakes. I wrote the book that i always wanted to read. When i finally felt i had the confidence to tackle such an immense subject. The reason the lakes are the largest combined freshwater body on the surface of the planet, they contain 21 of all of the surface freshwater on earth. 91 in the united states. This is a place i really thought deserved a book that i jumped into thinking i could write it in five years. Two years. Five years later i finally delivered it. The acronym homes. Urron, ontario, michigan, yeary, superior. They run across about one quarter east to west across the continent. Which a lot of people dont realize. Flows intoer that the great lakes and out to the biggerrence is an area than france. About one in 10 americans and about a quarter of all canadians live in the space. Ofking about a large swath diverse land and people. Was are so big and this always a surprise to people who have never seen it. When you take a boat across these lakes, most of the way across you cannot see. That is how vast they are. The first europeans who saw them assumed they were looking at oceans. They were surprised they were freshwater. They called them the sweetwater seas. Others have called them the north american inland seas. One of the biggest misconceptions i encounter is that the lakes are not hopelessly polluted. Everyone of my generation inembers it catching fire 1967. News. National Johnny Carson on latenight referred to cleveland where the river, fire as the mistake by the lake. You heard the stories over and over. People think that is the way it is. Almost anywhere they go in the lake they encounter beauty. Beautiful water and shorelines. There are a lot of places that arent beautiful. You dont have to go very far findthe uglier places to places that surprise you with how beautiful they remain. Conversations about the great lakes is pretty long. Are almost 200 Invasive Species in the lakes right now. Some have been in normas lead destructive and expensive. A small muscle from the region. They covered the bottom. You can find lots of places where the bottom for one mile or two miles is completely covered. Mussels kills the microorganism. These waters have suddenly become the way of life basically. The mussels have taken out the bottom of the food pyramid. Ofe erie from the mid part century had been turbid because of sediment and algae. You could see 30 feet down, which no one has been able to do since the first european travelers who commented on it. That looked like a good thing but it was unhealthy. Oil and chemical spills. They are a highway for many industries. Those spills keep happening. Luckily, so far, there has never been a catastrophic one. That could happen at any time. One of the issues many of us are concerned about is what is called the Petroleum Pipeline upperuns between the peninsula and lower peninsula of michigan. Five mile wide strait. Thes by universal agreement most beautiful places in north america. And one of the most fragile. Is pumpingne millions of gallons of Petroleum Products every day. It is operated and owned by a has a spotty at best environmental record. It was the pipeline that thatred nine years ago spilled one million gallons of crude oil into attribute area of the kalamazoo river. Which is still the Largest Oil Spill in u. S. History. Lots of problems. A lot of people working on them as well. One of the things who surprised i was most in the years working on the book is how poorly understood and underappreciated the lakes are. If you ask somebody who has never been to florida what they think when they talk about the everglades, they have a pretty good idea what they are like. Photos. E student they have seen the photos. You ask about the Great Lengths go blank. S and they they are too spread out. People are stumped about what is it these lakes are about. When held we care rallies the nation to protect yosemite valley, people got on board. They read the beautiful descriptions of the valley. They recognized this is valuable. Shore of then the largest body of fresh water on the planet. 40 Million People get their Drinking Water and people dont see that with much attention or care. If you project ahead and imagine a time when the great lakes were depleted of water, imagine the we can impact that would have on not just the surrounding area and andlives of the people here many of them for jobs. Its impact on world economies. Mills andteel automobile plants to beer manufacturing and paper manufacturing go all over the world. They are a significant part of the economies of canada and the united states. Without waterways to transport those products and water to provide the huge needs industry has, they would fail. I think the economies would suffer greatly. Would be a Ripple Effect all over the globe. I decided on the title at the beginning. I grew up at a time in the late media wereopular calling the lakes dying or dead. That was commonly said. The great lakes were on their ways to dying or are already dead. Title. Hat idea in the i wanted to get the message problemsat some of the are very serious. Ways thattill vital are healthy in many cases and deserve our respect and protection. Cherries are one of michigans romantic commodities i guess you would say. U. S. ,higan or the michigan is the big gorilla as far as production of cherries. About two thirds of the u. S. Cherries are produced in michigan. They are protect particularly east oflongside the lake michigan, the big lake creates the microclimate. They protect the food from freezing in the spring. Protectsthe summer it the food from the extreme heat. It was about 30 years, the first onlyy nonproductive or marginally productive. Only a year or two of Traverse City<\/a> michigan to learn more about the unique history and literary life. For eight years we have traveled to cities ringing the book seemed to our viewers. You can watch more of our visits at cspan. Org. The years leading up to my divorce and postdivorce, a lot in aruggles have been compressed period of time. Over one year i got divorced. I was suddenly a single parent. I was unemployed with this grand plan to make my life as a writer. Of raising myal children in a rural setting. There was quite a bit of drama. A lot of suffering. There was a lot of togetherness. It was the four of us against the world. I wanted to document that. I had a nickname for my house. It was named after the big Valley Television<\/a> show. I remember driving past this house and seeing the forsale sign. , iore i even looked at it said i dont know what i have to do to live in that house but i will be living in that house. I was married at the time. Living here was certainly my dream. I dont know if it was necessarily my exhusbands dream. I moved into the house in 1996. It was about seven years later that we got divorced. There was a sense of relief. Pretty soon after that it was somewhat terrifying to me to i had a rather large house the care ofand also the animals. At the time we had horses, chickens, we were raising a pig with the neighbors. Three sons, ise wanted there to be no interruption in their enjoyment of life. Want the divorce to impact them in any negative way. Of how i was terrified would maintain all of that. I also sort of had this attitude that i would think about this life in 30 day increments. That was the mortgage payment. The first would come and somehow i would make the payment. Exhale ford take an 30 days. During that month i would plan for the next month. Somehow i would make that payment and say you did it for 30 more days. That seems like a harrowing way to live. Every month i would think, it is just temporary. Just temporary turned out to be two years. To live here it takes either money or labor. We had no money. We had to find it would to foot to put in the fireplace. I would keep the furnace set at 50 and the rest of the house would be heated by one fireplace in the living room. I didnt have a chainsaw. The boys and i would drive around and around here a lot of people heat with wood. There are always tons of trucks that are full with wood. When they take those sharp corners, a lot falls off. My kids and i would drive around and fill the van up. We would cut our own trees. I wasnt expecting to do that but we did it. It worked. We managed to keep our house was somewhat warm during that time. We didnt have a lot of money to shop at the Grocery Store<\/a>. I would grow things that we could make at the house, vegetables, potatoes, chicken, eggs. I could not have done that by myself. And 12, they7, 9, could really work. Becauseeat memory we lived so rural, if you live chickens,and you have you dont really need a rooster. In the kitchen where there is in the country where there are weasels, and foxes, you need a rooster. We had a very aggressive rooster. My kids job was to collect the eggs feed collect the and feed the chicken. They would use a trash can lid and their bicycle helmets and they would go in to feed the chickens and gather the eggs. They were very proud of their haul. Said unemployed but i was doing a lot of freelance writing. I was editing other peoples works. I had a lot of freelance jobs that came to me over the internet or through email. Work told send me their edit. Was starting to get the idea for my first book. I made my name by being a true crime an investigative writer. I was a freelance writer at the time. I was taking any work i could get i have a memory of a january day. Waking up and it was on the weekend. I got sick. That really wasnt part of the your way through the next month. I couldnt afford to get sick. Donech work needed to get and so much care had to be taken with animals and kids. I got the flu. It was awful for a couple weeks. We didnt have any groceries. By now, my older son had his permit. Permit when he was 14 and 10 months. He could drive to the Grocery Store<\/a> and i could ride in the passenger seat. The boys rode in the back of the minivan. We made a list before we went. Car with got into the my pajamas on underneath my winter coat. Fever. Robably a 104 in the van while the boys did the grocery shopping. I saw my boys and there knowing how important it was. This was mom is sick and we have no food in the house. They were going to school and we were making lunches. Comething we ate needed to from that Grocery Store<\/a> that night. I was so proud of them in that moment and also so worried for them. Intoioning how we got that circumstance. All of the things that led up to that moment being in that parking lot watching my kids. That was difficult. Think that i was the one that was worried during that time into them it was more of an adventure. Looking back on it i know my understoodsaid we that it was necessary for us to raise our own food but we thought it was fun. We didnt understand you are so worried or scared. In that way, i did my job. Myself really considered a memoir writer. I never explored my own life in my work. I was a serious journalist. I did police reporting. I was a daily newspaper reporter. I was the person at the burning building with the camera and notebook. That was really what i thought my forte was. Most of my work had been investigative. I had a really difficult year. All of a sudden i am thinking this is a situation i want to remember. My original thought was i want my kids to know what euros they were to be when they were little boys. You cant tell your own children that. And say to record that some day i was hoping to hand that to them. When it was published, my youngest son was on a travel soccer team. He would be gone a lot and i wasnt always able to go. Pictures oft me bookstores in the town where he was playing soccer. Ago he went away to college. Pack hisping him stuff. A bin with a clear plastic lid. On top was a copy of bootstrap er. That was a pretty special moment. They liked it. Thatthink it is important stories like theirs get told. They dont see themselves as heroes that i see them. It is memories, it is connection. It is Something Special<\/a> when it is done properly with care and the right ingredients. It is something memorable. City, intraverse michigan. Agotarted out 23 years making just fruit pies. We wanted to create something memorable based on the ingredients. If we could take all the good things in this area and make great pie, we could have a lasting brand. Our signature pie was called nd traverse cherry pie. About 250 or 275 cherries in every cherry pie. From midjune through the end of august it is cherry season. We will make 400600 pies every day all summer long. Over 20,000 pies get shipped all over the country. We make cherry pie and all the things we may, we really live to try to make a difference in our community. The cherry industry is very important to our states. Local, it isan buy processed local, the economic multiplier of those dollars in our state is huge. That is what a lot of us up here not just a pie company are committed to working together as a group to promote our area and utilize the bounty to share with people. Whether you are visiting Traverse City<\/a> or you are in mel wishing you could in l. A. Wishing you could. Orn you smell a cherry pie blueberry pie, for me a raspberry pie, everybody has those triggers. Usually of the generations before. But we were ate the lake or in the backyard. What are we doing when grandma made that pie or somebody brought it over . We are blessed that we are in the food business. All the emotions, right out with the smell and taste. The great Halifax Explosion<\/a> was just that, a great explosion. 1 5 the power of an atomic bomb. Half of them were homeless in a split second. 9000 were wounded and 2000 were killed. This is how big this was. The explosion dominated headlines worldwide for a week because nobody had ever seen anything like this. Ii wasbing in world war close to what happened in halifax by accident. One month earlier russia backed out of world war i. West england, france, united states, and canada are terrified of having no front. Hey overdo it they put 6 Million Pounds<\/a> of explosives on one ship. 13 times the weight of the statue of liberty. This is a bad idea. Stuff like tnt that did not need to be ignited to blow up. Highly, highly explosive stuff. It was used to bomb germans, that was the point. The munitions factory built bombs to hit those guys, instead they hit themselves. Ship dockeds french in new york. It is part of brooklyn now. It took a month to load the ship. 6 Million Pounds<\/a> of explosives. Hall with the metal plywood, timber, and covered nails. Sendknew one spark would the whole thing up. They spent a month working 24 hours a day. The crew are terrified. They are bottling up a floating bomb on the way to halifax. After all that care was taken, the french government asked for 400 barrels of airplane fuel. After all the care taken, they very carelessly put this stuff three and four barrels deep. That was the fuse. 1, they leave at midnight. Terrified. There are hundreds of uboats in that water. They are terrified. Are held on halifax that night because it is too late to get past the metal fences. They spent one very sleepless night waiting to get into the harbor. One of the safest and biggest harbors in the world. The second biggest natural harbor behind sydney, australia. To be but they are not there yet. The gates are, finally down. It is dying to get inside for safety. They are going very carefully on the righthand side. They are coming out of halifax harbor is another ship. It is empty trying to get to new york. That guy is running late. The captain is a hothead. He has no idea what that ship has on it. It is basically a secret. He is going way too fast leaving the harbor. He is passing ships on the left. This, keep on doing sooner or later you will find someone in your lane going your direction. At 8 30 in the morning that is what happened. , the captain is paralyzed. He is blasting the horn. The other ship comes back with two horns. He is not backing off. The captain cannot believe this. You are playing a game with the chicken. What did they do . The last second it shifts hard to the left. Thehe exact same second, other ship comes to its senses and backs off and goes to its right. They bump in the middle of the channel. The fuel knocks over and the fire starts. The french crew believes they and they hopped on the lifeboats. Telling nobody along the way what happened. Now you have the burning ship perfectly in the base of halifax harbor. One of the most Populated Areas<\/a> of the city. It is the cotton they produced. Morning, people are walking to work. You see a ship burning and have no idea what is on it. You go down to see what is going on. Hundreds and thousands gathered to watch it burn having no idea what is going to happen. 9 04 35. Second, the temperature expands 9000 degrees. The munitions explode up, down, left, right. That is about four times the speed of sound. You have the worlds first almost mushroom cloud. Two miles high. In that cloud the ship is disintegrated. The size of a football field. A few are near it if you are near you are vaporized. It creates a 30 foot tsunami. You could see the floor for a few seconds. Werent exploded, you might have been drowned. The fire starts all over the city. Half the city is gone in a split second. It looks almost like hiroshima. Happens next . Half the buildings are gone including hospitals. The wires are down. There is no way to ask for help. 9000 are wounded. 1600 are dead instantly. How many can you save . The rational answer is almost zero. The wires are down as well. 95 are saved. Is aagic as it was, this two part story. The tragedy is almost as big as hiroshima. The response was so heartwarming. Are broken. Iers everyone is helping everyone. ,hroughout the province , they said help within an hour. All without being asked. They werent really allies at this time. Just six days earlier on the floor of the u. S. Congress the speaker of the house asked for the violent annexation of canada. Thise not friends at point. They send all this help in that is how you save 95 of the victims. About it for two reasons. It is world war i. It is canada. Just going across the border a few hundred miles, interest changes quite a bit. Halifax. Lps save that is what made us allies to this day. Because of the money coming in from boston, chicago, montreal. Better in about two years. Not to say the effect didnt linger. People with wounds from ause ofons have scars bec the sulfur. Aunt lived in halifax. They were told when you see someone with these scars, dont stare. That lasted for decades after the explosion. I grew up on the great lakes. I wrote the book that i always wanted to read. When i finally felt i had the confidence to tackle such an immense subject. The reason the lakes are the largest combined freshwater body on the surface of the planet, they contain 21 of all of the surface freshwater on earth. 91 in the united states. This is a place i really thought deserved a book that i jumped into thinking i could write it in five years. Two years. Five years later i finally delivered it. The acronym homes. Urron, ontario, michigan, yeary, superior. They run across about one quarter east to west across the continent. Which a lot of people dont realize. Flows intoer that the great lakes and out to the biggerrence is an area than france. About one in 10 americans and about a quarter of all canadians live in the space. Ofking about a large swath diverse land and people. Was are so big and this always a surprise to people who have never seen it. When you take a boat across these lakes, most of the way across you cannot see. That is how vast they are. The first europeans who saw them assumed they were looking at oceans. They were surprised they were freshwater. They called them the sweetwater seas. Others have called them the north american inland seas. One of the biggest misconceptions i encounter is that the lakes are not hopelessly polluted. Everyone of my generation inembers it catching fire 1967. News. National Johnny Carson<\/a> on latenight referred to cleveland where the river, fire as the mistake by the lake. You heard the stories over and over. People think that is the way it is. Almost anywhere they go in the lake they encounter beauty. Beautiful water and shorelines. There are a lot of places that arent beautiful. You dont have to go very far findthe uglier places to places that surprise you with how beautiful they remain. Conversations about the great lakes is pretty long. Are almost 200 Invasive Species<\/a> in the lakes right now. Some have been in normas lead destructive and expensive. A small muscle from the region. They covered the bottom. You can find lots of places where the bottom for one mile or two miles is completely covered. Mussels kills the microorganism. These waters have suddenly become the way of life basically. The mussels have taken out the bottom of the food pyramid. Ofe erie from the mid part century had been turbid because of sediment and algae. You could see 30 feet down, which no one has been able to do since the first european travelers who commented on it. That looked like a good thing but it was unhealthy. Oil and chemical spills. They are a highway for many industries. Those spills keep happening. Luckily, so far, there has never been a catastrophic one. That could happen at any time. One of the issues many of us are concerned about is what is called the Petroleum Pipeline<\/a> upperuns between the peninsula and lower peninsula of michigan. Five mile wide strait. Thes by universal agreement most beautiful places in north america. And one of the most fragile. Is pumpingne millions of gallons of Petroleum Products<\/a> every day. It is operated and owned by a has a spotty at best environmental record. It was the pipeline that thatred nine years ago spilled one million gallons of crude oil into attribute area of the kalamazoo river. Which is still the Largest Oil Spill<\/a> in u. S. History. Lots of problems. A lot of people working on them as well. One of the things who surprised i was most in the years working on the book is how poorly understood and underappreciated the lakes are. If you ask somebody who has never been to florida what they think when they talk about the everglades, they have a pretty good idea what they are like. Photos. E student they have seen the photos. You ask about the Great Lengths<\/a> go blank. S and they they are too spread out. People are stumped about what is it these lakes are about. When held we care rallies the nation to protect yosemite valley, people got on board. They read the beautiful descriptions of the valley. They recognized this is valuable. Shore of then the largest body of fresh water on the planet. 40 Million People<\/a> get their Drinking Water<\/a> and people dont see that with much attention or care. If you project ahead and imagine a time when the great lakes were depleted of water, imagine the we can impact that would have on not just the surrounding area and andlives of the people here many of them for jobs. Its impact on world economies. Mills andteel automobile plants to beer manufacturing and paper manufacturing go all over the world. They are a significant part of the economies of canada and the united states. Without waterways to transport those products and water to provide the huge needs industry has, they would fail. I think the economies would suffer greatly. Would be a Ripple Effect<\/a> all over the globe. I decided on the title at the beginning. I grew up at a time in the late media wereopular calling the lakes dying or dead. That was commonly said. The great lakes were on their ways to dying or are already dead. Title. Hat idea in the i wanted to get the message problemsat some of the are very serious. Ways thattill vital are healthy in many cases and deserve our respect and protection. Cherries are one of michigans romantic commodities i guess you would say. U. S. ,higan or the michigan is the big gorilla as far as production of cherries. About two thirds of the u. S. Cherries are produced in michigan. They are protect particularly east oflongside the lake michigan, the big lake creates the microclimate. They protect the food from freezing in the spring. Protectsthe summer it the food from the extreme heat. It was about 30 years, the first onlyy nonproductive or marginally productive. Only a year or two of Site Preparation<\/a> for an orchard. Seven years at least may to grow a tree to maturity. 30yearoldnt the would pay back some of the expenses over that long period of development. Cherries moran seat have been known as a dessert ingredient. Thery pie was of course favorite dessert for a long time. They have been as people found other nice pies to eat. Those cherries were now dried and a good finger food. The trees behind me here are probably about 20 years old. The are probably about in prime of their productive years. They have been producing for about 10 years. Hopefully they have more than 10 years left. Depends on the weather and other things, some of which can be controlled and some cannot. Parasites here in this area about the middle of july is the centering point. Sometimes the spring will be warm and the fruit will mature a little ahead of that. When itr like this year has been cool, i think it will be a little later. It will only last for about three weeks. Window that small we have to retrieve the fruit from the orchards and get it for manufacturers later in the year. The largest sector that consumes cherries now i think would have to be dried cherries. Cherries have become a Popular Consumer<\/a> item at stores everywhere. These companies have stores in every major city across the country and many of them are international. Getting veryand up wide distribution. Ofould have to say but in terms dollar volume it is smaller than the apple industry. Beefsmaller than dairy and industries. I think more than what cherries what as a commodity is cherries bring to michigan as a tourist draw. The nice taste and the appeal it region whereo the the cherries are grown. It seems like people have been fascinated with red fruit more than any other color. I think red is associated with. Assion it is a romantic color and has a they are tart if you like them sweet. You could buy them in candy or with stems on. Just all sorts of possibilities. The annual cherry festival. We are so happy to have you here. The National Cherry<\/a> festival is an eight Day Celebration<\/a> of our favorite red ruby morsel of goodness. Over the eight days we have 150 different events, nine of which are free to the public. Traditional pit 93 years of great fun that we have been celebrating our favorite fruit. Cherries are so important and of course the community because we are the cherry capital. We go 70 of the nations tart cherries. We are proud of our agriculture. The cherry festival brings in about 500,000 visitors annually. Tourism is a very important thing. Most people did not know about this 50 years ago. Now it is a landmark. It is something people want to come visit. There very wellknown for landscape of our community. Orchards, our agriculture and so on. In 2016, it was about 26 million. Over the 93 year history of the cherry festival we have been able to impact the community that has greatly supported us. Our hope is for another 90 years. We are excited. We are excited to continue to grow the relationship and support our cherry industry and the agriculture industry. And continue to be cherry capital of the world. Visit to Traverse City<\/a>, michigan is a book tv exclusive. We want to introduce you to cspan cities tour. We traveled to u. S. Cities bringing the book scene to our viewers. You can watch more of our visits at cspan. Org citiestour. Cspans washington journal live every day with news and policy issues that impact you. Coming up saturday morning, we will discuss the latest data breach and what protections are in place for consumers with Consumer Program<\/a> director from the u. S. Public Interest Research<\/a> group. And look at the recent Interest Rate<\/a> cut with heather long. Be sure to watch washington journal live at 7 00 a. M. Eastern on saturday morning. Weekfor podcast week next starting at 9 00 a. M. Eastern. On monday we talk with larry oconnor. Tuesday, rachel quester will join us. On wednesday it is mark leon goldberg. Alt. Hursday, chris stirew briney. Y, jennifer join the discussion. This weekend on book tv, saturday at 7 45 eastern, on his the political option for broadband would go a long way of addressing the challenge for access. Isnt a pie in the sky idea. Had one gigabyte download internet, extremely fast as a public option since 2010. Businesses00,000 of and people take advantage. Indepth is live with author and historian lee edwards. At 9 00 p. M. Eastern, author about hisllice talks book, the new right. There is no agreement across the subculture other than who the enemy is and what the nature of the enemy is. There are those who are complete anarchists and those who are internationalists in the sense that i will be a citizen of the world. I dont own allegiance to a particular nation. There are those who are america first. Very proud americans who will get the country back. You will have very little agreement other than who you are against. Watch book tv every weekend on cspan2. This weekend on American History<\/a> tv. Saturday at 8 00 p. M. Eastern on comparisonshistory, between Abraham Lincoln<\/a> and Andrew Johnson<\/a> on the constitution. Take a look at the cartoon, it is very different impression of what people thought of johnson and the constitution. Not that he was a defender but he didnt understand the constitution. Was acting unconstitutional. Sunday at 6 00 on american artifacts, preview of the 19th amendment exhibit. Women in new jersey who were americas first voters beginning in 1776, when new jersey became a state. The new jersey state constitution made no mention of discussing voting qualifications. Owned enough property, primarily windows and single women could and did vote at the local, state, and national level. Talkshor john farrell about nixons early life and career. And 1948 heeven campaigned for the marshall plan. He went to every rotary club, chamber of commerce, and American Legion<\/a> hall. Every crowd that would take him. Hisold them he owed him best judgment, not his opinions. He convinced them. When the Party Primaries<\/a> were held Richard Nixon<\/a> did not just nomination,blican he won the democratic nomination. He wagered everything and ran unopposed his first reelection campaign. Explore our nations passed on American History<\/a> tv. I live in a country where there is no public transportation. The house andve do anything, she needs a car. To function, to drive this car, she needs a man. Sunday, saudi arabia and womens rights activist manal al ,sharif talks about her book dare to drive, about challenging the saudi government ban on women drivers. Women are not supposed to drive. We showed we are able and capable of driving and being in the driver seat of our own destiny by doing this. Watch sunday night at 8 00 eastern on cspans q a. With 1979 a Small Network<\/a> an unusual name rolled out a big idea. Let viewers make up their own minds. 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