Part in a two hour in quebec. This was their only englishlanguage debate ahead of the election. An. Two weeks from tonight, canadiens will decide who to invite back to this place, hill ment of commons. The six main Party Leaders have been traveling the country. Promises tures an president tonight they will their and de construct ideas live. Leader Justin Trudeau, more. He goal is to give them your vote. The setting is one of canadas most remarkable institutions, in gatineau, quebec. Debate. The here are your leaders. [cheers and applause] welcome to the 2019 de bay. Im one of the moderators tonight. Made up mostly of undecided voters gathered here in the round so they are the heart of this important night. One note, however, we have asked hold back their applause throughout the debate so we can eep things moving, and just a couple more things to note before we get started, were tackle five major themes tonight, based on the question canadian voters want debated. There were more than 8,000, so the themes tonight reflect those questions. The leaders will answer them ased on an order selected in a random draw. We all want a meaningful debate tonight. Answers so the leaders have all agreed to respect the time they are tonight and believe me, well you a make sure they do. In first theme is leadership canada, and the world, and our first question is from reagan in the audience. Reagan . Good evening, leaders. Sorry. The canadiens have felt implication of a divided world 2015, from u. S. Protectionism to brexit, to our tensions with china. As Prime Minister, how would you effectively defend both the interests and values of world stage . The thank you. Reagan, thank you for that. First to u, youre respond tonight. You have 45 seconds. Thank you, reagan for being thank you all d for joining us in this important moment to talk about the future and compare and contrast the various plans we have. We know we live in a very time right now from protectionism to fearbased olitics to the transformative technological change people are facing. We need to make sure canadiens to equipped to be able succeed in an uncertain world and thats why over the past our years weve invested directly in canadiens. Optimistic le be about their future and give them the tools to succeed. The environment is a massive and pressing challenge and building a stronger economy for the future means protecting the environment for the future as well. Are the things well be talking about tonight. For. Trudeau, thank you that. Mr. Bernier, your opportunity to respond. Thank you. Were the Peoples Party and we put canada first. He other leaders on the stage are globalists. They send your money to buy a u. N. Security council, and also, they are giving your money to other fight Climate Change in asia, and in africa. U. N. Is a dysfunctional be nization, and we must able to fight for our country. Only party re the that will have foreign policies thats based on our security and prosperity for our country. Mr. Bernier, thank you. He next opportunity for mr. Singh to respond. Thank you very much. Thank you very much for your question, reagan. I know its tough to ask questions in front of a big crowd. Thanks for doing that and thanks and taking oining part in this discussion. To me leadership is about who fighting for, the choices you make and whether youre doing whats right for the people. To her it comes International Affairs, standing p to trump, making sure we fight to build a better trade agreement that puts canadiens first. For me the question comes down the courage to stand up to the powerful and wealthy interests, corporations having too much influence over canada, and ive seen so far in ottawa, whether conservative r governments, they havent had the courage to stand up and fight for people. Were different. For the rich and powerful. I work for people. Mr. Singh, thank you, mr. Cheer, your opportunity to respond. Thank you very much. Of course, ill always stand up canadiens nd interest and promote free trade nd defend our interests all around the world. Trudeau only pretends to stand up for canada. Pretending. Ood at he cant even remember how many times he put a black face on because the fact is, hes always wearing a mask. He puts on a reconciliation mask and then fires the attorney general, the first one of indigenous background. And ts on a feminist mask then fires too Strong Female m. P. s for not going along with his corruption. On a middle class mask raises taxes on middle class canadiens. Mr. Trudeau, youre a phony, raud and you do not deserve to govern this country. There will be an opportunity in the opening debate to defend each other. First, if you would like to answer reagans question. Answer but i e to want to start by acknowledging traditional the territory canadas role in the world is an amiable one. Historic reputation for being an honest broker, for being a country that stands up litcismultilateralism. Future in the world is built on ending poverty and of uraging the education women and girls. A cornerstone. On top of that we need to world trade he organization and make it an organization that promotes climate action. Trade and orld climate organization. We need to support the rule of law and human rights around the because we are world leaders. Thank you, again, question, how would you as Prime Minister canada yen interests and this changing world stage. Blanchet. First, good evening, everybody, thank you for having me. Ship or showing not rship sometimes means making mistakes. Chief Financial Officer may have been a big mistake for farmers [inaudible] beef, might have paid the price. Facing a powerful foe like china, you dont try to only iceps if you have tiny biceps, and this is something that has to be learned. We would support somebody with real leadership, not making mistakes. Mr. Blanchet, thank you for that, continuing with our theme and the p in canada world its now my opportunity to ask a question on behalf of canadiens. A leader chosen by a random draw, so this question is party leader maxine bernier. Every other leader will then debate opportunity to him, but mr. Bernier, you like to tweet. Some of your tweets back to you. Diversity in canada a cult and extreme municipalities culturallism. Used the words ghetto and tribes to describe newcomers you say bring distrust and violence. On greta this unberg, the 16yearold climate activist, clearly, mentally unstable. Are these the words of someone character and integrity o lead all canadiens and represent us on the world stage . The question, you must tell canadiens if you want to be the leader of this what im saying about extreme its not the way to build this country. A diverse ountry is country and we must be proud of hat but we dont need legislation like the multiculturalism act to tell us who we are. E are a diverse country and were proud of that. What im saying, because its in ine with the immigration, im saying that we must have fewer immigrants in this country, to sure, for these people it time to t country but have a discussion about the immigration. Our country to be like other countries in europe they have used difficulty to integrate their immigrants and empower canadiens and thats love this country and im the only leader on the stage who wants to have a discussion about the level of immigration. Were definitely going to have a lively debate tonight because now its mr. Singhs to debate mr. Bernier on that very question. He temperament required for a good leader. I mean, mr. Bernier, after hearing what was just said, you said, im messed up, because those are pretty horrible tweets you made and for come as no surprise, i believe a leader is not someone who tries to divide people or to pit people against other. A true leader is someone who ries to form bridges, bringing people together. The leader works for people who need help. Not helping those at the very with ich weve seen governments in ottawa for far too long. They have been working to make for the er multibillionaires. They give massive Corporate Tax cuts. Dollars go towards them. Offshore havens this is not the way to build a country. To build the future is to ] talking over each other] everybody. Hurt wealth and growth in this country you must believe in people. Give back their money into their own pockets. Im just going to remind everyone this is a debate and viewers do have a difficult time even hearing anything if youre talking over each other, a portion where the leaders can debate mr. Bernier, the opportunity of mr. Scheer to debate mr. Bernier on the question of leadership. Right. Re values. Ada yen women. N men and youre right. We want people to come and ian values. Anada yen law. Ity before the you have changed you have changed from someone who used to used to believe in immigration let mr. Scheer have the question. To believe in an immigration system that was fair, orderly and compassionate nd now you are making your policy based on trying to get likes and retweets in the twitter. Parts of we can be a country that elebrates the contribution all around the world. Its important i dont want to celebrate. You can do that. You can do that. Celebrate who we are and were not doing that. That is the difference and myself bernier on this issue. We believe, we believe in making canada stronger by welcoming people, adding it to our country the things that has made us great as a hags. Hear from ms. May and bernier. I understand the question. It was also about the leadership. Ics of let me say up front leadership is service. The things that make a good Prime Minister is recognizing were public servants. We havent won some kind of lotto. To lord it over everybody. Were here as your employee. I had a little quibble with our ntroduction, who will get invited back . Its not the invited to go to parliament. Work, and to up to be a public service, i believe in service leadership. Find the things that bernier has said to be completely appalling and he that i feel that way about the things he says in the house. We used to sit together. To put my head in my hands because it was so horrific. I dontreciate you, but share your policies. I dont share your socialist olicies, because, you know, we wont be able to create any wealth with your policies. Tough same kind of policies in socialist countries like venezuela. Wealth. Nt create you must admit that. 60 billion. Thats not responsible. Supporting immigration is we need for this economy. Im supporting immigration. Im supporting pro immigration and so are we. Thank you, ms. May. Now its mr. Blanchets opportunity. How many seconds will you me before we jump in. Somebody invoking the truth be somebody denying Climate Change. N the views of socialism, it seems to come a little bit too easy. Waited 10 seconds. [laughter] we were worried they wouldnt attention. Its not that much a matter of number. We invest in it to have those persons welcomed as well in canada as they are in quebec, with our desire for them to share our language, to share values, and if we do have enough resources invested in that, this is workable. And you do not do it by saying that they the message are not welcomed. Here in canada or quebec. Everybody is welcomed in this country. 49 of our population believe that we must have fewer immigrants. Racists, they are not radical. What youre saying, in line with population that im supposed to be a radical . No. We have the right in this to debate ideas and thats what im doing. For immigrants also . Were all immigrants. Absolutely and were proud. Were proud canadiens. Okay. On this inal debate subject goes to mr. Trudeau to whether bernier. Again, temperament required for good leader. I think its important to recognize that were in a world ight now where these discussions, this polarization, this fear of the other, has for e easy currency politicians who do want to strike up uncertainty in eoples hearts and lift those anxieties and try to get people to vote against things. Unfortunately mr. Bernier on is playing that role of trying to make people more about the migrations that are happening in the world and the opportunities around lobalization, and our ability to continue to redefine every single day what it is to be anada yen, what it means to be canada yen. Yes, it will evolve. It will transform itself as we leadership. As we move forward. And you. Lways want to celebrate you always want to celebrate diversity. Must t celebrate, we celebrate who we are. And im a proud canadian like you. This country uild together and we want this country to be like that in 25 years. Love this country and its because i want to have a discussion about immigration me radical. Only 6 to say publicly what mr. Privately. Ks only 6 of canadiens want immigration. Only 6 , so when you dont want to have a debate about that line with the population. Lets have an honest debate on that subject. Okay. That we want to hear from another canada yen tonight. There are obviously so many of rs to the issue leadership. So this question is coming from usan fernando who asks her question from calgary. Again. Fernando in san calgary. Ore often than not, provincial governments and federal government are on different wave lengths. No matter what the Political Party. Cooperation is key when it comes o issues of pensions, governments and federal government are workers rights, to education, and healthcare. Minister, how would you demonstrate strong leadership when working with the providence territories . Okay, thank you, Susan Fernando from calgary. Again, based on a random draw first es to mr. Bernier and then every other leader will have the chance to answer. Mr. Bernier. All, i will respect the constitution. I will respect provinces, and very important. And i wont interfere with provincial jurisdiction. I wont interfere in healthcare because its a provincial jurisdiction. Cannot in ottawa solve the challenges for healthcare, do, we can can transfer the money to the provinces and what i will do, i provinces be able to deal with healthcare and education. Thats our constitution. Transfer the gsd so provinces will have the money to and they will be able to insert to your challenges. Thank you, mr. Bernier. Its mr. Singhs opportunity to respond. Thank you, susan for the question. Really, shes touched on a lot concerns that canadiens have. Things are getting harder than ever before and she touched on a issues, pensions and healthcare. I want to single in on healthcare. To me, thats one of the biggest hear about when i meet with people across this country. When i think of the people that i meet, the young boy that i met, that has a chronic illness and has to pay for his his amily has to pay for medication, injections and blood work. He told me hes not worried about the illness but hes about being a burden to his mom and dad. Is hat person, mr. Trudeau saying youre not worth big pharma care. Big pharmaceutical companies are more important. To say to that young person with a new democratic government, would you use your healthcare, not your credit card for medication. Mr. Singh, thank you, mr. Scheer, your opportunity. Conservatives have always recognized the importance of provinces. H we respect provincial jurisdiction but we also understand it will take federal to get things un, like interprovincial free trade. Trudeau has failed to accomplish. One thing i can promise, they a t have to take conservative government to court to fight things like the carbon tax. R. Trudeau has imposed his carbon tax on province that is dont want to go along with his high cost scheme. Increasing tax is the cost of Everyday Essentials like gasoline, home heating, and groceries and it will only go up after the next election. Hes refusing to tell canadiens how high his carbon tax will go hes reelected. The conservative government nder my leadership will scrap the carbon tax. Mr. Scheer, thank you. Ms. May. Thanks for the question. Very important. Cooperation is in our dna, none of the problems we solve are we face, are going to be solved arguing and fighting with each other whether its within different in our parties, or between the federal government, the provinces and the territories. Proposing a e reinvigorated form of federalism. Modeled after whats been done australia, we want a council of canadian governments. Provincial, nment, and territory, municipal and the local levels of government need be seated at the table, so, too, indigenous nations, around same table, finding Common Ground. On urgent issues like healthcare. Emergency, and working together in the public interest. You. Ay, ms. May, thank mr. Blanchet, your opportunity. Wellank you, if i remember i saw a study today saying that about mpaign is not federal issues but about provincial and quebec issues. This is not a surprise. Cooperation with tovinces or quebec, you need respect the jurisdiction and something that you have to stop doing and this is one of the government of is, ec on many issues, giving a hand to our money by government and giving back to with us conditions. Given to provinces in their own fields of jurisdiction hould be given back without conditions. Mr. Blanchet, thank you, mr. Trudeau. 10 years of government he chose to stop meeting with premiers in first ministers meetings. Restarted that when we took office in 2015 we were able to strengthen the for a generation. We were able to sign Historic Health accords with 345ssive home care and mental health. We were able to invest in infrastructure and housing and across the it country and we continues to work ith provinces on renegotiating nafta, that had everyone playing a one team canada. But yes with certain provinces now were fighting on the defining issue of our time because jis son and doug ford premiers conservative dont want to do anything on Climate Change and we need a ottawa that will fight them and fight for canadiens on Climate Change and what were going to do. We will have the open debate shortly. P very were going to switch gears now and give a leader a chance to other leader a question on any topic they choose, again, this was chosen by random draw. The first leader this time is jagmeet singh. Thank you. You talk often about how conservatives cut taxi for the wealthy. I agree with you and ive heard you say this often. Question is you criticize mr. Harper on his climate targets them, u fail to achieve you criticize mr. Happier on the fact that he cut healthcare funding, you also cut them. You criticize mr. Harper and conservatives for giving corporations but you gave 14 billion more the question is, why do you keep who ng down the people voted for you . The first thing we did was class es for the middle and raised them for the weatheriest 1 . Doing10 years with harper nothing in just four years weve reached 3 4 of the way to our 030 targets which well mee