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CSPAN Washington Journal August 20, 0618

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The military funding, just like Police Funding i encourage citizens look at the bget. Tate budgets. Expand that to our federal budg will move oto matt in what is your perspectiayoav cen[ b gt jentke py sl ifo k. 3mtjlaic uase tit is typical democratic overreach. One of your colleagues says the bill does not go farh . Senator rand paul once a ban on no knock warrants. Y bill does not go far enough either. What we will try to do is pa different opinions, but i think it is an important subject in needs to be addressed. Addressed talking about it. It means to accomplish something. A good example of that is the bill on the floor right now. We are in the process of making a law, not just making a point. Host center Mitch Mcconnell hosting a News Conference at 9 30 with tim, leaving the legislative effort foraccording to mr. Scotts office, a draft of the legislation would reduce federal funds to departments that have not banned chokeholds, increases funding for body cameras r reporting of the use of force requires states to provide data on no knock warrants, and adds conspiracy to commit a h crime the criminal code. As we approach 8 00 a. M. Here on the east coast what Police Reforms would you support . Louisiana. Morning. Caller good morning, greta. I oing to say a few things and i will try to hurry. Ok. I will tell you this. You know it . Especially these young 8bfolks, are not taught how to act when the police stop you. A lodo be told they do not have to do with the police say to. They dsetting them up to get killed. I have been stopped by but i am so nice and respecttowards t three times. I am so, they do not even write me a ticket. A Police Officer i have a grand niece that is a Police Officer. They are some of the nicest people you would ever want to host it is ok. Finish your thought. If they do all of the things that the young people, and some of the democrat politicians want done to to want to be a police . If you tie their hands yes there is some training that needs to be done and m that is well and find, but if you take away all their protections, nobodys going to want to be a police. And shreveport that is a war zone. There are peop killing people over there day and night, just like in the south side of chicago. I am going to tell you this, a lot of people that dont like the police, it is because they want to be able to break the law and get away with it. They dont want to stand the consequences. I want to Say Something else that please dont hang up. This needs to be said. Host ok. Caller all these black people demonstrating, they they have found out they can get white folks to jump through hoops and do it they want to do because they are too scared to be called a racist, but all of this is going to destroy the country. Already, darling. Thank you. Haguest host the president yesterday in the rose garden signing the executive order on Police Reform. The president had to say. Pres. Trump we will authorize funding to Police Departments that seek independent credentialing, certimeat high standards and certain cases the highest standard that is really the best, on the use of force and deescalation training. For example, many believe for training what have prevented the deaths of antwon rose and both john. Ch banned except if an officers life is at risk, and we have dealt with all of the various departments and everybody said it is time, we have to do it. Additionally, we are looking at new, advanced, and powerful, prevent deadly interactions. New devices are being developed looking at the besbject. No object. S executive order, departments will also need a share of information about credible abuses so that officers with significant issues do not simply move from one Police Department to the next. That is a probthe heads of our Police Department said whatever you can do about that,let us know. We are letting you know. We are doing a lot about it. Ition, my order will direct federal funding and supporting offices dealing with Homeless Individuals and those who have Mental Illness and Substance Abuse problems. We will provide more resouforho can help officers manage these complex encounters, and this is what they have studied and worked on all of their lives. They uwere going to get the best of them put an hour police our host police. The president in the rose garden yesterday. As we told you all morning, th other side of the house judiciary ce in policing 2020 act, and they will debate that for to six hours today. We will bring that to you on interrupted and unfiltered on crg, and on our cspan radio app. We expect Senate Republicans to talk about the legislation around 9 30 a. M. Eastern time today. You can watch that on our website, cspan. Org. Lets go to teach it in california. Good morning, t j. Caller good morning, gret i am doing fine. Caller three things legalize drugs. It if you legalize drugs, you have way less police. House the homeless mu them on the street, in and out of hospitals wherever elsit costs a lot of money to have powder street, and higher have them out on the street. Hire more black Police Officers, or more diverse Police Department. Host all right. Ajs suggestion pjs suggestions there. Host william. What you think . Caller first time caller. i am glad what are your thoughts . Caller i think each state needs to create a truly independent free from politics off to investigate all Police Investigate any deaths or serious injuries with people involved in Police Interactions. Assistance through a Grant Program covering up to 50 of the costs. Host ok. Bob. Rock hill, South Carolina. It is your turn. Bob, good morning. Caller yes. I believe i am 58 years old. Back in the 1980s, i have seen a lot of interaction with cops and people drunk and on drugs and never in my seen anyone having to shoot someone running away from them, even though a gentleman said something about a phaser and he does not know if he has a heart condition or Something Like that, and he could have died. I guess all of these tasers should be taken away because nobody knows what kind of condition people are into start with. I have copd and i cannot breathe if i lay flat on my back. Tasers should be gone. Running they let this gentleman get back in his car drive it out of the drivethrough drunk to start with but after what happened floyd, i could see that man being worried about getting handcuffed because he oh, my god. Youre going to have will have good cops, but if you look at that go overseas, fight wars, do not come home for six or nine months or dont come home at all, we could get more good cops that would not have story about if they get sued or not, because mentally is the problem. It is the few that dont have the mental capacity to now not now, i heard a car got hitthem bullets with four people in it. I dont see too much of ths. I believe when the gases there ahalf, something should already be done that host in congress. And, bob, listen to this conversation on capitol hill, where we showed you a little earlier, senator cornyn, republican of texas, during witness testimony about what should be done on Police Reform here is the conversation he had with witnesses. [video clip] to what extent is the problem that we have with excessive use of force and lack of trust with police a matter of class as opposed to race . ÷a it depend on the color of your skin or whether you are poor and lack opportunities in our society . Senator states of america it is difficult to disentangle those institution in the country suffered that isnt suffering from Structural Racism given our history. I think the goal of taking action in this moment is to recognize there are things that congress can do to and the killings in our streets, provide Law Enforcement with greater training support to meet National Standards on things that, frankie, should have been National Standards years ago. This is the time to take action given the paint on the streets and in communities, and this is just the reality of what communities have been expensive. Senator cornyn i dont have long questions you change the phrase from systemic to Structural Racism what does that mean, every thing every institution, every person in america is a racist . It means there is bias built into existing institutions, and policing there have been any number of courageousolice ory of systemic racism as well. Senator cornyn you think systemic or Structural Racism can exist in a system that requires individual , or do you think it is one or the other . Ry American Institution has been shaped by these forces, and our goal is to do what we can as policymakers as advocates, to take that out to try to find fight it in the modernday iterations that it appears. Do you believe, basically all americans are racist . I believe we all have implicit bias, yes, i do. Host another hearing on ca chairman Jerome Powell at thatr elizabeth warren, democrat of massachusetts, asked the chair about how cutting off expanded Unemployment Benefits that were put into place to respond to the pandemic would impact minorities. [video clip] senator warren back in march cong temporary extension ofprogram and now were only a few weeks out from that help running out. Some people in Congress Want to let that help expire,saying mission accomplished. Mr. Chairman, you noted that the Unemployment Rate is higher for black americans and now we have said it is actually increasing. If congress lets Unemployment Insurance benefits expire, which families are going to find it hardest to pay their bills, make rent, or to afford groceries . Jerome the unemployed the people that have lost their jobs minorities are well overrepresented in that group as oursenator warren this crisis has been hard on millions and millions of americans and i know you have been thinking hard on this issue. I want to ask you directly, is it accurate to say our economy is healthy when there are serious racial gaps in how americans are doing . Jerome i think that is a longer run weakness in our economy. Even when our economy isissues, and or a very long time. Senator warren i take you would not describe this is not a healthy economy . Jerome that is not a healthy feature of our economy. Host tol hill today. Vincent, virginia beach. Good morning to you. What you think about Police Reform . Support . Caller i support anything the democrats come up with all, mcconnell, i have an issue with him he needed in his bill the Breonna Taylor bill. Being killed in his state, he has not made any mention of this woman killed by a Police Officer. When he came up with that bill coming is to bill and name it Breonna Taylor. Number two, all of your callers calling in, there are about 35, 15 million black people in this country. All of us do not come from a decent situation, and i know people that are coming from decent situations, and we have problems, and everyone else has problems in their communities as well. While we signaling of black people when it comes to Police Officers . There is a distrust. We know that can look at what Police Officers have done to us in our committee. All you callers talking about sistructure, yet we are not say anything about what people going to school, shooting people. Where their parents . Host . Greg. That a creek, michigan. Caller i am a firsttime caller myself, and i dont typically find my voice needed in the cases that we have come but when we talk about Police Reform, in my own opinion, i dont think it is the word that is the problem. I is education, and what we dont see is there is from a community standpoint in the small town that i live in right now the education of how to it really is as simple as that. I have lived in suburban areas where the Median Income has been over 100,000. I live in a small town where probably the Median Income is 18,000, but the ability to with on a day to day basis does not necessarily translate to reform. In my opinion, translates to education. Caller i think from a police standpoint that really quickly detrimentally standpoint, i think a lot of people that are police, in order to wear a badge you have to have a lot of bravery. I think what happens in those situations it is if you are literally afraid of dying, maybe you shouldnt want to be a police. Im a veteran. If i went, i know there is a possibility i am going to die. What i am trying to translate is a lot of cowards become bullies. I am not trying to sayi think what happens is that of fear of dying and people are struck with that element of fear , they fight for survival, whether you are police or a perpetrator of a crime. Host we move on to sulfur spring, texas. Go ahead and share your thoughts. Caller good morning. I have an outline here special Enforcement Task force, initial evaluation, and then the hiring process, federal law guidelines for sentencing, or, you know, complaints guidelines for officerinvolved shooting. If an officer is found guilty of a crime, he should pay the time. Simple as that. No slap on the wrist. No giving him a soft sentence because he is an officer of the law. Mental evaluation during the hiring process. A listening process. Dont go and take a class and decide to be a Police Officer. Give that person a badge and a gun. Out what kind of upbringing he was brought up in. Find out if he has any problems as far as being a racist, or ac prejudice against another color. It is not just blacks. It it is people of color. It is not just blacks. It is people of color. I was brought up in los angeles. I have seen officers beat up people in the alley in the back of my house for no particulg low, or they were out after a certain time at night. Then, they need to pay to citizen complaints against Police Officers. They need to really put that on a federal level as well. Let sooutside of the department evaluate these complaints see if they have any merit, and then take it a little bit further. Host all right, avalon. Lambert in brooklyn. Re talking about Police Reports reforms. What would you support . Caller a very good morning to you. First let me say police are civilians with the power given to them by the states. Now, over the years i have observed police that have come from the military, people who have trai

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