Chapel hill. Later, Washington Post associate editor rob woodward talks about his new book rage based on a series of interviews he had with President Trump. Nationwide protests were reignited yesterday in the wake of the grand jury decision on Breonna Taylors death. We begin with your reactions this morning to the case. If you live in the easterncentral part of the country, 2027488000. Mountainpacific area, dial in at 2027488001. Text us with your thoughts with your first name, city, and state , and on488003 twitter cspanwj. A grand jury indicted one of three officers in the Breonna Taylor shooting but not for her death. Here is Kentucky Attorney general David Cameron yesterday charges. G the after hearing the evidence from our team of prosecutors, the grand jury voted to return an indictment for three counts of wanton endangerment for wantonly placing the three individuals in apartment 3 in danger of serious physical injury or death. The charge one endangerment in the first degree is a class d felony and if found guilty, the accused can serve up to five count. Or each kentucky law states that a person is guilty of wanton endangerment in the first degree when under circumstances in extreme indifference to the value of human life, he wantonly engages in conduct which creates a substantial danger of death or serious physical injury to another person. My office is prepared to prove these charges at trial. However, it is important to note that he is presumed innocent until proven guilty. Host the Kentucky Attorney general yesterday. He also went on to dove about why the officers in the case, the other two officers were not indebted for homicide charges. During the last six months, we have all heard mention of possible charges that could be brought in the case. It is important to understand that all the charges that have been mentioned have specific meanings and ramifications. Criminal homicide encompasses the taking of a life by another. While there are six possible homicide charges under kentucky law, these charges are not applicable to the facts before us because our investigation showed, and the grand jury agreed, that mattingly and cosgrove were justified in their return of deadly fire after having been fired upon by kenneth walker. Let me state that again, according to kentucky law, may use of force by mattingly and cause group was justified to protect themselves. This justification bars us from pursuing criminal charges in miss Breonna Taylors death. Host the attorney general from yesterday in the state of kentucky. The courierjournal also reporting overnight, two officers shot in downtown louisville during the protests there. Ofy say the interim chief the Police Department confirmed theyll call were shot and sustained nonlife threatening injuries. One officer is in surgery and the other is alert and in stable condition. Here is the interim police chief. [video clip] college, there was a large crowd and shots fired in the area. As they were deploying to investigate what was going on at first and broadway, shots rang out and two of our officers were shot. Both officers are currently undergoing treatment at university hospital. One is alert and stable. The other officers currently undergoing surgery and is stable. We do have one suspect in custody. Reporter [inaudible] to my knowledge, they are both nonlifethreatening. Host we are getting your reaction to the grand jurys decision. We begin with mark in melbourne, florida. Good morning to you, go ahead. Caller how are you . Host morning. , ther the way i feel is officers were fired upon and returned fire from this womans boyfriend. And they are justified in doing that. Host what about the amount of bullets that were shot by the police . When you are in a firefight, you do what you have to do. Issue. Me, that is not an host mark, how do you feel about Police Reform . Caller i feel that is Police Officers are out of line, that fired from their jobs and possibly prosecuted. But they have a tough job. They dont run away from trouble, they run towards it. Host mark in florida. We will go to joel in brownsville, texas. Good morning. Caller good morning, greta. I see a lot of people were not the copsut it because had the wrong address and started shooting. You have the right if i am with my wife and someone is trying to come in, doesnt matter if they are a cop or , i will start shooting because i am going to defend my house. I have the right to shoot back. That is why you see a lot of protesting. Because you mentioned reforms. Yes, absolutely. You need to train better, you dr. To have a professional to deal with people dealing with mental issues. Not too long ago, i saw in the news that some kid on most got killed. Her mother called, he had a mental problem. Luckily she survived. It was a kid. That happens a lot. It is better not to call the cops or youre going to get killed. I mean, that is why you see a lot of people protesting. Because it is in justice. There are two losses, one for the cops you have to abolish noknock warrants, abolish qualified immunity. , they need tos serve time too. This is not fair that they are getting away with murder. That is why a lot of people are mad. That is why you see a lot of people in the streets protesting. Host joel mentions noknock warrants and qualified immunity. Political is reporting this morning, Police Reforms stall around the country. Majority state legislators have taken no action, and even states with liberal governments have failed to move aggressively. Activists attribute that in action to two factors, pushback from powerful Police Unions and poor timing. Of at the time of george floyd death, many legislatures had already adjourned for the year. A handful of legislatures however have held special sessions to address the issues, like coronavirus and Police Reforms. Several states have not passed measures restricting how police restrain individuals, and some have mandated the use of body worn cameras. Minnesota, florence homestate, restricted chokeholds, and enacted legislation banning worrierstyle officer training. There was a hearing in the wake of george floyd to death on capitol hill to enact Police Reform. The housepassed in june, 236 2 81, the justice and policing act of 2020. It would remove qualified immunity, mandated reporting of police use of force, prohibit racial and religious profiling, ban chokeholds and noknock warrants, mandate the use of police body cameras, and make lynching a federal crime. Over on the senate side, led by senator tim scott, was the justice act which did not get a vote. It would restrict chokehold use by restricting federal funds to Police Departments that have not , require the tactic states to provide data on noknock search warrants, and new crime, conspiracy to commit a hate crime, to the federal code. The next caller from philadelphia, good morning to you. Your reaction to the jews decision on the Breonna Taylor case. Caller good morning your reaction to the jurys decision on the Breonna Taylor case. Caller good morning. Travesty. Seeing the outcome, yes, we take certain abuses from the public, which we sign up for. We know what our jobs are when we come in and when we take our oaths of office. I just think that is a travesty, to have a fellow officer just charged for shooting into another persons apartment and no charges for someone illegally coming into your home i am just shocked. Sad in 2020 when were having these same issues and no one really addressing them with some solutions. This, i want to know, where is the naacp . Where is the Congressional Black Caucus to spearhead i looked at Different Things over many months with the president and also with both president ial candidates and their campaigns, but you never see any input from the Congressional Black Caucus on anything. I just dont understand why. Host the Congressional Black Caucus karen bass led the effort in the house on the legislation that they voted on. Caller right. But with so many Different Things, just like banning chokeholds, when i was in the academy, they never told us, one, that it was illegal. In any of my training, state and federal, any training we ever had, i never heard that we could choke suspects. Never. So for it to be a law to make it illegal, when was it illegal . Host what do you think about these noknock warrants . Caller that is a danger. Not just for officers, but also for the public. Yes,come into a residence, they are good for surprises to capture suspects, but on the flipside, that is very harmful to us because if we are going into a situation and you dont know we are coming if you are a lawabiding citizen and we make a mistake and you start opening fire and we are at the wrong house whose fault is that . Reports thise morning, the Police Officers said, according to the warrant, that they did not have the wrong address, that was the address that they had the warrant for. How could they have done it differently, though, do you think, as a former Police Officer . Caller you have in many departments state depositions to stick out individuals and to stake outake to individuals to see if they are there, any movement in a particular residence or property, you know. To not have things planned properly, you will have things like this. We had the same thing happen here in philadelphia last year. That is currently in litigation. S, and i am glad the media is putting a spotlight on different incidents that happen, because a lot of times i am not saying that, like i said, our jobs are not difficult, they are. But it is a twoway street. We have to respect the public, and the public is supposed to respect us. It is not a oneway street here. You go to other countries and how they do certain things with policing and militarization and things like that, you know, i just hope that in 2020, we move forward, because this is a travesty, it just is. Host Washington Post editorial board, ms. Taylors loss and legacy. Criminal justice reforms are welcome but not enough. ,ix months after taylors death one of the officers involved will face charges. The city of louisville will also pay 12 million to taylors family. The pending institutional changes in the Police Department are encouraging, and it is noteworthy for settlement like this to include institutional reforms. Still, no money, criminal charges or reforms can change the fact that ms. Taylor should be arrive today should be alive today. It goes on to say that louisville voted to an no knock search warrants after there was local outrage. Many jurisdictions across the country have followed suit, putting an end to the controversial practice by enacting what is sometimes called breonnas law. The department has agreed to more oversight over warrants in general. Commanding officers will be required to review and approve all search warrants. The deferment will also implement a system to identify officers who reputedly flop standards. The Police Department also will encourage officers to live in their communities and take part in committee service. This does not change the fact that women to often have brushes with the law simply because of the company to have kept. Fact thathange the her case would have been ignored if not for the tireless work by advocates. And it cannot bring her back. Caller good morning. I am on speaker here. The refusal to indict is a civilnt to saying in case that you are granting Summary Judgment to a defendant. Generally, you dont grant Summary Judgment unless you know there are no disputed facts to what you have submitted to a jury. I seriously question the decision of the attorney general thatto say that reports the officers did knock and did announce themselves audibly was an established fact rather than one for the jury, because other people had said these announcements could not be heard. Aside from that, by saying that this is a noknock warrant, they are in effect admitting in advance that they presumed the right to enter without announcing themselves. So how can they are the one hand say that we had a warrant to do something without announcement that would let the boyfriend know that these people were officers and not criminals . And ignore evidence that they in fact never did announce themselves . Once he believed in these were intruders, he was entitled to defend his home and to fire. And they should have known that any fire that they returned was a result of their entering improperly. This should have been submitted to a jury. I find it ironic as well, the heller decision of years ago that turned the right to bear arms from something that is connected to the idea of a well regulated militia, to an individual right, was funded primarily on the idea that an individual has the right to defend the integrity of their homes. Is this something that is written on the to be enjoyed by excess written only to be enjoyed and exercised by white homeowners . If these were black officers entering a white home in the same circumstance, does anyone believe there was not the an indictment for creating the impression that unlawful intruders were coming in that entitled the policeman to fire in the defense of the home i dont think anyone could say that. There are appearances of racial difference in the treatment of the right to bear arms, and for the failure to get this question to a jury about whether there was announcement. This is a very flawed decision, and i just hope there is a peaceful response to it, but i understand the anger. Host the wall street journal notes in their editorial, that the police did knock and announce themselves and they had a civilian witness to corroborate it. Caller that they did not announce themselves . Host that they did announce themselves and that they had a civilian witness to corroborate that they announced themselves. Caller i think that was disputed by others who did not hear the announcement. Once there is a dispute of fact, that should have gone to a jury. Host you say that why . What would happen if you put that question forward to a jury . Caller they have the ability to evaluate the credibility of there werements that or not adequate announcements of the police being police and that the announcements which were sufficient to give clear notice to her boyfriend that these were not intruders. If those facts are not clear enough on their face, they should have been given to a jury to be determined and not ag,umed by the power of the who can decide whether to indict or not. Host ok. Allen in new york. Lets listen to what the governor had to say, his reaction to the grand jurys decision. Kentucky democratic governor andy beshear yesterday. [video clip] i will never feel the weight of 400 years of slavery, aggregation, and jim crow. I will never personally feel that weight. But i can listen and i can try to hear. Clear thate systematic racism exists in this world, in this country, and in our commonwealth. It exists in unequal access to health care, in disproportionate incarceration rates, in its and it impacts everything from wealth, earnings, education, even how long we live on this earth. My faith teaches me that in justices and inequality must be addressed. God calls on us to build is one without racism, one without oppression, one without violence. Since the start of my administration, we have worked to combat some of these inequalities. We have restored voting rights, we have protected and expanded health care, and we have built a team. Clusive but as i listen, i know there is so much more work to be done. There are hundreds of years of pain to be addressed. My job is to continue to listen, hear, and to do everything i can to build the type of world that i think everybodys kids deserve, one where we live up to our true values, one where we live up to our faith, one where we try to make a dream talked about many decades ago closer to reality. Host the Kentucky Governors reaction to the grand jury decision in the Breonna Taylor case. Joseph, it is your turn to give us your thoughts, from bedford, virginia. Go ahead. Caller i think it is a tragedy all the way around. I can see both sides, but i really sympathize with the family, and i could understand why if youre in your own bed at night of sleep, and next thing you know youve got intruders and you are just waking up, you are not going to know or be functioning at 100 , you know . Of course you are going to try and defend yourself. But people will understand also from the Law Enforcement point of view, if you are going to shoot at them, they are going to shoot back. As for how many rounds were fired, people dont understand that the military and Law Enforcement used to use larger calibers like. 45 and. 357 magnums, then they switched to the lighter, lesseffective. 9m m, and it takes a lot more rounds to take a person down. It is just a sad situation for all. I sympathize with the family and the Law Enforcement, because now they got to live the rest of their life with what happened. Theve got to deal with loss of their loved one. These noknock things, guy. Now i am a white if i were in bed asleep in my own home and all of a sudden ive got intruders, dark, noise, etcetera, i probably would have fired myself. When you are waking up, you are still fuzzy, not 100 functioning. Host ok. Alton in tucson, arizona, what do you think . Caller my main thing is, there is no timeframe given from the time that they did the noknock search. Even the ag did not present a timeframe down to the second of how this all happened. That is just so concerning to he didnte how come get shot, the person who fired . So many bullets go through, where exactly was he at . Where was he standing . Host the first Police Officer did get shot. The shot from the boyfriend went into his leg. Caller right. But after that, there is a whole set of shots. If anybody