Transcripts For CSPAN Washington Journal Tom Fitton 20240712

CSPAN Washington Journal Tom Fitton July 12, 2024

Remind the viewers about the purpose of your organization. Also could you tell viewers how you are funded . Voluntaryough donations from the American People. We are a Nonprofit Educational Foundation that tries to bring more transparency, accountability, and the rule of law to our nations public life. Host one of the issues of transparency that your organization spends a lot of time with is looking into the Russian Investigation and the backdrop of it. What wasople again essentially your take on what was done in that investigation. Guest my take is the Obama Administration and Hillary Clinton campaign were nervous about the legal issues surrounding Hillary Clintons emails and other misconduct of 2016bama administration in as it related to Hillary Clintons emails and the targeting of President Trump. They doubled down on it, manufactured false allegations against President Trump to excuse unprecedented spy operations and later criminal investigations into trump and his team. Host what substantially came out of that . We saw the Mueller Report eventually, but what conclusive evidence have we found . Guest recently we have information our Intelligence Community had intelligence that the russians, evidently listening to Hillary Clinton and company, new that clinton was making it up or was trying to diffuse the russia collusion allegations that were fanciful to distract people from her email obligations. That was briefed to president to thend was referred fbi for investigation, but not much was done. Host as far as the release of information, one of the things that people were looking for was the durham report. What was that and what was released from it . Guest durham has not released anything. There have been some disclosures from the office of intelligence and other agencies. Someial watch received documents about what was going on. Durham has had one prosecution plea deal and not much else. Host the Washington Post reported last week that there are still no criminal charges or public report on this. Why do you think that is you would have to ask the Justice Department. It is a disappointment. Durham was appointed in april 2019. There is no excuse for the lack of action. I am not seeing evidence he has done a serious investigation. Compare and contrast to mueller. What a significant d. C. Criminal investigation looks like. Es. Nesses, grand juri none of that is president is present in the durham operation. Host in most recent days, the president sent out in a tweet as far as the authorization of a declassification. Talk about that tweet, what resulted, and what you expect. Guest he said he was ordering the declassification of everything related to the russia gate probe and Hillary Clintons and mels emails. The Justice Department has not released anything to us. They told us the tweet has no meaning legally. I dont know whether that is right or true. My question is, why is the justice and state department continuing to cover up documents . This is not required by law. It is usually discretionary, despite the president s wishes to the contrary. Host who is behind the cover up . Are you pointing to people appointed by the president . Ultimately someone like Christopher Wray is responsible, attorney general barr. They know these documents are out there but they dont have much interest in having them released. Timing, sor as the far from the russia investigation, why do you think that matters today . Guest because, as i collect it, is still going on. You still have leaks targeting President Trump. What took place during the russia investigation is a crime in my view. The more information we have, the more accountability there will be. It is not sufficient to get a criminal investigation going, but if we dont know what they did, there is going to be zero public pressure on the Justice Department to hold them accountable. One of the reason durham has been able to skate without having to do anything is because only now are we learning key aspects about the corruption behind russiagate. Host such as how . And Barack Brandon obama knew that the russia gate smears were just that and that they were concocted by the Clinton Campaign to target trump. We have known that generally and in the last few months we have information going back to the beginning that flynn was knowingly and falsely targeted for prosecution by the Obama Administration and the mueller operation. We are only hearing about that in the last few months. Didnt durham know about that early on . Why didnt he act on it . Guest if you want to ask questions, you can give us a call. You can also post on twitter and our facebook page. Into relatedtry matters are these series of stories out of the New York Post. What do you think of them . Guest they confirm there is significant corruption with the way biden and his family were operating during his vice presidency, probably before, that they were trading on his name, his office, to line their pockets thats what the evidence shows. We are went on supposed to forget about coupchment and the attempt on the president earlier this year. The president asked ukrainians what was going on with biden and they went crazy, his political opposition. Now we know why, because he was onto something probably bigger than he knew. Host when you say it confirms, how do you qualify that . Guest Vice President biden the top to having fired prosecutor in ukraine that coincidentally had been investigating his sons board, burisma. Out frommails coming the state department showing that they had longstanding concerns the email suggested longstanding concerns about biden and burisma. One official called it the gift that keeps giving and talked about the russians trolling biden over burisma. It was a big deal in the state department. We saw that confirmed during impeachment. We are seeing it confirmed with documents. Now we are having the blanks filled in as to what moneys were being sloshed around. Host from the statement you called for the removal of the investigator because he was slow walking the process. Guest those are afterthefact rationalizations. How many prosecutors does the Vice President get involved in firing . Host the New York Post story, is there a direct line from the computer itself, the person who founded, to Rudy Giuliani . Are there questions as to the validity of the evidence . Guest the New York Post tried to figure out the chain of custody and i would hope the Justice Department and fbi are doing something about it. I am concerned they are covering it up to undermine the allegations. It seems a straightforward issue to figure out whether the emails are legit or not. We have information that Hunter Bidens lawyer was seeking a return of the material and i have not seen anything from the Biden Campaign to suggest the emails are not accurate. There is a Washington Post this week where biden is reported to tell someone how he needed to make money for the family. We have politico being told by the Biden Campaign there is no official scheduled meeting between biden and this burisma official, but we cant rule out it did not happen. This is piling up and i suspect it will get worse. Host the Washington Times has a story taking a look at this issue. The first sentence says hunter biden left the laptop computer at a delaware repair shop, whose owner gave the material to the fbi and President Trumps attorney, Rudy Giuliani. According to the Washington Times, the shop owner told that to a senate committee. Guest when you confirm that to a government body, you are putting yourself in legal risk if you are lying. Lets get it out. I want to hear what joe biden has to say about these emails. Did he get any money from his brother and his son . Where was that money coming from . We want the details about where hunter biden was getting money. The scandal is significant. I am also concerned about why the Justice Department and fbi has been sitting on this material for a year. What have they been doing . Attorney general barr earlier this year said, i dont see any evidence about obamas or bidens involvement in crimes. They are not going to be pursued. Did he know about the laptop . If not, why not . Host whats the likelihood that any other information is going to come out so close to election day . Documentsmay just get in the ordinary course because of the freedom of information act lawsuits. Separately we may get some documents about dr. Fauci and his top deputy and their communications about china, the who, and coronavirus as soon as next week. We never know whats going to be in the mail the next day. Our first call comes from new hampshire, sarah on our independent line. Go ahead. When donald trump asked the russians for help during his campaign, while we were fighting the russians in syria, i think that should have been enough to open a full investigation on donald trump and his minions and they should have been out of the race. They would have found out the ,ies between Donald Trumps men his campaign people, between them and russia, them in ukraine , and we wouldnt be in this debacle with this sociopath running our country into the ground under a russian coup. Thatis a russian coup donald trump and his people are perpetrating against the American People and constitution. Trump shakingnald down the ukraine, which is extortion, lying to the American People 20,000 times and not protecting us from covid19. ,000 americans dead host you brought up a couple topics so we will let our guest address that. Guest on the russian side, that is a crazy Conspiracy Theory not backed up by evidence. President trump nor any other american knowingly worked with the russians to interfere with our campaign. Thats the conclusion of the Mueller Report, of every indictment mueller brought related to the russian hacking, and of of the d c the dnc. You are saying words that are not backed up by reality. Host from massachusetts, james, democrats line. Caller i would like to ask a couple of questions. I know you mentioned you testified before congress if you testified before congress and tell a lie, there should be criminal consequences. If you like to know believe the four times donald trump went before congress under sworn testimony that donald trump was following all the information he was given, following the science, do you believe dr. Fauci should go to jail for that . One other question. Interviewaham had an with Eiji Horowitz with ig horowitz. I would like to tout cspans archive. You can find that entire testimony and there is a picture of lindsey graham. The caption says, please listen to 35 minutes of Lindsey Grahams allies and conspiracy theories. Thats whats going on at cspan and every other news agency in america censorship and carrying the water of joe biden like i cant even believe. I am not aware of dr. Fauci lying to congress. I was not quite sure what the question is about inspector horowitz. s report is worth reading. Is something everybody ought to be reading because it demonstrates the fraudulent and criminal nature of the Obamagate Russiagate attack on our republic. Caller republic host republican line, donald. Caller i have a couple voting. S about virginia voteswas over 500,000 ort are not being counted there was something wrong with them. Ands wondering about that wondering about the investigation over the last and helped and how the prosecutors people erased all their phones. Is there going to be something coming out of that . Segue because one of the other issues Judicial Watchdogs, mailin voting and watching over that. Talk about the work you are doing there and relate it to the caller to a vs question. Is the rolesncern are not clean enough to mail blindly into them, where you have valid and valid applications being mailed to people who have not asked for them. I think this is going to be 100 million valid applications mailed to people who have not asked for them. Typically ballots are mailed in most states to people who have asked for them and in some states you have a vote by mail generally. We have had a massive increase operations in a way that increases the risk for voter fraud. I think the call is referencing numbers during the 2020 primary where you had over 550,000 vote by mail ballots thrown out because of challenges and other problems. That number was above the 319,000 number for the 2016 general election. The concern is you have potentially millions of people disenfranchised because they relied on mailin ballots. If you vote by mail, it has been generally understood your vote is more likely to be challenged, intercepted, lost, or thrown out. My view is you should be voting in person. Host your colleague and Judicial Watch took a look at inconsistencies that have risen in specific areas. If those are true, do you think it is enough to sway an election . Guest the problem is we dont know. Thats why you want a system that reassures people votes are going to be counted accurately, that only eligible voters are voting. We announced a study last week that showed in 29 states there are 1. 9 million extra names on the roles. You have got more people on the roles than are living there and eligible to vote. It can mean dirty elections. Is they are going to be counting ballots well after election day, not so much because they got a lot of ballots on election day, but some states are counting ballots that arrive after election day. In california, they will be counting ballots for 17 days after the election. Thats absurd. Even early voting opportunities for voters, i understand why it may be more convenient to vote weeks before election day, but to me it is at odds with the best way to run an election. Wereat the biden emails some trump thing on the other side may sway people to vote against him and they cant change their vote. Once you make your vote and something comes up, it is too late. Sen. Harris there is host there is a lot of legal teams going to be involved. Does Judicial Watch insert itself . Guest we are monitoring whats going on. We sued in california to try to prevent a lawless mailin ballot plan. We ended the suit after they promised they would not be mailing to dead people and people who moved away. We have three active lawsuits to clean up the roles in north carolina, colorado, and pennsylvania. Even our warnings to states have a positive impact. In allegheny county, pennsylvania, when we warned them they had dirty names, they immediately removed 39,000 names. Host is the concern over widespread mailin voting, absentee voting, or both . Guest these days it is a distinction without a difference because you have so many ballots going to people who have not asked for them. In the district of columbia, they just mailed to the Voter Registration lists. That is happening in california and nevada as well. When you have inactive names on the list, they wont necessarily get a ballot, but those names can be used to request ballots and anyone with that name can show up to vote in person. When you have dirty lists, you should not be mailing blindly into them. It is a recipe for fraud and chaos. Host ohio, independent line, greg. Caller good morning. I love the work you can do and i hope you can dig up some of that biden crap. As far as voting stuff, all people got to do is look at hr 1, the first bill congress passed. They could not get that done, so they are trying this mail and in crap to steal the election. We dont have to worry about russia or china, it is the damn media. I love your work, keep it up. Was the number one piece of legislation introduced by the new pull oc house when she took over again. It incorporates many of the socalled election and voting reforms that the left wants, National Ballot harvesting, eliminating voter id, all sorts of reforms they are now trying to mandate through litigation. The left opposes voter id, they oppose us cleaning up the rolls. They oppose every sensible security regulation related to voting. It doesnt make any sense unless they want to steal elections. ,ost stephanie is next brooklyn, democrats line. Caller i amherst bonding to the Russian Investigation. Came in, he turned the Mueller Report around, which he lied about. Administration was and still is with russia. Giuliani, who is a crooked lawyer. Son propaganda with bidens is all a story. Everybody is going to look back about trump, his children, his daughter ivanka, his son in law jared kushner, and how much they are stealing from the people, the working people. We have nothing. The deficit is high. And the pooricher is poorer what would you like our guest to address . Caller the russia investigation. Fox news is a Propaganda Organization which tells lies. Guest when i talk about russia, i tried to refer back to government documents. Barr lied alleges about the

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