Indigenous people who backed the movement for socialism won the election by 20 . Look at the amazon. Corporate interests expanding into the amazon at the expense of indigenous nations. This problem has not ended. The doctrine of discovery set in something, the pope talked about a 500 years ago, is something we have not reconciled. That is something we need to understand and redress. Host we would like to thank howie hawkins, green Party President ial candidate for coming on this morning and telling us about his platform in the president ial election. Thank you for your time. Guest thank you. Cspan, live with the news of the day. Coming up sunday morning. House editor David Wasserman will join us to talk about campaign 2020. Ceo ofrthur evans, the the American Psychological association. Washington journal live at 7 a. M. Eastern sunday morning. We will take your calls, facebook comments, texts, and tweets. Sunday night, the University Lu talksos cap lingzi nt 5. 0. E proud boys and the proud boys are part of white power and Militia Movement secondm, advocating for amendment rights, gun ownership, and also, sometimes it involves people who are outright white supremacist. Identifiesyone who 5. 0nto five as nt practices violence. Disavow it,use to seeing it as a legitimate response to russias him. On cspans q and day. Back with jo jordgensen, the libertarian Party President ial candidate. She is here to discuss her 2020 campaign for the white house. Good morning. Guest great to see you. Host remind viewers what the Libertarian Party stands for. You aree major issues running for president on. Libertarian party is on your side, not the side of special interests from bureaucrats in washington. You know best what your family needs. Not the politicians. My main issues are health care, bringing the truth home and the environment. Us your experiences running for president. You are on the show in july. Tell us about the campaign and process has been, from then to now. Guest it has been great. We have been going around the country. We have a tour bus with my name painted too big on the side. Together, we have been to 47 states, between me and my running mate. Everywhere we go we see huge crowds. Usually i have a couple hundred people. We have had as many as 500 people. People are in the party. That is amazing. Smaller places, where we could talk to people, my Deputy Campaign manager would go out and ask people, is anyone here not a member of the party . We can sign you up. We were shocked. Three quarters of each groups we were speaking to were not members of the party. Of the volunteers on the Campaign Staff are from outside the party. A lot of people realize the system is broken and we need change. Campaign,ing at the there are three candidates on the ballot in all 50 states. President trump, joe biden and you. You are not invited to the president ial debates. What was that about . Guest ask them. [laughter] i would suggest they did not want people to know there is a real alternative. I keep hearing people say, two old rich white guys. I would suggest that is the least of our problems. The real problem is they both want to make decisions for us. Neither one has an answer to health care. Neither one will bring the truth home. I would be the only real alternative. Message tois your the Debate Commission . Did they ever say anything about why you were not invited . What is your message to them for future debates . The official answer is i did not reach 15 . In order to reach 15 in polling, you have to be in the polls. Johnson, president ial nominee, was included in the polls early and often. He got as highs 13. 6 . We can get a boost above that. When it came time this time to be in the polls, i think the powers that be decided 13. 6 is dangerously close to 15 . Lets not put her on the polls. My name was not in the polls. To getimpossible for me on the debate stage. Further, if im not in the polls, my name is not getting out. The, people would see, internet, newspapers, here is the polling. Trump, hillary, gary johnson. Wow, there is someone else on. Let me check them out. My name was not reported. We did not get my name out there. That is the problem with the democrats and republicans. It is an old boys club. They only want themselves to be in the game. They are not allowing anybody. That is part of the libertarian message. When people get power, they want more. We have to take power away from the democrats and republicans. Host viewers can join in on the conversation. We will open up the regular lines. 202 7488000 for democrats, 202 7488001 for republicans, 202 7488002 for independents. Special line for libertarian 8003. Members, 202 748 you can text us at 202 748 8003. We are always reading on social media, twitter cspanwj, facebook. Com cspan. Johnson, about gary 2016. Has the Libertarian Party increased . How many members are counted . I havent kept up with that. Where increasing. That was part of my promise campaigning for the nomination. I would increase membership. 75 of the people in our campaign are from outside the party. We are increasing the movement. People who join after the election, what usually happens. We will have a better idea of the numbers in a couple months. Host you are seeing more and more people showing up, saying they are Libertarian PartyMembers Around the nation . Guest people are signing up, absolutely. We were handing out membership forms when i was speaking. It was surprising to see how many people were from outside the party. What are you hearing from voters, the reason they want to be part of the party . What are they telling you . Recently, in california, told me they were recovering democrats. I could not believe the number of people who said that. Theyre not even coming up to me and saying, this or that particular issue. What they are saying is that there is a general lack of control. They dont feel they have control over their lives. They dont understand why they are not getting ahead in the job market, all the student that they have. Somehow, they feel they are not getting anywhere. I can see why. Government has put all these obstacles in the way. Debt,speaking of student a question from social media. Student loans are the worst example of Big Government tyranny in the nation. I expect joe is forgetting the government out of student loans. Will she also canceled the debt . What is her solution to the Big Government student debt crisis . Guest i would not cancel the debt. I am sure you saw the clip of Elizabeth Warren coming off the stage. My heart just broke for the father. Know, Elizabeth Warren wanted to forgive the debt. He came up and said, i worked a second job to send my kids through school. We worked so hard so we would not have to take out a student loan. Meanwhile, my neighbor took out a student loan, bought a new car, went on vacation. Now youre going to give the money . I dont get money . That is right. Where is my money . I did the right thing. I took a second job. Tough luck. Americans see that as unfair. Worked ad the guy who second job he told, tough luck. If they paid off student loans, the guy, his neighbor, would be given money from the government to buy a new car and go on vacation. That is a theme. Obscene. I would make the loans bankruptable. Right now, courts, the way government works, if you are a corporation, no problem. Someone to close bankruptcy. We are the government, you have to pay us. They use predatory practices. Whose brains have ,ot been fully developed signing up for a very adult thing, who are now left in the dust. When people ask me why i am running for president , i said because government is too big, intrusive, nosy. The worst part is it hurts the people they tried to help. If people could make it through college, they could work a job and get through. The government comes along and says, it is challenging, so lets make it easier. They flood the market with money, which any economist would predict prices would go up. That is what happened. Host lets let the viewers join in. Alabama,ll city, independent line. Caller how yall doing this morning . [no audio] hello . Host you are on the air. Talking about decriminalized drugs and stuff. Why would you want to decriminalize something killing millions and millions of people . You are going to talk about treatment. I have lost members of my family. This lady sitting up here, talking about decriminalized. Stuff like that, it just dont even make sense in this country. People need to move to another country and let our country alone. Guest i am sorry to hear about your loss. My heart breaks for you. This is exactly why i want to decriminalize. When is the last time you heard of a Liquor Store Owner going up and down the halls of a high school, trying to push gin on students . When is the last time you heard about a vodka addict breaking into a house . Those are not drug problems. Those are drug prohibition problems. The like al capone in 1920s killing innocent people in chicago, now we have people being shot by gangs, innocent bystanders, in chicago, because of prohibition problems. If you hadgest, family members killed or who died from certain drugs, first probable those drugs were pushed on them and perhaps at a young age because that is what is done for the profit motive. You dont see liquor store liquor oning to push 12yearolds, 15yearolds. It is legal. The opioid crisis. It is absurd. Many people could have pain solved with marijuana, which is not as addictive and is safer than bourbon. I was on a podcast in which the host said, i am with you on marijuana. We can legalize that. We are not going to legalize meth. Meth is horrible. I dont want my nextdoor neighbor to have a meth house. Toxins and it is dangerous exposure to kids. I told them that is why meth should be legal. Whens the last time you heard of someone making vats of gin . I would rather have seagrams or Philip Morris making meth, then have it made out of the house next door to me. It is much safer. You look at distribution of alcohol, it is not pushed directly to kids. That is what i would like to see for the other drugs. Sure of the exact nature of the deaths. Many people who use drugs dont know what they are getting. Something like marijuana, which, again, the only way you will die for marijuana is if a bale falls on your head. We have drug dealers out there lacing it with toxic substances, people who are using heroin. Maybeijuana is legal, they would have never used it. Now fentanyl is killing them. Friedman saidon if cocaine werent illegal, we would never have crack cocaine. Economically, it would not make sense. It does not make sense to come up with such a strong substance. Alcohol prohibition. Beer and wine drinking went down. Liquor sales went up. It was easier to smuggle. That is what they are doing. They are making drugs more concentrated and toxic because that is how they do it in a black market. Drugs would be safer out of a black market. You would not have to be worried about being thrown in jail. We dont have drug pushers with profits trying to get people hooked. Maryland, washington, democratic line. Morning ood hello . Host you are on the air. I am voting for the Democratic Party, joe biden, because i believe he is the man for the right reason and he is a candidate for all seasons. Donald trump should be prosecuted again. He is immoral. Going around violating an Airline Stewardess just doing her job, then going to another country, giving people golden showers. This man is terrible. , he didnot bad enough whenave correct etiquette he met queen elizabeth. I would ask the viewer, what is it you like most about joe biden . The fact he crafted the crime bill in the 1990s, which was extremely racist, and put people away for life for crimes which there were no victim . Or do you like the fact he got us into the iraq war, that he was one of the major instigators, that he is a war hawk, he will have our young kids around the world killed in senseless wars which do not help us at all, which actually make us less safe, like an 9 11 . Do you like the fact he knows better about how to run our lives . I was upset when i saw the town hall in which he said, for police, i want social workers, psychologists, oh by the way, i think we need more of this kind of training. He may or may not be right. Heres the thing. What is the president doing with our local communities . Crime is a local issue. Assault, robbery, whatever. Towns. P to each of our my town has different needs then columbus, ohio, where i am going today, which has different needs then so lake city. Shouldnt my department be able to have its own rules . Shouldnt my mayor, city voters, haveent,s, our own voice . Or maybe you like the department of education, bankrupting kids with predatory loans . I am not sure what laws joe biden has advocated that has done any good or the fact he was for obamacare, which increased, not decreased is that why you think about for joe biden is a good idea . You Want Health Care cost to go up more because they did not go up enough when he was Vice President . One more comment. I grew up in the 1960s. I think about the Democratic Party i grew up with. It was antiwar. Pro individual. For free speech. Now the Democratic Party is nothing like that. They shut down the only antiwar voice out there. Since joe biden is on the coattails of barack obama, i would like to point out, both barack obama and Hillary Clinton thought gay marriage should be illegal as recently as 2012. Is that really the Democratic Party people want to belong to . Choice . Iden your first if he was, you think he is great, you love his crime bill, which put away people of color at a higher rate than whites, go ahead and vote for joe biden. If you feel the Democratic Party leadership shoved him down her throat, how about voting for me in sending a message to the Democratic Party . We dont like you shoving candidates down our throat. Led by at going to be party machine. Host that was one of the questions i wanted to talk about. Who is causing voters supported president trump, 2016 are democratic candidate Hillary Clinton, to support the Libertarian Party in this cycle . What is bringing voters to your side . Guest with trump voters, it is his record. I completely understand why you voted for trump. He came in as an outsider. I will fix the system. Im a businessman. I know how to balance a budget. I will cut spending, cut the deficit, bring the troops home. Sounds like a great message. Have someone who did not 50 years of political favors who did to pay back. Yet, he has increased deficit at a faster rate than obama. Yes, that was before coronavirus. We have the biggest debt ever. He did not bring the troops home. If you like the fact, if the reason you voted for trump was to get bigger government under obama, is you dont think obama increased the deficit fast enough, go ahead and vote for trump. If you want to send a message to trump, which is, we voted for you because you are an outsider and since you are not being the outsider, we will vote for the real outsider. Donaldin the red states, trump will get your electoral anyway. How about at least sending a message to trump, so if he wins again, he gets the message, i guess my voters want me to act like the outsider i said i would be. Virginia, libertarian jeff in virginia, calling on the libertarian line. Good morning. Caller good morning. Jo jorgensen for being our candidate. S thedea of libertarians i government is not our nanny. And i would like to bring this to light. Cspan. Ike i am on i belong to your companion sites, i am going to say, and i have been accused of everything, and voting libertarian is not a wasted vote. We have put out several dellboards and i have ma donations to the party. Even last night, we raised money, because it is not up to the government to take care of us. It is up to personal responsibility. I would like to have her emphasize that point in her message all the time. Thank you for that. I did not hear much of a question, but let me tell you, you say you feel like the loan libertarian, at least lone libertarian, at least in this world. But going around the country, people are joining our movement. So thank you for your appreciation for my candidacy. I have loved almost every minute of it and it has been great, so rewarding talking to voters, saying, we need something new. Host we have a question from a social media follower. I will follow it up, or i will ask it then give you the followup. Guests views on masks . What would you do as president about the coronavirus pandemic sweeping through the country . Guest that is two parts. Let me enter the mask question first. Libertarians, the libertarian way is instead of a onesizefitsall, that we each get to vote with our dollars or feet. This is a great question to explain the difference between our party and the other two parties. The way the other parties work and now we are having an election coming up, so lets say that you want to wear a mask. Your neighbor doesnt. What you have to do is battle it out. You pick your candidate, who says, yes, i am going to require everybody to wear masks. Like joe biden is saying he might do. But say your neighbor does not want to wear a mask, so he will support donald trump, who is saying, no, i do not want to wear a mask. So, you pick your candidate. You put out your yard sign. And on election day, both of you vote, one of you is going to win, the other is going to lose and it will be onesizefitsall. Within the libertarian method, you make your own decisions. If you want to vote to wear a mask that day, go to a store that requires a mask. If that day you do not want to wear a mask, then you can go to a store that does not require a mask. And if you always want to wear a mask, you can go to walmart and other stores, your neighbor can go to those stores that do not wear a mask. That is the best way to get along with each other. People ask a y the country is so polarized, i would say it is because we have to vote on everything for a onesizefitsall. Are we all going to be vegetarian