That charge was when you served on that commission . In with a recommendationrele to look at the problem of long lines so voters did not have to wait for long periods of time. But that executive order made it clear all those sources of dysfunction to have that intellectual process that no unnecessary impediments to cast their ballots that their vote could be correctly received your tabulated so theis Bipartisan Commission. Stowe voter fraud that is part of what you discussed . Anyone intellectual system focusing on all aspects to make sure you have the eligible voters so it is part of issues going how that system functions but what it was very concerned with was all of these pieces were considered together because of the process with the different pieces all the time they cast their ballot but the problem with that unidimensional focus that is the infinitesimal problem if you put focus of that. Why is this the infinitesimal problem . It shows that impersonation fraud is exceedingly rare that you will find that reflected in the report. To have the oped in breitbart to stay for years it has ignored the problem of voter fraud and trying to do something about it and secretary of state tried to identify a voter fraud were told the number of those is truly insignificant to matter focusing one issue outofstate the statistics released from the house of representatives with over 5,000 individuals who may have voted for about a stateense and that has not had a license since the 2016 election. That was contradicted by the secretary of state is a member of his own commission. The problem that we have said repeatedly it misstates the of facts saying fraud it does not matter but that we have to the issue of fraud into proper proportion responsibly now with that and burdensome discriminatory that they cannot vote so he wants to with this up but theres simply no evidence to support that to create a powerful in balance. To join in the of conversation former cochair soties issue of Foreign Countries of russia to baghdad and influence a the president ial election was that on your radar in in 2013 . Is that what you were concerned about at the time . That was not in front of us. Not at the time we were preparing this report. No. There is no question huge issues have been raised they are highly significant. Why not on our radar . With every period of timeme paru what is before us we try to address that problem with the use of technology those are the risks or the issues that have to catch up. L this is something we will be dealing with elections to come . Can resolve this prior to 2020 . Yes. I am confident. Ere inst so one of the of problems to mention how hard they work and how responsible and expert they are so i have a e lot of confidence in the elected officials. What about chris kovach . I hate to say this but on this issue i want the judge his political career but i would not trust him. I am understand they embraced over 100 million and then they said they are supposed to give the rest to charity but no proof of where i went but theyre notot giving information so is their way to force them to account for where the money went . Period this is in the province of the federal Election Commission more Campaign Finance but there are regulatory standards so people could find complaints how that money was spent in accordance of a lot. Talk about their workloadon. We spent the first half hour basket to the federal gingrich should get involved to regulate social media so does it have that band with to expand like that . They are under some pressure forum from congress they could initiate that rulemaking on its own authority and the caller raises the question but that significant mishap without violation they can except the complete kit is to to a the investigation into a force of law. What about the election itself . Are they finished years later . There are all sorts of reasons why that fec can be proud to active if it is raised to the middle of the election cycle the chances it is resolved before or small. To they have just fine in this . Is it jail time . No. They dont have that authority but if the party wishes to find that the organization they can sue toue list the support of the court and if there is evidence it is criminal they refer to the department of justice for criminal investigation. Caller i have been listening to this for a while i am on disability i always have to have an identification to do anything to what to do states delicate those states where they dont allow that is the way for democrats to get votes they should not have. Handle legal hispanic people. So that issue is a crock innovation have is the identification. Bad issue is why the secretary of state kovach is proposing any reasonable effort to make sure those eligible voters put on the peoples burdens and the result is they can vote so ineligible are voting so that makes them harder for those eligible voters to vote but the problem is what question of making sure the system works properly should not be the excuse of politicians from those they wish they do not want to vote is what you have in mind now that theyre trying to get past those politicians that theyre targeting legal voters and putting on the requirements that frankly are in a way necessary. Following the voter identification law in texas . Yes. Metadata piece of litigationtheo that eventually it has draconian measures that is not required that discriminatory effect or intent on the voting population this has been mitigated the courts directed a scheme of voter identification requirements that would be reasonable then that voter could execute the affidavit of a deadly with supporting documentation like a utility statement or a bill or vague statement. We need to have common sense mechanisms to make sure they are voting or eligible but well need a contrived mechanism for those a pay approved of. Over the next 50 minutes a former cochair of the above administration with the Election Administration now at the law firm in washington d. C. Specializing her in the election law. The republican line from Butte Montana a goahead. Caller good morning. Is it snowing there . [laughter] no. Caller with this Voter Registration if space checks to see if illegal aliens are voting there is a record the politicians and can say wew have no proof illegal aliens vote because no one checks so if nobody checks those that have lost their right to vote because of felonies and there is no proof the democrats want those illegal aliens republicans do not want them to vote so they want the law that requires to protect them but nowhere do they say if the person is an alien. Want to reassure the caller those concerns are unfounded Election Officials around the country that we have heard from were very attentive to having akeley registration must tupi periodically visited and there are reforms to provide support to Election Officials that nobody is checking we can assure is tht true. And they can be assured. Caller in 2012 and pennsylvania have voted the voter id law that was thrown out as the constitution pennsylvania said 895,000 registered pennsylvania voters would have been made it eligiblele to vote ineligible so the speaker of the house were caught on tape recorded they passed the law only so they can with elections. Have a nice day. The callers recollection is correct the leadership said they wanted voter id to enhance the election that is correct. It is also correct there were estimates of the cost to eligible voters to show s that these laws were configured to have a significant effect so since 2000 could result in turning away from the polls. Hundreds of those registering to vote that should never have been allowed. Also the admitted noncitizens. With the total of two and hundred 27 times between 2006 and 2007 and. In that answer does happen. Ofte. And then that was conducted Harvard University and one of those 10 counties to be less than 10 votes so i will give another example president trumps recent velvety to is the deputy trade representative he voted in virginia i dont know the facts but he thought he could vote in virginia when he could not. Ose i know he would choose to prosecute him. M. And as the trade representative this got a lot of attention from the year times. Republican line from texas goahead. With full disclosure you attack cruz kovach is being partisan the you are in a democrat and registered as such your wife is obama as Communications Director youre the president s personal attorney but yet you stand here to say you have a bipartisan view and does not go over well soso does the public know your background . Also remember to to say he is partisan is silly. Stand talking about we need to get more data, and that russian connection it is critical to the american democracy that we get that data and not just produced by Harvard University that need to be produced by a true bipartisan committees get to the bottom pomade people are voting legally youre not legally. The caller raisesra important questions we all have choices that may make with very specific Public Policy questions and collaborate on a bipartisan basis for girl any democratic cochair was a Bipartisan Commission those that are affiliated with the Republican Party though stepping outside thehe political role so that criticism has a huge difficulty to collaborate on a bipartisan basis to, to the First Commission to make wholly inaccurate statementsestg to win the Senate Election because of ill the goal of voting that made it clear heta was misstating though lot. Why . He was the vice chair of the commission on a bipartisan basis they hoped they would not have this order problem. 80 work with chris kovach during your time . He did testify. With that that ben testified by phone. To remain bipartisan in with voting reform. U believe followup by would make that he does make some of good points and a degree but i also believe if you had mr. Kovach on the same program to let him debate he would make some strong points of that election i did read the oped was very thorough it but it demanded more data. It did not just sayt. Otherwise he was justin demanding more information. Host we have tried to get him on this program and we will continue to drive the future but to talk abouthi this issue to watch that segment of washington journal you could find in the archives as all of the programs are cspan. Org. To i would be glad to debate the secretary of state any time but all that valid data the in the breitbart article is simply misled represented a lot. M and then to open that up for girl there is an example love somebody on the memorandum to the white house as they were being formed to say they shouldny not have any democrats to have a commission we cannot have voting reform im not sure they would disagree. The independent line goahead. Caller it is pretty easy around here. I know who lives around the corner. But does the of president ial debate follow your commission and it is controlled by the republicans and democrats and i hear the of bipartisan stuff but this is more bipartisan country of lot of different parties those that are on the ballot Running Forum for president that i can hear because the two big money parties like Citizens United they justified the people of the more. They decide who gets to debate and that is a very erratic. When i say bipartisan not that they should beip concerned of oneparty control but in the sense every bed the speakes said that Public Interest not any one Political Party butted did say a better word but not one party is controlling. D that is a very different structure that we did not address. Router id back on this program with commissioner kovach. We will work on that. And i will argue the environmentalist is the products sold to american consumers. To take off and head northeast to lead peaceful and silent sky. We had out northwest and dont find anything. By the al terrific physical injury to have the is amazing visions to hear people singing they have amazing things. So that image that shows the first i restarted to see the replay