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CSPAN2 Current Pentagon Officials Discuss Intelligence National Security July 14, 2024

Help, need more credentials , need moreskills to survive in the current economy. Watch after words at 9 pm eastern on the tv on the cspan2. The pentagon wants to put more money into developing emerging technologies, asking congress for an additional 8 billion nextbudget year. Defense Department Intelligence officials recently talked about why they have put in the Largest Research and Development Budget request in 70 years. The our 10 minute was hosted by the armed forces indications and Electronic Association and the intelligence and National Security alliance area. Thank you. I was going to try and get you fired up here because those initial plenary sessions were a little bit subdued so i want you to feel free to get enthusiastic here. We got a great coming so lots of cheering for them and are going to have a great discussion. So welcome back. Before we jump into this next session, but he reminded everyone that for the plenary share and the maryland ballroom, you can email questions to the panel. And hopefully we will have a logo go up that says questions at intel summit. Org. So send them there. Larrys down here getting your questions and by the miracle of technology theyre going to appear on an ipad with events here area and then events if you didnt get theword at some point larry is going to tell you a last question. So its now my pleasure to introduce the moderator of our Defense Intelligence plenary. Lieutenant general vincent stewart. Us marine corps, come on. Retire. Thats the part i was waiting for. Vince is the founder and ceo of stewarts Global Solutions and International Consulting firm area general stewart retired from the Us Marine Corps in april of this year. After more than 38 years of service to the nation so join me in thanking him for his service. [applause] a career intelligence officer, vince served as 20th director of the Defense Intelligence agency where he was the first africanamerican, the first jamaican american and the first marine to hold the position of director of dia. General stewart masters degrees in National Security strategic studies from the naval war college. And in National Resource strategy from the National Defense University Area please join me in welcoming former director, good friend of industry and my friend, Vince Stewart to the stage, over to you. [applause]. The deputy undersecretary for fbi susan mike in deputy of dui jeff kruse and Trey Whitworth on the joint staff. Im going to go through quick rounds of questions. I want you to have your questions ready for followup. What i will do with the questions will give them the chance to set the stage and talk about what their highest priorities are and what their concerns are and then maybe on the back and we will ask questions that i used to get all the time. We will do kind of a table setting, several questions and then followup. We will do this kind of quick pace fast break basketball so if the question is answered and you dont like the answer we will follow up. Im going to start. Lots of conversation about ai Machine Learning and its implications for the Intelligence Community. You have described it as a pathfinder for ad Machine Learning. Can you give the audience a sense of where we are with some of the challenges you have seen and in some of the ways we can be hopeful. Thank you. Its great to be here. Thanks. I love to be here for a year. I always love the chance to talk about me than an Artificial Intelligence Machine Learning. Right now we are in the Machine Learning phase. Wed like to get to ai but we still have quite a ways to go. Mabin is a pathfinder. When we were here two years ago we were on track within six months of the authority to proceed with the initial an imam viable product capability access field. Since that time they have scaled significantly in terms of increasing algorithm performance scaling geographic locations. My boss was at the theater a few weeks ago i got to see it in action. Where in dozens of legacy platforms and scaling across Different Missions not just motion video but other areas of intel so we are proud of that but have a tremendous amount of work to go. Just a couple of points id make on what we are learning because the key of the pathfinder is you learn and you apply that to broader act to these and something jake is undertaking get your users involved early. Its all about fielding and that minimum viable product and get that out of the field work with the users and build from there. Scale it from there. The second thing i would say is where we have learned the most on what we call the ai pipeline so writing the algorithm is the easiest part. That front Data Access Data labeling which is presently manual. Integrating it into the Weapon System and doing the accreditation of all these different systems. Those are the big areas that we are learning and now we have almost two years under her belt now. Its out there and enough capability that we need to see workloads workloads changing and we need to see efficiencies and a culture change as a result of bringing ai into the field. Thats what we are really looking for the next year. Thanks. Suzie on. Much has been said about the holding of the future and while the analytic. Craft remains the same the future will still be an inundated by growing amount of data. With all that data the analyst will have to swim their way through what is the ai doing to think through analytics and where does mars programming fit into this analytic framework . There is no question that analysts of the future is something that we are really honing in on. Clearly Mission Number number one for us is providing analytic assessments to all of our Customer Base timely accurate insightful comprehensive understanding of the information out there providing insight and ideally understanding the operational environment. You are right the Data Available to the analyst only increases by the minute. Not only that but cat printing environment that we have to assess our evolving. So the types of data and exquisiteness of that data are increasingly challenging for analyst for you named mars at the top of thelist if you will that the cia is taking to make sense of all that information deliver more insight. Mars is the one and those who may not be familiar its her effort to develop and expand the data environment which are analyst access as many more databases into one group if you will. Allows for data forces that we dont currently have and ultimately hopefully will leverage some of the Ai Technology as they mature so will allow more rapid and Creative Insight on the part of the analyst. Mars isnt it. We are doing much more in open Source Intelligence. Open Source Intelligence has been around for quite sometime but what dia is doing a structuring it so earlier this year there were decisions to establish a career path if you will for opensource collectors at dia. We are establishing an open opensource Center Putting structure among many of the efforts throughout their enterprise. The intent there is to bring increased discipline around the activities that many of our analysts and collectors are undertaking now and putting maturity and that process and ultimately allowing the analyst to leverage open doors in a much more official tradecraft compliant and useful way to so thats number two that i highlight. Finally none of this happens, none of this is effective without a strong foundation. Most people know for 25 years its been around in the has continued to evolve to meet customer demands. Demands are only increasing even outside the base. The types of things that people are using our evolving and it needs to be modernized to keep up with it. We undertaking investments and approaches. The time is now given to support mars and overall analyze the future efforts so its a top priority for us in that category as well. Im probably going to come back with a future and what it might look like. Im going to skip jeff for just a second because ive talked a little bit about the challenges of producing intelligence in a timely manner in this environment and one of the things suzanne was talking about when was the last time we used a National Intelligence estimate. This is the point of publication. You talk about the challenges of generating realtime intelligence in an estimated sort of environment. Talk about some of the challenges in the developing intelligence in this crazy world thanks for the question. The chairman of the joint staff have made it clear we need to focus on global integration which means we are not going going to become fixated on regional conflict just as a regional conflict that we are going to look it up to the we are going to look at opportunity as it applies a place of adversaries and that creates so many permutations of potential estimates. To your point when we draw what say a National Intelligence estimate or something that stays on the shelf is a 2019 edition when you are trying to get that integrated and that global presents a problem. How do you go back and fill in variables that contributed to that particular estimate with some realtime urgency once the though . Enter what we were classifying as our joint concept for intelligence operations and to your point its a spiral estimate. Its basically trying to get this going with multiple variables so that we can rest assured that at least at some juncture all of the data is being looked at but we are being cued to possibly reassess a new estimate. In case our Industry Partners didnt. Up on that static assessment Data Summaries that drive decisionmaking doesnt fit in the modern dynamic world. How does industry help us to build the very dynamic spiral estimate as the world changes and is the variables change and how do you see those different permutations so that drive decisionmaking at the policy and strategic level . Thats an area that almost any publication we put out there begins to be obsolete. How do we make that more dynamic we are going to leverage just a little bit here. There are lots of questions and comments today about computation. Jeff spent 10 years at centcom says he got to see one of the great powers carry out its strategy. Im going to ask jeff to help us characterize the challenges hes on the front end as assistant command specifically as china walks through its strategy. Ill give you an extra 30 seconds. Let me add my thanks to everybody joining us today. A great conversation. I think i would preference my conversation with china as my time at pacom with two quick stories. In 2014 in 2015 i happen to be running a for general breedlove at you, and working through what was up similar problem set. Russia was going through an evolution that a handful of operations had to be done under certain amount of cover and a question for you is how do you eliminate that and how do you convince the rest of your allies and partners or your own department of defense in this case russia presented. The second piece is way back when if you go back 10 years when i was a student at the National War College we have is very some old piece of china. It was two columns by two rows in china continuing to rise and china unable to continue the momentum in china being friendly to powers or china being an adversary. Really a decade ago no one was saying china could sustain its rise economically and domestically and internationally are militarily while still presenting a challenge to the international order. In 2016 pacom which is probably where you want me to start the story in the first piece i came to grips with all the assessments that have been made previously china had far surpassed all of those estimations that we have made. We used to rely on a handful of things about china. We had a quantitative and qualitative and experiential ability to do whatever we needed to do and go beyond. We were far more danced than other areas. Turns out china had five and sixyear plans methodically over 25 or 30 years systematically addressing all the areas where we had an advantage over the years. The first piece, my first job at pacom was illuminating and really understanding where china is in that journey that they were on and what kind of a threat it presented. The great partnerships with the National Community and it is remarkable what china was able to do in that period of time. The period of the tail end of that 18 months was the crafting of the new National Defense strategy so that really parallel back to how do we convince the rest of the department what china looks like and what are their goals and objectives Going Forward in the piece i would offer to you is that the macro level i consider china an open book. They there academics write considerably. The plan is a nation and they move out in a very large way. We know their National Objectives are to restore or achieved regional hegemony to displace the u. S. As a global power and to change some of the International Organizations out there to be more advantageous to chinas model. If we know that it becomes than what we worked on second which is the hard part what do you do about it so the peace that i would offer here is that while we used to rely on china being able to build a lot of stuff but not being able to trade with it they have worked through all of those issues and they are presenting as we have seen most recently which included not that long ago very dynamic capability to employ highend equipment against the scenario that should cause a variety of regional partners to take note of what they are attempting to do. I would say china has tried to keep their intentions below the radar script so it doesnt elicit that kind of response that we would normally take and they were certainly counting on an ability to use ties in the academic business and the community to make it challenging in decisions about what we are going to do to address that. Where we sit today in my view is a challenge for all of us is what is it that we can do today. We are in the a competition space today. China would certainly like us to take little to no action to focus on the urgent versus the longterm issues and i think what i would offer is an important piece for us is to understand the great power of competition and do well in that conflict and poster ourselves. So two, four, five, 20 years ago , cued up that way. I would like to jump on that. We have a new secretary, deputy secretary. The good thing is they have maintained all of our Department Like focus on the National Defense strategy. We arent seeing any changes there. Part is seeing china and russian modernizing the nation. Think jeff hit it on the head. We are in the strategic competition stage right now the department, we do battle well. We do force on force well away by aircraft and tanks. Its that gray zone space that we dont do as well. Its looking at that nest between economic and National Security. I think about chinas one belt one road initiative. Military planners really care about who is operating what port where. Most Missions Care about who is operating railways and we care about resilient Communication Telecom networks so all of these things are happening now and if we cant effectively be present and counter in a competitive and economic space you are setting yourself up for not being successful if and when the balloon goes up. Just another thing i would mention there is Just Technology as well as and jeff hit on this to we are seeing them in a pretty concerted effort to go after specific technologies. In the past we have been fortunate to maintain that technology in that military advantage. When you are stealing it now youll see the same technology we are doing r d on now will be on the battlefields of that technology advantage. We are doing a lot more on the security front. Is there something the industry could do to help us in securing that technology and managing the supply chain if china doesnt take advantage of the great r d that we do . I put that up as a jump ball. Yeah so the supply chain transparency management increasingly is a concern for us. Obviously we have been focused on a particularly in the i. T. State to what we are finding is its not enough. Its too narrow of a viewpoint and we have tried to certainly open our aperture and work closely with their busy partners to understand the entirety of the supply chain coming through the dia doors in our case in understanding each of the supply chains. Its daunting, theres no question about it but we have to do it and we are increasingly looking to our vendors to come to us with a transparent display if you will so we can understand it and so we can have confidence in it and really make sure that everything that comes through the front doors not compromise throughout whether its equipment, because the cameras going to could be chairs. We need to think or seriously worked together on in the supply chain. Understanding it takes multiple spaces of supply Chain Industry and on the g

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