Transcripts For CSPAN2 BBC Election Night Coverage 20240713

CSPAN2 BBC Election Night Coverage July 13, 2024

To look at this political and landscaping where the conservatives were certainly hoping to make quite a few gains. And in areas where labor has traditionally been pretty strong. Lots of these seats have a lot of rich labor heritage. So im going to go across to the result center and joined rita once again. Shes got a few suggestions again about the likely conservative gains in wales. Rita . These will change hands from labors to conservatives if the exit poll is correct. And you are talking about being nerdy hugh, just think of this. That labor has come first in terms of seats in the votes in wales in the past 26 elections. That since the first world war. That might still be the case, but still we think these seats are likely conservative gains. The labor majority there was less than 2,000 in the last election. And wherefore casting conservatives to gain that seat from labor. This was number 73 on the conservatives target list, so quite some way down. We think the conservatives might have been consists of their market lay be as a labor witch. He may well be on his way out. If that forecast is correct. Quite some. Down number 66, if we just go into brennan and see what the results. This is the votes of last time around in 2017. We are forecasting this is a conservative gain for labor. And just to show you where it fell and is, they are nestling the way on the north coast in wales. That part of that socalled red wall of seats. That have been labor seats for so long but are passing this time round is a conservative gain. And just to show you what we think is happening to the vote share here, labors down 12 points conservatives up eight points. In the brexit Party Getting six points. That did not exist last time around. So thats their share of the votes. We are forecasting tonight. Another couple of Seats Available is the conservatives in 2016 labor ticket in 2017, we are forecasting the conservatives will get it again tonight. And bridge and we mention that a little bit earlier in the evening, will the candidates told the bbc that his neck and neck there with eight potential recounts. Thats another one to watch. Rita thank you very much and that is fascinating. Ambridge and who happens to be my birthplace is is solidly and normally but back in the 80s it was represented by the conservatives, and if you look at some of those other seats including dell and in north wales have had some conservatives and the past. Ellens was the conservatives back in the 80s. So its not all solid labor patterns but for the most part when you look at these areas including rex and by the way, which has been labor since 1935, that would be a bit of an earthquake if that they took some place like wrexham. Thats good with the National Accounting center and sean lloyd is there. Sean wadia picking up and the parties they are about the likely patterns in wales overnight . While hugh, as you say of course wales, and labor is seen a donnie menons party here maybe since 1922. And wales very much making up half of labors redwall. Overall to lead the European Union, and it is in those names seats that like wrexham and like the veil, like chloe val like dallen, like alan and decide which picked out we have been thinking could potentially change hands. Now those seats have been forecast in the past to change from red to blue. But they have not in fact done so. However, we are hearing this evening that changes could be afoot. And we have heard from the veil of soy that the conservatives are feeling confident there. You mentioned your birthplace of bridgend, i have the birthplace of rick sent. That is a conservative and elected this evening and it will certainly be a first. And it could be a first female conservative and wales as well. Also, bridge and was mentioned in that has been labor since 1987, and i can tell you that mark drakes was the first minister of wales was actually out on the doorstep in bridgend on wednesday, the final day of campaigning, so perhaps giving indication that welsh labor did feel it was going to be tight there. And i can bring you a little bit of reaction from the wells conservatives, they are calling the exit poll encouraging. They are saying that people on the doorstep is to telling them that they are turning to the conservative from labor because they did not like Jeremy Corbin. Another piece of news i can bring you as well as that labor are feeling worried and gallo learned. And theyve taken that from the conservatives in 2017 and we are hearing that they are concerned that they will be returning to the conservatives this evening. So, it could be an interesting evening in wales, certainly plenty for us to keep her eyes on. Thank you very much will talk to you in a little bit later. For decades it has been labor hands escrowed a a rural area in many parts. But quite late its been labor until fairly recently. When it was taken by the conservatives back to labor in 2017. And now it looks like the neck and neck again. So the story world is fascinating. Questions there from sean about labor people saying its all about Jeremy Corbin. So with that female and to join andrew once again. Thank you hugh im still looking at central and the West Midlands. The candidate they are for the is garrett snell he is defending the majority of all 4,000. He joins us from the constituency. Mr. Snell house looking fusion i . Is disastrous. The exit poll is a catastrophe for the labour party and i would say i suspect, my state will be parts of the seed that falls to the conservatives this evening. This is one of the worst results the labour party could have ever imagined. It is all well and good saying that weve made some gains there are always to keep things there, the fact is we could have another five years of this government with probably three conservative. The untold horrors that they will unleash in that country lays firmly at the door of those running for the National Parties campaign. And the decisions they have made about what to target and the source. Just to be clear although the votes have not been fully counted, you think youve lost . Yes. Will john met dowell, your constituency vote to leave the referendum. Its aleave constituency. John mcdonald just told me a little over an hour ago that the labor seems be doing so badly was all down to breakfast. You agree that . Is a lovely and toxic combination of the facts, the messages still heard by the debaters that the labour party tried to stop brexit. It would be remiss of me to it not mention Jeremy Corbin has come up on the doorsteps and some people really like him, some people really dislike him. John is right to say it was brexit. If the labour party had a choice we can either have stop or a six and unfortunately some of this siren stories with the big liberal democrats in london find that stopping brexit and therefore not looking at future leadership. It was much more important to respect the marginal constituencies in the midlands and the northeast. And they sacrifice us for whatever things they want to do next. Jeremy and johnny been the dominant figures in your party for several years now. They are spearheading this election campaign. Is it time for them to go . Yes. And what direction would you like to see the labour party go now . Would you like to see it continue with corbin ism without mr. Corbin . Move to its more traditional social democratic roots . I am a part of the social Democratic Movement in the labour party. But i dont think it helpful to fight define the future of the labour party by one or two individuals. The labour party has a very good manifesto for some areas around nationalization of industry, around how we would for education in hospitals, and such. But i think when you think about how does our present position whitewashed over all the other good things we were offering to the people and those small midland towns that want to leave the European Union. Unfortunately we missed it and unfortunately we are going to have five years of conservative government. And we are going to be in a position for the next general election certainly the majority of the government is still going to be very, very far away. My fear and concern isnt the jobs of my colleagues. Its that im not sure what states its going to be in after the election. Im not quite clear what youre saying. Are you saying that you your remaining colleagues in the party that move labor to a much more remain position. Are they the reason youre losing tonight . Its collective failure of those at the top, not everybody. Like andrew and angela have worked very hard to make sure the voices of those outside of london were heard. But ultimately, we have a choice to stop the tories or brexit. And we decided to stop brexit because we prioritize. Not losing sees to liberal democrats in london rather than the longterm decline of the labor vote. And unfortunately the decision has led the labour party to be our government for the next five years. Thank you very much for joining us. Even the labor candidate before the votes are counted tonight hes already saying hes lost. We were just thinking the Party Members were under pressure. Which is why i want to go to martha our colleague in denver on east which is the constituency which jos and. The exit poll suggesting not such good results. What used to picking up there . Absolutely if you look at what the exit poll is predicting for scotland as a whole, could that mean the smp with the leaders get the lead. She did leave the s p back in 15 and i was talking to conservative behind me, his view is that the whats going on here is on the edge and she might scrape through in the end. S p counselor said that they are quietly confident. But others are not having any of it. With a picking up on the ground as they are confident, she will still hold the seat. But as you have been discussing in your program its going to be an interest whatever happens here in the east, theres going to mean a big inquest on how the liberal democrats do nationally. Its an unfair strategy. I was talking to one senior who said they buried the points with 12 seats, and 20 seats, and also to a senior figure in the party who is very critical of the Party Strategy on the voting article 50, stopping without a referendum. He says that was a disaster. It was a historical misjudgment. Lots of questions. Very good timing what are they suggesting for an account in Bishop Briggs . We are expecting account not for a little while yet probably around 3 00 a. M. It was 20 to three in 2017, so theyll let you know soon as we hear anything. Martha thank you again for keeping an ion in Bishop Briggs. Now with me just some thoughts laura on just what we heard previously. Is that possibly the first person that we know hes not a corbin supporter, but he has a very strident things to say. Weve just seen the facts labor candidate who conceded live on air that that part of the country thats been labor labor labor with that theyve been pushing so hard he just said publicly that he believes Jeremy Corbin and John Mcdonald have to go. Thats the problem. Of course he was trying to hold onto his seat but very clearly as weve seen with others online and publicly that time is up. And that labor must change direction. And that will bring us to theres other questions the next few days that if these numbers are anything, where was the mistake here. Theyre trying to get rid of Jeremy Corbin but the members were so infused by his program after 2,017 because they lost but went forward a little bit. The decision of leadership was not to think what did they do to wrong, should they move to the center or go for that the to the left. And if you take it out of the equation for minute but its up. Therell be many labor people are people of the party saying this result is like this, surely must prove that moving to the left, may be a comfort zone for lots of people in the party. But its not what can win the country. Going to be a battle royal over the next 24 hours or so, no question. You mentioned brexit and thats unavailable and i just want to put this into catherine. We talked a short while ago about the likely speed of the timetable now that Boris Johnson is likely to end up with the majority where he can do it he likes basically. What can you say again about the kind of timetable in the next couple of months . How rapid is that going to be so that we can ask about the response . My expectation is they will bring, build the brexit bill back to parliament for christmas with the arguments of the stages, and will all happen in january so we can lead on Boris Johnson scheduled the end of january. Lets see whats happening in swindon. At the election, do hereby give notice that the number of votes recorded for each candidate at this said election is as follows. Andrew hedley john, commonly known as andy bentley, green party 1,710. [applause] critchlow, kc, liberal democrat to stop brexit 4,408. Applause Catherine Farrow commonly known as kate linacre labour party. 16,413. Applause public sin, justin paul, the conservative Party Candidate, 32,584. [applause] [background noises] the turnout was 67. 15 and i do by hereby declare that justin is duly elected. Thats the majority there in swindon north. But now its a big majority of 16,171 on the turnout of 67 . Hes been an mp there since 2010 caitlin linacre on 16,004 to 13 and others are behind. Lets look at the share of the vote because the tories are taking 59 of the vote in swindon north which has been seen as a path for the key labored of task. 30 labor 8 linden and 3 of the green. Whats happened to the share of the votes . There you have it. A 6 increase to the tories. And 9 drop to labor in swindon north is just the kind of seatwork there is a big labor surge they would be doing well. The swing is more than 7 from labor to the conservative. So again, a very strong pointer force. In this the first result weve had of the northeast of england. This is down south of classic canada territory were laborintensive territory swindon north. Im interesting to see what happens in swindon south where they much more marginal contest going on there. So there you have it, and laura think that result again alliance what happens under Jeremy Corbins leadership in an area like this. No question about that and this is in the plans the debate thats a raging online. Its good to be huge in the labour party in the days, weeks, had. As the move going to move further to the left ever going to see jerry corbin england power . Disney many people watching tonight and around the country. He built up a very strong and devoted fan base if you like, but for some people he was the one who is really capable of changing for the better. But there are always people in the party that wanted to know if it is realistic they could build on a coalition big enough to win the country. And that resulted in the swindon seat. You have to win swindon seat avenue you hope to build majority in taking power in any kind of convincing way. And theyre going the wrong way. Also also worth noting, one of the labor candidates there was one of those on the list whod been criticized and had to apologize for being found out to shared antisemitic material. That too for vote voters has been going around the country. How are they handling semitism. Jeremy corbin is always said hes done everything he could. Weve heard from voters people carry care about that be on the jewish community. So there we have the conservatives hang on to sweden north in tomlinson just reelected. Just before we have those results we were chatting about the brexit how it goes. Now were looking at the brexit and then his new parliament. But we hear people talk about speeding up the process, is that something that you recognize that that you, the heart of the eu and the commission think is a good thing . Are they receptive to that or not . When youre looking at the ratification of the brexit deal, the one that was agreed with Boris Johnson, the use going to say tomorrow at its summit that they would like it ratified as speedily as possible by the new parliament here. Why . Because it had three years of uncertainty that has been corrosive in the uk in across the eu and its been really harmful for businesses. It is also tarnished your leaders reputation for not being able to speed things up and get on with brexit and see whats good going on. But they will also say tomorrow is that they want to underline this ambition for broad comprehensive trade deal with the uk. After brexit. They dont believe that can be none in Boris Johnsons timetable. He says he would like to get this taught this chime table to december of next year. But the eu is prepared to say to him if you want a quick and dirty, but its going to have to be under our rules. And that would mean the uk signing up to all sorts of irregular. Where would be the take back control and all that . What your leaders dont know, and ive had a couple of word text since we last spoke is the assumption is if there is a big majority for Boris Johnson. This could allow flexibility to actually have a softer brexit or let trade deal negotiations go beyond december of next year. But maybe not . We dont actually know what brexit, Boris Johnson once. Perhaps he could be more nationalist, the more National Brexit then leave sort of been led to expect so far. So your leaders tonight are sort of nervous as they look ahead really. Thats a fastening scenario just trying to work out what this majority will do for Boris Johnson that his approach to brexit and what agenda really he wants to push. And maybe see what he can get out of the European Union more than is done already parading catherine from your. Of view what is your expectation, the way the government will now work in the Boris Johnson with a very, very solid working majority. Whats can happen that brexit process. I think thats going to be very fascinating to watch. When Boris Johnson comes anyones to do everything in a hurry. He was rapidly trying to go to the same stages we negotiated the deal. Pushing it through parliament in weve been doing for th

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