Of his bestseller, what it takes for this clip he recounts the aneurysm that mr. Biden suffered in 1988 following his failed run for that years democratic president ial nomination. And how it impacted his life and political career. Will you have to remember that joe biden i think was forced out of the race in september of 1987. By a series of revelations, none of which individually were kind of minor and almost laughable when you look back on them. But by the time they were digested to the great long snake of the Washington Press corps, it was an elephant of a character flaw. So biden had been drummed out. And he really did not come out speaking into the turn of the year, 1988 the early part of that year. It was february the first time he had been out, talking on a college campus. He went to the university of rochester as a matter fact. Were either . Guest out no i was not there. I was in New Hampshire with all of the good members of the pack. And joe gave his speech at the university of rochester and he took questions for several hour hours. When he got back to his motel room all the sudden he got bang hit like a brick hit him in the head. He was dizzy, he was nauseated, he could barely see and did not know what was happening thought it couldve been a heart attack. But he did not know what it was. He just knew that he could barely move. He did not seem to have any will to do anything for he lay down on the bed, and just thought if he could get home he might be alright. And he lay there a wake, and terrible pain all night. And finally dragged himself to the plane the next day. Got back to wilmington. And they literally had to carry him up his stairs at his house in wilmington. Has brother called, fortunately, the guys got a nose for trouble and a nose for his brothers in need and said just look, number schedule number anything, put them in the hospital right now today. In that very night, through a terrible snowstorm they took him by ambulance down to walter reed where a surgeon, doctor george decided there is no time to be wasted there is an aneurysm in his school they had to open his school and get at this aneurysm. I dont know if the audience will know what an aneurysm is, it is a weak spot in the wall of your artery. If it should burst in your school is thought that the loss of blood will kill you or but the force of the blood coming from the artery will literally start pulverizing your brain tissue. It pumps out like a fire hose. They didnt have any time to waste. They wheeled him into the surgery. It was going to before for nap hours. It turned out to be nine. The in your burst on the table fortunately outward away from joes brain. As a terrible mess and a critical time in his life. They literally gave him last rites there in the hospital. And fortunately, by grace of god, got him back together. He woke up being joe comic check this all out himself. He counted the ceiling tile in his room, multiplied them to calculate the area of the ceiling, spelled his name, spelled backwards. Tried to think how long he had been out. He found that he could think, he could talk, he could move his limbs. And then it dawned on him that had he been campaigning in New Hampshire, which he certainly would have been had he not been forced out of the race, he would have been dead because he would have been up in the mountains. Up there they never would have gotten him to doctor george in time. And what it did for joe it reawakened his own sense of destiny that someone has a plan for joe biden. It may develop better but what happened to him and that campaign. Stomach yet details of the ambulance ride going to the hospitals wife is with them . Guest thats right. His wife, his kids and ted kaufman who was his closest aide, is his closest 80 was right there. We would direct quotes of her saying some Strong Language to that driver get this guest they had an ambulance from wilmington. They were going down to walter reed. The wilmington ambulance guys did not know where dhec walter reed was on the washington beltway. Marilyn kopp source was a pick up at the state line and never met them. It was the middle of a snowstorm, beau biden the senators oldest son was riding shotgun. In the lead cop car. And he had a ball cap on and a parka. In the state cop leading them must have thought that bo was some kind of federal Swat Team Guy or secret service guy or something. They get into maryland and he turns to both who is at the time i think 18 years old and said where we going . And bo said i dont know where were going. You are the one who is supposed to know. Until they just stop by the side of the road. And finally jill biden was ready, the senators wife was riding in the back with joe started hammering on the back wall of that ambulance thing i dont care what you know, just get this damn thing going. She saw her husband in peril in his life lying there as theyre fooling around the radio and she was going to have it. The democratic and the partys electoral strategies prepped next jill biden reflects on the importance of her family and community. This is from may of 2019. So, during one of the Campaign Years people wanted joe to run for president , i was against it and i told joe i was against it before anyone came over to our house. I knew why they were coming, they were going to try to talk him into it. I was on the pool in the lower level and i could hear them upstairs they give got to do this you got to do this i was getting madder and madder, i was so angry parts i walk into the house. Versus thing is i was a magic marker. I had a twopiece bathing suit on. So i wrote know on my stomach. [laughter] and i walked through the meeting. [laughter] [applause] [laughter] so anyway they got the message. [laughter] they said i think you made your point. [laughter] host you spoke of, we sell this in the video which was beautiful. At the beginning of the book you quote the poems, the childhood friends. The title of your book is taken from that poem. But there is one line in the book that i was very curious about. Dont turn your head, keep looking at the bandaged place. And i was just curious, this seems very significant to you and i am curious what that specific line means to you . The bandage place i think is making your self, when you are vulnerable, when you are hurting. When you experience loss like we have in our family, what that means is you are looking at the wound, at the scar. Dont believe for a moment that you are healing yourself. And that is what i found through loss. Is that i never could have made it through without friends and family. Many, many, many of you in this room who supported me throughout. Have supported joe. With your notes, your cards, your thoughts and your caring. I think really, you know i teach at a Community College. And i feel the same way about my school. About the Community College that really, it is a larger community. And it is always it is helping one another get through the tough times. Whether that is your english class, through loss, through illness, or whatever youre going through. I think it is that sense of community that helps us. That we lean on one another. And thats what helps us to get through. Host you also talk a lot about your close relationship with your parents and your sisters growing up. And you referred to this as the circle of loyalty, which i thought was beautiful. And then later you talk about joe and the boys. And you say, when all the others turn the back and walk away you can count on me to it stay. That was their bond. Shared memory of grief, absolute trust. It was them against the world. And they were asking me to it join that sacred circle. And it seems like with joe and the boys you found something that is very close to the relationship you had with both your parents and your sisters. And it seems like this is a very strong theme that seems to run to your life. And i am just curious parade when creating these types of relationships in your life, how did that inform you once you got to washington . Did it help you in terms of navigating those new . Guest yes sure. Our families very closely when i met joe i thought bo and hunter and joe had a very close circle. And then i felt that love as they opened up that circle and allowed me to it come in. And i think that our family, we have always and everything together. We have sort of circled the wagons. I think when you are in public life you need that. You need that loyalty, you need that love, that caring. And so as we go forward in our next journey, we will devote like we have always done. I think loyalty is really an important traits. So i think i had that growing up with my own sisters. Tell the story in the book that i and the oldest of five girls. And so my younger sister came home and said to me, she was crying and she said jill, drew always rose worms on me at the bus stop. She was crying about it. I said alright, this was a bully in our neighborhood. So i went up the hill, gray who were road, downtown. I went up to his house and i knocked on the door. And he opened the door. And i pulled back and i punched him right in the face. [laughter] and i said dont you ever throw worms on my sister again. Then i was so scared iran all the way home. [laughter] and my father was home. And iran in and i said daddy i just punch drew in the nos. And he said good for you julie being. So is that kind of loyalty we took care of one another. Stu maxey spends coverage of the Democratic NationalConvention Starts this monday. And book tv is taking a look about books in president ial candidate joe biden. Next in 2010 on joe bidens life an early political career. Tell me just a little bit about this book. You probably all know the stories about why this incredible beginning in politic politics, county counsel and delaware then three years later running against an entrenched republican senator, for his seat and upsetting him. Two weeks after he was elected to the senate and before he was old enough to serve in the senate and that was at age 30 in the interim is a week before christmas and three school age children, two boys and an infant were a terrible car accident outside of wilmington. A huge truck plowed into their car. Biden was totally crushed. Was thinking of abandoning going into the senate at all. It had to be persuaded by his family and also by the Senate Majority leader at the time, Mike Mansfield and other leading democrats like Hubert Humphrey to come to the senate. Some argued to do that nothing else as a therapy for the debt in his grief. I was only by that pleading that members of the family urged that they did so. You may recall stories about joe biden always featured his commuting on the amtrak between wilmington and washington. It began at the time of the accident. He was determined he was going to be with the boys. They were then toddlers. And so he did every night. Every morning he would get on the train for washington. And on that night go back on the train to wilmington. In fact he was sworn into the senate at the hospital bed of vote biden who was still in the hospital at the time. And he continued to do that incredibly for 36 years. Other members of the three delaware congressional delegation often fell in line accompanying him they turned out to be so close, it was a split delegation with at least one republican and the three men delegation. As a result of this behavior, the schedule he had, biden was not very well known in the senate by the other senators for quite a while. He went home every night. All the others would eat and drink together and socialize together. All during the week. Also the fact in the always is a teetotaler. Just didnt have much to do with the social circuit. He bragged often that he never went any receptions. Its pretty much been the same now that he is Vice President. A little more so hes been seen around washington a little more. But he and his second wife, jil jill, go back to their home in wilmington just about every weekend. What did other senators learn from this . Its what everyone in delaware do. Biden had an uncommon commitment to the state to his family, to his catholic religion. I was a center of his life from the earliest days as a kid scranton, pennsylvania, bluecollar town. Thats not a cliche to say that faith and family saw through biden in his early tragedies of his life. It has continued to be a main clutch for him throughout his career. Were taking a look at books about democratic president ial candidate joe biden in anticipation of next weeks nash convention. 2019 book tv talked with the washington post, Steven Livingston about the working relationship between Vice President biden and president obama. As we all saw the working relationship is pretty powerful for receipt of the pictures. Them messing around together, having a good time for the also works very well together as a team. It was a unique relationship. The fact that they were a very strong working team, but they also developed into a friendship that we have never really seen in the white house. You wrote the book they were wary of each other at the beginning. Speeches they were wary. Barack obama came into the senate in 2005 as a shiny new item for the Democratic Party. He was a big celebrity. He was the man on the move. He was the coolest thing the Democratic Party and seen for a long time. Barack obama was something completely different. I mean joe biden was something completely different. Its been the senate for more than 30 years. He was a man of the senate, he basically grew up there. He believed in the hierarchy. He believed in late the way the system works. He was little bit wary of obama. Obama was the guy on the move. He wanted to slow obama down a little bit and have them show some respect for the institution he just entered. So they sort of circled each other a bit. Host how did biden change the role the Vice President . Cheney expanded it. Did biden feel that as well . What did he do for obama . Guest biden wednesday to be very different type of Vice President. He wanted to be obamas chief counselor pretty wanted to be the guy who is the last guy in the room whispering in obamas room when Big Decisions had to be made. He really fashioned his vice presidency on a prototype that Walter Mondale had created under jimmy carter. And mondale understood the Vice President was a guy who is not somebody who worked at the discretion of the president but was selected with the president so could not be fired. He was the man who had to stand up and tell the president the truth. Had to speak truth to power. Biden understood that as well and wanted to follow mondos footsteps. But also expand the role. Host what did obama think of bidens media gap throughout the years . Guest there quite a few as well though. They are still occurring today. I think on the whole, obama was very generous about them. They didnt really mean that much to obama. He was able to look past them. Obama was looking at the long game. He wasnt thinking about the ups and downs of the day or the moment pretty one to see what he could do for america longterm. So these little blips in the road that occurred because biden misspoke or biden got ahead of him a little bit on some issues were not really that important. Because in the big picture, obama had someplace he wanted to get. And he did not want to get distracted by the small step. Was biden always i need presidency as a vp . Guest i think thats a hard question for think it was in his mind all the time. It was in his mind before he became Vice President pretty ran before and did not do too well. The presidency has always been something that is been in his heart. He is always wanted to be president. Could be almost unfair to say he wasnt thinking about it will he was Vice President. But he did not make that obvious at all. And it didnt distract him from doing the job he had to do is Vice President. He was very loyal, helpful, helpmate to obama. She went white he think president obama has not endorsed Vice President biden for president yet . Guest its really politics. While they really adore each other. And i think they still do. It is a marriage of politics. It is a political marriage. Obama wants to be sure, i think that we elect a democratic president. And for him to endorse anybody at this point before theres an actual bona fide candidate would be sort of jumping the gun. He has one big shot. That bigshot has to be the biggest shot he can take. So if he were to endorse a biden or anybody before we have the true candidate, we do have that candidate anything he says will be diminished a little bit. Wouldnt have the strength that it would have when he says its for one final time. Steve livingston was rock obama and joe bidens relationship unique for president Vice President . Guest i think it was completely unique. I dont think with ever seen a president Vice President behave the way they did. They enjoyed each others company. They went out together. Their families were close. Bidens obamas children and bidens grandchildren spent time together, had overnights together when out together. Vice president of president dont normally have a very close relationship. As we know through history Vice President only exists for the purpose of taking over the president for whatever reason. So that is not the most Fertile Ground to create the most intimate relationship. Because you know the Vice President is there for one reason one reason only. Kennedy was always a little wary and nervous run lyndon johnson. It may have been just johnsons personality and other things. Johnsons sort of drew that to fruit and summed it up one day in his colorful language were he said every time im in the presence of john kennedy, i feel like a god damn raven hovering over his shoulder. So theres that sense of pretension between a president Vice President that always existed. 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