Transcripts For CSPAN2 In Depth In Depth With Doris Kearns G

Guest that is exactly where i went. I went to Public School and go to ccd wednesdays and send that got my confirmation in 1955. Spring training. I would go to spring training to write some sort of article and play around and see the players in a relaxed setting. I wrote an article about his quest for the batting title and turned out to be an extraordinary story because i got close to his sister, his mother, his sister and his family, his sister was a big history buff so she came to concorde, my hometown and i took her around and we became friends as a result and in 1986 the year the red sox almost won the world series we were talking, i mentioned wade boggs had a broken rib and we didnt think the doctor was taking good care of him, we have to get him to another doctor, they said he should go to a different doctor and what happened is the mother called wade boggs, he told her he loved her and then she was killed in a car crash with her mother, his grandmother and mother were gone and for daisy just went home and no one knew when he would come back to the red sox and i got a call, he just wanted to thank me because of my call he had a chance to tell her i loved her right before she died. What started out as a frivolous baseball article about wade boggs meant more involved. Host these are the boys. Guest these are the boys, richard on the left in his 30s, joey is in my lap, 27, 28. Host our next call from los angeles. Caller as a comment relative to what the caller in florida said about the iraq war, Mika Burzynski is not a big fan of democracy, you mapped out the strategy 1996, with the chessboard, the people who currently run this country, little d democrats, they would not be trying to overthrow hugo chavez and also having overthrown and previously destabilized aristide and placed their successors what i would say relative to lincoln is these people currently running our country are coming out of the imperial presidency which he was first to create through executive order. A thing that is clung to buy element of the far right there is some truth to the notion that when Congress Adjourns sine die there is no full lawful way the president can use Emergency Powers to reconvene it. Guest you are right that what happened after fort sumter, congress was not in progress. It was a long time to get there so lincoln did have to take executive action and hope when congress came into being in july of 1861 is no question war has centralized power in the executive, it happened in world war i, world war ii and it has happened in recent years with foreignpolicy having such a precedent so we have to worry about that. One of the things that saddens me about the history of the iraq war is the debate that took place in congress before congress authorized the president to take actions with Saddam Hussein was so short, robert bird said it is terrible we are not debating this in the halls of congress, the democrats were to blame as well as the republicans. Remembering back on that everyone was worried about the midterm elections and wanted to get this over and they were afraid of not standing up and withdrawing after september 11th but as a result we went into that without Congress Really fully absorbing the information, if we have longer time, more intelligence reports, forced the administration to talk more to congress maybe that authorization would not have taken place. Host from personal experiences with Lyndon Johnson, talk about robert caros biography . Guest he is as good a writer as we will ever get. His ability to render when he talked about electricity coming to rural texas is magical the way he makes it come alive to the People Living there and as he keeps going along he understood Lyndon Johnson. May not have liked the things he said about him but johnson would be proud to know a man of his stature spent his life working on it. I have this fear that in the afterlife there will be a panel of all the president cyber studied and each one will be telling me what i got wrong and the first person will be Lyndon Johnson saying how about that book on the kennedys, twice as long as the one about me, robert caros look as three times as long as what i have written. Host in minnesota. Caller roosevelt achieved so much like Social Security, the federal reserve, fair labor standards, fdic, unemployment insurance, the g. I. Bill, temporary relief jobs but i always believed his best work was extraordinary leadership in world war ii. How or why was Franklin Roosevelt so effective during world war ii when the country was so unified especially when you compare that to the quagmire in vietnam where it is going so bad. Guest a long war with chief executive lives. And in that regard, 12, 13 Million People working in the factories and 14 million were drafted but also had auxiliary fire, auxiliary police, drug drives, it was not an efficient way to raise money for the war, he had scrap rubber derives all of which was designed, if we were fighting a war abroad everyone should feel connected. After september 11th president bush had an incredible opportunity, just as roosevelt did, doctor deal has to become doctor win the war and it made the liberals mad because he had to have a partnership to build the tanks, weapons and planes necessary for the war, gave him great contacts, antitrust regulations, they became important to him as he protected labor at the same time, president bush gone to the country and said doctor tax cut has to become mister 9 11 and use the resources the tax cut provided for emergency situation to make it better in our country, might have been ready for katrina, might have had a Health System for biological attacks, good in its own right as well as a biological attack. Could have been auxiliary police, potentially a draft again so more people were felt to be part of this effort instead of a small group of people in a volunteer army. All of that was possible. There was such unity after 9 11 and what history will suggest, afghanistan produced the unity, was iraq the right battle to fight to keep that unity alive, that unity seems to be breaking apart and with all that, you would hope our homefront could have been unified in a different way. Host you describe your relationship and no ordinary time franklin and eleanor roosevelt, the American Home front during world war ii between Sarah Roosevelt, her son, and eleanor. Guest i would not have wanted Sarah Roosevelt if i were a motherinlaw. She was very important to franklin, she gave him whatever the confidence is that he had as a young boy and as a president and then older man came from that mothers undying love. Her only child, her husband, much older man, she did on them so much so that it was hard for him. He was young, she took him out of school, didnt let him go until he was older than other people and never got along peacefully with men of his own age but i dont think she was ready to let him go and as a result of a had a hard time finding a relationship with her husband, she created two houses in new york, one for her and one for them, a corner that went between that, she would be the one who says no, eleanors child, a very difficult forces and eleanors life, made the marriage more complicated than it otherwise would have been even with fundamental confidence. Host how long did she live . Guest she died in the 40s, her death was very hard for a long time and ive got to give her enormous credit. Santa rosa, california. A rumor that i heard, great show, lincoln, if it is true, might have been bisexual or gay and also did eleanor have a lesbian relationship . Guest those questions belong together in a certain way because heres what i came away thinking, people assume he might have been day, that he slept in the same bed with his best friend joshua for three years and he wrote flowery letters to steve which ended with yours forever, lincoln. If you look at that period of time, it is more intense than it would be now and womens were intense with one another and sleeping in the same bed was the usual. Lincoln was on the circuit in illinois. He would sleep 2 or 3 to a bed. The only person who got his own bed was a judge to weigh 300 pounds. I discovered between the other people i was writing about, they both lost their wives, before he was secretary of the treasury and here is what stanton writes to chase. Ever since our intercourse last summer no one is in my mind more waking and sleeping, i dream of you at night and want to hold you by the hand and say i love you. No one suggested stanton was gay or chase was gay. Seward was in the state legislature, became romantically involved without sex, anytime i think of you i feel woman is in my feelings about you, no one suggested either of them were gay. The older colleagues try to make a pass at his wife and almost broke up his marriage. If we look at the times we have to realize men had close attachments, there was no definition of what homosexuality meant until 1868. They felt free to talk to one another in a flowery way that might seem odd in todays modern world. Eleanor wrote flowery letters to her friend llerena hickok and women having stories about the Nineteenth Century and early Twentieth Century to say it was common for women to write that way to each other and part of it is women and men couldnt have friendships the same way they can today. Everything was so structured and chaperoned so men and women women became more intensively involved, in the context of the time is more important than to label them from our own perspective. The question has been answered by thomas lee. Guest cant believe i forgot already. Host the Chicago River was filled in 1860 and torn down in 1867. Guest that is what is great about this show. Caller what was the deal with general mcclellan, from Supreme Union commander he certainly seemed very helpful to the south and ran against lincoln in 1864. Was he a highlevel senator. How concern, with the old colonial powers, french troops in mexico. Was he concerned they would carve up the north American Continent as they had . Guest he was very concerned. England and france viewed the civil war as an opportunity for them not only to come back, they wanted the whole democratic experiment to fail. They are protecting monarchy and a different form of government. If people could not govern themselves it was good for them and especially the aristocrats, wealthy classes in england and france who in many ways supported the south in their struggle against the north so it was important seward as secretary of state did yeoman work in keeping the english people out of the war and keeping the french out of the war. The working men were in favor of the northern cause because they were in favor of emancipation but trying to maneuver into a situation where if the north were to lose they could pick off mexico and things to be done. As far as your first question goes what was the first question . Are you still there . Guest he is not. I get to it when i come back to it. Host ray anderson of West Virginia says if lincoln were involved in Politics Today which party would he align himself with . The interesting thing, he was very loyal, took a long time to leave the wing before he became a republican so he would stay with the Republican Party and try to move it in a progressive fashion so that it did care about people without educational opportunity, people who are poor and he wants the government is there to do with individuals what they could not do so well for themselves. I think he would have different philosophy from the conservative elements of the Republican Party but he would make the Republican Party what he believes in rather than switch to another party. General mcclellan. Lincoln in 1864. Back to the callers argument about what you said at her i remember the question. I dont think it is fair to say mcclellan was a senator. What happened is he was a conservative democrat, did not believe emancipation should be a goal in the war and as a result he was very upset when lincoln introduced the emancipation proclamation. He thought it would give more resistance to the south was the trouble with him as a general which lincoln should have seen earlier than he did was he was great at organizing the troops, we had no army to begin with, we needed to do that but he created a great engine as lincoln later said but it was a stationary engine. He somehow didnt have whatever it took to take his troops into war. Some argued he loved them so much he didnt want to take them into battle, some argued he really was going slow because he wanted to come to a end without hurting the south but whatever it was he turned out not to be a very good general and lincoln took too long to ask for his resignation. In 1864, summer of 1864 it looked like the fortunes of war were at a low end even though gettysburg had been won in vicksburg had been won to the north, lincoln was not sure he would win another election. Morale was down in the war was going on too long, many lives have been lost, people were blaming him that the menstruation proclamation prolong the war so they thought mcclellan would be the perfect person to run against them because he had the support in the north of conservative democrats, people who thought the war was going on too long and the compromise peace would be a good thing to happen and he thought because he was so popular with the army that he would have the support of this huge element of the army. It turned out lincoln won the army vote which made it so much to him and mcclellan handled the election terribly. s letters to people and in the papers were trouble and he went off, made money but the trouble with mcclellan was he wrote letters to his wife in the civil war and the letters are so damaging that now theyve been published that hurt his whole reputation forever for history. He talks with first guiding that god placed married, he could be a dictator if he wanted to answer such terrible things about lincoln and stanton, texas want ability for any of his failures. He blamed it out right on stanton to the extent that stanton wrote a telegram to the white house saying if i lose this battle it will be your fault, you have sacrifice the army. The telegraph operator was so stunned at this and subordination of that last line that he cut it out so lincoln and stanton didnt see that and it became knowledgeable later. Lincoln after stanton was getting pounded by the newspapers after mcclellan was going every single reason he lost with stanton refused to reinforce and when he had he couldve said to him, lincoln gave a huge speech to a union rally bigger than any rally in which he took responsibility, that is not stanton. I would have sent them if they could, you want to blame stanton, stuff the critic of stanton, just the opposite of lincoln who acknowledged there is immediately, showed responsibility for the failures of his subordinates, mcclellan was just the opposite, always blaming somebody else for what he did. We spent 3 hours with a single starter this month Doris Kearns Goodwin is our guest, 45 minutes, more of your phone calls, california. Cspan29 calling from paris, california. To have such a wonderful, compassionate history, anytime in the future do you plan to write about civil rights . I dont know what i will do next, that is a good idea. One of the difficulties is you get so caught up in what you are doing that it is hard to imagine leaving lincoln right now but in some ways Civil Rights Movement would be the logical outgrowth of the fact that after lincoln left the presidency it still needed that Civil Rights Movement in the 1950 numplaps60s to complete the emancipation and the true beginning of the breakdown of segregation and equality for black americans so it might be a nice sequel. The hard thing, even when i have to move from roosevelt to lincoln and move my roosevelt books out of my study i felt i was betraying roosevelt. It will be a while before i can leave Mister Lincoln behind but at some point soon i will come up with Something Else because i cant wait to be in the thick of another book again. Next call, go ahead. Are you with us . Good afternoon. I wanted to ask you to please opine on the modernday phenom that hightech computerization has eliminated the need of Big Government socialism the democrats offer and what could they possibly bring to the table to assist our Free Enterprise capitalist system. What democrats stand for is the idea that government can aid people in areas where they cannot add themselves which is what lincoln stood for so many years ago and no question in my mind still that Social Security is a fundamental right the democrats are arguing to protect, that there is a need obviously for Free Enterprise, our system is built on that but in some cases that Free Enterprise doesnt become free and youve got corporations that need to have some stimulus from the government to make sure they are not undoing that freedom we stand for and no question issues of healthcare and job creation and issues of poverty that i think democrats traditionally have talked about. Whether or not they have been able to reach the country today to argue those are the values we should be fighting for is the question because they havent won in recent elections but the values that underwrote the Democratic Party in my mind in a 60s when the Civil Rights Movement was there, education came through, to help people who have not had the chance to help themselves when Social Security was updated and civil rights laws were passed and segregation and Public School<\/a> and go to ccd wednesdays and send that got my confirmation in 1955. Spring training. I would go to spring training to write some sort of article and play around and see the players in a relaxed setting. I wrote an article about his quest for the batting title and turned out to be an extraordinary story because i got close to his sister, his mother, his sister and his family, his sister was a big history buff so she came to concorde, my hometown and i took her around and we became friends as a result and in 1986 the year the red sox almost won the world series we were talking, i mentioned wade boggs had a broken rib and we didnt think the doctor was taking good care of him, we have to get him to another doctor, they said he should go to a different doctor and what happened is the mother called wade boggs, he told her he loved her and then she was killed in a car crash with her mother, his grandmother and mother were gone and for daisy just went home and no one knew when he would come back to the red sox and i got a call, he just wanted to thank me because of my call he had a chance to tell her i loved her right before she died. What started out as a frivolous baseball article about wade boggs meant more involved. Host these are the boys. Guest these are the boys, richard on the left in his 30s, joey is in my lap, 27, 28. Host our next call from los angeles. Caller as a comment relative to what the caller in florida said about the iraq war, Mika Burzynski<\/a> is not a big fan of democracy, you mapped out the strategy 1996, with the chessboard, the people who currently run this country, little d democrats, they would not be trying to overthrow hugo chavez and also having overthrown and previously destabilized aristide and placed their successors what i would say relative to lincoln is these people currently running our country are coming out of the imperial presidency which he was first to create through executive order. A thing that is clung to buy element of the far right there is some truth to the notion that when Congress Adjourns<\/a> sine die there is no full lawful way the president can use Emergency Powers<\/a> to reconvene it. Guest you are right that what happened after fort sumter, congress was not in progress. It was a long time to get there so lincoln did have to take executive action and hope when congress came into being in july of 1861 is no question war has centralized power in the executive, it happened in world war i, world war ii and it has happened in recent years with foreignpolicy having such a precedent so we have to worry about that. One of the things that saddens me about the history of the iraq war is the debate that took place in congress before congress authorized the president to take actions with Saddam Hussein<\/a> was so short, robert bird said it is terrible we are not debating this in the halls of congress, the democrats were to blame as well as the republicans. Remembering back on that everyone was worried about the midterm elections and wanted to get this over and they were afraid of not standing up and withdrawing after september 11th but as a result we went into that without Congress Really<\/a> fully absorbing the information, if we have longer time, more intelligence reports, forced the administration to talk more to congress maybe that authorization would not have taken place. Host from personal experiences with Lyndon Johnson<\/a>, talk about robert caros biography . Guest he is as good a writer as we will ever get. His ability to render when he talked about electricity coming to rural texas is magical the way he makes it come alive to the People Living<\/a> there and as he keeps going along he understood Lyndon Johnson<\/a>. May not have liked the things he said about him but johnson would be proud to know a man of his stature spent his life working on it. I have this fear that in the afterlife there will be a panel of all the president cyber studied and each one will be telling me what i got wrong and the first person will be Lyndon Johnson<\/a> saying how about that book on the kennedys, twice as long as the one about me, robert caros look as three times as long as what i have written. Host in minnesota. Caller roosevelt achieved so much like Social Security<\/a>, the federal reserve, fair labor standards, fdic, unemployment insurance, the g. I. Bill, temporary relief jobs but i always believed his best work was extraordinary leadership in world war ii. How or why was Franklin Roosevelt<\/a> so effective during world war ii when the country was so unified especially when you compare that to the quagmire in vietnam where it is going so bad. Guest a long war with chief executive lives. And in that regard, 12, 13 Million People<\/a> working in the factories and 14 million were drafted but also had auxiliary fire, auxiliary police, drug drives, it was not an efficient way to raise money for the war, he had scrap rubber derives all of which was designed, if we were fighting a war abroad everyone should feel connected. After september 11th president bush had an incredible opportunity, just as roosevelt did, doctor deal has to become doctor win the war and it made the liberals mad because he had to have a partnership to build the tanks, weapons and planes necessary for the war, gave him great contacts, antitrust regulations, they became important to him as he protected labor at the same time, president bush gone to the country and said doctor tax cut has to become mister 9 11 and use the resources the tax cut provided for emergency situation to make it better in our country, might have been ready for katrina, might have had a Health System<\/a> for biological attacks, good in its own right as well as a biological attack. Could have been auxiliary police, potentially a draft again so more people were felt to be part of this effort instead of a small group of people in a volunteer army. All of that was possible. There was such unity after 9 11 and what history will suggest, afghanistan produced the unity, was iraq the right battle to fight to keep that unity alive, that unity seems to be breaking apart and with all that, you would hope our homefront could have been unified in a different way. Host you describe your relationship and no ordinary time franklin and eleanor roosevelt, the American Home<\/a> front during world war ii between Sarah Roosevelt<\/a>, her son, and eleanor. Guest i would not have wanted Sarah Roosevelt<\/a> if i were a motherinlaw. She was very important to franklin, she gave him whatever the confidence is that he had as a young boy and as a president and then older man came from that mothers undying love. Her only child, her husband, much older man, she did on them so much so that it was hard for him. He was young, she took him out of school, didnt let him go until he was older than other people and never got along peacefully with men of his own age but i dont think she was ready to let him go and as a result of a had a hard time finding a relationship with her husband, she created two houses in new york, one for her and one for them, a corner that went between that, she would be the one who says no, eleanors child, a very difficult forces and eleanors life, made the marriage more complicated than it otherwise would have been even with fundamental confidence. Host how long did she live . Guest she died in the 40s, her death was very hard for a long time and ive got to give her enormous credit. Santa rosa, california. A rumor that i heard, great show, lincoln, if it is true, might have been bisexual or gay and also did eleanor have a lesbian relationship . Guest those questions belong together in a certain way because heres what i came away thinking, people assume he might have been day, that he slept in the same bed with his best friend joshua for three years and he wrote flowery letters to steve which ended with yours forever, lincoln. If you look at that period of time, it is more intense than it would be now and womens were intense with one another and sleeping in the same bed was the usual. Lincoln was on the circuit in illinois. He would sleep 2 or 3 to a bed. The only person who got his own bed was a judge to weigh 300 pounds. I discovered between the other people i was writing about, they both lost their wives, before he was secretary of the treasury and here is what stanton writes to chase. Ever since our intercourse last summer no one is in my mind more waking and sleeping, i dream of you at night and want to hold you by the hand and say i love you. No one suggested stanton was gay or chase was gay. Seward was in the state legislature, became romantically involved without sex, anytime i think of you i feel woman is in my feelings about you, no one suggested either of them were gay. The older colleagues try to make a pass at his wife and almost broke up his marriage. If we look at the times we have to realize men had close attachments, there was no definition of what homosexuality meant until 1868. They felt free to talk to one another in a flowery way that might seem odd in todays modern world. Eleanor wrote flowery letters to her friend llerena hickok and women having stories about the Nineteenth Century<\/a> and early Twentieth Century<\/a> to say it was common for women to write that way to each other and part of it is women and men couldnt have friendships the same way they can today. Everything was so structured and chaperoned so men and women women became more intensively involved, in the context of the time is more important than to label them from our own perspective. The question has been answered by thomas lee. Guest cant believe i forgot already. Host the Chicago River<\/a> was filled in 1860 and torn down in 1867. Guest that is what is great about this show. Caller what was the deal with general mcclellan, from Supreme Union<\/a> commander he certainly seemed very helpful to the south and ran against lincoln in 1864. Was he a highlevel senator. How concern, with the old colonial powers, french troops in mexico. Was he concerned they would carve up the north American Continent<\/a> as they had . Guest he was very concerned. England and france viewed the civil war as an opportunity for them not only to come back, they wanted the whole democratic experiment to fail. They are protecting monarchy and a different form of government. If people could not govern themselves it was good for them and especially the aristocrats, wealthy classes in england and france who in many ways supported the south in their struggle against the north so it was important seward as secretary of state did yeoman work in keeping the english people out of the war and keeping the french out of the war. The working men were in favor of the northern cause because they were in favor of emancipation but trying to maneuver into a situation where if the north were to lose they could pick off mexico and things to be done. As far as your first question goes what was the first question . Are you still there . Guest he is not. I get to it when i come back to it. Host ray anderson of West Virginia<\/a> says if lincoln were involved in Politics Today<\/a> which party would he align himself with . The interesting thing, he was very loyal, took a long time to leave the wing before he became a republican so he would stay with the Republican Party<\/a> and try to move it in a progressive fashion so that it did care about people without educational opportunity, people who are poor and he wants the government is there to do with individuals what they could not do so well for themselves. I think he would have different philosophy from the conservative elements of the Republican Party<\/a> but he would make the Republican Party<\/a> what he believes in rather than switch to another party. General mcclellan. Lincoln in 1864. Back to the callers argument about what you said at her i remember the question. I dont think it is fair to say mcclellan was a senator. What happened is he was a conservative democrat, did not believe emancipation should be a goal in the war and as a result he was very upset when lincoln introduced the emancipation proclamation. He thought it would give more resistance to the south was the trouble with him as a general which lincoln should have seen earlier than he did was he was great at organizing the troops, we had no army to begin with, we needed to do that but he created a great engine as lincoln later said but it was a stationary engine. He somehow didnt have whatever it took to take his troops into war. Some argued he loved them so much he didnt want to take them into battle, some argued he really was going slow because he wanted to come to a end without hurting the south but whatever it was he turned out not to be a very good general and lincoln took too long to ask for his resignation. In 1864, summer of 1864 it looked like the fortunes of war were at a low end even though gettysburg had been won in vicksburg had been won to the north, lincoln was not sure he would win another election. Morale was down in the war was going on too long, many lives have been lost, people were blaming him that the menstruation proclamation prolong the war so they thought mcclellan would be the perfect person to run against them because he had the support in the north of conservative democrats, people who thought the war was going on too long and the compromise peace would be a good thing to happen and he thought because he was so popular with the army that he would have the support of this huge element of the army. It turned out lincoln won the army vote which made it so much to him and mcclellan handled the election terribly. s letters to people and in the papers were trouble and he went off, made money but the trouble with mcclellan was he wrote letters to his wife in the civil war and the letters are so damaging that now theyve been published that hurt his whole reputation forever for history. He talks with first guiding that god placed married, he could be a dictator if he wanted to answer such terrible things about lincoln and stanton, texas want ability for any of his failures. He blamed it out right on stanton to the extent that stanton wrote a telegram to the white house saying if i lose this battle it will be your fault, you have sacrifice the army. The telegraph operator was so stunned at this and subordination of that last line that he cut it out so lincoln and stanton didnt see that and it became knowledgeable later. Lincoln after stanton was getting pounded by the newspapers after mcclellan was going every single reason he lost with stanton refused to reinforce and when he had he couldve said to him, lincoln gave a huge speech to a union rally bigger than any rally in which he took responsibility, that is not stanton. I would have sent them if they could, you want to blame stanton, stuff the critic of stanton, just the opposite of lincoln who acknowledged there is immediately, showed responsibility for the failures of his subordinates, mcclellan was just the opposite, always blaming somebody else for what he did. We spent 3 hours with a single starter this month Doris Kearns Goodwin<\/a> is our guest, 45 minutes, more of your phone calls, california. Cspan29 calling from paris, california. To have such a wonderful, compassionate history, anytime in the future do you plan to write about civil rights . I dont know what i will do next, that is a good idea. One of the difficulties is you get so caught up in what you are doing that it is hard to imagine leaving lincoln right now but in some ways Civil Rights Movement<\/a> would be the logical outgrowth of the fact that after lincoln left the presidency it still needed that Civil Rights Movement<\/a> in the 1950 numplaps60s to complete the emancipation and the true beginning of the breakdown of segregation and equality for black americans so it might be a nice sequel. The hard thing, even when i have to move from roosevelt to lincoln and move my roosevelt books out of my study i felt i was betraying roosevelt. It will be a while before i can leave Mister Lincoln<\/a> behind but at some point soon i will come up with Something Else<\/a> because i cant wait to be in the thick of another book again. Next call, go ahead. Are you with us . Good afternoon. I wanted to ask you to please opine on the modernday phenom that hightech computerization has eliminated the need of Big Government<\/a> socialism the democrats offer and what could they possibly bring to the table to assist our Free Enterprise<\/a> capitalist system. What democrats stand for is the idea that government can aid people in areas where they cannot add themselves which is what lincoln stood for so many years ago and no question in my mind still that Social Security<\/a> is a fundamental right the democrats are arguing to protect, that there is a need obviously for Free Enterprise<\/a>, our system is built on that but in some cases that Free Enterprise<\/a> doesnt become free and youve got corporations that need to have some stimulus from the government to make sure they are not undoing that freedom we stand for and no question issues of healthcare and job creation and issues of poverty that i think democrats traditionally have talked about. Whether or not they have been able to reach the country today to argue those are the values we should be fighting for is the question because they havent won in recent elections but the values that underwrote the Democratic Party<\/a> in my mind in a 60s when the Civil Rights Movement<\/a> was there, education came through, to help people who have not had the chance to help themselves when Social Security<\/a> was updated and civil rights laws were passed and segregation and Voting Rights<\/a> to black americans, these are things the country is proud of and this was initiated even though republicans came by their side and some people look on it as a sad period because it ended so badly, the antivietnam war movement and the death of Bobby Kennedy<\/a> and Martin Luther<\/a> king and in some ways it was a time when people cared about public issues and were willing to fight for those public issues and i look back on that era with some nostalgia. Maybe because i was younger than. How did printing johnson feel about Martin Luther<\/a> king. There was a sense of tension because Martin Luther<\/a> king, any president feels the leader operating outside the system of the government and is pressing the government to move more quickly than johnson might have thought he was able to move but the amazing thing that happened is after the civil rights forecast ending supreme mexican was instrumental in the movement that created that act johnson got such enormous pleasure from knowing he had done something that would stand the test of time that he became a real civil rights advocate and in 1965 after the first act passed his advisers said dont cover Voting Rights<\/a>, they need more of that civil rights act, this is my moment, it may not continue, the state of the Union Address<\/a> and 65 he called for a Voting Rights<\/a> act and Martin Luther<\/a> king made that come alive in his march to alabama in montgomery and when he was beaten up by the southern people down there it made the country feel a certain sense of wanting to do something to make this right and that is when johnson called for a joint session of congress and get the great speech called the we shall overcome speech. Im proud to say my husband worked on that speech and i was a graduate student at the time and i remember being with my friends feeling was one of the great moment in history to hear Lyndon Johnson<\/a> because what happened then was he talked about civil rights is not a blackandwhite problem, history and fate have come together in one place in selma, alabama as they did in lexington and concorde and appomattox and then took up the anthem of the Civil Rights Movement<\/a> and said we shall overcome. For all of us involved in this of a Rights Movement<\/a> that was the anthem so to hear the president no longer fighting against the Civil Rights Movement<\/a> but actually embracing it at that moment it was a moment, most emotional moment of my young life. How did you meet your husband . He came to harvard when i was teaching her to finish a book and had an office near mine and he claims he thought he knew about me because i worked for Lyndon Johnson<\/a> and asked me out to dinner and the first night i met him i knew this was the man i wanted to marry but it took a while. From oakland, california. I grew up in brooklyn at st. Pauls catholic church, the nuns loved the brooklyn dodgers, we all have to pray for them to win the series. Thats great two questions. In 2001 president bush signed an executive order permanently sealing off from the public all president ial records going back to reagan. Now any request for documents relating to past presidencies have to be approved by the white house. Will this affect the work of historians like yourself and president lincoln was a brilliant president. I believe he wrote most of his own speeches but did lincoln depends on any one advisor to the degree that president bush depends on karl rove . As far as your first question goes, in recent years, the last 40 years theres been a tendency to hold back president ial papers more and more, seems to be escalating with each year. Even working on johnsons memoirs a lot of what was going to be used in the memoir was like going to be open later for the people in 2 years went by. Even the tapes have taken a while to be transcribed and put to public use so its true that historians are going to be prescribed and what they do by this tendency of president s to be closing off records which eventually they will be opened up but by this time the immediacy of the events and understanding of the context might be listened and make it harder for historians to get that full job and i think in some ways, even more problematic for people will be that idea the letters as we talked about earlier are not being written, diaries are not being kept because people are afraid they might be subpoenaed at a certain point so you wont have that intimate record. Sam and lori smith email did you have any ongoing interactions with the first lady, Lady Bird Johnson<\/a> and what relationship did you have been putting the book together . I got to know her in his last years when i was going to the ranch and stayed at the ranch and i must say shes one of the classiest women she has ever known, love that man, protected him, went about her own work, working on her own memoir at that time and she welcomed my coming down or to be with him because its almost like i could be a camp counselor, Lyndon Johnson<\/a> needed somebody at his side in every moment so when i was there would like to believe she was free to go shopping or do something because i could keep him company but without the stability she provided i dont think he ever would have become what he did. She was so different from him, so empathetic, so compassionate, he would yell at somebody, would never do that, and he loved her, no question about that . Did you ever get the johnson treatment . Not really maybe because i saw him do that to other people and it is not easily able to forget. You can never yell at somebody in public in a good way and humiliate them. What i used to hear he did in the white house, he would feel bad the next day and maybe a car will arrive at a persons home, to make up, didnt mean to yell at you but he would tease me, call me a lefty and a pink and think i was part of that Younger Generation<\/a> the didnt understand why the war in vietnam had to be fought but never meanspirited. Had i known him at the height of his power he never would have talked to me as openly as he did spend time with me, wouldnt have had time but in those last years he was lonely. Host leavitttown rhode island. Caller i like to ask a question and respond to your answer. In the 30s, the liberty league, the leaders of the capitalist world, finance overthrow of the Roosevelt Administration<\/a> to make smedley a dictator, finance the Hitler Office<\/a> in germany to defeat the communists and the communists saved capitalism with the fascists they created. I would like your point of view on this and respond to your answer. Guest you are right that things were so confused, we look on communism as a negative force in the world but no question that in world war ii without russia, without the communist ability to join in the allied cause hitler tried to defeat russia and russia came back on our side, things would have been different and fascism would have had a greater chance of existing and there were fights between communists and fascists, there were fights here between communists and fascists and the world was in much better off when fascism was destroyed into fully communism had stuck to the earlier ideology which had to do with waiver, just as lincoln talked about much earlier and not gotten into the loss of Civil Liberties<\/a> and the topheavy government it did there was something ideologically they were right about that it went awry. Host a quick followup . What i would like to say is the fact that the russians saved us from the fascists we create, we created hitler and mussolini, and the controlling interest of general motors, building tanks and armored cars in nazi germany. San diego, your next. Caller thank you, cspan for putting this on, appreciate this opportunity. I have spent more time trying to get through to you guys than trying to get through to a rock concert in my youth. Thank you for taking my call. Ive been working on a documentary about an event that occurred in Los Angeles June<\/a> 20 third 1967, president johnson had come to los angeles to kick off his democratic fundraiser for the reelection campaign. Ive been working on this for about four years so you are an inspiration to me in the way you stick with a story for so long. My question to you is do you have any event, this was known as the Century Plaza<\/a> protest also known as bloodied friday. I happens to be a 10 month old baby this event and there was a picture published of me in the free press of what seemed to be Police Batons<\/a> coming over my baby carriage and my mom sending them off. I know through some white house documents that one of these were sent to the white house because the president s statement was he didnt see the civil unrest occurring outside the Century Plaza<\/a> hotel so i am wondering if you have any personal knowledge of this event and what is your opinion on the effect of the Antiwar Movement<\/a> demonstrations, johnsons decision not to run again in march of 68. Guest i dont know about your event but you are right goes antiwar demonstrations were increasing and increasing in 6768 and johnson felt unable to go around the country in any freeway and was limited to a certain extent to go into army camps when he gave speeches and not being able to be as free as he was before that and im sure that contributed to his feeling that if he were going to go around the country campaigning it would be a difficult, so hard for him to see both sides, how many kids did you kill today, the movement had grown in intensity and he knew he had lost a large part of the American People<\/a> and that made him withdraw from the race. It is always said when Walter Cronkite<\/a> turned against the war saying it was a stalemate after the test offensive johnson said he had lost middle america. Even before that and in 68 he had seen the massive demonstrations and must have known it would impede any chance to go around the country. His energy was phenomenal. He would stay up until 3 am and even if there were 3 people left in a crowd and couldnt get that energy back from the crowd because he wasnt able to go around the country again so the Antiwar Movement<\/a> and its strength not only because it produced mccarthy in the primary and Bobby Kennedy<\/a> and he didnt want to run against Bobby Kennedy<\/a>, the fact is demonstrations were taking place and bring him had something to do with his withdrawal from the race so it was important. Franks is a recent segment left the distinct imprisonment and johnson named rand clark as attorney general specifically to get his father tom clark to resign his position on the Supreme Court<\/a> to nominate Thurgood Marshall<\/a> . An amazing take. When i heard that i hadnt known that before but what you hear is Lyndon Johnson<\/a> talking to tom clark and randy clark and he wants to put randy clark on the court but most important to get tom clark in to the cabinet but most important he wants to get tom clark off to appoint the first black american so he is saying to tom i would like to get you into this job but quite cant happen if your father is on the court because it will be a conflict of interest and he says im not sure it is a conflict of interest because i think it is, next thing, he talks to his father tom clark, tom clark decides hes going to retire from the accordion though he wasnt that old to give his son a chance so in one of those weightlifting is playing 3 people for gold, a good goal. You were quoted as saying in reference to lbj some people who going to public wife if they go in needing the applause of thousands they are never going to work out successful in the end because they dont know who they are apart from the crowd. It did seem johnson had this enormous pool inside that needed to be filled by the applause of the people into the system like ours where everybody goes up and down in reputation, even the best president s go through tough. S if that is what is holding you up you better not sustain you. Thats why there was a difference between lincoln in my argument who want to the office and the power for accomplishing something that would stand the test of time, the people turned against him or he failed in a certain sense he could be driven by that larger goal. Johnson did have larger goals in mind and became a stronger person but until that time seemed to be the type of person who just needed to have that support from the people to fill up some need inside that wasnt quite there. Host springfield, illinois. Caller thank you for taking my call. How were you able in writing a book on lincoln to stay on topic when there were so many other interests, you didnt find yourself going off on tangents . Are you going to be doing a book signing . I will be coming on for very tough to speak at the library. Cant wait to see the new library at the groundbreaking, i thought in this early stage but i cant wait to see the finished product, sounds amazing. It is true you do get off on tangents and get involved with everybodys life and have to make sure you dont let the narrative be destroyed as a result. Seward had a daughter named fanny and when she was 16 she wanted to be a writer so she started to keep a diary in her diary is wonderful. A young girls diary, she keeps it until shes 21 years old and then dies, she didnt think she wanted to get married because she thought you couldnt have a career as a writer and be merry. Oliver life was poured into this diary. I became so interested in this little girl fanny, so interested in her mother frances. They are important to my story but not as important as i was going to make them. I would go have a chapter on one or the other and then you have to decide to cut back. Similarly kate chases daughter was such an interesting sad creature who was the most beautiful woman of her age, everybody courted her and she married this wealthy man in order to help her fathers positioned right above between her and her husband who was an alcoholic who abused her. I found those letters as well and all that was part of my book, one paragraph in the epilogue but you keep involving yourself in all the people and the key as a narrative historian is to decide when to introduce them and when to cut them out and say some other day i might write about this people or but if i put my full story here they it will not be 700 pages the 12,000 and no one will pick it up. There is a photograph of the bus even your book, what secretary stinson said when lincoln passed away, now he belongs to the angels, 24 hours it is reported, now he belongs to the ages. There are 4 or 5 different accounts, some say he now belongs to the angels, he now belongs to the ages, one of those moments, the picture you are showing where a lot of people were there that night after he was assassinated, carried into the peterson house, his friends came, secretary came but at the end more people claimed they were there than one of those, everybody wants to be a big event and the room cannot possibly have kept all those people together so imagine whatever was said that night gets reported in the newspaper and goes down to the ages and no one is clear but the words we remember word now he belongs to the ages which is wonderful tribute to be rendered after he died. Next caller, go ahead. My name is ruth from tucson and my first introduction to you was for the baseball series which made me a great fan of view. Anywhere was wondering is your impression of that project . Burns is such a passionate enthusiastic character, he makes all the things you do, live. He came to see me because he knew he was going to be making the brooklyn dodgers and the red sox big part of his series on baseball given the underdogs they were at the passionate drama around the manteno i had been fans of the brooklyn dodgers and then the red sox but i had no idea, we talked for an hour or an hour and a half and you think youre going to be on for half a minute or two minute so i told him everything about old boyfriends i liked, i gave up because they didnt like baseball. And all these things were put on the air but it was a wonderful experience. The interesting thing is my book on roosevelt came out the same year his documentary on baseball came out so everywhere i went to talk about roosevelt people would ask about baseball because they had seen his documentary and it was that response of people. A lot of women saying we had a similar relationship with our father, we love baseball as well, he taught me, people talk about their memories of growing up in the 50s and his mother down to the one id grown up in and that prompted me. I never would have written a memoir, the idea seems ridiculous because i wasnt a big public speaker but i decided to write about growing up in love with the dodgers because of ken burnss documentary and gave me so much more pleasure than i could have imagined to recreate that time in my life and anyone grew up in the 50s in a suburban, something universal about our lives, jumping rope, being on the street, having a bicycle with a kickstand, where you didnt have to have a lot on it, letting baseball as we did, the mccarthy era and what that meant, the early civil rights era, the memoir struck a chord not because it was my story but it turned out to be a lot of other stories and i owe it to ken burns. Who is the abbott in everetts field . Charlie abbott have gone down in history forever even though its field is finally gone but way back in 1912. It was one of the smallest and most intimate and wonderful parks that ever existed. Host new york city, your next. Caller question for mrs. Goodwin. The contrast between lincoln who had very little formal education, no wealth or privilege in his background, who wrote incredibly beautiful speeches and what is many of which have been quoted this afternoon and the current chief executive who comes from a background of wealth and privilege, private school, Yale University<\/a> who seems unable even to write a simple sentence, this seems to be a trend in Politics Today<\/a>. We dont have great speakers or writers, curious about that. One of the things that struck me about lincolns Early Education<\/a> compared to educational systems today if he didnt have a whisk of education but was so deep in the things that he read. For example is a young child he had discovered the countryside for books and everything he could lay his hands on he would read but they were the best literature in our history. He read shakespeare, aesops fables, the king james bible, poetry so these got into his soul and his heart and allowed him, he had extraordinary talent to become that great great writer and in some ways literature allowed him to transcend his surroundings because Emily Dickinson<\/a> once said there is no frigate like a book to take it away and through literature he went with shakespeare asking to england though he never went there his life, in portugal with lord byron and the love of books was so much part of him that because it was selftaught it got into his soul. Compare that to the Education Today<\/a> that is so broad, students take so many courses, fragment one course or another and maybe they dont get a feeling for the literature of a few great things as they might, certainly as lincoln did in the old days plus the fact that he wrote and edited and wrote, part of the muscle in him from the time he was a child developed more and more and what happens today is so many speechwriters on the white house staff, they are not doing it themselves in the same way so they are not Getting Better<\/a> because it isnt part of their importance but it is important because communicating to the country and being able to give them a sense of where you are taking them still remains a central tool for a president , television cant take away from the words, the words have to be there, words to persuade. Roosevelt when he went on his fireside chats i our thought he was on the radio every week like our current president , he only gave 33 fireside chats in his 12 years as president , two or three year because he works on them so hard it would take a whole week of his presidency to make sure the words were right so thats what we need in our modernday not just for our president s but our young people. Good morning, very 20 second 1958 on a saturday morning he received a phone call early in the day, your father says my powell is gone. What happened . My mother had this rheumatic fever and a weakened heart, several heart attacks when i was growing up but somehow i still never thought she would die, she died in his sleep that night and when you are a child, youre 15 years old the hardest thing is that you cant imagine right away that it has happened. My sister was there and a wonderful Middle Sister<\/a> who came and stayed home with our family, she was a nurse in new york at the time so that she could help take care of me and in many ways became a second mother to me and in a certain sense when youre that is you dont appreciate the losses fully as i did later, when i had my own children and my children would never know my mother, i could never share my mother with them, they would never know their grandmother as they never knew my father, the older you get the more you realize how devastating it is to lose a parent at that age. You are so wrapped up in a time in your life that somehow you think you force yourself to have life go on and you are back in high school, back with your friends and later more i realized what a vacuum and created my life. On a lighter note you talked about how your sister was embarrassed when your mom was pregnant with you. I was the late child of the family so they must have thought what are these old parents doing having his other could come along. Thank god my mother did get pregnant. I was glad for that needless to say. In utah. My first question, why do you believe there was such animosity between Lyndon Johnson<\/a> and Robert Kennedy<\/a> . Was it political differences or personalities, personal problems . The second have you considered have you considered writing a book about president kennedy . The animosity between Lyndon Johnson<\/a> and Bobby Kennedy<\/a> was partly personal and partly political. Somehow those 2 men just hated each other and you just come up against somebody and you cant stand them and it was exacerbated by the fact that when johnson was made Vice President<\/a> he had been such a powerful majority leader and he felt as Vice President<\/a> he was left out of the loop on all sorts of decisions kennedy was making and somehow didnt want to blame kennedy, he liked kennedy, the 2 of them, jack kennedy and Lyndon Johnson<\/a> got along fairly well. Can be liked to listen to johnson app stores, newer character and wrote johnson was but when he wasnt getting invited to meetings or decisions he always blame bobby as he thought bobby was keeping them out of meetings and when Lyndon Johnson<\/a> becomes president bobby felt johnson was upstaging his brother, he was such an important president , civil rights have been under his watch and his brothers echo in history was listened and bobby runs for the senate and potentially the presidency against Lyndon Johnson<\/a> only makes it worse so there was no love lost between those two people. It is true my book ended with president kennedy becoming president it didnt go further but so many wonderful books written about the presidency that i have to figure out a different way into if i were going to follow up on that. Host you are next. Caller three quick questions which can you name a current senator that resembles a true democrat from the 60s and was president lincoln, is it true he was the father of the modern day income tax and it was for defense a country and not social programs and the last one is do you think lincoln and Martin Luther<\/a> king would be proud of black americans of the Civil Rights Movement<\/a>, because it seems to me they are squandering, still fighting for civil rights and taking opportunities that had been given to them. The hardest thing for civil rights leaders is after the fight for segregation was won and after the Voting Rights<\/a> act was put into place to argue about education and poverty is so much more scattered, harder to have a focus and that is why we havent seen the same kind of dramatic leadership we had in the 1960s but i suspect we havent seen great leaders anywhere i think for the last few years so its not fair to blame black leaders any more than leaders in general. When i think about looking about who embodies the values of democrats and republicans the most important thing lincoln had was extraordinary empathy that was able to see both sides of an issue. He gave a great speech when he was a young man to a Temperance Society<\/a> which he argues you will never change people who are drinking or the drams who sell the drink by denouncing them. By now, breeds anathema. He called for trying to understand, the best way to a persons hardest to understand that and not simply shun them and they will retreat within themselves. What we need somebody who is not just an activist democrat or activist republican but somebody who can understand where both sides are coming from and the problem is our system makes that so much less likely, the primaries reward people with the most extreme positions on either side, television loves point Counter Point<\/a> who can say what they feel any other person on the other side, people like john mccain, one of the people whos trying to understand where the democrats are even though he is a republican, we need democrats to understand where the republicans are, we will never get anywhere with this kind of the annunciation breeds enunciation which is where our politics is at today, lincoln would be sad about that i think. Salem, oregon, next. I had the pleasure of listening to you speak at will and university. A wonderful experience. My question is about mary lincoln and how she was treated by those colleagues and supporters of lincoln after he was assassinated and if you came across any information about an abram wegman and ancestor of mine who reportedly was a close friend of mary lincoln. There is an Abram Wakeman<\/a> and he was a new yorker and he supported mary a little bit after lincoln died, always worried about when she had enough money to exist and she wrote lots of friendly letters for Abram Wakeman<\/a>, you should look for them in the mary collection. You will find her in sister an interesting character. The sad thing from areas even when she became first lady there was no place for her to find a footing. She was married to abraham lincoln, the northerners distrusted her because she had four confederate stepbrothers in the confederate army, westerners and easterners thought she was crude because she was a westerner so she tried to redecorate the white house and make it a symbol of the union is the one contribution to his presidency but at a time when soldiers didnt have enough money for blankets a lincoln later said it seems the wrong thing to be spending money on the love that identity put it in the white house and her reputation during his presidency was really hurt a lot and when he died there wasnt the same wellspring of support to help her. It seems unfair and away. They gave grant a house, providing pensions for other people and they didnt for a long time, finally had to fight to give mary any kind of a pension and it was in part because she had such bad press during his presidency and then she felt they owed it to her afterwords and also the last year she was worried about money and unwisely spending it, she may have had manicdepressive in this one because he bought 300 pair of gloves for her son. He needed to protect her, put her in an asylum, she was able to get out proving she was not mentally old but then went to live in springfield and had a very sad ending to what should have been a much happier life. There was a ball that took place shortly before willy passed away. Why did the lincolns host this ball . Mary was trying to figure out a new social function that would be dramatic for the white house. Most were open to anybody so they would be these backwards when coming in with a diplomatic sidebyside so she decided to have an invitationonly ball and the invitation became the hottest card in washington, a very exciting event, she planned it for weeks and weeks before the event, her sons opened them, got very sick, she thought she should cancel the ball but lincoln decided the doctors said they were recovering, it would be all right, the ball could still be held so they held it but during that night of the ball, which should have been her triumph, everybody said it was a Great Innovation<\/a> she kept going upstairs to see willie and tad and when willie died not long thereafter she felt in a certain sense that was her pride and her desire to do these things in the white house that offended god and ended up with willy dying so that ball was a terrible memory even though it was her moment of trivalent first lady. Caller very glad to hear you, you are a wonderful speaker and i would like to ask two questions which have you ever thought of recording the interesting stories of history because you are so adept at describing them in the second question i have is do you think the war in iraq is a skirmish in a larger conflict between islam and christianity which might end in war . As far as recording the stories theres a wonderful thing i think about oral history whether i am part of it or not, it is a great thing to allow peoples voices and they now are doing it more and more with politicians and letting people come even during world war ii, women who went to work in the factories, the stories they told, you could never get them later and they are in their own voices and those oral histories get transcribed. The general idea of transcribing stories is critical for history. I remember hearing factory workers talk about what women would say when their husbands came home after world war ii and suddenly thought their wives were working independently in factories writing a check, you have never written a check before, somehow they felt they had become folks trees and their husbands couldnt deal with the funny story so many stories that make up this best part of history, i am in favor of all history whether i do it or not and no question but as far as your second idea goes the we are in something large between not just our country but between democracy and islam and weve got to hope it doesnt become a larger war because theres nothing more frightening when a war becomes a religious war and some overtones of that where there is no sense of compromise possible we could be in for a very long and bad times so weve got to hope it doesnt escalate into Something Like<\/a> that. There are elements of it already but hopefully they are going down. Question from the first book, a viewer on the booktv bus recently from forest in illinois. I live in forreston, illinois. Im a huge fan of brian lamb and cspan and booktv in particular. Thanks for the opportunity to ask a question of doris keanrs goodwin. The research youve done on the many president s you have examined whether you have been able to identify in their presidencies, particularly interested in Lyndon Johnson<\/a>. I really enjoyed your book Lyndon Johnson<\/a> an american dream. Guest it is not confined to Lyndon Johnson<\/a>. When things get tough for president what seems to happen is they hunkered down with the people who support their point of view. When the vietnam war became difficult and people stopped supporting it rather than reaching out to opponents and reaching out to congressman and senators who might have given him a different perspective on what to do in the war there was a natural tendency to surround himself with people who agreed with him, that means to pull yourself deeper into a hole, it has relevance for us today. When things are difficult, to reach out to people who disagree with you, debate with you and argue with you so you can see other points of view and get out of the hole. What surprised you the most with a team of rivals . The most superficial things surprised me that isnt superficial, having seen the sad eyes lincoln head, knowing about his melancholy temperament i had no idea how dynamic a personality he had. Lincoln scholars understood that but for me he ended up being much more vital, more alive. He even seemed sexy and one of the pictures. There is a great picture of him before the terrible beard he grew to plea the little girl and theres a sense in which he has a rugged face on page 200, disheveled hair. Maybe i like disheveled hair, my husband has disheveled hair and big hair like lincolns but thats not the image we have when we think of him in the monument. As i read further and realized he was the one who could start a Cabinet Meeting<\/a> with a funny story, could relax people by telling a joke and his jokes were so funny, they had something to do with what was going on, there was part of him i hadnt suspected. I know i respected him and admired him but didnt realize i would feel such affection for him. Host Doris Kearns Goodwin<\/a>s latest, team of rivals, her books are available, booktv. Org, thank you. What great fun, thank you. You are watching booktv on cspan2 with the latest nonfiction books and authors. Cspan2 created by americas Cable Television<\/a> company is a Public Service<\/a> and brought to you today by your television provider. Booktv on cspan2 has top nonfiction books and authors every weekend. Tonight at 8 00 eastern binge watch programs with the late author Christopher Hitchens<\/a> his books include no one left to live 2, the missionary position in the trial of henry kissinger. On sunday at 9 00 pm eastern on after words Yale University<\/a> professor edward ball on his book life of a klansman which looks at White Supremacy<\/a> through the lens of his greatgreatgrandfather, a member of the ku klux klan in louisiana. He is interviewed by the author and georgetown University Professor<\/a> of law, social rights and civil justice. 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