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Legislative affair here in washington. We really appreciate you taking time out of your busy schedule to listen to this great lineup of speakers. Weve convened this group today to talk about a specter of issues critically important to do 5g and broadband deployment. We will move to an expert panel. Its my pleasure to introduce matthew polka of aca knex steven berry of welcome everybody my name is matthew polka president and ceo of aca knex americas communication association, formerly known as the american cable association. We are very pleased to be here today along with our partner charter at to cca talk about this important issue that certainly affects all of our members except there are members of in aca knex every state providing phone, Broadband Services in remote areas, hard to reach areas. Doing a great job on delivering that broadband promise. Today we are also very happy to talk about our 5g plus plan because we think that the proceeding thats on the way the is very important for the future not only for wireless to indication, if done ride with the work that the fcc can do it can release an enormous amount of spectrum of 5g service and next generation of wireless and provide to certainly rural areas. We support the fcc seizing this opportunity and thats why aca knex as john the charter with cca charter and cca current users of also prospective to develop and present what we consider a new pad with unprecedented benefits to the american public. Let me cover what this plan and our 5g plus plan as fundamental goals thats the will to square this county. Moment nearly double any other proposal using transparent spectrum overseen by the fcc further. It will make currency bent users and provide in incentives to forego their existing rights. We think that spectrum under this plan will be available for 5g and other services in at least 18 months. Many rural areas within 36 months. We are talking about a lot of spectrum, talking about getting it out to the public to use quickly. Second, our plan would use auction proceeds to help support the deployment of a nationwide fiber based video Programming Network to all multi channel video programming distributors throughout the country. And based on analysis you will hear from the firm over five years timeframe we can readily were allowed 120,000 route miles of fiber required for this network. Moreover, all of this fiber will not just be used to deliver high quality video programming, but it can be it will become a fundamental part of our infrastructure for Rural America supporting the divide the deployment of 5g, enabling significant smart grid, smart need touring applications focusing on tel the health, Public Safety service and many other things. One final but very important benefit of this planet is we believe this plan will create the directly 100,000 jobs and indirectly as many as another as another 100,000 jobs. So this plan when you look at it and when you study it, it is truly a win win for all stakeholders, certainly in this proceeding and for the american public. It provides the spectrum that we need the next Generation Wireless Services it provides a seamless transition mechanism working with the fcc through a process transparent process led by the fcc that will make both earth station satellite operators to process will sensitize users to actually move will result in billions of dollars flowing to the u. S. Treasury while advancing connectivity in Rural America. Winwin. Its my pleasure now to turn the podium over to my friends from c c i steven berry thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you i. Good afternoon i thank everyone for joining. I noticed its standing room only. We do have some refreshments over there. My name is steve berry, president ceo of fcc a we are the nations leader members range from small, medium, and large carriers, some serving less than 5000 customers to regional a nationwide cares to serve millions of customers. As well as the vendors that support that ecosystem in the wireless world. Everyone will play a role in building out 5g, we know that. But these are the carriers, the operators that will pay for spectrum license and put spectrum to use the serve consumers, particularly in urban rural areas of the united states. So along with him aca knex we really appreciate your attendance today to discuss the very important issue of c van spectrum. Matt discussed content delivery too proven Fiber Technologies that would help the point and and markets. This also follow the fees in the fcc to make more spectrum available and keep the consumers insatiable appetite for the man and Wireless Services and empower the 5g world spectrum its owned by taxpayers unlicensed by the government. For wireless consumers, 5g services will revolutionize Consumer Experience in every aspect of their lives. It will power the latest health, telling health improvement, precision agriculture distance learning, Autonomous Vehicles augmented in virtual reality. Public safety a high priority and other services that really are not imagined yet. While theres a lot of hype around the 5g Wireless Services, these new technologies and services will not be possible without additional allocations of. Spectrum wireless fibers alike to call it, there are ways to actually power all the Wireless Services. Between three point 74. 2 gigahertz, thats about 500 megahertz of critical myth that critical turning point in future of connectivity in america. All carries must have low, mid, and high spectrum. While low ben obligates great distances and high band gives it a potential for blistering speed, in mitt van spectrum has unique blend of distance and capacity. It will be particularly important in the 0. 5 g services and we will. America at the 500 megahertz, the size of the band is one of the last opportunity for carries to obtain as much mid band spectrum. With these large blocks sizes, Faster Services can be acquired. Satellite companies, the incumbents of the current users of the ban, have self identified that they are not maximizing the potential for the use of the band. They are willing to vacate some parts of it for a consumer use. But i say that its a lost opportunity, plain and simple if we do not repurpose the maximum amount of possible a spectrum possible with our pro competition plant, them we will auction five or six licensees in every market. This will feel competition and innovation. That can only be done if we clear 300 megahertz or more spectrum of this critical mid ban spectrum. We can only imagine what the possibilities are. Our pro competition plan will inject a significant amount of fiber connectivity in Rural America also, as matt mentioned, which will also help the back all on ig but will help bring Broadband Services to real america. As matt pointed out, this will ignite the investment in a fundamental in fact infrastructure in. America our chairman has dated the fcc plans to make a decision the decision regarding the sea ban. We encourage him to do it we encourage congress to use its Oversight Authority to ensure that this proper guidance, oversight and transparency required to ensure we maximize the potential for sea band. Preserving Public Airways for public good this is a serious challenge and he is a serious solution sissi a, aca connects antarctica medicaid in official timely manner allocates through a transparent option the guidance and expertise that only the fcc can bring. The revenues will benefit american taxpayers. You will hear a lot today about a well balanced plan to address a serious challenge and a great opportunity. So thank you one and all for joining. Again if you need something to drink, was to have a few refreshments over there. I will turn it back over to vanessa that will keep us on schedule. Thank you. Thanks. Steve thanks. Matt now i want to turn it to four cardigan consulting. It . They do so much my name is nikos andrikogiannopoulos i am with partition. When was one of the oldest Strategy Consulting firms in the telecoms space. With over 30 years of experience advising clients in the telecoms sector. What i like to do is walk you through a little bit of mechanics of the plan. As steve explained before it cband is very desirable part of the spectrum its i am not the its right in between and if you think about it, its between the wifi frequency of 2. 4, to win five that we all use. Its 3. 7, 4. 2. Its right in between. Its kind of an ideal part of the spectrum for wireless communications. Limit let me talk about how this is being used today. As we said this is 400 megahertz of spectrum. The big part of it is completely unused. So 180 megahertz out of that is not being used. Under previous plans you might have seen, this is the bar that is being proposed to kind of be reformed. From the remaining spectrum that is being used the largest part, 170 megahertz of that, is being used for cable programming. Thats another, if you add up the unused on the used and get 350, our plan is going after 370. What remains in that 130 megahertz, think about radio channels, religious programming and a number of other applications that are mobile. Under our plan, which we filed in early july by transitioning off the programming to fiber, we released far more spectrum. At the same time one of the great benefits here is a lot of rural fiber development. I will explain a bit more about how how the plan will happen in subsequent slides. With auction will be able to more than double, the proceeds or greater. That allows the proceeds to go to u. S. Treasury. From this process now a lot to you through the mechanics the most important part is how we transition cable programming off satellites. What you see in the diagram on the lefthand side you see is studio beginning to a satellite and Cable Provider receiving the content and then distributing it over to u. S. Households. Thats extremely valuable in rural areas as you might expect, urban areas some of the fiber already exists. What we are proposing is moving both the content the fiber so we will have to connect at the table the from then on the can keep distributing it as before. Thats one part of a plan the second part of the plan. So with the 100 remaining 130 megahertz that band. With that band we will be using this is exactly similar to what previous plans have provoked. Its a process that the satellite operators go through from time to time we are talking about we parking all kinds of lower frequencies into the upper 130 megahertz so that 370 can be free. Summarizing some of the other parts of the plan, there is far more spectrum, at least 370 megahertz. This is going to be an fcc lead auction with reimbursements, castro embarrassments and incentives. Cost indoor cost reimbursement will cover the cost of transition to fiber, and obviously all the plays for the transition to happen in a timely matter. As i mentioned before up to 18 months for urban areas. These are the areas that already had five today. Think about dense metro areas where providers are already connected to the data centers. After three years for most areas where there is, there will be modest Fiber Deployment or procurement of existing fiber. Up to five years for hard to reach rural areas with a significant construction of five of them might be required for a redundancy reason. Let me make a note here that when we talk about Fiber Deployment as you can imagine, all Cable Systems that exist all Cable Systems that exist in the usa mineral have some amount of fiber to date or at least have access to some fibers of the gunfight internet the can of internet their subscribers so that our plan is proposing not to adding more capacity and adding more reliability through ridden links of delivery can happen in a very reliable manner them. Lastly, in terms of benefits, we are proposing over 400 400,000 miles of fiber, out of which 120,000 miles with the constructed. Up to 20 up to 29 billion that will end up with the u. S. Treasury and obviously that kind of investment in fiber there will be lots and lots of jobs that will be created. 200,000 jobs direct and indirect estimation we have made. As i mentioned before, huge amount of spectrum with the 370, using some benchmarks in the industry. We modestly estimate 30 to 37 billion dollars from the auctions. Probably a lot more than that. Cost reimbursements it will be tonight 11 billion to facilitate the transition to fiber. Incentives that are going to be determined and up to 29 billion in benefits that end up in the u. S. Treasury. Some who a significant part of the plan, a place in the plan is the rural broadband. We talked about 420,000 road miles of fiber which will be either really leased or built in those rural areas and over 700 Cable Systems that would be connected with fiber. This is why a large deployment of this will increase the fiber connectivity in rural areas. It will increase the reliability of internet and those areas, but it will also increase fiber competition in those areas. We will have more options to have fiber if you are in a rural area. As a result of that, you can have smart grid applications. There will be more fiber to the local electric corporations so they can do smart meters and smart grid applications there will be isps using offering more speed. There will be a lot more fiber capacity and that fabric can also become the backbone for 5g connectivity in those rural areas. The most significant item for 5g is having fiber. It serves all purposes in that regard, regarding the jobs, economists have studied the fact in that and Fiber Investment there are some multiplier is that a wellknown and weve estimated with those 100,000 direct jobs and another 100,000 interact. Thats all thank you so much applause thanks for nikos the overview now i want to turn to jon wilkins who to leader short discussion. He is the former chief operating officer at fcc and also a former fcc Wireless Bureau chief and he has a lot of expertise in these issues he. Well introduce our pine a list and will also take questions for you. All the floor is yours. Thanks. Vanessa we can take the rest of our time getting giving the background of the panels and give their experience so we will do the opposite and go very quickly and go to questions. I will start on the far end of the table and just go back. The foreign, Ross Lieberman back towards me tim donovan Senior Vice President for ccf next to tim colleen king. I will let colleen say a few words about the charter and when they are in case you dont know them first of all, thank you very much. First of all im Vice President of china communications. I want to start by thinking all of you within charter i focus on wireless issues like how much everybody is excited for coming to this meeting today. Thank you off a. Beating china is a Cable Company serving 41 states. We are very interested in the sea band both as the company as the search million of Customers Using cband satellite delivery to our customers but its also company thats moving into wireless and 5g spectrum and how that can be used with increased connectivity for our customers we are very excited about this plan. And providing spectrum i am happy to talk about. Then thanks kelly. Next to colleen was a policy director of Public Knowledge. Thanks and the sore invitingly public but i am the pot policy director for Public Knowledge we are a consumer advocates organization we spent the last few that case working on spectrum policies. We view spectrum as a as an important its a way to would competition into broadband market choices and and lower prices for consumers. Last but not least Ross Marchand from the taxpayers thanks john that Taxpayers Protection Alliance is a Taxpayer Group founded in 2011 we figure things to make sure making sure that unintended consequences are highlighted and governments actions are highlighted it brought to its and to attention we focus on a broad array of issues including cband to make sure that im happy to be here today to discuss those broadband issues especially as it relates to cband and taxpayers if you have if you have questions we will take them at 12 45 to 50. This is a complicated issue but its really important and the world of the telecoms that we want to start the questions that a bit more strategic and let me start the end of the table. Actually there are two races so i may have to do first initials. Stephen that talked about that a little bit lets why is it so why is cnn so important for as a member matter of public possible why is it so important for youre members across the country especially in the small World Markets at the outset its important because spectrum is important potential both service delivered today and it doesnt happen if carries dont have access. Spectrum is a resource as i mentioned we have we have we dont have any more of it so its a its important to make very efficient use of that what we have. With the benefits of balancing the capacity of propagation distance is celso a large allocation of continuous specter the 400 megahertz what that means is that if you cant repurpose as much as possible you have larger blocks and these larger blocks allow you to have more of the benefits doesnt next potential if you do have these allegations. You think it how spectrum has been license before it was initially voice communication and who uses voice on their phone anymore. Everything has shifted to data. We need to look at this opportunity to reforms of these prime large applications and how we can make the most efficient particularly as when it costs to the let me just start by saying most of not all light as tim said we agree with offices account for the country as a whole were in we are in the Broadband Services<\/a> in remote areas, hard to reach areas. Doing a great job on delivering that broadband promise. Today we are also very happy to talk about our 5g plus plan because we think that the proceeding thats on the way the is very important for the future not only for wireless to indication, if done ride with the work that the fcc can do it can release an enormous amount of spectrum of 5g service and next generation of wireless and provide to certainly rural areas. We support the fcc seizing this opportunity and thats why aca knex as john the charter with cca charter and cca current users of also prospective to develop and present what we consider a new pad with unprecedented benefits to the american public. Let me cover what this plan and our 5g plus plan as fundamental goals thats the will to square this county. Moment nearly double any other proposal using transparent spectrum overseen by the fcc further. It will make currency bent users and provide in incentives to forego their existing rights. We think that spectrum under this plan will be available for 5g and other services in at least 18 months. Many rural areas within 36 months. We are talking about a lot of spectrum, talking about getting it out to the public to use quickly. Second, our plan would use auction proceeds to help support the deployment of a nationwide fiber based video Programming Network<\/a> to all multi channel video programming distributors throughout the country. And based on analysis you will hear from the firm over five years timeframe we can readily were allowed 120,000 route miles of fiber required for this network. Moreover, all of this fiber will not just be used to deliver high quality video programming, but it can be it will become a fundamental part of our infrastructure for Rural America<\/a> supporting the divide the deployment of 5g, enabling significant smart grid, smart need touring applications focusing on tel the health, Public Safety<\/a> service and many other things. One final but very important benefit of this planet is we believe this plan will create the directly 100,000 jobs and indirectly as many as another as another 100,000 jobs. So this plan when you look at it and when you study it, it is truly a win win for all stakeholders, certainly in this proceeding and for the american public. It provides the spectrum that we need the next Generation Wireless Services<\/a> it provides a seamless transition mechanism working with the fcc through a process transparent process led by the fcc that will make both earth station satellite operators to process will sensitize users to actually move will result in billions of dollars flowing to the u. S. Treasury while advancing connectivity in Rural America<\/a>. Winwin. Its my pleasure now to turn the podium over to my friends from c c i steven berry thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you i. Good afternoon i thank everyone for joining. I noticed its standing room only. We do have some refreshments over there. My name is steve berry, president ceo of fcc a we are the nations leader members range from small, medium, and large carriers, some serving less than 5000 customers to regional a nationwide cares to serve millions of customers. As well as the vendors that support that ecosystem in the wireless world. Everyone will play a role in building out 5g, we know that. But these are the carriers, the operators that will pay for spectrum license and put spectrum to use the serve consumers, particularly in urban rural areas of the united states. So along with him aca knex we really appreciate your attendance today to discuss the very important issue of c van spectrum. Matt discussed content delivery too proven Fiber Technologies<\/a> that would help the point and and markets. This also follow the fees in the fcc to make more spectrum available and keep the consumers insatiable appetite for the man and Wireless Services<\/a> and empower the 5g world spectrum its owned by taxpayers unlicensed by the government. For wireless consumers, 5g services will revolutionize Consumer Experience<\/a> in every aspect of their lives. It will power the latest health, telling health improvement, precision agriculture distance learning, Autonomous Vehicles<\/a> augmented in virtual reality. Public safety a high priority and other services that really are not imagined yet. While theres a lot of hype around the 5g Wireless Services<\/a>, these new technologies and services will not be possible without additional allocations of. Spectrum wireless fibers alike to call it, there are ways to actually power all the Wireless Services<\/a>. Between three point 74. 2 gigahertz, thats about 500 megahertz of critical myth that critical turning point in future of connectivity in america. All carries must have low, mid, and high spectrum. While low ben obligates great distances and high band gives it a potential for blistering speed, in mitt van spectrum has unique blend of distance and capacity. It will be particularly important in the 0. 5 g services and we will. America at the 500 megahertz, the size of the band is one of the last opportunity for carries to obtain as much mid band spectrum. With these large blocks sizes, Faster Services<\/a> can be acquired. Satellite companies, the incumbents of the current users of the ban, have self identified that they are not maximizing the potential for the use of the band. They are willing to vacate some parts of it for a consumer use. But i say that its a lost opportunity, plain and simple if we do not repurpose the maximum amount of possible a spectrum possible with our pro competition plant, them we will auction five or six licensees in every market. This will feel competition and innovation. That can only be done if we clear 300 megahertz or more spectrum of this critical mid ban spectrum. We can only imagine what the possibilities are. Our pro competition plan will inject a significant amount of fiber connectivity in Rural America<\/a> also, as matt mentioned, which will also help the back all on ig but will help bring Broadband Services<\/a> to real america. As matt pointed out, this will ignite the investment in a fundamental in fact infrastructure in. America our chairman has dated the fcc plans to make a decision the decision regarding the sea ban. We encourage him to do it we encourage congress to use its Oversight Authority<\/a> to ensure that this proper guidance, oversight and transparency required to ensure we maximize the potential for sea band. Preserving Public Airways<\/a> for public good this is a serious challenge and he is a serious solution sissi a, aca connects antarctica medicaid in official timely manner allocates through a transparent option the guidance and expertise that only the fcc can bring. The revenues will benefit american taxpayers. You will hear a lot today about a well balanced plan to address a serious challenge and a great opportunity. So thank you one and all for joining. Again if you need something to drink, was to have a few refreshments over there. I will turn it back over to vanessa that will keep us on schedule. Thank you. Thanks. Steve thanks. Matt now i want to turn it to four cardigan consulting. It . They do so much my name is nikos andrikogiannopoulos i am with partition. When was one of the oldest Strategy Consulting<\/a> firms in the telecoms space. With over 30 years of experience advising clients in the telecoms sector. What i like to do is walk you through a little bit of mechanics of the plan. As steve explained before it cband is very desirable part of the spectrum its i am not the its right in between and if you think about it, its between the wifi frequency of 2. 4, to win five that we all use. Its 3. 7, 4. 2. Its right in between. Its kind of an ideal part of the spectrum for wireless communications. Limit let me talk about how this is being used today. As we said this is 400 megahertz of spectrum. The big part of it is completely unused. So 180 megahertz out of that is not being used. Under previous plans you might have seen, this is the bar that is being proposed to kind of be reformed. From the remaining spectrum that is being used the largest part, 170 megahertz of that, is being used for cable programming. Thats another, if you add up the unused on the used and get 350, our plan is going after 370. What remains in that 130 megahertz, think about radio channels, religious programming and a number of other applications that are mobile. Under our plan, which we filed in early july by transitioning off the programming to fiber, we released far more spectrum. At the same time one of the great benefits here is a lot of rural fiber development. I will explain a bit more about how how the plan will happen in subsequent slides. With auction will be able to more than double, the proceeds or greater. That allows the proceeds to go to u. S. Treasury. From this process now a lot to you through the mechanics the most important part is how we transition cable programming off satellites. What you see in the diagram on the lefthand side you see is studio beginning to a satellite and Cable Provider<\/a> receiving the content and then distributing it over to u. S. Households. Thats extremely valuable in rural areas as you might expect, urban areas some of the fiber already exists. What we are proposing is moving both the content the fiber so we will have to connect at the table the from then on the can keep distributing it as before. Thats one part of a plan the second part of the plan. So with the 100 remaining 130 megahertz that band. With that band we will be using this is exactly similar to what previous plans have provoked. Its a process that the satellite operators go through from time to time we are talking about we parking all kinds of lower frequencies into the upper 130 megahertz so that 370 can be free. Summarizing some of the other parts of the plan, there is far more spectrum, at least 370 megahertz. This is going to be an fcc lead auction with reimbursements, castro embarrassments and incentives. Cost indoor cost reimbursement will cover the cost of transition to fiber, and obviously all the plays for the transition to happen in a timely matter. As i mentioned before up to 18 months for urban areas. These are the areas that already had five today. Think about dense metro areas where providers are already connected to the data centers. After three years for most areas where there is, there will be modest Fiber Deployment<\/a> or procurement of existing fiber. Up to five years for hard to reach rural areas with a significant construction of five of them might be required for a redundancy reason. Let me make a note here that when we talk about Fiber Deployment<\/a> as you can imagine, all Cable Systems<\/a> that exist all Cable Systems<\/a> that exist in the usa mineral have some amount of fiber to date or at least have access to some fibers of the gunfight internet the can of internet their subscribers so that our plan is proposing not to adding more capacity and adding more reliability through ridden links of delivery can happen in a very reliable manner them. Lastly, in terms of benefits, we are proposing over 400 400,000 miles of fiber, out of which 120,000 miles with the constructed. Up to 20 up to 29 billion that will end up with the u. S. Treasury and obviously that kind of investment in fiber there will be lots and lots of jobs that will be created. 200,000 jobs direct and indirect estimation we have made. As i mentioned before, huge amount of spectrum with the 370, using some benchmarks in the industry. We modestly estimate 30 to 37 billion dollars from the auctions. Probably a lot more than that. Cost reimbursements it will be tonight 11 billion to facilitate the transition to fiber. Incentives that are going to be determined and up to 29 billion in benefits that end up in the u. S. Treasury. Some who a significant part of the plan, a place in the plan is the rural broadband. We talked about 420,000 road miles of fiber which will be either really leased or built in those rural areas and over 700 Cable Systems<\/a> that would be connected with fiber. This is why a large deployment of this will increase the fiber connectivity in rural areas. It will increase the reliability of internet and those areas, but it will also increase fiber competition in those areas. We will have more options to have fiber if you are in a rural area. As a result of that, you can have smart grid applications. There will be more fiber to the local electric corporations so they can do smart meters and smart grid applications there will be isps using offering more speed. There will be a lot more fiber capacity and that fabric can also become the backbone for 5g connectivity in those rural areas. The most significant item for 5g is having fiber. It serves all purposes in that regard, regarding the jobs, economists have studied the fact in that and Fiber Investment<\/a> there are some multiplier is that a wellknown and weve estimated with those 100,000 direct jobs and another 100,000 interact. Thats all thank you so much applause thanks for nikos the overview now i want to turn to jon wilkins who to leader short discussion. He is the former chief operating officer at fcc and also a former fcc Wireless Bureau<\/a> chief and he has a lot of expertise in these issues he. Well introduce our pine a list and will also take questions for you. All the floor is yours. Thanks. Vanessa we can take the rest of our time getting giving the background of the panels and give their experience so we will do the opposite and go very quickly and go to questions. I will start on the far end of the table and just go back. The foreign, Ross Lieberman<\/a> back towards me tim donovan Senior Vice President<\/a> for ccf next to tim colleen king. I will let colleen say a few words about the charter and when they are in case you dont know them first of all, thank you very much. First of all im Vice President<\/a> of china communications. I want to start by thinking all of you within charter i focus on wireless issues like how much everybody is excited for coming to this meeting today. Thank you off a. Beating china is a Cable Company<\/a> serving 41 states. We are very interested in the sea band both as the company as the search million of Customers Using<\/a> cband satellite delivery to our customers but its also company thats moving into wireless and 5g spectrum and how that can be used with increased connectivity for our customers we are very excited about this plan. And providing spectrum i am happy to talk about. Then thanks kelly. Next to colleen was a policy director of Public Knowledge<\/a>. Thanks and the sore invitingly public but i am the pot policy director for Public Knowledge<\/a> we are a consumer advocates organization we spent the last few that case working on spectrum policies. We view spectrum as a as an important its a way to would competition into broadband market choices and and lower prices for consumers. Last but not least Ross Marchand<\/a> from the taxpayers thanks john that Taxpayers Protection Alliance<\/a> is a Taxpayer Group<\/a> founded in 2011 we figure things to make sure making sure that unintended consequences are highlighted and governments actions are highlighted it brought to its and to attention we focus on a broad array of issues including cband to make sure that im happy to be here today to discuss those broadband issues especially as it relates to cband and taxpayers if you have if you have questions we will take them at 12 45 to 50. This is a complicated issue but its really important and the world of the telecoms that we want to start the questions that a bit more strategic and let me start the end of the table. Actually there are two races so i may have to do first initials. Stephen that talked about that a little bit lets why is it so why is cnn so important for as a member matter of public possible why is it so important for youre members across the country especially in the small World Markets<\/a> at the outset its important because spectrum is important potential both service delivered today and it doesnt happen if carries dont have access. Spectrum is a resource as i mentioned we have we have we dont have any more of it so its a its important to make very efficient use of that what we have. With the benefits of balancing the capacity of propagation distance is celso a large allocation of continuous specter the 400 megahertz what that means is that if you cant repurpose as much as possible you have larger blocks and these larger blocks allow you to have more of the benefits doesnt next potential if you do have these allegations. You think it how spectrum has been license before it was initially voice communication and who uses voice on their phone anymore. Everything has shifted to data. We need to look at this opportunity to reforms of these prime large applications and how we can make the most efficient particularly as when it costs to the let me just start by saying most of not all light as tim said we agree with offices account for the country as a whole were in we are in the National Deployment<\/a> and we wanna make sure we are well positioned in that perspective. Particularly for our membership that is small rural operators we do rely on cband to receive a cable streams that we offer to our customers and in many of those areas satellite is the only way get the signals because fiber is not available. As we approach this proceeding and i think similarly to broadcasters churches and others that are utilizing c band which are the approach how do we find the balance we find more spectrum and at the same time ensuring that existing users of the sea bent are kept our are kept and then the customers receive the service of the camera. So thats why we look at the 5g plus plan and go Cable Operators<\/a> are willing to step up and willing to transition in order to free up the capacity and in exchange we need a good Delivery System<\/a> which is fiber. We recognize them the benefit that it would not only to provide to our customers but also more services to the communities that these small Cable Operators<\/a> are serving, whether or not its private broadband or to local hospitals or Health Care Center<\/a> or too small Great Technology<\/a> to might be available, theres a lot of additional benefits that Cable Operators<\/a> can provide in to the committees by having this connectivity. Thanks. Ross let me continue with that theme we will turn to calling in the sack from that you have been it wouldve been a very unusual thing have a point of view but with the interesting thing about this even as the Cable Company<\/a> is they have, whats the right amount was the right analogy, they have multiple dogs in all parts of this fight the buff distribute Program Using<\/a> see ben, calling talk about this in our introduction, calling, you just on this first remark, what is the charter thing about this at a Company Level<\/a> given that you are actually using sea band for you all uses and at times. Having to do that balancing in wet its not it was a case with fcc proceedings . For charter this is an interesting topic because we really are on all sides of this Group Millions<\/a> of our customers the fcc would do something for something. Not something that we would ever support so we are looking for a plan that would continue to protect the customers. On the other hand we are also moving into the wire space last year we launched and the mo and looking at how 5g could be of use for our wireless products to expand our use. So maybe people of noted that keep fives spectrum we are on both sides. At first we were nervous about it took us a while to get comfortable with the idea of fiber. But working with aca in the plan to put a lot of work and putting it and that it can be done. Its clearly expensive, but the processes that the proceeds from the actions are going to be used for fiber. And for charter who wants to make sure our customers are protected and it connects Connectivity Company<\/a> to expand at fiber in other areas and can access the spectrum. The 5g plus plant has all of these buses to come along with, it and its very important to charter. Lets now do a deep dive into one of the big issues, which is the question of the auction. Sort of the dollars related there too. Im gonna turn now to a joint question to philip and ross i will just start of that simple. Level one of the should it be a public fcc auction the way its been since the 1990s, for all kinds of spectrum lobe and, high band, or this alternative idea of a private auction endorsed by the fcc . Let me start with a general question. How do you to see the pros and cons there and i will have some followup to. Im going to answer your question with a question. What is the fundamental driver of prospect to join prosperity for the past 200 years of . So markets. They dont exist in a vacuum they are key characteristics that are there are key characteristics are necessary for them to perform and especially with technological innovation. You need transparency, in need competition and and the fundamental bedrock of marketplace competition, you need monetary transaction point of sale to make sure that the underlying value of the resource thats changing hands is reflected. And this is probably the biggest sort of contention the, biggest contrast in the two plans. The plan presented today has that monetary value given to the ultimate owner of the spectrum of that u. S. Taxpayers. I believe the figure just side it was 30 billion dollars go into the treasury, devoted to deficit reduction on behalf of taxpayers who own this valuable little bit of spectrum now. Now the plan floated by the Cband Alliance<\/a> doesnt have a kind of guarantee. Theres a buzz phrase in washington in you know we are two used to buzzwords unquestionable racism violent involuntary contribution. What does that mean . I dont think anybody voluntary contributions sorry. I dont think anyone knows the idea the idea of voluntary competition is thrown into doubt the other day when you tell us one of the four satellite confident them that comprise the sea ban alliance from the want to be cartel theyre making waves because the ceo few weeks ago said yes theres no consensus on where there are not taxpayers are going to be made hole. Thats unacceptable. That undermines fundamental any fundamental market process. You get that guarantee the taxpayers would be made whole its such an important issue, such a brushing pressing issue for public welfare, the Public Interest<\/a>, you see that was array of groups getting behind this to make sure that the taxpayers are made whole. Taxpayers Protection Alliance<\/a> we dont see eye to eye many issues. Maybe 5 of issues. We see eye to eye on this because its a pressing issue. Taxpayers resources, valuable resources are going to be put into the hands if cpa gets its way, into a group that will opaque really, not transparent at all, sell those resources no guarantee of getting those resources back to taxpayers. The stakes cannot be higher. We have 20 million americans you dont have access to fast and reliable internet cband delivered properly that, could deliver and be a very important part of benefits delivered opaque plea totally devoid of light of day, and incentives are skewed, not only will this be cause for litigation for years to come, slow down roll out of 5g but it will constrains from any room allocation down the road. Its important the taxes manhole, i think the plan presented today provides it feasible blueprint for that. We need to make sure that incentives are in the right place and cband goes to 5g deployment to close the digital divide. Thank. You yes, so i think they are two issues here. You have the legal issue and then a policy issue. As Congressional Staff<\/a> and the fcc is looking at this, you should be weighing both of these and theyre going to interact with each other. I think that ross got into this a little bit. And you know, johns question highlighted the fact that the sec for decades now as experienced running auctions allocate as consumers and the public and wireless Carrier Companies<\/a> and everybody benefited from that process and weve seen that for the last couple of. That is the private sale proposal that satellite providers have floated here, its on proven and frankly we believe in what with told the fcc, that is technically illegal under section 390 of the communications that the sec doesnt have the authority to allow the sort of private sale transaction. Even if you are making the case and even if the satellite providers were trying to make a case about benefits of the proposal,, they just simply fail the initial legal threshold question. So those benefits are not reliable realize. Able but there is substantial drawback to the city a proposal because of the private sale element that frankly the proposal, on that aca charter and that put him on the table are not burdened by. For instance from policy perspective, as ross mentioned, the monitor issue. Essentially there are tens of billions of dollars on the table here and those can either end up in the hands of a handful of satellite companies, or you can go to treasury and congress can use that to address other pressing priorities. Broadband, Digital Equity<\/a> issues, affordability in the broadband space and you would have a pot of money essentially to address those issues. Another issue i think is important for cnn numbers, there distort of competitive impacts from allowing a handful of companies to essentially, the proposal is to auction this for as much money as possible, sell this out in the marketplace for as much as possible without winning the different Public Benefits<\/a> to the fcc action is required to think about. Things like competition and how this is going how the auction is going to get broadband to people who dont have it. Thats something that wouldnt be considered through the cbs Alliance Proposal<\/a> the last thing the ross alluded to this dangerous precedent. Here any time to the fcc or members of Congress Want<\/a> to find a spectrum to be reframe, because its new technology or new service that needs it or theres an underutilized swath of spectrum someplace, and we need to figure out how to use it more efficiently, the final public resource we should be using unofficially. Essentially the essay, the cia proposal says that until youve essentially paid off the existing license holders, you are unable to actually make a move and do anything that uses that spectrum more efficiently and uses that spectrum to hire Public Interest<\/a> benefit. There are substantial draw backs to the proposal satellite providers but on the table the aca, the proposal here is not burdened by it. The proposal is legally sound under the Communications Act<\/a> and i think what we will probably get into the other benefits later on. I think this is a key piece to think about as we take this back to your office. Thanks. One thing you said i would just are you okay . Your point around president and the fcc real allocating spectrum from all used to new ones happens all the time the idea of how how detailed allocation how does the fcc reallocated, its a common activity and in the fcc bureau and worth noting for that reason separate from the money. Lets switch to another important topic. The question fiber. In the plan we talked about Fiber Deployment<\/a> part of the five gplus plan. Let me turn to ross and colleen from the cable perspective. It is idea of using more extensive deployment of fiber to more efficiently take place in some areas cband is really important. Lets talk more about how that would work. Your company you, remember companies the, ones to do this for a living you distribute just for second i will also also common fire is used for video programming its not like a totally new thing we are talking about just how we go from today to what your plan is envisioning to this fiber transition part of the plan. Im sure. First, the most exciting part from our perspective of the spine and the part thats really unique from other plans out there as the Fiber Deployment<\/a> that would occur. The plan will make an investment of 67 billion in fibers in fiber network. It will be able to be utilized for transport a video across the country and included in that is 120,000 fiber route miles in smaller markets in rural areas this is not just the single strand, him this is redundant fiber which means that is this by rick cut on one hand customers in those rural areas will not lose access to the service and it will be paid out of proceeds. Its not going to require increasing taxes, its not going to require diversion of money from u. S. To this purpose. This build out is going to come out of the proceeds of an auction of spectrum thats going to end up being added benefit to rural areas. In rural areas you will get not only Fiber Deployment<\/a> but you will get the Wireless Services<\/a>. So for rural carriers, that are gonna get this Fiber Deployment<\/a>, when they will essentially be doing they will be decommissioning their existing cband earth station and will be building a transport a data center in a nearby larger mid sized market. At the same time, the programmers will send the signal via fiber to the same point. They will have meet up where they will, where the exchange will happen and the content will be delivered via fiber and theres nothing revolutionary about this concept. Theres plenty of video this delivered via fiber today Cable Operators<\/a> move video via fiber, wall street uses fiber to make transactions its a highly reliable means of delivering service when its architecture to appropriately. Consumers, theyll see what they will see is better speeds, potential for better speeds and other advantages to having that kind of ten gig broadband backbone going into the communities can provide. Some anything you want to add colleen . I will just say from chinas perspective we are a major fiber company. We use it extensively. Were constantly building it our network and fiber is a key part of our services. Getting the video as comfortable with the idea of using fiber is heart and because of the regency. And the problem with redundancy is a cost. Thats why were interested in this plan because this plan will provide the proceeds necessary to get fiber into the rural areas to connect everything and to build into the redundancy you need to make sure that our customers can continue to receive video programming without any issues. So we agree with what ross says and we looked at it its extensively and were comfortable that this is something we can. Do lets continue the story because this idea of the 5g plus plan has two birds with one stone aspect. Fiber deployment in part to refurbish see ban and also the fiber structure in rural the so from me from wireless operators perspective what would that additional mean for your members ability to offer mobile and fixed steve talked about where the cyber right . What does this mean for the ability to operate in other areas . Not only the wireless carriers neither wireless aspect, but is we need to back all it. Especially with high capacity operations, fixed wireless deployments, looking at 5g services, you know these networks really exist on the high fiber diet. If that fiber isnt nearly available, that becomes a choke point we dont want your points. In this area. With the pilot ability for them to have services that they do require and demand it really is a twofold benefit they also need access to fiber these are two of the most fundamental bits of the services that we want to get to reel in america identified as a key priority from your boss is in our bosses and leaning members of congress congress, thats something that we want to do to remain competitive as a country. Great now we will go to 20 from the audience in a few minutes and a lot of lets now give it to the last brought piece of the story. Just the differences between the plans and kind of where the path forward could really look like. And we threw out one. People following the debate, theres been some suggestion an observation maybe a hybrid a compromise. Maybe we start with a private auction thats fast and get some spectrum and initially and then you do a public auction of the sec a little bit more deliberately and get the best of both worlds. Here let me start, philip do you want to take the first swing that question and i will open it up for others. Without work and what will be might be some of the hidden traps of might that be an interesting way for the sec to kind of split the baby . I kind of touched on some of these pieces and the questions you want to the fcc try to do a hybrid approach on this. Essentially suggesting a private Auction Private<\/a> sale to start public art auction to the rest of the spectrum. The first one is simply the Legal Authority<\/a> please piece. The sec simply doesnt have ilLegal Authority<\/a> under its Auction Authority<\/a> to authorize this private sale it has the authority, as john mentioned, to modify licenses to reform spectrum, to reorganize bands. It doesnt have the authority to essentially privatized that. That part of it. The part of its mandate from congress. The other piece, and i think tim touched on it a little bit from the first time we spoke, if you allow for private sale and essentially allow for actions later on, when you are asking there is for a smaller and competitive wireless companies, Companies Offering<\/a> services the areas that might not be served by some of the big four nationwide carries. You are asking them to wait and frankly, their consumers have been waiting along. Time theyve been waiting to get 4g, service 3g service and youre essentially telling telling them to get into the back of the queue and the possibility is the way the auctions work, the largest carriers would have bite in the apple First Tranche<\/a> that it would come back from the four other slices later on so it might be that smaller competitive providers never get access to the spectrum they need. Which if you live in an area that is economically difficult to serve for a nationwide carrier, it means you may never get this Service Using<\/a> mitt bannon spectrum and 5g. It doesnt make sense . Diaz having multiple carriers, having a meaningful opportunity to Access Spectrum<\/a> is important. Theres a lot of talk in d. C. About the race to 5g, everybody here has heard about the race to 5g. Thats not a race of one carry together hands and deployed where they want to do. It its a team range. The whole country is together on this if we dont have multiple carriers with 5g services we are not winning the race. If you leave a huge loss of people without a services and urban areas how you have multiple building we are not winning the race. Multiple people building out services and all of the areas, not just where one or two Companies May<\/a> feel its the right marketplace for them to do so right. Now some from a cband users perspective we look reallocating apart now and apart later creates extreme destruction for those existing users because what is going to have, going to happen in the first instance is satellite customers are going to have to be repacked, an existing earth station users, satellite dish users are going to have to repointer satellites and install filters. Thats just perhaps the next first. Hundred and a next time they want to clear, more theres going to have to be in other repack and more we pointings filters installed and thats extremely disruptive particularly focused small medium sized entities that are spending their time deploying fiber, broadband rather than repointing dishes. It creates an enormous amount of uncertainty. You may know, im okay for the first 200, but you know theres gonna be more spectrum thats gonna be reallocated in the future. But youre not going to know how thats gonna be resolved for you. Are you going to get some sort of replacement . Are you going to be made . All you will have to hold back resources you could spend in the marketplace in order to protect you and provide those guarantees that you will be able to remain in business in the future, depending on how the fcc ultimately decides to reallocate the spectrum later. It puts a black guard black cloud of uncertainty over their business for the next decade. And then finally, if you clear the first 200 for instance and all of that money ends up going to satellite companies, its not clear whether clearing another 100 megahertz or so theres gonna be enough money out of those proceeds to make whole everybody that would need to be made whole. So theres an opportunity with the 5g plus plan to deal with this issue all that. Once 370 megahertz all at one time, take all of that money and from the proceeds and deal with everybody and then we can say we are, done everybody can get on with a business of serving their customers some. Questions from the audience . Several figures have been thrown out, it sounds like part of it relates and at 67, what can we break down the 400,000 because several hundred people can you repeat the question, i did not . Here it was about the specifics of the dollars associated, with the specifics of the plan with regard to that piece. Thank you, and i would like this way. The plan what im saying is already in our plan. I did not break any news here. Flip the plan thats called four is the transition of all of the industry from satellite to fiber. The total transition cost, all inclusive up that is six to seven billion dollars, and that includes a number of different components. Including both acquiring a type of fiber, as well as new construction. Because there is, in total, of the phone will rely on 420,000 fiber miles, 400,000 of those miles are already in the ground, theres no need to spend money to build more fiber, we can use what is there. 120,000 fiber route miles that will be needed to be constructed, but that is all inclusive up to 67 billion dollars that i have discussed. How does the exit outside change the calculation . The said make your position stronger, and your organizations position stronger . They announced they are withdrawing from the alliance formally, and details about everything, and that questioning pointed to anyone on the panel. Sure. So an interesting bit of news, they did not want to be a part of the cpa anymore, it means a few things, and no matter what the spin you cast on the interpretation of it, it undercuts the case and that you have the Satellite Company<\/a> for a long time, relief for a few weeks, saying that casting doubts about this voluntary contribution, and contradicting, for example cva executive Vice President<\/a> who made a commitment to a whereas there is no agreement on that. So, i think that the escalation of that disagreement into them saying openly that they dont want to be a part of that case even more doubt on that both her commitment and by exchange whether taxpayers will be made hole or not. Definitely, it makes it less likely that it is a. Its also a validation, economics oneonone and, that whenever you have a cartel or consortium, or whatever you want to call it, things break down right away. Because one Company Wants<\/a> a private deal and they want more resources and more money than the other companies. It calls into question, and you have to ask the question, who will the fcc be dealing with if cba gets its way, how Many Companies<\/a> will stay on and how many will go the way of. Ill add that, im pleased to be able to say that since, we have launched our plan in july, that weve been able to grow our membership up those that have been in support of the 5g plus plan, including those that filed comments and support but whether or not is the broadband fiber association, and we think that we will continue to grow our support for a plan that we think best positions ourself for the future. The only thing ive had to it is, wow that might add some uncertainty on the alliance side, it is a change any of the 5g plus plan, we firmly believe that we are on sound legal footing, we have the plan that has the most benefits of funds are going to the treasury to be used as congress directed, and fiber being expanded deeper into rural areas. None of that has changed by and its the structure of the Cband Alliance<\/a>. I do have one or two more questions that i can add. Are you will be building to the front fiber separate from each other between connections how does that work . Yes, i mean particularly in discussions with programmers, we understand that its really important that fiber we didnt. Theres multiple paths that are geographically diverse. People dont want fiber on two sides of the same street because if you get if you have a problem on that street, it can knock out both lines. So in our discussions and what we plan on submitting later this month, is a plan that shows for true diversity that will be able to provide whats called five nights of reliability, which is equivalent to the reliability that a satellite industry provides. Its a very Robust Network<\/a> that will ensure that customers dont lose access video programming they get today. Let me add let me let me build on that. So i think all and he said a charter, no Cable Company<\/a> wants to be in the business of disrupting the tv program and other customers get. This debate will video distribution still work and programmers only companies can be hesitant to go all fiber. How practically these are oh a you do you plan to work through these concerns . Like you said with regard to video business youre on the same side but every everybody wants the signal to go through how do you work through that from a practical standpoint . As you noted we are on the same side we are gonna get the call from the customer if the programming goes as we are definitely very concerned with making sure that any type of system thats adopted is want to provide the same type of real reliability the reliability that we have with cband talking about a video side of this, there was concerns because usually its too expensive to get the reliability it means that redundancy it needs. This plan provides for that because of the funding. The other thing that they are excited about is fiber. It just has more capacity. We are looking at 4k and aka and beyond. Fiber provides more capacity for the services and and for developing. It really does future prove our services and great benefit with the 5g plus. Plan anything i just want to say on behalf we have the panel is the moderator thank you for a great panel. 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