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Transcripts For CSPAN3 Impeachment Inquiry House Hearings Judiciary Hearing On Constitutional... 20240713

I dont think too many people are going to watch because its going to be boring. All right . In fact, youre here, i guess youre here, and well supersede it, but not a lot of people are going to be watching today. Just think of this. Constitutional lawyers they get three and we get one. What kind of a deal is that . You dont need a constitutional lawyer because nothing was done wrong. Zero done wrong. I will say it again, read the transcript and then listen to what the president of ukraine said. He said there was no pressure whatsoever. Listen to what the foreign minister of ukraine highly respected man, very both very respected. Listen to what the foreign minister said. He said there was pressure whatsoever. Thats the only one that counts but then listen to all of their witnesses and not one of them said anything that was meaningful other than positive for me. Like the one said there was no quid pro quo. Thats what he said. And he said that i actually told him that. There will be no quid pro quo. I said that. And i said other things that were Even Stronger than that. And, you know, it as a disgrace that they are doing this. And theyre doing it because they think they cant win in 2020. Theyre doing it because you take a look at their candidates. And their candidates are not doing too well. And they think this is their only shot. Its a disgrace. Because this process was not supposed to be used that way. President trump there speaking before he left london and the nato summit and a look at the Judiciary Committee room. The impeachment inquiry hearing proceeding about 2 30 p. M. Eastern. Members are on the floor now taking votes and were going to get back to your calls. I want to hear what you think about what we have seen so far today. Kim in frisco, texas, on democrats line. Waiting patiently. Hi, kim, go ahead. Caller hi. I wanted to equate turley with william barr because hes his definition on what the constitution says about impeachment is along the lines of william barr representation of the mueller report. The three the three from harvard and stanford, those three constitutional lawyers explained to us very clearly the how it applies to impeachment. He never addressed the real questions of bribery. He never addressed the real question of high crimes and misdemeanor. I didnt even understand his definition. Compared to what i understood the three the other three to say. But the lawyer taylor, he said that partisanship was on the democrats side. But its not. The partisanship is on the republicans side. They are even though they dont have the power, they are dug in to make trump look like what hes doing what hes suppose to do. What do you make of turleys argument that its wafer thin. Caller i disagree. Because trump said he confessed to the crime. The acting chief of staff mulvaney confessed to the crime so what other evidence do you need when theyre confessing the crime. I dont understand that. I mean, i know its not in the criminal law be any law when you confess to the crime arent you guilty . All right. Paula is calling from mount vernon, ohio, on the independents line. Caller hi, thanks for taking my call. I totally disagree with your other callers i dont see any evidence that trump did anything wrong. I totally support him. I dont see any evidence where bribery applies or any other issue. Okay. Caller i think he was well in his rights to do what he what he did, the administrative and executive orders. I think he was well in his rights and i applaud for the good job hes been doing for america. Thanks there on the line for independents and others. Democrats line, michelle in texas. Caller hi, one thing im not confident about or confused about is i know that corruption in ukraine is the basis of the investigate investigating corruption in ukraine is a big basis of why but im confused about so russia and saudi arabia are also equally corrupt . But its never been like an issue to he never denied either countries in regards to the crimes they committed. For example, russia. The election interference. He said, you know, oh, i believe putin, it wasnt an issue or like it wasnt real and with khashoggi, the murdered saudi arabian, oh, it cant be saudi arabia. So why is ukraine the ultimate like parallel of investigations . All right. Call now from connecticut, walling ford. Daniel on the line, republican. Caller thank you very much for having me. A few things i found very interesting about what was going on. So the first one i do feel like both parties are really contributing to this political charade which is going on. Democrats democrats who a are who have publicly stated such as adam schiff who publicly stated they wanted to hear from the whistleblower and then when republicans say we want to hear from the whistleblower they deny that opportunity. Another point i really want to mention is i feel like we have taken away we have gone away from another huge issue which is corruption in ukraine but what about the corruption with hunter biden . Its okay if were going to move forward in impeachment, we do need to hear all of the facts but i feel like were also losing touch of the reason of corruption as a whole which is the republicans argument here theyve trying to fight corruption and nobody should want corruption never. Yet, when we are talking about corruption now all we have done is shift to impeachment and its like weve left corruption weve left corruption behind. Regardless of if its hunter biden if its hunter whoever, from any Political Party or any political candidate, anybody, we should be investigating corruption and i do not belie believe and hunter biden is not a political opponent, just because his dad is does not mean he is. Thats something i also want to make very clear here. Thanks, daniel. Calling from connecticut there. Tweet here from fox news, chad per gram. He writes, if the impeachment hearing starts again around 2 30 p. M. Eastern, well bring you back to the hearing room for that with well over three hours of questions and answers remaining from individual members, plus closing statements, fox news estimates the hearing will end before 6 00 p. M. Eastern time. Of course you can continue watching here on cspan 3. We have it streaming online as well if youre away from your tv. Go to cspan. Org. And also find all of our clearinghouse of impeachment inquiry information. Cspan. Org impeachment. Taking your phone calls. We have got a caller from campbells burg, indiana, on the independents and others line. Hi, ann. Caller well, im glad to speak to you. Us too. Go on with your comments about the hearing. Caller okay. I have one question. Everyone keeps saying the president is lying. What is he lying about . I never get an answer about that because i havent seen it. I have looked and looked for the lie. And also, he clearly said no quid pro quo. So if he said that if he said he didnt want anything, it seems to me their argument is over. You know . So i feel that adam schiff has obviously lied. Anyone that watches and listens knows he has lied repeatedly as well. One more thing. The reason they dont want to cooperate at the white house is because the whole thing is unfair. You and i both see that people there on this committee are not allowing the republicans to have witnesses. Isnt that important . Isnt that important according to our constitution . Due process and hes not getting that. All right, ann, thanks for the call. Jared is calling, california, democrats line. Caller thanks for having me. You bet. Go ahead with your comment. Caller i just wanted to state that donald trump is a bloviated human piece of garbage and definitely should be impeached and nunes and his cronies as well as giuliani should be carted out in handcuffs. A caller here, sheffield, alabama. Joseph on the line, republican. Caller yes, maam. I think nancy pelosi, adam schiff, had it in for donald trump. I disagree with what he said long ago. Hes done more for this country than any president has. They dont like him. Democrats dont like him. Because he dont take no crap off the other countries and i dont think they should impeach him. What do you think today what you saw, heard from the constitutional scholars, focusing on the law of the land . Caller well, the law of the land, thats a bunch of malarkey. You know, they aint got no facts, aint got no proof. Well, the proof shows that he didnt do nothing. They keep on and on. I guess thats because the democrats and democrats is going to all stick together anyway. And keep trying to get him out of there. Thats the whole point. None of them likes him and because hes got this country better shape than its ever been. Appreciate the call from alabama. Take a look at a tweet from frank thorpe from nbc news. The 2020 Senate Calendar right now the hearing is in the house. That is where the articles of impeachment would be brought up and if theyre written up and if the house votes on impeachment, the actual trial would happen in the senate. So a look at the Senate Calendar january is missing because of the uncertainty with what theyll be doing with the impeachment trial, how long it will take if it comes over. A lot of things on capitol hill in flux. Were taking your phone calls. I want to hear what you think about the Judiciary Committee hearing that met today earlier this morning and theyll be continuing as soon as the members come back from votes. We have bernie calling and its in ohio. Help me out with the name of your town, please. Caller chill acoat. Go ahead with your comments. Caller one thing is i dont vote republican or democrat. I vote the issue. And i vote the person. But the whole thing just reminds me in general of what makes America Great and everyone is entitled to their opinions and their thoughts and their views. However, that may be based in reality or facts or their perception. You can put five people and have them directly observe a situation in at least and at least three of the five will tell you a slightly different version of what they saw. But regardless, i just look at the overall totality of the situation and can see i cant remember, im look 60, i can never remember any administration that has gone through so many different political appointees during their session or during their term or more people that have been convicted of crimes and imprisoned of crimes based on one persons actions or not necessarily the person, but their party. Like half a dozen of the people from the 2016 lrl already imprisoned and convicted of crimes but it is kind of sad that its tearing our nation apart. Thanks for the call. I appreciate it. Republican line, calling from portland, oregon. We have got neil on the line. Im sorry, is this im sorry, got a democratic caller, flint, michigan, lowell, is that you . Caller yes, its linnal. Thanks. Go ahead with your comments or question. Caller my comment is this hearing today is the same as it has been since trump has been in office and i have been a life long democrat until we start trying to impeach trump, okay . And the thing is is that everything including the Witnesses Today theyre supposed to be scholars but in reality theyre just party line witnesses. Just saying what theyre led to say by the people whom they come to testify for. And thats what washington has basically turned into. Also, its not about right or wrong. But its actually about influencing the communities of america to deem President Donald Trump as being a criminal because theyre not discussing the actionable evidence. Theyre discussing their personal views of what happened. And so i would like to see them discuss the evidence which was said in the previous hearings and to discuss both sides of the witnesses just not one side of the witnesses. Just to try to influence the American People one way or the other. So thats my assessment of what is happening today. Thanks a lot. Now were going to portland, oregon, republican line. Neil, sorry about that. Caller hello. This is a coup attempt, its so clear and its amazing how they keep glossing over these words especially the media. The media is creating this coup attempt. And im sorry to step on your toes, but look, biden is getting shokin fired for reason. He didnt want the exposure. He didnt want any investigation there. On the other hand, you have trump who is constantly lived up to his campaign promises. I mean, the list is extremely long. And i dont feel like listing because it will take up all your time. Pelosi, nadler, schiff and schumer theyre all puppets who are probably being paid to do what theyre doing. Their narrative is so weak and it just seems like theyve got this absolute hellbent desire to dethrone trump who has done the best in this country that any president has ever done. He supersedes lincoln, lincoln only freed the slaves. Yes, thats a big thing, but what trump is doing is far greater. The deep state exists and if you people dont understand this you havent done your homework. The quid pro quo has been turned into bribery because of a thats whats going on here. Theyre feeling their way to appeal to the American Public. And you people who are still calling trump a horrible person and youre still in the camp of hatred, look, spirituality and hatred do not hold hands so youre at the opposite end of the spectrum if youre calling it hate. Well take your phone calls for about ten more minutes. You can see the room on the side of the screen. No members are in. They were on the house floor voting. Take a look at a tweet though. Some of whats happening by hind behind the scenes according to julie pace. The House Speaker nancy pelosi posed a simple question on impeachment to House Democrats behind closed doors today. Saying are you ready . Shes asking the rank and file lawmakers and the answer she got back was a resounding yes. Taking your phone calls. Florida is next. Reed. Caller thank you for giving the people a forum to voice their opinions on this. The main thing i want to talk about is the law professors are people themselves and they have their own political opinions and view points and that seems to be all that we heard today from them was their opinion which is shaped somewhat by their own politics that doesnt give a clear view and its kind of disheartening that our congress is calling witnesses like this that are politically opinionated. And not allowing the opposing viewpoint to be heard. And thats pretty much all i wanted to say and point out to people who are voting and remember you hold a key power as people to vote not just for the president , but for those congressional officials that are carrying on this dog and pony show. Thanks for the call. Miami, florida, democrats line, derrick. Go ahead. You have the floor. Caller hey, i just had a statement and maybe a question. So part of providing part of our National Security is providing aid to ukraine. Right . Its part of our National Security agenda. Now we know theres an issue with corruption in ukraine. So there were there are several agencies in place working in concert together to ensure that ukraine meets the obligations that the u. S. Sets forth before we approve and release funding. So the notion the idea that trump is concerned about corruption is void because those processes are already handled. The second point was that leads me to no one is mentioning that he pretty much violated the impanel control act which basically states the president cannot arbitrarily withhold aid for any reason without consent of congress. And none of that was done and im not understanding why that point is being missed. I think it has been brought up actually, derrick. I want to point you back to our website, cspan. Org impeachment. We have heard especially during the questioning of the intelligence Committee Hearing from evidentiary witnesses there talking about the fact that that money has been appropriated by congress and had been stopped and you can take a look at that. Again on our website, cspan. Org impeachment. We want to hear in you. Juanita is on the line, las vegas, nevada, republican. Go ahead. Caller yes, im calling from las vegas. It seems like the left and the right are watching two different hearings here. But my point is this. When President Trump was elected and he took the oath of office i think the timing was 20 minutes after the oath that the democrats started to talk about impeachment. Maxine waters on the tv all the time, impeach 45. Impeach 45. What were they going to impeach him on . If any other person is in that office, how could they perform like donald trump has . Looking over his shoulder, i cant imagine the pressure and the stress that hes under and he still keeps fighting. I think the democrats could take a lesson from donald trump and try to be a person that has dignity and is honest. The reason he did not give the aid to ukraine, they wanted to find out about the corruption and that was our tax money up. Our money hed be going to be giving to ukraine. Thats what he did. He did no wrong. But they cant impeach him because they cant. But my point is this. The American People better take a look and see whats happening. Why are they doing things behind closed doors . This is america. And theyre supposed to be transparent but hide behind the closed doors thats wrong and the democrats need to shape up. I appreciate it from las vegas. If youre wondering where the rest of the country is. The website fivethirtyeight, do americans support impeaching President Trump and a look there currently, fairly evenly divide. 48. 5 supporting it, 43. 5 do not. Lawmakers say they havent brought up the articles of impeachment yet. Do not know if that will happen in the house. But of course these hearings moving in that direction. And hearing behind closed doors nancy pelosi asking her caucus if they were ready and the resounding yes coming from democrats. Once things happen in the house including the articles of impeachment being drafted things move on to the senate for the actual trial. If it does come to that, well of course bring you everything here on cspan. Watching on cspan 3 live. If youre away from your Television Join us at cspan. Org as the votes wrap up on the house floor. Well stay here in the room. This is the Judiciary Committee meeting in the Oversight Committee room. Recognize gentleman let me repeat. The committee will come to order. When we broke for recess, we were under the five minute rule and i recognize mr. Sensenbrenner for five minutes. Thank you very much, mr. Chairman. Im a veteran of impeachments. I have been named by the house as an impeachment manager in four impeachments. Clinton and

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