will use a skull and cross bones. >> all right. let me get to sharon. do you feel like your survival and the survival of sites like yours is at stake if you have the payroll, you are paying these reporters and in your view this stuff is being -- >> we have a much larger payroll, actually. >> i don't think so. your ceo what you have 15 people, newser is a small site. it's not just about -- michael, if you would like to respond for me, that's okay, too. >> sharon, you have the floor. >> thank you. as a matter matter this is a relatively small issue, but as a principle of how we gather and consume news on the internet today, it is vastly important. that's why we wanted to bring this issue out into the fore. there are proper ways to aggregate and other ways to