after declaring victory in afghanistan that it won't slide back into becoming a haven for terrorists? >> well, i don't have a crystal ball. i think that right now the debate surrounding afghanistan is presented as either we get up and leave immediately because there's no chance at a positive outcome, or we stay basically indefinitely and do "whatever it takes" for as long it takes. and what i said last year, i will repeat. which is we have a vital national interest in making sure that afghanistan is not used as a base to launch terrorist