be a member of the school district of the member of the cbc. and they cannot be a relative of anyone affiliated with the congressional black caucus. the kids all signed it, promising they weren't related to anyone with the congressional black caucus. the congresswoman violated the rule of awarding her own relatives but according to "the dallas morning news," none of these kids went to schools in her district. keeping them honest, we wanted to know how someone, anyone, could be unaware of or confused by clear-cut rules or basic ethics. i spoke to representative johnson. >> thanks for joining us. you said you didn't know the rules for this scholarship and didn't know that you couldn't give the money to your grandson and other relatives of yours and a member of your staff. how is that possible, that you didn't know that not only was this against the rules of the scholarship, but simply unethical? >> well, let me just say this. i was not aware of the rules. the rules have been very