>> reporter: campbell was sent to prison, but he was still a priest. that's why bishop ryan had come to visit him, to try to convince him to voluntarily leave the priesthood. campbell refused. so ryan turned to rome for help. he sent copies of campbell's indictments, spelling out in graphic detail what campbell had done to his victims and asked joseph ratzinger to defrock him. ratzinger's answer, no. the petition in question cannot be admitted inasmuch as it lacks the request of father campbell itself which is called for by the current norms. incredibly, what cardinal ratzinger was saying was he could not agree to defrock a priest, even a convicted child molester, without that priest's permission. monsignor charles chacuna, the vatican prosecutor worked for years. when he sat with me at the